Forgotten C10 Gets a NEW ENGINE

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JD JoyrideTV

JD JoyrideTV

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@scottpetersen8386
@scottpetersen8386 5 жыл бұрын
I like the little guy working with his dad,great memories made
@mikemullay5622
@mikemullay5622 5 жыл бұрын
Don't spend the money on the bling until you have the engine and transmission in the truck. Save the budget for the unexpected issues that inevitably arise. When everything is installed and up and running then you can spend money on the upgrades. This engine for your needs is far superior to the LS. It's all cast iron, with 4 bolt mains, it is carbureted which means no computers or engine management systems to deal with. Keep this project simple and keep it inexpensive.
@Averagegunenthusiast
@Averagegunenthusiast 5 жыл бұрын
Good comment, I went LS swap because I blew up a 383 that was a 500hp engine. The LS swap cost me 5K not including transmission, about 1K of that was misc things like bolts and other unexpected things. It cost me as much as it would have to build another 383 and I made the 700r4 work for a while. I don't regret my swap and in my application I couldn't use any stock small block chevy parts, I needed a rotating assembly that would stand up to abuse, roller cam swap ect so the cost was a wash with the LS being a lot more driveable at that power level. With that being said anything over 300hp in these old trucks is a lot, you need better brakes, suspension and tires just to make 500hp safe in a 60s truck.
@rickydrone9274
@rickydrone9274 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent reply !!!!! K.I.S.S.(keep it simple stupid) is the saying.....lol! Keep that baby retro!!! As far as I would go with that as modern is fuel injection and probably headers as you mentioned. Put all of your money into tearing that motor down and replacing all of the parts and gaskets that could fail in the future. Would be a great learning experience for you. The other thing I would do is suspension upgrades. The best of luck and you will have a great dependable truck.
@greenshovel
@greenshovel 5 жыл бұрын
This guy knows what he's talking about! Keep that motor!!!
@chasingthatdreamcar2505
@chasingthatdreamcar2505 5 жыл бұрын
Your kiddos are on point. That older one will be building motors in a couple of years.
@DavidJones-hl5om
@DavidJones-hl5om 5 жыл бұрын
You might want to keep those exhaust manifolds they are very rare Rams Head exhaust manifolds they are high performance remember 4 bolt main 300 hp way more power than that truck needs.
@shawnmcgrane991
@shawnmcgrane991 5 жыл бұрын
Love the videoes. I did this same exact swap 35 years ago to a 1966 c10. Jus clean up motor, new gaskets, double roller chain. I put in a 350hp 327 camshaft. Paint the engine up and you be good to go, AND it will still have stock look. Good luck, looking forward to the progress.
@brucehunter8203
@brucehunter8203 5 жыл бұрын
Had that Engine in my 73 Camaro, which I transplanted from a 69, and nobody could beat me at all, and now, you can have fuel injection, and all the other things you are adding, you will love it, without dropping another dime into it, You Have a Treasure Engine there!!!!
@bmob4661
@bmob4661 5 жыл бұрын
use to watch your channel back in the day but the old school brought me back. much better than constant mustang videos , gen 1 or nothing , long live Elanor .
@bradleydickey9217
@bradleydickey9217 5 жыл бұрын
Brother I have so much respect for you for doing stuff with ur kids and raising them right.
@vulcan-900bobber7
@vulcan-900bobber7 5 жыл бұрын
Be thankful for the engine you got I mean it's a 4bolt etc.a bloody good engine and nothing wrong with the ram horns cause they work and will save you money It will push that truck along nicely for few years yet.
@TheMick26
@TheMick26 5 жыл бұрын
Hey JD. First off, 14:49 - That is the best... when Laura smiles, 100,000+ smile with her.👍😄 You two have some great chemistry. Glad you went back and got that engine and transmission. I believe that was a good deal for that setup. Chad sounds like a really knowledgeable guy and a good one to have on your side. I'm looking forward to this swap, man. Obviously, you're motivated to get it done, so I'm sure you'll be fine. Logan already has experience, so he can walk you through the process if you get into a jam.😉 Great video as always, JD. I didn't want you to wrap this one up. Y'all have a great night.✌
@JD_JoyrideTV
@JD_JoyrideTV 5 жыл бұрын
TheMick26 I’m counting on little man to help me. I don’t think I can do it without him.
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 5 жыл бұрын
@@JD_JoyrideTV Hey JD I am now in the Terminator family. I just bought a 04 torch red cobra.With only 2900.Yes 29hundred original miles.I am taking delivery I about a week. I have been looking for a while. I really wanted comp orange but the Torch red matches my 07 427 super snake and my 08 gt500.Iam so excited.
@anthonylaudano9751
@anthonylaudano9751 5 жыл бұрын
@@JD_JoyrideTV Also the car only has different mufflers the rest completely stock.I am only lowering it and taking off the cats.The car is staying stock.I really wonder how many are left in this condition. I am sure not many.
@richardspringfield28
@richardspringfield28 5 жыл бұрын
Even though it only has 81k miles I would do a timing chain set and a oil pump since you are putting it on a stand that way better safe than sorry and go ahead and do the rear main seal and front crankshaft seal when you do the timing chain it comes in the timing cover gasket kit anyways. and I would wait till after you clean the upper side off with kerosene that way all .the sludge does not stay in the oil pan its coming off anyways to do the oil pump clean the oil pan out then. Oh yea love the mustangs but I'm also classic Chevy fan My first ride was a1966 Chevy C-10 longbed fleetside 327 auto.p/s p/drum brake,my second vehicle was my1977 Mustangll 302 auto.
@rebel6251
@rebel6251 5 жыл бұрын
Awe
@pedroguerrero7718
@pedroguerrero7718 5 жыл бұрын
What a nice project you got,great video and the argu about engines with your wife priceless...keep it up brother.
@cbancman
@cbancman 5 жыл бұрын
glad to watch another C10 build besides mine and teach them young and that's cool you let your son help.
@derekrogers3426
@derekrogers3426 5 жыл бұрын
Make sure you get truck motor mounts, and find a 700r4 transmission, nice 4 speed. Look for a genie shifter, looks like an old school stick shifter . Just push the pin out on the 3 on the tree leave the original steering column
@jeremyschmuhl8127
@jeremyschmuhl8127 5 жыл бұрын
700r4 are junk been through way to many of them even with mods stock engines are 2 much for them
@shawncarpenter159
@shawncarpenter159 5 жыл бұрын
Hey again! Can’t wait to see the finished build, cannot wait, headers, cam,intake and let r rip✌️
@Eagle269Ubet
@Eagle269Ubet 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you spending time with your family!
@joshuap1678
@joshuap1678 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos, JD. It’s cool how you bring your family into them. You have a beautiful family. Best of luck and keep up the great work 👍
@TwoTrakMind
@TwoTrakMind 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Your engine was born on the same day I was! Can't wait to see this build come together!
@JD_JoyrideTV
@JD_JoyrideTV 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Burgess that’s pretty cool. Is it’s the same year also?
@stephan4490
@stephan4490 5 жыл бұрын
We got to teach them early! Great video brother.
@stevetaylor6141
@stevetaylor6141 5 жыл бұрын
That truck reminds me of my 1960 chevy short box step side I have cant wait to get the 350 running I put in it
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 5 жыл бұрын
Are you keeping it old school? If so, use a "3/4 Race cam," aluminum Torker intake, fender well headers, wide steel wheels on the back, narrow steel wheels on the front, use GM center caps on wheels, use either side pipes or 3" or 4" stacks out of the front of the bed with rain caps on them (those rain caps will play a tune with the 3/4 Race Cam in the engine), fuzzy dice hung off the rearview mirror, and more I cannot remember right now.
@joeolimpio156
@joeolimpio156 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats brother!!!! 359 4 bolt main cant go wrong with that . You will be fine hooking that up
@MclovingTurtlebeaches
@MclovingTurtlebeaches 5 жыл бұрын
Polish and ported heads , a cam some long tube headers but shorty work to a little maintace and paint the block 🤗
@hellraiserx9490
@hellraiserx9490 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck getting that engine in..... Your going to need it !
@wayneh3021
@wayneh3021 5 жыл бұрын
Your a lucky Father an Husband, good to see you keep your family involved 👍 congrats on the v8 👍
@suewatson1912
@suewatson1912 4 жыл бұрын
Dude show me a man that has never made a mistake and i'll show you a man that has never tried to do anything, go for it , that is how you learn. Its more fun building them than it is driving them.
@big_burly_bro
@big_burly_bro 5 жыл бұрын
I said before and I'll say it again... I love this build.
@redhackershittycoder
@redhackershittycoder 5 жыл бұрын
I'll say this again... Bookface market
@travisevans7502
@travisevans7502 5 жыл бұрын
he's smart he said bring the tire with it so it don't scratch it👍
@davidclarke2262
@davidclarke2262 5 жыл бұрын
Get her to help you every step of the way so you both learn together. It would probably be a fun experience.
@6petrolhead6
@6petrolhead6 5 жыл бұрын
You are so lucky to have such a beautiful wife and that she is on board with you and your truck build
@indianadave8881
@indianadave8881 5 жыл бұрын
He just needs to listen to her more... Everything she says she likes about the truck, he goes against her. Keep the stock engine. Don't bag it. LS swap???? No!
@6petrolhead6
@6petrolhead6 5 жыл бұрын
@@indianadave8881 your dead right listen to your wife mate dont run till you can walk !
@keithpage9138
@keithpage9138 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys.Keep the new engine and truck as simple as possible.That way it will be easy to fix if necessary.Your partner sounds like my wife.She talks sense and is intelligent.We have been happily married for 36 years and built several hot rods.My current hot rod is a '40 Ford Std coupe and her current pickup is a '57 Chevy stepside big window.Keep your partner interested.Keep your 1st engine swap simple and learn from that.I will be eagerly watching for progress.Good luck.
@chrismooney5737
@chrismooney5737 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely made the right decision can’t wait till we all see it in that truck and I would keep it in there
@mattsez2879
@mattsez2879 5 жыл бұрын
HEI Dist is a 1 wire install so good choice. You can also get a 1 wire alt off a late 80's GM car or truck. Im worried 300 hp ( new ) will snap that trans and / or rear end on the first drive. On the bright side, that clutch will slip A LOT so that will help? You were worried about using the auto trans because youll have to change everything, however, the trans will not sit in the same place with a small block, so your going to have to re do everything anyways, including the trans cross member and trans mount and drive shaft
@emilytate8831
@emilytate8831 5 жыл бұрын
You have given me so much inspiration ❤️ I drive a v6 mustang 04 but you make me wanna build it and block out what people say about it being a 6
@mikej5131
@mikej5131 5 жыл бұрын
Its a v6 dont waste your money trust me its not worth it. If anything coyote swap it.
@emilytate8831
@emilytate8831 5 жыл бұрын
MIKE J I don’t have that type of money, if I like it and want to build it then that’s all that should matter
@pines8411
@pines8411 5 жыл бұрын
Great choice..you’ll be happy with that motor nice cam long tube and flow masters. Love to see the expressions on your wife’s face. 😏
@Elypternal
@Elypternal 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man you are genuinely an awesome youtuber one day you’ll be the biggest one out there never change who you are bro!! Can’t wait to see the c10 in bags!!!
@TheMick26
@TheMick26 5 жыл бұрын
Right on... well said.👌
@chaseholmes8229
@chaseholmes8229 5 жыл бұрын
This is going to be fun to watch!
@greg83083
@greg83083 5 жыл бұрын
I like the c10 videos because there's more Laura, #TeamLaura
@ruwithlee1970
@ruwithlee1970 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that's a leaded gas engine most likely you're going to have to change the valve seats and you're also going to have to run a high zinc oil in it! You're also going to have to run unleaded additive in the gasoline if you don't rebuild the heads!
@DEMONFOX5.0
@DEMONFOX5.0 5 жыл бұрын
Good buy love the truck I remember driving 66 3 on the tree. Great idea on the budget build for this truck it can turn out great for the cheap.
@earlroy9957
@earlroy9957 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a 6.0 ls for my f100 lol if I ever can afford to do everything to truck might have to line up next to c10
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 5 жыл бұрын
Going to be great with the new engine.
@roberttaylor9029
@roberttaylor9029 5 жыл бұрын
Good choice on a 4 bolt main buy a complete engine rebuild kit from jegs crank pistons then buy a good set of aluminum heads for it and a decent cam you will love it. Build it right the first time make it a brand new engine.
@ItalianE313
@ItalianE313 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the 6.0 out and about....
@dannynewman2790
@dannynewman2790 5 жыл бұрын
Awwww Lauren kissed the whole KZbin video viewers whoooop whoooop! Lol
@PristineAutoDetailing
@PristineAutoDetailing 5 жыл бұрын
If ya need a parts washer I have one you can have if your willing to travel to lancaster pa. Pretty sure I have 10 gallons of parts washer fluid too. Thought I would use it but haven't used it since my last build 8years ago. Could drop off the mustang for a full detail and pick up the parts washer! :)
@blakemoore5132
@blakemoore5132 5 жыл бұрын
Excited to see the wooden bed! Doesn’t get better!!
@GFunkEra1992
@GFunkEra1992 5 жыл бұрын
your wife is not very happy right now with the money spend but wait until this c10 will be beastin' on the roads. That will be great memories man for you and your family.
@johnweeks538
@johnweeks538 5 жыл бұрын
I say put a different cam in and different intake and yes headers and just to play it safe change the rear seal it might not be leaking now but it's easier to change it now then later
@BigSalP
@BigSalP 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get the casting number off the side of the block for me? It's the numbers with the large letter GM right underneath them. Please let me know what they are so I can verify the block. If it's what I'm looking for I'd like to get the complete engine from you.
@KnuckleHeadGarage27
@KnuckleHeadGarage27 5 жыл бұрын
Heck yess can't wait man for more .
@suewatson1912
@suewatson1912 4 жыл бұрын
Great motor,, if you are going to put a cam in it go with the factory hydrolic L-79 327-350 Hp.
@tcdollarman2010
@tcdollarman2010 5 жыл бұрын
I do not care what anyone says that's what you call real friend that helps you work on a motor that he bought and then you pay them back that's a real friend
@JD_JoyrideTV
@JD_JoyrideTV 5 жыл бұрын
Timmy Creason yup for sure.
@tracywraley6892
@tracywraley6892 5 жыл бұрын
I would just clean the outside and get it in the truck running and driving first then put the upgrade valve covers and headers save the budget on for the necessities until you know it’s good engine for the trucks and your driving style
@leonardwalters154
@leonardwalters154 5 жыл бұрын
Lol so wifey thinks we're going to have some comical entertainment with this motor swap, I agree with the one fella , because with leaving the 3 spd in your gonna need flywheel bell housing and a good clutch, along with 350 frame mounts, just to start
@terryharrison8384
@terryharrison8384 5 жыл бұрын
For the time being you might want to keep the old stock ram horn manifolds they flow almost as good as short headers and seal a whole lot better
@Reroy55
@Reroy55 5 жыл бұрын
Do a compression test on that 350. Those exhaust manifolds are just as good as headers.
@bryantripp3129
@bryantripp3129 5 жыл бұрын
Old school mechanic I like it
@jtepps5289
@jtepps5289 5 жыл бұрын
If you dont wanna change the steering colum out to put that automatic in american shifter makes an automatic transmission floor shifter so you dont have to mess with the colum at all
@shartne
@shartne 5 жыл бұрын
Wow man 350 4 bolt main 300 hp wow that is nice. This truck is going to burn rubber for a city block.
@kevinyost5635
@kevinyost5635 5 жыл бұрын
You have to be at stop to go to first with a three on the tree shift. I have a 1975 Dodge sports men van with a three on the tree. And a 225 slant 6.
@btpearce
@btpearce 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great , That 350 should tote the mail in that C10 body.
@bigdaddytrucker8312
@bigdaddytrucker8312 5 жыл бұрын
JD was up , Nice video , Logan is a certified ASE mechanic now LOL , Can't wait untill u get the C10 done 👍
@briangoudreau5793
@briangoudreau5793 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a sweet bench he has I have a ton of plates might have to do it
@chuckhaynes6458
@chuckhaynes6458 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the correct color for a '63 V8 truck engine was gray. The first time you put your foot in it the 3 speed will become small pieces. It was designed for a 185 hp. 283 max. If you really want to break things and stay on the cheap get an L-79 cam, intake manifold and a 2818 Holly. You'll need to do a bit of homework about these 350hp. 327 mini monsters.
@driveventures7445
@driveventures7445 5 жыл бұрын
For pretty much the same cost of the shorty headers,I'd use the long tube,and 3" exhaust. That seems to be the best flow combination for the 350's to breath right* If it happens to be a lower compression setup,then 2.5" would be fine
@jeremyschmuhl8127
@jeremyschmuhl8127 5 жыл бұрын
2nd the long tubes
@broshak9384
@broshak9384 5 жыл бұрын
My god dude your a lucky man she works with you and she's gorgeous...every mans dream
@brucehunter8203
@brucehunter8203 5 жыл бұрын
Put a garage door in the back too!! You will love it
@flixy974
@flixy974 5 жыл бұрын
Instead of the ls, I would love to see some boost on that motor. That's just what I would do
@adriannurse1502
@adriannurse1502 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely needs a cam shaft, aluminum intake, Holly carb and headers.
@danielgallegos8869
@danielgallegos8869 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely team #Laura 👍
@jamesm.3848
@jamesm.3848 5 жыл бұрын
Next time you come up bring me a shirt I like mine a little big 5x!!! I was down your way today tried Splunkers it was amazing! Love your videos JD keep up the great work!
@JD_JoyrideTV
@JD_JoyrideTV 5 жыл бұрын
James M. Spelunkers is so good.
@jamesm.3848
@jamesm.3848 5 жыл бұрын
@@JD_JoyrideTV I agree that was the first time I was there but definitely will stop again when I get down to Shenandoah National Park! Chad is a good guy I've known him since we were kids, grew up in the same neighborhood!
@timlinder7894
@timlinder7894 5 жыл бұрын
It's good to see the truck coming a V8
@steveclark5016
@steveclark5016 5 жыл бұрын
You got this ,its not that complicated just nuts n bolts
@wfsredgbgfhfxhgbcfhgbdf
@wfsredgbgfhfxhgbcfhgbdf 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 1961 c10 project but I’m keeping it original couldn’t see me ever swapping for anything I’m looking for a decent priced steering column it’s a 3 speed on the column
@xxdrippyjayxx5860
@xxdrippyjayxx5860 5 жыл бұрын
Put a big cam in it
@davidnaccaratoii5370
@davidnaccaratoii5370 5 жыл бұрын
Just JOYRIDE IT LIKE U STOLE IT😎😎😎😎😎
@davidortner9587
@davidortner9587 5 жыл бұрын
hey JD a top end kit be real nice for that motor ur dropping in the c10 heads cam intake and carb they up the hp
@glennypeguero4476
@glennypeguero4476 5 жыл бұрын
Love new build
@jeremyschmuhl8127
@jeremyschmuhl8127 5 жыл бұрын
Vortex heads you won't regret, smiles per hr.!
@jeremyschmuhl8127
@jeremyschmuhl8127 5 жыл бұрын
Vortec dang Google talk
@MustangGuru
@MustangGuru 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve changed out many great $150 engines from the tree in the backyard.
@DXFXmc
@DXFXmc 5 жыл бұрын
After this build you will have the C-10 addiction!!!
@JD_JoyrideTV
@JD_JoyrideTV 5 жыл бұрын
DXFXmc already have it I feel like.
@williamdoyle5234
@williamdoyle5234 5 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on going to ocean city Maryland in may it's the 14 to the 17.
@hbk22578
@hbk22578 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I would get a fuel injection kit, they make multi-port systems and carburetor replacement throttle body systems, it would be a good idea to run new fuel lines regardless of what you choose but with an efi system you get old school looks and modern reliability and the good ones are self learning/self tuning as well.
@cool62chev
@cool62chev 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video's, such a cute family!
@raymondcoggins297
@raymondcoggins297 5 жыл бұрын
Way to go glad you got that motor
@graememorrison5456
@graememorrison5456 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video JD looking forward to the next video 🙏
@0oChugChug0o
@0oChugChug0o 5 жыл бұрын
Be impossible to forget about that GT , Love the truck too !!
@mavericknunez5962
@mavericknunez5962 5 жыл бұрын
Such a nice proyect, greetings from Panama
@kevinsukdolak5007
@kevinsukdolak5007 5 жыл бұрын
My prediction is three on the tree.... 1st only good for snow or pulling. 2 and 3 the new low and high
@CrazyWillie01
@CrazyWillie01 3 жыл бұрын
Intake for that Holley . HEI dist. , yellow Accell coil mounted to fire wall . She looks good . Change yer motor mount towers . ( 3 on the tree shifters are mostly junk at that age . You’ll be tearin. A party he Collum in not time to replace bushings . Just put a floors shifter for 3 spd manual . ( ya gotta cut a hole in the floor ) then you be golden . It’ll rip at lower speeds . But HWY shell whined out and to the floor70 mph as she’s low geared . Trans and rear end . But lay rubber for ever . Or put The Auto trans in rite off , should be a turbo 350 . Get the rite yoke (trans end ) find a drive line take to shop with total over all length and universal joints to match rear end . But a 3 spd floor shifter on the floor they dress out pretty nice . ) then think on rear end gear 456 always worked for me gives great low end and top out 140 mph. You won t go that fast but you love it . If ya stop there the cash won’t be bad ! But if ya do all yer bushings and shocks and front end rebuild . You be in it another 2,500 but still don’t know what you paid for that old Beauty. But 600 for the motor 500.00 to clean and dress and mount . ( that big Holley mite need a better fuel pump get a electric with pressure gauge) and 2,500 for headers driveline , rear end gears and bushing , shocks . 3-3,500 , plus the cost of the truck she will be an amazing truck and yer doin the bed nice . While yer under clean and paint everything gloss black keep rust down and she’ll look good . Good luck wish I was a younger man I’d find one and do the same !
@larryboydjr7461
@larryboydjr7461 5 жыл бұрын
JD Keep up the good work i love your videos
@michaelstapleton5510
@michaelstapleton5510 4 жыл бұрын
I still agree with your wife keep the 6 in the truck it be a lot easier for you
@dantheman8781
@dantheman8781 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Logan pulled his motor faster than it will take you to pull the motor out of the truck. Bex would kill you if you took that logo off the wall. JD Laura has a good point why do all that work and then do it all over again, LS swap now and be done. I wish i lived closer to you i would help you rebuild that motor. I have tore down alot 350`s and rebuilt them way back when we were racing. A parts washer would be a nice thing to get. Keep Logan involved with this he is having a blast helping. #terminatorlaura #burnoutbex
@Ellenslife851
@Ellenslife851 5 жыл бұрын
I Definitely know that feeling I love getting a new toy for my hoard The hoard is slowly growing
@julianestrada8908
@julianestrada8908 5 жыл бұрын
If you stop drinking Starbucks you'd probably have a second house, you don't need Starbucks as a sponsor you need a coffeeholic sponsor.
@rondogwil
@rondogwil 5 жыл бұрын
Make a pot of Folgers at home and add what you want to it, right? Since when did coffee become too hard to make yourself? LOL (old guy bitching here) lol
@sykwookiee
@sykwookiee 5 жыл бұрын
Why would you tell him what kind of coffee to drink? He's asking for advice on the TRUCK and you're bitchin' about coffee...having ANY sponsor would be good for him...
@kevinsukdolak5007
@kevinsukdolak5007 5 жыл бұрын
She says Christmas is coming...spend money after that lololol
@kjartanarnarson5302
@kjartanarnarson5302 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck to it's going to be fun :)
@grykjellstadli6251
@grykjellstadli6251 5 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I'm looking to be a car mechanic one day but i'm only 13
@09R1ms3
@09R1ms3 5 жыл бұрын
awesome build!
@kevinsukdolak5007
@kevinsukdolak5007 5 жыл бұрын
I put a hei on a 283....it really picked it up
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