Forgotten Nintendo DS RPGs #2

[@thatvideogamesshow]

For more DS recommendations, check out my DS playlist with every episode I’ve made on the console - tinyurl.com/NDS--videos

[@Jp_116]

0:13 - Final Fantasy: Four Heroes of Light 1:46 - Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled 3:26 - Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey 5:04 - Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood 6:50 - Infinite Space 8:32 - Children of Mana 10:13 - Knights in the Nightmare 11:53 - The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road 13:31 - Blue Dragon: Awakened Shadow 15:07 - Solathorobo: Red the Hunter

[@TonyGaleFreestyle]

Why have you stopped putting the game name in the top right? That was always such a big help if you missed the title card before each game.

[@DaddyGamerDiaries]

Absolutely agree. Need those game titles running the whole time

[@thatvideogamesshow]

I've been experiencing issues with the plugin since upgrading Final Cut Pro and it doesn't render properly. Have emailed the developers and hopefully it will be updated soon!

[@eqprog]

@@thatvideogamesshowyou could put the section markers on KZbin so they show up on the time line

[@Khunal1]

@@eqprogexactly needs this.

[@TrewDomko]

​@@thatvideogamesshowI would suggest making KZbin sections then while waiting for the fix

[@Dermetsu]

Infinite Space is a definite hidden gem.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Deserves way more attention!

[@withnoname31]

The story is really something. Some moments in the game are still haunting me to this day.

[@XannolcZ]

​@@withnoname31 lol, my personal nightmare scenario was when I relied solely on one savestate, entered a raider base and had a choice to go left or right... both options led to an instant game over becauae i hadnt spoken to a certain NPC so I had to restart the game.

[@Tremadog102]

If the game had a quest tracker so you could return to the game and still know what you''re doing it would be amazing. The story was great and I loved the ship designs. When you got into late game and you could hammer the enemy with your entire fleet it felt amazing.

[@Androsynth75]

Knights in the Knightmare is one of those rare games that even years later, you can confidently say ‘I’ve never played anything else like it’

[@sunekoo]

Can you please: 1. Put the game name back on the footage 2. Add chapters with the game name in each section

[@rpgs6218]

I looked in my playlisy and inwas like "hey i havent seen this one before" and then noticed you uploaded 2 mins ago. Keep the great work.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

More to come!

[@PikaLink91]

I love the Wizard of Oz one. It's definitely a special one.

[@jorgeblanco5444]

Agreed, it's both relaxing and challenging at times. I loved it

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Such a charming adventure!

[@ZeHamberglar]

I miss having the game name over the gameplay so I know what game I'm looking at.

[@yourneighbour3309]

Agreed

[@poelander0454]

infinite space is one of my favorite games of all time, and it is such an epic and underrated gem of a game. Great exclusive of the ds, highly recommend

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Couldn't agree more!

[@RY0SH1_THE_F00L]

Thanks for giving me the nostalgia & suggestions man❤ keep up the good work😊

[@thatvideogamesshow]

My pleasure man!

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

8:35 CH OF MANA

[@goatbone]

3:31 Shin Megami Tensei goes back to the Famicom era.

[@Opebin]

Being technical none of them were called Shin Megami Tensei til the super famicom but yeah megaten 1 and 2 were on there

[@goatbone]

​@@Opebin My timestamp was a bit late. They said the 'roots' of the franchise.

[@Unquestionable]

Was looking forward to this video and gotta say you nailed it, got pretty much all the heavy hitters that somehow flew under the radar. I'm extremely happy that I've managed to already know and have owned the majority of these games when they were new. A major exception for awhile was Solatarobo, which I my incredible girlfriend got for me this later birthday knowing it was a title I really wanted for my collection (and to play of course!).

[@LatinaCategory]

These are becoming some of my favorite vids. Thank you for dropping so many 🙏

[@thatvideogamesshow]

More on the way =)

[@joenuck89]

Love your videos, man. Helps to discover games that were overlooked and done so in the way you do it.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Glad you like them!

[@leviskata]

i love these videos sm please never stop doing them!!!

[@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988]

Knightmare is so good. Looks like there are way to many moving pieces but the gameplay is really good.

[@shadowedge1]

4 heros of light, children of mana, spent many a summer afternoon playing them along with 7th dragon, golden sun dark dawn and the re release of dragon quest 4,5, and 6

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Solid games!

[@evilblader7]

So many rpg but infinite space 6:53 looks so interesting, there is no many rpg based on space 🤔🤔🤔 I'll check it out

[@thatvideogamesshow]

It’s well worth it. I hope you enjoy it!

[@withnoname31]

Highly recommend, maybe check out the reviews first.

[@bianodias2000]

Knights in the Nightmare looks great. I must say I tried it though and could not understand much of it. Someday I’ll give it a second chance.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

It's for sure quite a lot to get your head around, but when you do it's a really good game. I had trouble myself for a while haha

[@kevinchester0533]

I've tried it on DS, then tried it much later on PSP. Think I'm going to give it another go as it seems like something I should love.

[@MysticMountainNebula]

Same here. I went back and am currently playing through Riviera The Promised Land, then I’ll check out Yggdra Union before diving back into KitN (meow).

[@CB-L]

No joke it takes 2 hours to comprehend through Tutorial. Even that was not enough and I got the hang of it around 3rd loop on Nightmare difficulty.

[@MysticMountainNebula]

@@CB-L Is the game worth investing the time to learn?

[@KesSharann]

Heck yeah, Solatorobo.

[@AllanBitzero]

I can still remember the ending of Infinite Space. Definitely an underrated gem

[@thatvideogamesshow]

One of the greats!

[@GoshSoExcited]

Casually watching this while playing Pokemon Conquest (totally underrated game btw). Nice video!

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Love me some Pokemon Conquest. Hope you're having fun!

[@devin8367]

Pokemon conquest is incredible

[@sinorcharlie]

These videos keep feeding my backlog.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

More to come! 😅

[@sinorcharlie]

@@thatvideogamesshow Jesus

[@BYERE]

Oh hey! Those pig monsters at 1:15 become Truff in Bravely Default 2

[@byssmal]

I love the simplicity of FF 4 heroes of light. Square enix made the successor Bravely Default but it just feels different.

[@jedewitz]

+1 for Infinite Space. The story is kinda meh, but the game itself was so much fun. Ambitious is an understatement!

[@bmattwright1]

Knights in the Nightmare is the craziest game I have ever played and I have never played anything like it ever again. So good.

[@maceng01]

Great list! I'm a DS rpg collector and have many of these titles. Missing Solatorobo, Black Sigil (which many reviewers diss it), Blue Dragon and Infinite Space.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Hope you find them for a good price!

[@maceng01]

@@thatvideogamesshow Losing hope. Had Solatorobo twice and sold them (like 12 years ago). I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy Infinite Space without a case and manual....

[@ninetozero920]

I remember seeing Blue Dragon for sale at Walmart back when it was released, and the only reason I didn't buy it (as a massive Dragon Quest and RPG fan) was because they were selling it for $90! I still don't know why, because it had only released the year before. I price checked it with the lady working there as well, and ended up using my allowance for Dragon Quest IX instead, which was a good choice imo

[@thatvideogamesshow]

I'd choose DQ IX over it any day. You made the right choice for sure!

[@mjdf122]

Forgotten DS RPG time with TVGS another amazing video

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Thanks mate!

[@C4rnif3X]

I got a decent bit into black sigil, really decent game - but the amount of broken features held the game back for me iirc.

[@luisitoviii1090]

Black sigil and nostalgia, man, that was a great time

[@ahmedfalahy9337]

Some forgotten DS RPGS worth looking into *The Dark Spire* *Glory of Heracles* *Nostalgia* *7th Dragon*

[@kclink1579]

6:50 Was thinking this won't be on here. I love Infinite Space.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Such a great RPG!

[@vitorneres_7]

I loved the second recommendation, it reminded me of Chrono Trigger; very good video, man, thank you.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Glad to hear!

[@jettythesunfish]

Yes! Someone talks about Knights in the Nightmare! I loved that game! And I STILL have the DS card for it! I swear, Sting are underrated developers...

[@markhovscrch4050]

Strange Journey was Super Brutal Difficulty if you are not prepared plus CO-OP attacks are useful.

[@CB-L]

*Knights in the Nightmare.* Pretty sure that was the game I spent most hours in my life. Took around 2 hours to go through tutorial, still took more than 2 loops(both campaigns) to finally understand how the game works. 3rd, 4th loop on Nightmare difficulty was definitely a tough journey but was fun. Even tried weird stuff like raising L.I/C.Is of characters I loved and used most - with mediocre stats - up to around 80~90s. Furthermore edited a LOT of Pause Talk database in Japanese Wiki.(DHE world guidance book did NOT have non-Knight Pause talk data) I know it was ported to PSP and eventually remastered in modern systems, though I still prefer playing through DS Touch Screen. Thank god modern ports do not have that much of extra contents.

[@Jamesssssssssssssss]

The 60 fps effects are so nice.

[@Do_you_have_coffee]

I need some MASSIVE help here So, when I was a kid my dad bought me a 3ds, at some point we got an r4 that had a bunch of games (even in Chinese), one of those was an rpg in which you could customize your character and it was based on sprites. The logo that you could see in the r4 menu was some sort of purple eye

[@rumotu]

Alex on thumbnail is from strange journey redux on 3ds. Strange journey from DS does not have her.

[@benjiiiiiiiii]

That's definitely not Alex in the thumbnail

[@safebox36]

Infinite Space was so so good. I wish it got a sequel or at least a Switch remaster.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Would love to see that happen!

[@TheRoninteam]

Amazing topic, I did not knew most of these games!

[@jakehughes5155]

DSi XL has changed my rpg life lol

[@slowbro1337]

Infinite space is a solid game but it honestly was rather short.

[@segafreak2000]

I hope that's sarcasm, because that game is many things, but definitely not short.

[@slowbro1337]

@@segafreak2000 40-ish hours to beat and 50-ish hours to 100% was pretty short for me. Guess I was a different kind of captain.

[@NueThunderKing]

@@slowbro1337you definitely have way more free time than any average working adult have.

[@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499]

There's a couple in here I've never heard of that I'm going to have to check out now. Infinite Space is siiiiiick.

[@yourneighbour3309]

Great video! Thank you!

[@thatvideogamesshow]

You're welcome!

[@UltimateDragonX9999]

i have high hopes that the sonic team finally make a new sonic rpg game for modern home consoles as it has so much so potential and plus the sonic team are very interested in making a sonic rpg for home consoles.

[@donniemilby5848]

Keep up the fantastic work brother thumbs up

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Much appreciated!

[@raptorskilltor4554]

Funfact: final fantasy 4 heroes of light is the predecessor of bravely default

[@kevinchester0533]

You can tell as well from the art style

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Never knew this! Thanks for the tip!

[@WhatAboutZoidberg]

Black Sigil has an infamous flaw in its encounter rate. Do yourself a favor and grab the Reasonable Encounter Rate hack. Reduces encounter rate and increases xp to offset the difference. Man, Sting had a trilogy of the most ambitious games I've ever seen. Def need to check out Dark Brotherhood sometime, the timed combat looks like fun.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

I've heard about this from a previous comment, will check the hack out for sure!

[@segafreak2000]

Probably the biggest omission by this point is Nostalgia - that definitely was a fun RPG on the DS that keeps getting forgotten. Infinite Space on this list is probably the one I had the best time with, still in my alltime top 10 - Strange Journey is great, but with it getting a 3DS port, I wouldn't exactly call it forgotten (Sonic Chronicles was deservedly forgotten though - man, what a bad game that was). Beyond that, nice to see Black Sigil getting a mention, overall a nice time, even if the encounter rate in that one was absolutely atrocious.

[@silasrogan241]

I have a 2DS XL I rarely ever played with 3 DS games in the closet I didn’t pay mind to from a yard sale (cause why would I want to play older games, I thought). I’m watching this and one name sounds familiar. The games are Bakugan, Ben 10 Vigilax, and Solotorobo.

[@SpikerDragon95]

Solatorobo hold soo many memories for me

[@Bortniky]

How have I never heard of some of these? Awesome

[@thatvideogamesshow]

I’m glad you found some new games!

[@OwensSkateLife]

How long until an ai does all of this? Keep it up guy i love these videos

[@johnmartinez-valentin5427]

Im so glad for backwards compatibility

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Love me some backwards compatibility!

[@Alexandre-rt7xk]

Strange Journey is an outstanding dungeon crawler. Incredible atmosphere, original setting, very fun mechanics. The Mana game and Black Sigil were disappointing however.

[@mitchellgehman4605]

Dude, gotta have Fossil Fighters

[@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988]

Damn ff 4 lights was such wasted potential. The game looks incredible, set pieces were phenomenal, the battle system was it greatest peak and fail because they went for quabtity over quality and then the whole class system gets boring fast when applied to combat... Still good tho

[@Chelaxim]

I wouldn't say Its ways that potential because it led directly into Bravely Default.

[@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988]

@@Chelaxim BD is pretty good, yes. But for the title on DS, my money was all on FF when I got that game, when playing and exploring... Then the grind came

[@Moonlight7starz]

cool vidéo but... Why game titles do not remain while streaming gameplay footage?

[@spicyananaspizza]

Tao's Adventure: Curse of the Demon Seal is also a good one T.T

[@PikaLink91]

I believe he mentions that game in his previous video.

[@spicyananaspizza]

@@PikaLink91 No, he still hasn't yet. I'm starting to believe he doesn't like the game..

[@doafan455]

Do we have a Children of Mana on the DS ? With a hacked DSi I seriously need to fix that issue as soon as I arrive home from the damn office 😅

[@PikaLink91]

No shoutouts today? I guess he was in a hurry. Good video as always. Lots of - as the title suggests - hidden and forgotten stuff. The DS had an amazing library.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Apologies! Completely slipt my mind!

[@bloodykenshiro8218]

A mostly accurate list, but I disagree with 4HoL and SMT Strange Journey being on the list, personally. The former being the progenitor of Bravely Default and the latter being one of the best Megaten games, despite being largely replaced by its 3DS enhanced port, hardly constitute a forgotten RPG. That said, it's true both Black Sigil and Infinite Space are both brilliant but flawed, and deserve remakes.

[@ChiongZ]

Glad I own all the games in physical before the price sky rockets 🚀

[@bustergundo516]

Nice

[@Morgil27]

On behalf of all Sonic fans: we don't talk about Sonic Chronicals.

[@wirlogx]

The wizard of oz game had the unfortunate of having the controls attached to one of the worst ideas the touch screen had. Sorry but the game is amazing but I rather have a mod that makes the touch scroll ball optional

[@troyg7212]

Contact for DS Man... that game gets no love

[@samuelmelendez7566]

Nintendo and RPGs go hand in hand same with PlayStation

[@giorgioscalici468]

I really wanted to finish Black Sigil but It Is super slow. I saw a hacked version that should improve the experience.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Where could I check out the hacked version?

[@aaawwawa9819]

​@@thatvideogamesshow (compact disk)romance has custom patched versions of the games and for black sigil it has 2x exp rates I believe

[@giorgioscalici468]

@@thatvideogamesshow Reasonable Encounter Rate + 2x EXP - cdromance or romhacking

[@RevrenD23]

The Sonic game had a lot of potential and can be fun for sure.. However, I'd never play it seriously based solely on the fact that it was intended to have multiple sequels and thus, the story is never completed.. Can't justify time spent on something that can't end..

[@dannyd4339]

"Forgotten ds rpgs" then shows a 3ds rpg on the thumbnail 💀

[@theneedforspeeder9575]

I don’t understand why you removed the game titles. They were the best thing out of these videos

[@thatvideogamesshow]

I've been experiencing issues with the plugin since upgrading Final Cut Pro unfortunately and it doesn't render properly. Have emailed the developers and hopefully it will be updated soon!

[@CiscoRo]

FF four heroes of light is a bad game, I like the crown system is ok and the graphics are great for a rpg but the combat is simply bad, mobs are easy or broken, they can just KO all of the heroes in the first turn if you're not over lvl and lost hours if you forget to save every time you can. Black Sigil have a good story but the random encounters are the problem here, in some maps you can't move two pixels in a row because a random battle.

[@Jack-nj9pi]

Four heroes is much better than black sigil that game is barely playable and i commend the folks that treked through that dumpster fire to beat it

[@ministerofjoy]

Fantastic discoveries 🌈👁️🙌✨👏🏼👏🏽

[@templarkid.]

LOL I was watching the first video right now.

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Good timing!

[@mohmuh2011]

Why don’t you put timestamps or put the names in the corner anymore?

[@ChazDragoon]

Strange Journey is overlooked? *looks at the fact they did a remake with extra content while certain other games Atlus did, dont.* i...dont agr-- [video goes to next game] Ok, Sonic Dark Brotherhood is forgotten for VERY good reason. The battle system is its only highlight..the story had potential, but fell flat. ...i need to play Infinite Space again..

[@marcoprocida1244]

the previuous intro music was better. Where it was from?

[@Jack-nj9pi]

He changes then for each video the best one is from tekken forgot the name

[@marcoprocida1244]

@@Jack-nj9pi you remember which tekken?

[@Jack-nj9pi]

How do say blue dragon is a copy of ffcc but not the abomination that is black sigil lol. Theres a reason why it was forgotten that game has way to many flaws that its wild they released it in its state along with being a clear heavy rip off of chrono trigger But sonic brotherhood is a game thay doesnt get enough love and currently playing solatorobo as that game is a prime example of a gem

[@ScheferLucas]

se você ver isso, ainda te amo

[@AlteredCarbons]

*vibrates* whats, whats that steam deck... you want to add them to the list of yarg... 🏴‍☠ YARG IT IS MATTY ! DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE!

[@UTube2K6]

no sections, no game title overlay make your video a pain to watch

[@postumus77]

dude, go back to the old intro music

[@alonevermore]

cross treasures it's another good rpg, but japan exclusive

[@thatvideogamesshow]

Thanks for the tip, I’ll check it out!

[@koopakape]

solatoroboooooo

[@strangeaeons3527]

Can't say I'm a fan of Children of Mana. It looks great and the combat is fine but it's so grindy and repetitive.

[@Jack-nj9pi]

Its a good time waster when played in short bursts

[@LazoRita92]

ESCRIBE LOS NOMBRES EN LA DESCRIPCION O EN LOS COMENTARIOS!!! 😡😡😡😡😡 Writen the names games in comentario!! HURRY UP

[@nakajimashizuo2920]

Who's the girl in the thumbnail?

[@Tremadog102]

I think she was one of the main characters in Infinite Space but I don't remember her name sadly.

[@khfreak5531]

Glory of Heracles? Sands of Destruction? Phantasy Star 0?

[@BobRod-mi8rq]

😯😯😊😊😊

[@theosr93]

Ch of mana is way way too easy. The bosses are pathetic. Basically most mana games after Trials SNES version are like that. Even Trials remake is nerfed a lot.

[@tobiastobitobman886]

no timestamps? why so lazy?