Forgotten Waters | Review | With Mike

[@Teremei]

I actually wish more games like this. I can totally play games like Too Many Bones and Atlantis Rising that have no connection to apps or contextual music or sound effects. But I REALLY love games like this that music and narration happens as you are playing the game. This game and games like Mansions of Madness.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Totally agree with you! I also like the trend toward Forteller and other apps that let you play narration and music during gameplay, for a bunch of games.

[@Teremei]

@@OneStopCoopShop I think you and I discussed this before (or someone else from the channel?) But I complimented your sound effects in your Robinson Crusoe playthrough wishing it was really in the game. Buying Forteller naration was the first thing I did after I bought jaws of the lion.

[@Tombonzo]

Thanks Mike. Great review.

[@AvisKarlux]

What's your feeling on emergent storytelling from actions that happen in the game?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I think the possibility is KIND OF there, but since they have narration/written story for almost every action you can do (besides generic ones like firing a cannon), for us that actually went against emergent narrative, because the game was already providing so much specific story.

[@PeterEsquire]

Having played several games, it's mostly set story but there are some great emergent stories that come up, like you'd expect from the RPG elements. There have always been a few really memorable moments from roleplaying or a critical dice roll. We had a game where a character was really proficient at a skill and did this huge feat several times in a row by crushing a few rolls, it gave him in game infamy but also we got hyped from him as players, chanting his name.

[@ADungeonDelve]

Just my opinion, but since there is a halfway point save in the middle (a scenario is about 4 hours), I would say this has more like 10 plays instead of 5.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I think that’s a great point! None of our games took that long, but with 4+ players they were 3 hours for sure.

[@AvisKarlux]

Did you roleplay as your pirate? (Giving them a "voice" different from your own)

[@OneStopCoopShop]

We did that a bit, but for some reason my groups tend to save that for our actual RPG sessions, and we shut it off for board games, even those with RPG elements.

[@HungryGamerReviews]

Very disappointed that you had no ship puns at the beginning, and went with "rise about the rest"

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I almost did think one up, but it was late :)

[@AvisKarlux]

@@OneStopCoopShop that you'd have to be humorous on top of everything else you do is asking quite a bit But it is fun to pretend to be an over-the-top portrayal of a pirate

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@AvisKarlux I certainly threw in a voice with my family a few times ;)

[@lokihve6591]

How good is the game for its mechanics. So mostly talking about decision making, strategy, tactics, mechanics. Or is it more of a story thing where the story creates the experience and keeps all of it together?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Like I said in the review, the core mechanic of choosing actions and rolling dice is pretty basic, and can get repetitive. I would not call this a highly tactical or strategic game. If you don't think your group will get into the story, it's probably not worth your money.

[@lokihve6591]

@@OneStopCoopShop They would, but it is a matter of picking between hundreds of games and having hundreds of games. So the only reason this one would be there is maybe because it has a different theme. Otherwise, I feel plenty of better story games out there by the looks of it. It is simple as that.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@lokihve6591 sounds about right to me. I like this one, but it's not making my top 10 lists or anything.

[@NatanelApfel]

This game is really something special :) I love the mix of personal and group storytelling. Though it suffers at a low or high player count, I definitely would only play with 4-5 others like you mentioned! Its a light game that I wouldn't play more than once for each scenario. But overall It's been awhile since I've found a game that kind of came out of nowhere, surprised me and I enjoyed as much as this one!

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Totally agree, Natanel. If you can get a good group together, it’s a total blast.

[@PickleTheHutt]

It's obviously a minority opinion (based on forums and reviews) but my family (9 year old, me, wife) disliked it. I didn't care for the silly humor (and grew annoyed by the voice over) and really hated the constellation mechanic. I'm pretty picky about games so I wasn't too surprised that another game missed the mark for me, but my son usually likes everything and he didn't care for it either.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Sorry to hear it Kenny! With some groups we preferred to read out loud instead of using the voiceover. And I agree the constellation mechanic is a bit wonky at times. Might as well just have an XP track instead or something similar, though it wouldn't be as pretty :)