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Remington 1890: A Half-Hearted Attempt to Dethrone the Colt SAA

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@rustyshacklfort9508
@rustyshacklfort9508 2 жыл бұрын
Remington in financial trouble? Almost like things never change
@edwalmsley1401
@edwalmsley1401 2 жыл бұрын
Facing bankruptcy is Rimingtons long standing MO. Its bizarre when you think how popular Rimington rifles and shotguns have always been
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 2 жыл бұрын
It's like Colt; they've gone bankrupt and been bought out how many times now? A dozen?
@ToastyMozart
@ToastyMozart 2 жыл бұрын
Remmington's going bankrupt again - it must be a day of the week ending in -y.
@Dhips.
@Dhips. 2 жыл бұрын
nihil sub sole novum
@possumpatrol45
@possumpatrol45 2 жыл бұрын
So Remington/Winchester went to all the trouble of designing, manufacturing, and marketing this revolver just to troll Colt? Nice.
@Lurch4539
@Lurch4539 2 жыл бұрын
more like to keep their head above water as Colt was selling the absolute s*** out of their guns
@luisginja3348
@luisginja3348 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lurch4539 do
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
Never discount the effect of Ego in firearms industry.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure design and manufacture cost all that much, these were just cobbled together, and from spares no less
@loochan325
@loochan325 2 жыл бұрын
Even Colt made the 1873 revolver model in .44WCF under de name frontier 6 shooter so as to be used alongside rifles made for the same .44-40/.44WCF. Original design for .45LC amo was pretty good but was imediately downgraded to .45 S.W. level at army request. The .44-40 was full power from the start, and was not downgraded but even upgraded fast to smokeless and some variants were loaded even hoter.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 Functionally same as the Colt SAA, but slightly different in its internal arrangement, of course. Remington gets away with two screws in the frame (hammer and trigger) because in their single action guns the trigger and stop bolt are nested one atop the other and pivot in place on just the one screw. In the Colt single action guns the trigger and bolt sit side-by-side and use two different pivot points, hence they each get their own screw-- add in the hammer, and you get a total of three screws in the frame of a Colt.
@grbdevnull5611
@grbdevnull5611 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much trouble Remington has had over the years while still being respected.
@SuperEvilmonkey88
@SuperEvilmonkey88 2 жыл бұрын
Only Remington that mattered was the 870... even that went to s***. The H&R Pardner Pump 870 clone from 15 years ago wound up being good at a better price. Which is sad. Damn thing was probably made from American recycled steel.
@hyenaloaf1858
@hyenaloaf1858 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperEvilmonkey88 the model 11 and model 8 would like to talk
@harlech2
@harlech2 2 жыл бұрын
I swear, Remington has been a HUGE player in American arms, but has managed to go bankrupt several times... WTF?!
@FuzzyBrains555
@FuzzyBrains555 2 жыл бұрын
Can you name an Arms company from the 1800s that hasn't gone bankrupt that still exists today?
@Jimtheneals
@Jimtheneals 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubbafunk That is the exception rather than the rule. Almost all major manufacturers have gone into bankruptcy and reorganized across all industries.
@Aperson156
@Aperson156 2 жыл бұрын
Let me introduce you to a little company named Colt....lol
@davidyancey1176
@davidyancey1176 2 жыл бұрын
Colt
@darchensol5112
@darchensol5112 2 жыл бұрын
hell even colt's gone bankrupt what, four times? high risk industry gun smithing is.
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 2 жыл бұрын
Am watching this sipping a cold beer, on a sunny and warm day in Rome, waiting for a 108 years old gun shop to open. Life is good.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 2 жыл бұрын
What are you going to buy???
@scipio10000
@scipio10000 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefanmolnapor910 Just window shopping, it is my form of tourism. Got a new pair of ear defenders though.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 2 жыл бұрын
@@scipio10000 smart! And fun! Enjoy
@pocketsand4404
@pocketsand4404 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Herter's 357. magnum revolver which is itself a clone of the Colt SAA, made by J.P. Sauer and Sohn in 1967 from West Germany. I found this revolver at a pawn shop and every part is like a midnight black color with a deep bluing. May not be the real deal, but man she's a beauty! Shoots well and accurate too.
@PajamaPantsStudios
@PajamaPantsStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I love single action revolvers. Always have. Seeing more obscure ones crop up on the channel will always be fun to watch!
@rocksandoil2241
@rocksandoil2241 2 жыл бұрын
1858 Remington cap and ball pistols were very much liked in the CW. Locally one was found in a pasture 100+ years after the Civil War and was likely a Union pistol lost in a skirmish. (NW Arkansas)
@notgray88
@notgray88 Жыл бұрын
1858 were so good I still own and use one today 🤣 Of course, not an original, but still 95% faithful to Colts design
@davidhague7184
@davidhague7184 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a older firearm review again. The matches/ food are cool but I really enjoy seeing videos like this.
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival 2 жыл бұрын
Always a great watch to start my Monday! Have a great day everyone!
@danjohnston3422
@danjohnston3422 2 жыл бұрын
I had a pair of Uberti clones of one of these. Felt better in the hand than a SAA - bit more space between the grip and the back of the trigger guard, so a titch more "reach" for the trigger finger. Lovely things.
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 2 жыл бұрын
I can just see Winchester discussing this move with his cronies,and saying," Here's our chance to give Sam kick up his ass! Let's do it!" And the cheer going around the room.
@hugebartlett1884
@hugebartlett1884 2 жыл бұрын
@@bimmypedersen8412 Well,he most likely thought about it,anyway!
@comiketiger
@comiketiger 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I didn't realise Remington made these. I picked up some knowledge about their black powder guns but I never caught this or don't remember it. Thanks Ian. God bless all here.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the distinctive Remington features.
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349 2 жыл бұрын
thank you ian. i prefer the videos of the older guns, and i really like the stories that go with them.
@joshuaalberry5920
@joshuaalberry5920 2 жыл бұрын
In the move Open Range, Robert Duvall carried a Remington 1875 and when he was talking to Kevin Costner he mentions that he preferred a heftier handgun than Costner's Colt SAA.
@GRMGR1
@GRMGR1 2 жыл бұрын
I would have liked a closer look at how the ejector mechanism itself works and maybe the base pin retainer mechanism.
@Hawk1966
@Hawk1966 2 жыл бұрын
It's cool to see Ian making a stop at one of the auction houses again. There's always something weird and different drifting across the auction block. Hope he makes a habit of it.
@drboone357
@drboone357 2 жыл бұрын
Ian actually has that Model 1875 in his lap in every video.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing on that 'WK' scratched into the frame?? THAT intrigues me!
@Aperson156
@Aperson156 2 жыл бұрын
Walter Kwhite
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aperson156 Thanks! I was expecting Ian to mention it; however crudely done, that's part of the gun's history and provenance.
@Aperson156
@Aperson156 2 жыл бұрын
@@petesheppard1709 The genuine tone of your reply makes me think you didn't get my joke and now I feel bad. It was a Breaking Bad reference.
@MillerSean
@MillerSean 2 жыл бұрын
4:40 'WK' to the right of the caliber and a 'W' near the cylinder
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I have recently gained a liking for the Remington Model 1890 since it is that gun that "looks like a Colt 1873 but isn't" , and then you make a video about it?! Man, Gun Jesus is so cool. 😎 Thank you for talking about this gun.
@breakawaymotorsports
@breakawaymotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
I own both the Colt SAA and the Remington 1890. Similar but the Remington gets shot more often.It just fits me better. Love them both though.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised to learn that Remington has had serious money problems for a long, long time?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
Going out of Business is a milestone moment for any gun company in the US
@briansmith3011
@briansmith3011 2 жыл бұрын
5:55 A new SA revolver in the 1890s. DAs exist, auto loading pistols are being developed. Timing.
@astrotrek3534
@astrotrek3534 11 ай бұрын
Well they could try for a contract with the Russian military at least
@mannywilliams6409
@mannywilliams6409 2 жыл бұрын
The Remington 1875 felt better in my hand than the Colt 1873, but I found few who felt the same.
@ewfisher89
@ewfisher89 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmurdock4607 EXACTLY! The Colt grip just feels too cramped and uncomfortable to me.
@phildicks4721
@phildicks4721 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Frank James preferred the Remington over the Colt.
@texasson9076
@texasson9076 2 жыл бұрын
First single action I bought was the 1875
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
You've probably got big hand's like me. I like the feel of a Remington. 44 over the Colt Plow handle too.
@sffoto1969
@sffoto1969 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been toying with the idea of getting some Remingtons. Like we all need an excuse to buy more single actions!
@Momo_Kawashima
@Momo_Kawashima 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how instead of making a break action double action Colt SAA lookalike they just made a "we have a SAA at home" in a period when single action revolvers were fading away
@Momo_Kawashima
@Momo_Kawashima 2 жыл бұрын
@@justforever96 literally copy a SAA frame's general look, make it a bit beefier, slap a hinge on the front and a latch on the top (you know, like a Webley or a Schofield or any other top break action revolver. I have yet to see a top break revolver that opens like a shotgun, with a long side swinging latch), design its frame's internals to hold a double action mechanism and you got it. It's a bit of a more expensive thing to do, but you can leech off of the SAA fame and profit a lot from it, you can market it as "like a Colt SAA, but faster to fire and reload" and old Sammy can go suck a lemon cause you didn't infringe any patent, having a similar look doesn't mean there is a copyright violation, he got a copyright on the mechanism and not on the aesthetics
@hyenaloaf1858
@hyenaloaf1858 2 жыл бұрын
@@Momo_Kawashima if you want a double action 44-40 break-top, S&W already has the double action frontier. The whole point was to try and use the 1875 parts they already have and make something "new"
@brucemiller8109
@brucemiller8109 2 жыл бұрын
I might add that some of the Early Colt and Remington Double actions (1870-1900 era) broke often, the SAA was a tank and RARELY failed to fire.
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew of the Remington 1890 revolver. I knew of the 1875, from an episode of The Simpsons, but I didn't know that's what it was. Thanks, I always wondered what that angled support was, I always thought it was for the barrell, I didn't think ejection rod.
@rtyler1869
@rtyler1869 2 жыл бұрын
interesting piece. would love to see something on the Cap and Ball era Remington Pistols. They seem so superior to that of the Colt's army and navy revolvers (even though they broke the ground of the weapon)
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 Жыл бұрын
Nobody ever mentions that the grips are set back about 3/8ths to 1/2 an inch further than the Colt pistols, making them feel very different to handle. To my mind, this feels much better for those with large frame hands like mine.
@paulbervid1610
@paulbervid1610 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. 1875 looks cool and a bit unique.
@STB-jh7od
@STB-jh7od 2 жыл бұрын
I love the lines of the 1875 Remington revolvers.
@ManiacMediaDirector
@ManiacMediaDirector 2 жыл бұрын
I´d love to see you bring this to the range!
@WhatIfBrigade
@WhatIfBrigade 2 жыл бұрын
.44-40 also has the advantage of being a lever action rifle cartridge.
@alexanderhenley7307
@alexanderhenley7307 2 жыл бұрын
So is .45 LC.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderhenley7307 It is _now,_ but .45 Colt back in the old days didn't have a robust rim for the lever-action extractor to grip onto.
@alexanderhenley7307
@alexanderhenley7307 2 жыл бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear Fair enough, I hadn't thought about that.
@LAHFaust
@LAHFaust 2 жыл бұрын
To quote a great warrior-poet: When you come at the King, best not miss.
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that late 19th century American revolvers just look so good even when they’re not embellished?
@Djkold
@Djkold 2 жыл бұрын
There's just something special about those old western revolvers!
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
the late 1800s were a wild time to be in the market for firearms, you had a not zero chance of buying a 'new' gun that was made of 50 year old parts or a gun that was made before the civil war and sat in a warehouse
@patrichanson8667
@patrichanson8667 2 жыл бұрын
As Heath Ledger once said “It’s not about the money. It’s a bout sending a message.”
@txgunguy2766
@txgunguy2766 2 жыл бұрын
Colt broke that "gentleman's agreement" with the Colt-Burgess lever action rifle from 1883-1885 and exploited a loophole with the "slide-action"(pump action) Colt lightning rifle from 1884-1904. Both rifles were chambered in Winchester's 44-40 cartridge.
@bradmarthafocker4285
@bradmarthafocker4285 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative, as always.
@beerdrinker6452
@beerdrinker6452 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting and informative content. Thank you.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian . 🐺
@lewissmith8743
@lewissmith8743 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for the history of this interesting revolver. I would like to see the 1890 made again in replica form . It would add a forgotten bit of history to the replicas that are available. Thanks again.
@peterkerr4019
@peterkerr4019 2 жыл бұрын
I think that any replica would fail again, for the exact same reason the original did.Why would I buy a replica of a copy of peacemaker when I could buy a replica of a peacemaker?
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
Uberti does make a replica of the Remington Model 1890.
@peterkerr4019
@peterkerr4019 2 жыл бұрын
@@paleoph6168 thanks Paleo, I stand corrected.
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 Жыл бұрын
The 1890 was not a copy of the SAA. The SAA is a copy of the Rem, 1858, because the US demanded a top strap revolver.
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 2 жыл бұрын
The other unspoken virtue of the 1875 Remington revolver...the ability to whomp somebody over the head with impunity. Something Randolph Scott's character, in western action flicks, did with regularity. 😉
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
The Colt Walker was the OG skull crusher, It Was designed to be shot from horseback then double as a club.
@WhitzWolf92
@WhitzWolf92 2 жыл бұрын
@@akatripclaymore.9679 13 lb sounds embellished to me...cursory searches bring up 4.5 pounds for the Walker. Which is still pretty close to the M1 carbine and REALLY HEAVY for a handgun.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
@@akatripclaymore.9679 To be fair, the M1 carbine also never developed a reputation for exploding. :)
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZGryphon True...we were talking club's though.
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhitzWolf92 That is what Walker Wanted, but I've only held a Walker once. It was a 100 year anniversary model, but a real Colt nonetheless have you ever held one? I worked at a Taxidermy/ Black Powder shop in Puyallup Washington. That was the only reason I was able to see & hold a real one. Even Copies are hard to find now.
@alanvitullo
@alanvitullo 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting story. Thanks Ian. 👍
@Gordonseries385
@Gordonseries385 2 жыл бұрын
👍 Thank you for the information, Ian. Take care!
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Another bit of firearms history I was unaware of. .
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to time travel to those times and see how they made guns back then. It's hard to imagine that they could machine things without widespread electric grids, although electricity and generators did exist, whether they used them or not.
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 2 жыл бұрын
Water wheels, energizing a flywheel, with power taken on or off via a clutch and/or a differential setup.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 2 жыл бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear It's one thing to know the theory, but to see it in practice, to see how the old masters did it, that would be awesome.
@nathenstoneburgh7298
@nathenstoneburgh7298 2 жыл бұрын
Was just looking at buying a cimmeron 1890 police pistol and was delighted to see Ian.
@SamSwanner
@SamSwanner 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been a dig at Colt by Remington themselves as well since a great deal of the Colt SAA was "borrowed" from the Remington New Model Army. As memory serves, a gun smith from Remington moved over to Colt and helped develop the SAA.
@daltonbecker4494
@daltonbecker4494 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like an aggressively forgettable gun for its day.
@daltonbecker4494
@daltonbecker4494 2 жыл бұрын
@C. W. Sayre There is a car review series called Regular Car Reviews; they once did a review on the Oldsmobile Alero, a car that is also aggressively forgettable. That's all I think of when I see this gun. In a cowboy movie this is the gun that would be used by some background character.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
@@daltonbecker4494 yeah, it was used by one of Lawrence's (Clifton Collins Jr.) cousins in Westworld (2016) during a shootout with the Man in Black (Ed Harris), and by Buddy (Sid Haig) and Purvis (David Arquette) in the intro of Bone Tomahawk (2015).
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 2 жыл бұрын
Well with that rare Remington revolver out of the way, hopefully we'll see a video on that double action 1858 Remington at some point.
@michelguevara151
@michelguevara151 2 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to see a side by side with the single action army colt, do they shoot alike on the range?
@Oct14cya
@Oct14cya 2 жыл бұрын
If Smith and Wesson decided to chamber their Schofield models in .45 Colt would Colt be just a an answer to a trivia question?
@pinrouter
@pinrouter 2 жыл бұрын
Right. It had a solid one piece steel frame all the way to the tip of the grip. I’m surprised that Ian didn’t mention this.
@danielsprouls9458
@danielsprouls9458 2 жыл бұрын
This was on the leading edge of smokeless powder. The gun was pretty much outdated when the first one came off the line.
@knightofastora1324
@knightofastora1324 2 жыл бұрын
>Project ends in total commercial failure >Colt and Winchester didn't even notice >Still in crippling debt Remington: Heh heh, gottem
@lanslater
@lanslater 2 жыл бұрын
What is the problem to which BLUEING is the answer? Or what does blueing solve or improves?? mentioned circa 3:51
@jonrolfson1686
@jonrolfson1686 2 жыл бұрын
The Remington cartridge revolvers might have been expected to have had some appeal to folks who had preferred (or at least been used to) using Remington’s solid frame full size cap and ball revolvers during the unpleasantness of the 1860s. Colt had seemingly seen the light on the strength and simplicity of solid frame revolvers with integral top-straps, and responded with their 1873 offering.
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 Жыл бұрын
In other words, Colt copied the Remmies. But not because they "saw the light," but because the US Army demanded a top strap revolver.
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 7 ай бұрын
Actually, when Colt came out with a cartridge revolver, it was an open top like their Army/Navy models, and the US gov demanded a full frame, "like the Remington." So the colt is a "copy" of the Remington, not the other way around.
@jeremiahdillard9201
@jeremiahdillard9201 2 жыл бұрын
I used to have the Uberti version in .357, but man was that pistol overbuilt and heavy.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it really made for smooth shooting, though.
@jeremiahdillard9201
@jeremiahdillard9201 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirkmooneyham That it did. :D I always wondered how it's weight compared to something drilled out for 45 cal.
@RonOhio
@RonOhio 2 жыл бұрын
Sort of reminds me of the late 1960's when AMC was buying parts from the other automakers as they tried to hold on.
@99dsm1
@99dsm1 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Pa cartwright carried an 1890 in bonanza
@dragan2324
@dragan2324 2 жыл бұрын
The extra bit of metal beneath the barrel on the 90, and the sturdier looking grip frame, make the 90 a bit more handsome than the SAA in my opinion.
@jeffreydrake4876
@jeffreydrake4876 2 жыл бұрын
Heartly owned 50%-Half hearted attempt… I see what you did there😂
@phatboi9760
@phatboi9760 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful looking firearm. Thanks Ian 😊
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Ian thank you
@Ostenjager
@Ostenjager 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Remington’s grip geometry over Colt’s, and I like the balance of the 1875.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I find the looks of the 1875 as more menacing than that of the Colt, due to the fin underneath the barrel (which also makes it somewhat resemble a previous, more famous handgun by Remington, their 1858 revolver).
@jamesburk2544
@jamesburk2544 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, at least all the Remington replicas I've handled had too short a hammer and the action always felt "mushy" to me, as opposed to the Colt which had a proper hammer spur and an action as crisp as celery.
@hurricane567
@hurricane567 2 жыл бұрын
De Ridder, Louisiana was The Wild West until FDR
@Goc4ever
@Goc4ever 9 ай бұрын
I've never heard of a revolver that looks like the Colt Single Action Army that was produced just to make fun of Colt, well done Ian. Remington and Colt had this gentleman's agreement but it didn't say one party could commit patent infringment just for laughs and kicks.
@unclejohnbulleit2671
@unclejohnbulleit2671 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a comparison of the various single action cartridge revolvers up to 1900! Including of course, some range time.
@Sammyandbobsdad
@Sammyandbobsdad 2 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically, the Remington 1875 has the best lines and is the more attractive weapon.
@brianhoxworth3881
@brianhoxworth3881 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the cost difference was between the Remington to the Colt. If comparable , most would buy a Colt.
@OlMrEllis
@OlMrEllis 2 жыл бұрын
When it's 1890 and you tell your grandma you want a Colt SAA for Christmas but she doesn't know anything about guns:
@proteinasaurusrexrawrimmad6649
@proteinasaurusrexrawrimmad6649 2 жыл бұрын
Old revolver video from Ian as a treat?
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
The moment when Ian almost said "lever-action revolvers" gave me the most _glorious_ mental image.
@rdb8509
@rdb8509 2 жыл бұрын
How did the Remington price compare to the SAA? Also how did 44 WCF compare to the 45 Colt in velocity and power?
@daviddavis1322
@daviddavis1322 2 жыл бұрын
Remington and pistols, no thanks for 100 years!
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
Remington made a number of 1911 .45 auto's too, during WW1. I don't think it was a coincidence the 1875 looked alot like the 1858 they basically look the same. The largest buyer of the 1858 .44 Cap and Ball were the Confederate Army. I love that pistol ( maybe it was the top strap) which the 1851 Colt lacked. But they also fit my hand better & I believe they were a little more accurate.
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 2 жыл бұрын
They also made a lot of rifle barrels around the world, Samuel Bush was on the board, and l think the Harrimans had a large piece of Remington.
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 2 жыл бұрын
I meant Bush was on the War Commision board, they decided who got government contracts.
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeroberts7435 Harriman's... was that the guy who owned the munitions storage & made some crossover arm's in New York harbor- Then later there was an explosion? Some Dynamite that was stored turned to nitroglycerin ( or that is what is surmised)?
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 2 жыл бұрын
@@akatripclaymore.9679 Could have been, they owned Railroads, his name in Skull and Bones was "Thor". Samuel Bush ran Buckeye Steele for the Rockefellers, the 322 club owned Remington. The 870 was always my favorite shotgun for birds, so finding that out kinda sucked. It was a big stink about the Remington contracts, kinda like Cheney and Haliberton, but a fire mysteriously destroyed all the records.
@akatripclaymore.9679
@akatripclaymore.9679 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakeroberts7435 The 1100 was the best shooting shotgun I ever owned, But yeah the 870 was legendary' the 780 Woodsmaster in 30/06 was up there in my favorite rifle's category too! Yeah I lost most of my gun's in a fire too, the last few were lost in a boating accident.😮‍💨
@kafferhond435
@kafferhond435 2 жыл бұрын
God. I wish you could have been my History teacher in school... It would have been so much more interesting, and relevant, than the World History we got force-fed
@mrmicro22
@mrmicro22 2 жыл бұрын
High school teacher here. Most of the important things in life, you will learn yourself. Take advantage of school as much as you can but it is only the start.
@kafferhond435
@kafferhond435 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrmicro22 I finished school more than 3 decades ago. But still, every day, I learn😉
@Shawon65
@Shawon65 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur's 'Cattleman Revolver' 😁
@dakotahrickard
@dakotahrickard 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so here's a question: out of the two, imagining them unseparated in time and market share, which is the better revolver, by some objective measure and in your opinion as well?
@hyenaloaf1858
@hyenaloaf1858 2 жыл бұрын
It's not possible to make an objective call on that: the Remington grips feel better in larger hands while the Colt's fit better for smaller ones. The Remington is definitely more durable, with it's one-piece frame. Some like the weightier 1875 as it helps tame recoil, some prefer the lighter 1890 or SAA.
@roguephantom1417
@roguephantom1417 2 жыл бұрын
I will call this the Remington Single Action Salvation Army
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 Жыл бұрын
The 1890 was never an attempt to "dethrone" the Colt SA. It was just a model brought out to sell, and make money.
@kevinforget549
@kevinforget549 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if it was just a rebrand to clear out remaining 1875's that didn't sell.
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 7 ай бұрын
@@kevinforget549 Rem did that when they took left over 1875 parts and made the "Improved Army Pocket Model." or the model 1888 as we call it today. The 90 was an experiment to see if a SA revolve would sell in that era. It didn't.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
1890 seems like a really late time to be selling these guns
@JohnDoe-pv2iu
@JohnDoe-pv2iu 2 жыл бұрын
For all the great things Remington could build, they always were behind. It seems like someone at Remington was afraid of taking a risk and by the time they built something, it was behind the times. The Remington rolling block was a Great rifle action and should have had more market but was behind Sharp's for hunting (and had a Good military rifle by the time the other companies were marketing repeating rifles)... Ya'll Take Care and be safe, John
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 Жыл бұрын
Rem was never behind the times. Their percussion revolvers were the best made, with steel barrels and cylinders, with a top strap, and removable cylinders. Colt didn't have removable cylinders until 1896. Rem made the first DA pistols, they made the O/U derringers, they made over 1 million rolling block rifles, so how many more should they have made? The RB rifles were the most used military rifle in the world in the 1870s to 1890s. They were the preferred rifle for long range competition. They were the first with a removable box magazine rifle, They were the first to adapt the Mauser bolt action system, the 870 shotgun is the standard which all shotguns are measured, and none of this sounds like a company behind the times.
@josh5397
@josh5397 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a Remington Model of 1875 in your lap or are you just happy to see me?
@ichimonjiguy
@ichimonjiguy 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that the Colt SAA is the prettiest looking of those three.
@jensenwilliam5434
@jensenwilliam5434 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andrewgates8158
@andrewgates8158 2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly Blackhawk has more in common with the Remington than the colt
@DerrillGuilbert
@DerrillGuilbert 2 жыл бұрын
Mom, can I get a Colt SAA? We have Colt SAA at home. Colt SAA at home: Remington 1890
@dallasgrant
@dallasgrant 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea on what the chicken scratch below the calibre means, the hashtag was interesting to see too.
@paleoph6168
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
4:23 I always misread that as "Illinois" lol
@tomwilliams8675
@tomwilliams8675 2 жыл бұрын
This pistol was made just down the road from where I live. RIP Remington Arms Ilion, NY. thanks to New York's friendly gun laws.
@SWIGGITYSWAGWIGGITYWAG
@SWIGGITYSWAGWIGGITYWAG 2 жыл бұрын
New York government is just one big early life section
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 2 жыл бұрын
Could be worse? You could be in Canada.....
@Fulcrumn9
@Fulcrumn9 5 ай бұрын
​@@WALTERBROADDUSeven worse; Australia
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 5 ай бұрын
@@Fulcrumn9 folks in North Korea might disagree. But then, it doesn't pay to disagree in North Korea.😏🇰🇵
@masahige2344
@masahige2344 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious as to whether the 1896 gun is currently accounted for and if so who owns it.
@kubrick1969
@kubrick1969 2 жыл бұрын
02:58 gorgeous trio
@showtime2629
@showtime2629 2 жыл бұрын
My Uberti 1875 has a nasty habit of breaking it's ejector rod. I'm not sure if that is the the same for original guns.
@ЮрисСтрайкер
@ЮрисСтрайкер 2 жыл бұрын
Автору канала вподобайка дякую!🤩🤩🤩💯👍👍👍. Револьвер з шомпольною екстракцією це моветон уже на той час коли уже була переломна рамка, то недарма та модель була не популярною.
@senorslowpokerodriguez
@senorslowpokerodriguez 7 ай бұрын
Fell into financial trouble classic Remington story.
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