Shpagin's Simplified Subgun: The PPSh-41

[@breadman32398]

I want one just because of how crude and simple it looks. Every piece of metal has marks all over and there's about 4 moving parts to the whole thing, makes an AK look like a Swiss watch.

[@steirqwe7956]

It's most likely because this particular gun is made during the war in some kind of factory not meant to make firearms at all, maybe even partually hand made and not by proficient turner but by housewife or infant. This was a harsh time for Russia during WW2, and quality control was simple- if it shoots then it's okay for the military. Later models may be much more fancy and polished.

[@breadman32398]

Even to make a gun that shoots and functions as well as this despite the tolerances speaks volumes to the design. I doubt there's too many other firearms that could be made like this and function well, if at all.

[@711jastin]

it has like less moving parts than a liberator LMFAO

[@jozseftoth9368]

It sprays like crazy, though. Like 1300 rpm the drum magazine was installed for a reason

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

Look at his video on the Uru.

[@HaydenLau.]

In the factories where they built this gun, they test fired it by shooting out the windows... At the approaching Germans

[@kingpin76110]

Hayden Lau That is absolutely one the coolest stories I have ever heard about gun making. That’s is the definition of Boss. I’m not sure if it’s true, still a great story.

[@comradeglory4625]

I mean the tractor plant in Stalingrad did similar with the tanks. It's imaginable to happen with the gun factories too but I'd prefer to have a source before truly believing it.

[@kingpin76110]

Comrade Glory Yeah, the Russkies are pretty matter of fact about that type of thing. Didn’t have time for anything other the field expedient method. Pretty funny tho. I can just picture the last guy on the assembly line wiping some grease off racking the slide and handing it to some kid to walk over and spray the Germans hiding out across the street from the massive slab of brick that made up the manufacturing facility. Then taking the mag out matching the gun up with a fully loaded and kitted mag pouch and handing out the back door to some troops eagerly waiting for the new Papasha....

[@PyromaN93]

@@kingpin76110 also sometimes in besiged Leningrad guns produced by Kirovskiy zavod was firing from that plant, because front was in 2-3 km away.

[@bdrift107]

That's why they call me Big Papa!!

[@colinkelly5420]

Ian: '30,000 round endurance test, half semi-auto and half full auto' Me: the poor bastard(s) who had to shoot 15,000 rounds in semi auto...

[@ArtyTheta]

probably tested on dissidents

[@MikeDCWeld]

Colin Kelly I figured they just had 15,000 people fire 1 round apiece to test the semi-auto.

[@indiomoustafa2047]

One mans shitty job is another mans dream job. I would be happy to shoot one gun all day and record different observations.

[@indiomoustafa2047]

Michael Carnes True communism!

[@lukecarroll4052]

@@MikeDCWeld that would completely negate the reason for the test since its to see how it endures that many rounds

[@schokonugget9373]

'it is very easy to make something difficult, but its very difficult to make something easy' Georgi Semjonwitsch Schpagin

[@Annokh]

I think I'd rather translate this as "It's easy to make something complicated, but it's difficult to make something simple", but yeah.

[@doctor-atuti]

@Craig Koehler Huh? Annokh's one makes way more sense. A weapon can't really be "difficult", but it sure can be complicated in terms of design. The manufacturing process can be difficult. The words "difficult" and "easy" are more to do with actions, whereas "complicated" and "simple" can be either actions or objects.

[@shawnjohn5756]

@Craig Koehler that's a quote from Einstein sooooo....

[@Acetylencysteyl]

​@@Annokh the wordplay would be lost

[@londonjolly9174]

"clean it, I guess" Truely the mind of Russian infantry

[@j_gibbon]

London Jolly with vodka.

[@steirqwe7956]

Jokes aside, vodka is actually good cleaning solution. I've heard a stories about German pilots suffered from coolant and cleaning solution in their planes freeze during the winter, render planes not able to take wing and Russians just used industrial alcohol for their birds.

[@magisterrleth3129]

J Gibbon Vodka is for drinking, silly capitalist! Some spit will do, besides it teaches you to be quick and get it clean before it freezes.

[@НелиелОксингейл]

@@steirqwe7956 don't mix vodka and ethanol, while Russians can drink both, vodka still 60% water, quite a lot, don't you think? Though 95% ethanol (medical - clean, or factory - unfiltered) is incredibly good for cleaning.

[@steirqwe7956]

I personally use vodka for cleaning laser sensors and other optic devises at my workplace, clean ethanol is surprisingly hard to buy in Russia. PS vodka stays liquid at -30C, just become a bit viscous over time.

[@ethanhayward3696]

"Without the magazine, this isn't really all that useful." A good comrade is always ready to fight. Throw it at the enemies.

[@TroubleTwo]

Ethan Hayward I figure it would make a pretty effective club.

[@HaloFTW55]

No, they have things like shovels, bayonets, and combat knives for this.

[@samuelfrye7629]

"When kalash runs out of ammo can be used as club."

[@zerg9523]

TroubleTwo - Finally, a plus for heavier weapons... i’d rather get hit with an M16 than a BAR...

[@sskuk1095]

@@TroubleTwo Until you realise the German is probably wearing a helmet...

[@edm240b9]

The front sight is literally just an upside down screw... that’s a new kind of cheap

[@arclight7388]

EdM240B if it's stupid but it works..... it's not stupid

[@Sluxslol]

Simplified!

[@PMGF]

I don't think it's just a screw, it's probably threaded to make installation and zeroing the sights easier. But that's just my guess.

[@BigWheel.]

That's badass

[@MrInnerCircle]

More like: "If it´s stupid but it works, it´s still stupid. You just got away with it"

[@miko886]

Commrade how big rate of fire u want? Stalin: Yes, and make it no recoil

[@alpharius6206]

Still not enough dakka

[@karateguy247]

Comrade: how many ak you want? Putin: all of them

[@thermaticus3250]

@@karateguy247 Comrade: you want silence gun? Putin: yes, but on all the guns

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

I reflexively put on a Russian Accent reading this.

[@jefferyroy2566]

I had the pleasure of firing one of these buggers with a box mag. It had supposedly been collected by US troops from a seized weapons cache in North Korea during the war. The recoil is minimal in semi fire, but go full and it naturally starts to climb. My experience was limited to two full boxes, or 70 rounds. Being the only submachine gun I ever fired, there's nothing I can compare it to. It was solid and felt heavy in your hands. In the right hands, it could function as home defense weapon if it was just you and the intruders. Otherwise, the risk of collateral damage is a possibility unless the shooter knew what he/she was doing with it.

[@KhanGirey]

The PPSH. Heck of a shotgun

[@evanburke2766]

KhanGirey I know some firepower for a cheaply assembled smg

[@omegagarry8192]

Heck of a shotgun

[@lovecraftcat]

Only in crap fallout :^)

[@SamuraiPie8111]

i prefer two colts

[@chronicmilitarycollector9232]

hello /k/ t. /pol/

[@dimitarchanev]

It was 1977 and I was given one of those during my regular army duty. The date on it said 1942 - it had a very nice looking mahogany like stock. I was lucky to have a pouch with 3 stick mags. Drum mags were a curse, made the weapon even heavier and were known to beat You i n the kidneys when running and marching around. Shpagins had the reputaition of being very inaccurate, good enough to hit the target in front of You, as long as it is 100 yards away and as big as a mountain. All other units around had AK s - no comparisson at all. Hello from Bulgaria !

[@888nevik]

@CipiRipi00 well good luck finding yourself within that range in a modern battlefield

[@kestuita2478]

@@888nevik There's at thing called house to house fighting.

[@dekardkain5469]

@@kestuita2478 Yeah, and the Russians carrying this bad boy originally were doing a LOT of it, from Stalingrad and Leningrad, all the way to Berlin. Now that poor guy in '77? I feel for him.

[@geraldmahle9833]

@CipiRipi00 As a reference, Col. Thompson called his SMG a "trench broom". If the much more accurate Thompson deserved this label from its designer, then that tells you what the Shpagin was intended for- 50 yards or less. 200-yard sight? BWAHAHAHA.

[@geraldmahle9833]

@CipiRipi00 You're wrong again, amigo. Accuracy is ALWAYS paramount. There's a video elsewhere on U tube where a PPSh-41 is fired abt. 30 rounds at a metal target. The firer keeps all rounds in a group smaller than a basketball at about 30 yards. To me that's phenomenal accuracy for a "trench broom". Keep in mind the PPSh-41 barrel is a chrome-lined production item. Not exactly a target barrel.

[@Kowalski089]

In Soviet Russia, quality controls you.

[@panzerkampfwagenvi1252]

Joseph Boccarossa lol

[@volvo1354]

quantity has a quality all its own

[@miniyurc]

In Soviet Russia at that time was the war. Its a not USA behind the ocean.

[@COIcultist]

scott szabo. Too right. Great quote from uncle Joe,

[@volvo1354]

COIcultist i also thought that quote was made by Stalin, but surprisingly, it was actually Lenin who made that famous statement.

[@christianhamiltonskinner]

"Pull the bolt out, clean it, I guess" - so Russian. Where has this channel been my whole life?

[@adamkoch3424]

We had the Tommy Gun; and the Soviets answer? The "Commie Gun" :P

[@kurtbjorn3841]

The Thompson was a jewel of precision machining, cost a fortune to make. Think Rolex. Soviet subguns were sheet metal and tube, couple of springs. Timex. Yet, they worked, and worked well.

[@zombies4evadude24]

MP40: Jerrie Gun Type 100: Jappie Gun

[@TheBucketSkill]

@@kurtbjorn3841 Yea i'd prefer a soviet smg over the M1 Thompson. Now the 1929 or 1919 variants? those are beautiful and masterpieces compared to M1 tommy

[@TheBucketSkill]

@Onward Turtle Like i said, i love the original variants of the tommy from 1919 or 1929, but the ww2 M1 Thompson is meh to me.

[@enclave9614]

@@TheBucketSkill they are pretty but very heavy and drums magazine are unreliable

[@gary4014]

“Hey, should we make a gun that DOESNT rain hot brass on our soldiers?” “We could but this is so much cheaper!”

[@sandels5805]

It dosent i have shot it. And btw the ppsh was THE best submachine Gun.

[@sandels5805]

Do some research

[@gary4014]

@@sandels5805 see the quotes? I was quoting a video called “Zach’s gun rants compilation”

[@sandels5805]

@@gary4014 Ah ok sorry for the inconvineince.

[@sumvs5992]

Mike said shrapnel not brass

[@-----Alcatraz------]

8:46 You gota to love Soviet simplicity.

[@phamanhtai2824]

Usability Simplicity Sensitivity Reliability

[@anunc]

Also known as the U.S.S.R.

[@FayazAhmad-yl6sp]

​@@phamanhtai2824 Im a technologist i love Russian technology they make simple reliable and accurate machines. I have Chinese SKS semi automatic militarily surplus rifle which is basically designed in USSR it is accurate like laser durable reliable and beautiful. I lovr my SKS and i believe it is best semi automatic rifle ever built.

[@ajmalshah934]

In Afghanistan they referred to this sub machine gun as the, “Paar Pashah” aka dragonfly, because when you fire the gun in full auto, it sounds like the wings of a dragon fly.

[@nejinaji]

That's pretty cool

[@HO-bndk]

Russians referred to it as a "pa pa sha". Apparently a convenient play on words.

[@AeSyrNation]

It's the other way around. Russians nicknamed it Papasha, meaning "Daddy", and the afghanis most likely nicknamed it because it sounds similar. Anything else is coincidental.

[@ERRATAS0707]

Guess what the Americans refer you Aghanis to. 😂

[@FayazAhmad-yl6sp]

Yes, in 1987 my brother bought one with Drum magazine PPSh-41 made in 1944. It was time when war in Afghanistan with USSR was in final stage. The Afghan fighter ware Selling there weapons in Pakistan.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

PPsh-41, name fits the gun perfectly: PPPPHHHHHHSSSSSSHHHHH-emtpy mag.

[@javanbybee4822]

LazyLife IFreak hA

[@slendertale1186]

LazyLife IFreak this doesn’t make any sense.

[@javanbybee4822]

Slendertale wow

[@Yesanshi]

LazyLife IFreak haha I like dat

[@mister-v-3086]

a Russian would say Pe Pe Sha, as the SH sound is considered it's own, distinct, noise.

[@Rafferty1968]

I'm reminded of that scene in 'Cross Of Iron', when Steiners captured PPSh runs out of ammo, he just throws it away and picks up another one.

[@dbmail545]

The Soviets apparently thought the human assets were not hugely important. "We make gun, conscript shooters as needed"

[@darykeng]

@@dbmail545 price for nazis win would far greater, so... why holding back? Throw everything, but stop them

[@sanjuuyonsai]

Funny how I keep hearing him using the word "unorthodox" only when talking about russian guns.

[@zusty9589]

Funny how?

[@Upsetkiller456]

It's later incarnation "The Reaper" is quite effective at decimating hordes of the undead.

[@TragicTester034]

"alright one last time OORAH" - "Tank" Dempsey the slayer of meat sacks

[@ronaldraygun5089]

It’s now the “Grisly Reaper”

[@ИльяИванов-ч3п]

It is one of the symbols of the Great Patriotic War (ww2) for us. P.S. Hello from Saint-Petersburg, Russia.

[@kcchan8213]

Здраво на Сербия

[@ИльяИванов-ч3п]

Dan Tallsten You're wrong, but let's agree to differ, I don't want to argue with you. And I congratulate you on the centennial of independence of Finland, anyway.

[@GeorgeSemel]

It was a hard war, and Russia paid a horrific price.All the allies paid a price in there own way! America we fought on two fronts.Europe and the Pacific, and keep everybody afloat with lend-lease aid. As a kid I played with a lot of surplus stuff, it was all over, we even have some 3 million M-1's never issued in storage, you can even buy one from the CMP (Civil Marksmanship Program) My first centerfire rifle my dad gave me in 1963 was an 1891/30 Mosin Nagant from the Tula Arsenal 1938 was the year made. I still have it. If that rifle could talk it would be a story, of how it end up in a rack of guns at Western Auto in Colchester, Ct in 1963!!

[@fus132]

Dan Tallsten Sweden first, Finland is next.

[@MrEpic325]

Anti Russian Refuter aka 'ARR' reminder Finland lost the continuation war and the Soviets didn't press too hard in the peace deals and let Finland be independent even though they could have easily crushed the Finns especially after the war without Germany's support. Russia also attacking during a time of great political instability and an extreme lack of competent leadership, so Finland got it easier at least, but they fought hard and showed the Soviets they were to be respected, which the Soviets held to. also you sound like no Finn I know, probably some edgy American that likes to call himself Finnish

[@darrinscott6612]

This thing is like Warhammer 40,000 Ork levels of simple. You open it up expecting the internal components of a submachine gun and it's just a bolt and a spring.

[@stingingcashew2321]

It only works because the Russians BELIEVE that it'll work

[@tomaspabon2484]

Doesn't "a bolt and a spring" describe allmost all open bolt subguns?

[@jotarokujo4787]

@@tomaspabon2484 yes

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

The Laz Gun is basically a 40K version of an AK so eh not really unique to the setting.

[@Weaponsandstuff93]

The info on the mags makes a lot of sense, I have a deactivated PPSh-41 (Because UK) and it's almost impossible to actually pull the drum mag out and shove it back in, you almost need lube for the thing to fit. So the mag wells being a bit shoddy would make a lot of sense. Thanks as always for the informative video.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

Drum mags are a liability anyway, 35 rounds is more than enough, especially with how hard 7.62x25mm hits even though it's a pistol round.

[@JerresYouTubular]

In Soviet Russia 'Deactivation' only happens to Political Activists who oppose the current government.

[@Heksu99]

The rate of fire is so fast that you need big magazine so in trenches you don't need to worry about running out of ammo in the magazine during the firefight all the time

[@luciferomega605]

7.65 tokarev ? or 7.63x29? or 6.35x28?

[@Russkiman96]

not when your fire rate is more than a 1000 rpm thats why ppsh was not a great weapon in the hands of people who had bad trigger control and that is also why it had a semi auto fire mode

[@robertwilkinson8421]

The Simplicity in design is Brilliant. In as rough as the finished product is, it is a nice looking Weapon and easy to maintain.

[@DeepOneBill]

>Calling cosmoline nasty. Steel yourselves, the mosin fans are coming.

[@xmm-cf5eg]

CONSCRIPT REPORTING *_REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE._*

[@HaloFTW55]

What?! No! You must embrace the cosmoline!!

[@thedoctorwillseeunow2233]

Bluehawk2008 nyet, tovarisch, Mosin use delicious grease, not filthy, American “Cosmoline”.

[@ethanblevins1116]

M O S I N N A G A N T

[@ashj8186]

URAAAAAAAAAAA

[@konyina]

*Germans and Russians during WW2* A: Yeah, the PPD 40 (Mg34) is a great weapon. Too expensive tho, let's make it worse but cheaper. B: Sir, I am sorry, but i think we unintentionally made them cheaper and better.. A: *NNNNYYYYEEAAAAAAANNNYH*

[@AndrewVasirov]

A was a Japanese spy xD

[@kingofhogwarts9499]

Mg42 is not realy better than 34 though. I mean you can realy call it bad, but there is nothing that makes it better than the mg34

[@colin.k6263]

@@kingofhogwarts9499 but it maintains the same story of the PPSH and it is arguably better, higher fire rate, easier and faster production, more efficient in mud and snow compared to MG34, etc, all up to debate at the end

[@PieAndChips]

MG-34 suffered from reliability problems, hence the development and adoption of the MG-42

[@allenrosales9738]

king ofhogwarts the MG42 has a higher fire rate than the MG34. The MG34 has a fire rate of 900 rounds per minute, while the MG42 has a fire rate of 1200-1500 rounds per minute, depending on the sources, but it’s still a stupidly high number. Also the MG42 was cheaper. The Germans used both weapons up until the end of the war because when the MG42’s barrel over heats, taking out the barrel to replace it is a pain inside a tank, while the MG34’s barrel made it considerably quick. Both guns are excellent weapons either way

[@123456gordon]

Tovarich Ivan is simple person, he sees Soviet weaponry, he leaves like.

[@colinray5755]

For those who don’t know Tovarich-Comrade If I am not mistaken

[@VendPrekmurec]

@@colinray5755 Tovarish or Tavarish, not "Tovarich". Term "Tovarna" remained until today in slavic languages as "factory"

[@awmperry]

My favourite bit of PPSh-41 trivia is the way it was used in the Tupolev Tu-2 as a ground attack weapon, with dozens of the things fitted in racks in the bomb bay pointing down. Brilliantly mad variant.

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Austria-Hungary did something similar in WW1 with Mauser C96 pistols. But they only had 10 pistols. The Soviets had 88 PPSh's.

[@leonidandreev1171]

Shpagin: Here's a *simplified* submachine gun! Sudayev: Hold my kvas... ( _bangs on some sheet metal with a piece of steel pipe_ )

[@j4ff4c3ks1]

Whenever i watch Ian's videos of World War era weapons, i'm surprised by how simple these simplified wartime weapons are in their construction, making me feel that "man, I could build one of those in a garage," and now with the PPSh i've never felt it more.

[@dbmail545]

The PPS-43 was designed to be absolutely buildable in a garage workshop. The rifled barrel and the trunion are the only pieces that you couldn't easily make in a small shop.

[@Blondie-Actual]

@Justin Last I see you are a goon of culture as well.

[@Blondie-Actual]

Yeah, dont expect to be able to build this and still have a dog, sorry bro, the ATF is anti fido

[@BigWheel.]

@@dbmail545 you could try a pre made barrel and rifle it yourself with a tap and die. If you hate yourself of course.

[@raaston9761]

@@Blondie-Actual to quote dmx "fuck the atf"

[@SentimentalBadger]

Soviet utilitarianism at its finest.

[@nguyenming1987]

well if that is the case you will love the PPS-43

[@luckyalbanotti1741]

-Vasily, dont make it too complicated! -Just one more piece boss... -Vasily!!!

[@chancearden7803]

Ian I think you got a slight crush on Finland don't you?

[@borisbuliak3626]

Chance Arden, I know of a lot of Russians that respect what the Finns did to some Russian designed weapons. They also made their stand alone weapons but more often than not they copied the Russians not the other way around. No Russian I know will dispute that the Finnish Mosin is better, it's just a fact. Also like Ian said they weren't making the same amount of guns as a country with over 200 million people.

[@mashamylaramu]

No Russian I know has ever heard of "Finnish Mosin", this is a myth, the Finland has never really mass produced Mosins, they did upgrade and tuning on original Mosin, I can agree this was super duper upgrade and tuning, thumbs up! But speaking of some kind of "Finnish Mosin" is a nonsense . Tell me: if Finland was so advanced, why wouldn't they use rimless cartridge for their Mosin, which would make much more sense for "developed" county?

[@borisbuliak3626]

You of know that Finland was part of Russia? If you do it should answer why they chose to keep the 7.62x54R, a cartridge that's been proven. Why all of the sudden go and change cartridges when in a middle of the war? Nothing you're saying makes any sense, they didn't mass produce them? huh..? maybe not in the quantities of mother Russia but they did produce their own stand alone model. They're worth more than the Russian one(with few exceptions, rarity and specificity as to who owned a certain model, but that's it) because of higher quality an lesser production. It's called capitalism

[@mashamylaramu]

Ok, i was exaggerating, Finland has produced some, most likely it was re-chambering. There are not too many Russians who ever track the clones of original Mosin, and those "Russians" who look for "Finnish Mosin" they are either not exist or just some neo-nazis or just living in the "west" and drinking cool-aid daily. Don't get me wrong: I was born in Soviet Union and going through whole process of "communist brainwashing" have never heard a bad word about Finland. I love Nokia brand as it reminds me childhood - in my city the underground telephone cables were mostly "Nokia", I was so glad to use nokia phones when it wasn't ms, and still consider them one of the best pieces of hardware I've ever handled. I have 2 finnish made puukko knives in my collection as I appreciate traditions of Finnish people and have respect for them. But I would never ever even touch Finnish-made Mosin.

[@borisbuliak3626]

@@mashamylaramu fine don't buy any "finish" naggants. I'll buy whatever u want. I also grew up in former USSR. I managed not to get brainwashed either, but am not a blind patriot. Credit were credit us due, the Finns elevated the mosin. Saying that doesn't offend my patriotism. Guess what the Germans also made great weapons, so did the Soviets too bad if somebody doesn't like it. But that's no reason to put ither designs down. That's what i meant to say.

[@zach344]

Why is it every time a gun releases in Cold War a Forgotten weapons video pops up for it

[@bl3ckrust]

this is not a forgotten weapon, this is a classic

[@jean-loupdesbordes4833]

Simplicity is mother of reliability. This gun is damned good for the low ressources they had for mass producing by that time.

[@ouberfox5898]

the gun is so simple yet brilliant and pretty reliable and also beautiful all around my my favourite gun

[@carlbloomquist708]

MASH TV Series, Season 3, episode 2... Trapper: "Those are Russian Burp Guns, they fire 30 rounds a second...." Hawkeye: "Thank you , Dr. Morale."

[@kurtbergh]

This is just so beautiful. The rate of effectiveness/simplicity is amazing.

[@drunkensailor775]

One thing that annoys me. It's P-P-Sh(pistolet pulemet of shpagin) Sh stands for Shpagin you pronounce it as PPSHa - "Sha" like in "sha"dow Sorry, Couldn't help myself.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

I read something once that said you pronounced it something like "PepiSha". .

[@jerromedrakejr9332]

@Dennis Young Well, Slavic isn't a English language - so letters like X or Y isn't part of it, but I can pronounce all English letters. So, thing is very simple - you want to understand or do not want to understand. He does not want to understand. After all, you do not have letter Š but you have vocal Š: Shut (up) for example.

[@JohnsonTheSecond]

is it not "PuPuSha"?

[@meszaroscsaba8183]

In Hungary : ~ "Pé-Pé-eS(h)

[@dweebus3698]

Это быстро РАРОША

[@mcchazster9376]

Last time I was this early, Germany looked like they would beat the ruskies

[@anhk_yt]

McChazster 1916 then

[@mcchazster9376]

Anhk94 yup

[@user-zj1uf8hs6t]

McChazster What?

[@TheApaura]

Last time I was this early, Germany was still in it's Weimar day's.

[@nocooldudes7614]

McChazster when I was this early the master didn't create the abominations know bad super mutants

[@dustinstewart1194]

Random person with this gun: “hmm it’s pretty good but it could use some attachments to optimize the gun” Everyone in this comment section: “Nyet comrade, sub machine gun is fine, if you run out of ammo simply use gun as club to defend motherland”

[@neilwilson5785]

A ten and twenty metre sight would have been good in Stalingrad.

[@XSpamDragonX]

I always loved seeing people have to jiggle the drum around to get it in or out of the magazine well.

[@pyr0maan0]

Have you heard the story about these drum mags being used as a seat by soldiers, and the guns jammed after it because of deformation, and they couldnt find this issue for a long time

[@therideneverends1697]

pyr0maan0 no because slavs squat, a mag would be a terrible seat

[@dj1NM3]

There is at least one photo of some twit actually doing that: www.ppsh41.com/049_tanke.jpg

[@Piromanofeliz]

Jeff NME Lol. I know russian guns are known to be strudy, but this is just ridiculous. Who thought that was a good idea? Oh, yes, a tired soldier.

[@weisthor0815]

well, i guess they developed slav squat so that this would never happen again ;)

[@Tombombadillo999]

pyr0maan0 stereotypical russian behaviour... theyve been “vine” masters since always... XD

[@Zombiefacee]

POV ur here bc KZbin’s algorithm is unmatched.

[@meatbyproducts]

This is one of my favorite Firearms ever made and I had two while I was in Afghanistan. Not that I carry around in Afghanistan. Got to take the range a couple times after I acquired ammo and absolutely love this thing. I mean the Russians made something like six million of them 4 years or something

[@dbmail545]

And the Germans grabbed them up at every opportunity. However, that was to keep them out of the hands of partisans primarily.

[@interstellarlapisthecccp4946]

I've watched this like a million times already but I'm watching it again since I bought a PPSH-41 today. Hopefully Ian gives me some really salient arguments for why I didn't just waste thousands of dollars on a piece of scrap metal and plywood.

[@alexm566]

update? did you get to shoot it?

[@ImperceptibleX]

What took you so long to do this weapon!!! And you gotta love Russian weapons : 8:45 "AND That's it. All you do, is pull the bolt out, and Clean it. I Guess." L0L, if you feel like cleaning it. Maybe later comrade, it's Russian... Great Videos, keep it up Ian! Can't wait to see you unload a drum full auto man.

[@Nik930714]

Ou someone on youtube said Georgi correctly, and didn't just go with George or something like that. I have to say, i'm impressed, good job Ian.

[@johnnybobtrucker4416]

Thanks for the history gun jesus!

[@frankus54]

The lord of roar!

[@SASHA-the-EXPLORER]

The PPD-40 was not the first Soviet submachine gun adopted, it was the PPD-34, created in 1934. However, the military did not really appreciate the effectiveness of this type of weapon and its production was quickly curtailed, and the remnants of the PPD-34 were transferred to the NKVD Border Troops. The author is right that during the" Winter War " soldiers began to demand the return of submachine guns to the troops, because the AVS-36 automatic rifles that were in service refused to work in cold conditions, which significantly reduced the firepower of the Soviet infantry. Yes, Soviet gunsmiths copied the magazine from "Suomi", but it was not the first Soviet drum magazine and was installed primarily on the modernized PPD-34 \ 38, and only then on the PPD-40 and PPSH-41 that appeared later. Thank you for the video!👍

[@phottiogames56]

Got recommended to me after the season 3 cold war update, anyone?

[@xyxyxyxyxy6762]

For me too, a pleasant surprise

[@jaredc.3508]

"You're not really gonna be cranking these things out on a little 20 ton Harbor Freight press" Calling out Harbor Freight I see.

[@lovepeace9727]

Soviets when cheap SMG is needed: *make it PERFECT, cheap and fast* USA when Tommy gun's too pricy: *Cheap and fine - grease gun* Brits when everything is bad: *toilet pipe and spring will do it* Germany when soldiers are begging for SMG's: *WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SIMPLIFY* !? Japan when shit hits the fan and even super simplified Arisaka rifles are too pricy: *SimPlifY bAmBoO sTiCk*

[@2dollarchickenwings689]

Sharpened bamboo fragments yeeted at moderately impressive speeds

[@JDX28]

My SMG of choice when playing WW2. Absurdly high fire rate, moderately heavy, works better with box mags compared to the drum mag. Handsome design n silhouette even with it using stamped metal on much of it. Passable sights with a heat shield covering the barrel. The PPS is well designed too, it being a barebones version.

[@JoshQuake]

This video is an awesome source of reference images for 3d modelling. Thanks for the extremely detailed look at all the parts!

[@ogscarl3t375]

*When the forests speak in Finnish and you realize you need SMG's again...*

[@warcrimeenjoyer881]

Again? Did russia ever had SMGs prior to WW2?

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

@@warcrimeenjoyer881 They had the PPD-34

[@hotblackdesiato5771]

When he says "high volume production", hes not kidding. They made millions of these things. So many were made they could mount 88 of these bullet hoses in a single Tupolev Tu-2 for testing as a ground attack aircraft; multiple prototypes even.

[@andyraven]

one of if not the best example of keep it simple stupid.

[@JonJonGTA]

Sten series,the M56 a Yugoslav version of the MP-40 and the pps-43 are really simple compared to this gun. Compared to other guns its not as simple since the ppsh is milled and the others are made of stamped sheet metal. Plus needing skilled workers and longer finnish times. Edit: yes i messed up there is only one milled part but the other 2 guns i listed are much simpler when compared to this sub gun.

[@mordentus]

Did you miss the video? Ian shows the only one milled part of PPSh there

[@JonJonGTA]

mordentus yea i messed up on that one part. But i am still right about there are much simpler and cheaper and less time consuming guns. In the video Ian consistently states that for a gun that was supposed to be simple and manufactured quickly it still took a lot of time and money.

[@JonJonGTA]

mordentus and the rear buffer pad problem ian also stated. Making it hard to use other materials to substitute that particular part.

[@konyina]

Jonathan The M56 and M49 are much more expensive and complicated than the Spagin. The M49 is a tehnically a Beretta M38 with a PPSh trigger group. The M56 is a copy of the Mp40, just oversimplified. The sten guns were cheaper to manufacture, yes, but they were also a blatant copy of the Mp40, again, oversimplified. Mp40 is a simple and design compared to, say, Thompsons, M38s, K31, PPD40s etc. But compared to a Spagin or Pps43, it's nuclear science.

[@ultimis_nikolai_belinski_ussr]

My grandfather said that the kit included 3 magazines for the PPSH and another one in the submachine gun, the soldiers preferred drum magazines at 71 rounds, no one liked magazines at 35 rounds. He said that there is nothing more accurate, reliable and better than PPSH. If there was a choice between Drum magazines and magazines for 35 rounds, everyone chose drum magazines. Дед говорил что к ппш шло 3 магазина и ещё один в автомате. Солдаты любили и предпочитали барабанные магазины на 71 патрон, на 35 патронов никто не любил. Он говорил что лучше, надёжнее и точней чем ппш ничего нет. Если был выбор между барабанным магазином и на 35 патронов, все брали барабанный.

[@awc6007]

Victor Reznov liked this video

[@timMycat-ov2kg]

Even my Sgt. Rock comic book had the PPSh-41 in it. Called it a burp gun.

[@kuoseis]

Russians stole our reputation -Not actually angry Finn

[@daniluk1997thebest]

Say it to PPD-34 (Degtyarev SMG manufactured and adopted in 1934). Like Suomi, it's a MP-18 copy (sort of).

[@foleymaj]

Also our current service rifle is basically an AK.

[@redneck96100]

KOLMEKAKKONE With what?

[@kuoseis]

the ppsh is a copy of suomi-konepistooli m31. When people have to say famous ww2 weapons, they will probably say ppsh and not suomi-konepistooli m31. And also some people say that "oh, thats a ppsh", when it clearly is a m31. Im not angry nor hating, but they still kinda stole it. I know that the suomi m31 is based of the mp18, but that was a famous ww1 submachine gun, and probably will always be the "first submachine gun in a large scale".

[@redneck96100]

KOLMEKAKKONE "the ppsh is a copy of suomi-konepistooli m31" It is not, they are two different designs. " And also some people say that "oh, thats a ppsh", when it clearly is a m31." That's because they are 13 and get their "gun knowledge" from Call of duty.

[@ВладимирТурсуков-р2ю]

Hey from Russia! My grandfather served in the Soviet Army in the early 1950s. It had a 71-cartridge disc magazine. Apparently, the advantages of a direct magazine are debatable with large losses in firepower.

[@bartwardenn555]

I got the privilege to hold one of these as well as a Tokarev when a Korean War vet presented at my high school a few years ago

[@p.garvey1822]

Failed to take over the world

[@shawnr771]

Preston Garvey He did fail. Everybody else succeeded in kicking his teeth in.

[@mclaine33]

Wow that's something special. I'm actually surprised he was able to get permission from the school and local government to bring in those weapons. I'm sure he had a huge amount of legal paperwork to fill out.

[@adamcochran1309]

No, just a loaded 71 round drum.

[@p.garvey1822]

Shawn R yeah no

[@David77646]

Also used during Korean and Vietnam Wars by communist forces

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Yes and more so by the PLA Commies during the Korean War.

[@dbmail545]

These were the original "burp guns " called so because of their high rate of fire.

[@cherylynn2005]

@@HighSpeedNoDrag Interesting bit of trivia the 41s that the Chinese PVA used during the Korean War were given the nickname "Mao's Banjos".

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

@@cherylynn2005 Love it and thanks for the comment.

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Also used recently in Norway in a drive-by shooting. They shot up an empty store in the middle of the night, probably to make a point to the store owner. Like straight out of an Italian mafia movie or 1920's Chicago. Then they threw the gun out of the car and left it on the ground for some reason...It was pictures of it in the news. This happened last year and the shooter(s) was never caught.

[@danvlasuk]

Ok, dumb question from non-native english speaker: why do you pronounce Sh in Shpagin in a correct manner, but in PPSh you pronounce them separately?

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

danvlasuk Isn't PPSh an acronym? If so, that would be why.

[@matthewkriebel7342]

Because the Latin alphabet doesn't have a single-character 'sh', and initialisms are just read out as letters. Ian probably knows it would be a "pa pa sha" in Eastern Europe, but e.g. Americans would only be used to it Latinized.

[@bbcmotd]

that's because they also pronounce BMW as "bee ehm double you" and not "bae ehm vae". Yanks...

[@Tunkkis]

Matthew Kriebel isn't š the latin alphabet equivalent of the cyrillic ш/sh?

[@jumperharz6270]

RonJohn63 don't forget ist Porsche not Porsh ..always makes me want to punch people in the face when they butcher that name.

[@RMoribayashi]

Great thing about being a latecomer to the channel... I get to spend a rainy Sunday afternoon watching old Forgotten Weapons videos I've never seen before.

[@ouberfox5898]

my favourite gun

[@tomburress4928]

If there is one thing the Russians knew how to do best it was simple design in make and to mass produce firearms. Their weapons manufacturing certainly from mosin and ppsh to the Kalashnikov certainly showcased this. Even today old Soviet aks still stand up on the battlefield

[@riegen.]

The ppsh is such a beautiful sub machine gun truly one of my favourites next to a thompson

[@FayazAhmad-yl6sp]

No match Thompson with PPSh-41 the PPSh is mutch durable and reliable.

[@talknight2]

Finding a mag that works with your gun is something I can relate to even today, having used an M16A2. There are several models of mags in circulation for these rifles and the cheap aluminum-ish ones are so flimsy that just dropping one on the ground might bend the spring out of shape (and possibly eject bullets all over the floor).

[@quadroninja2708]

Yes, PPSh's were made by women and children without any quality control, so chambers were just fitted with a file

[@A333A343A346]

I have a soft spot for the PPSH. I was fortunate enough to get my hands on a “new” one in the Angolan conflict in 1975. It was solid, reliable and worked. It was a far more useful weapon than our SADF issued FN 7.62 “R1”. A big advantage over the FN was the magazine size. It wasn’t accurate and pretty much useless beyond 100m but if I was in a jam, I’d take the PPSH over the R1 any day. The weight of the R1 was a big issue too.

[@maksimegaloman]

I've looked at this and pps43 videos like 20 times. The Russians are the best weapons designers ever!!! Truly love the guns, and Ian's videos!

[@a.c.2499]

Yeah, I'd hate carrying and using drums for this gun. I would much rather carry a stick mag. It would be easier to grasp with both hands and use more comfortably, especially being able to hold it by the mag/magwell.

[@travispad2209]

Still probably one of my favorite guns, tbh.

[@JoacinoDaGona]

This gun is proof that you can turn even the dumbest conscript into killer, if you give him a gun that puts high enough volume of fire towards the enemy.

[@Russão000]

Dude this behind you its a fkn SKS with AK Drum mag????????? lmao Warzone Loadouts goes crazy

[@trailerparkprdgy8536]

Love how they recommend this to me 2 days after they put it in warzone

[@Sniffzoer]

Many manufacturers was flexing with their products until war broke out and they had to mass produce. the german P90 and the British submachinegun (brengun?) was pretty prectical for production. The American Thompson was probably the best submachine in the war but they had to downgrade it alot to keep up with the demands. Im not that into guns, but WW2 is interesting and how the desperate situation made them come up with many clever solutions. 😊 Thanks for video bro! 👍

[@jonugalde1275]

That weapon has an excelent wood grain orientation. I don't know if it has been done by purpose, but it it is it shows very good material selection in wood too.

[@christopherliese4709]

How is this gun forgotten is is one of the most iconic guns in movies and games

[@olderthanyoucali8512]

As a boy in the fifties, the Korean was was going, I remember this weapon was referred to as a " Burp Gun ". This could be why 80% of all German army combat deaths were in the Eastern front!

[@MILITARY-TUBE]

Cool smg. In my opinion better than the MP 40.

[@Dave.S.TT600]

Just watched both your ppsh-41 vids. Brilliant work. THANK YOU. Great videos, very well-filmed and narrated!

[@jesusmariomaciasgonzalezel799]

Arma Rusa ( Sovietica ), usada en la 2°, guerra mundial, por el ejército Sovietico. 22/3/20.

[@Not_Sure_81]

Dear Santa. Could you Please repeal the NFA and the Hughes amendment for Christmas? And if it's not too much to ask...please take the F out of the ATF. C'mon Santa. Ive been mostly good this year 🙏

[@bradenpetty3828]

Recoil Junkie1981 wot?

[@KingdomOfDimensions]

Should probably take the A and T out of ATF as well. Pretty sure the DEA and FBI can do everything the ATF does, and then we'd have one less undemocratic bureau of jackboot thugs making the rules around here.

[@coyoteannabis1192]

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a shopping list, not a government agency.

[@robertverschueren9136]

good and clear explanation of all the parts. Thx !

[@TyBowman117]

My personal favorite sub gun of WWII. One day I’d love to shoot one!

[@RedSkyYT64]

"you're not really gonna be cranking these things out on a little 20T harbor freight press." ... Goddammit, there goes my entire summer plans.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

PPSh-41 probably the best "shotgun" ever build xD

[@csjudgement6012]

I am so lost can you please explain this joke

[@davelop5507]

I want one of these for my collection.

[@treyichabod5840]

Let me take a moment to praise Forgotten Weapons channel. And offer my thanks for giving us so many great videos. As a history lover, it is great to have a channel dedicated to teaching people about so many of history's most iconic weapons. And teaching us in a way that is interesting to watch and easy to understand even for somebody who doesn't have much experience with weapons. In a medium dominated by reverse baseball cap wearing, spec ops wannabee guys and their "I'm da maaaaan I shoot guuuuuns" attitude, it's nice to have a normal and likeable person teach you about guns, without stroking his ego every 2 seconds. So thank you for everything.

[@dhurley3468]

Good sniper support choice now that they’ve shadow nerfed the Milano.

[@Volodymyr_SVD]

I actually would like to ask you not use Russians when you are talking about Soviet Union. Almost half of all military casualties of USSR in WW2 are Belorussians and Ukrainians. Many of constructions of most famous weapons, aircraft and tanks of USSR are not developed by engineers with Russian nationality. So you actually underestimate their influence on war by saying Russians when you are talking about Soviet Union which was leaded by Stalin who is also not Russian but Georgian. Thanks in advise.

[@MrOhNooInCider]

So this is the gun I get shitted on by in caldera….

[@edwa407]

You have to know, this guns name, in Russian, not "Pi-Pi-Es-Aich". But "Pe-Pe-Sha"

[@euanferguson3790]

Cheaply build but built to last,

[@patoni860]

The truth is, I'm from Gary Indiana and we invented the BB gun shotgun... Using a Crosman BB gun and a Table leg with a 20-gauge Shell at the end... With the first inversion of duct tape that had ever came out... Popsicle sticks and some coat hangers... You need to quit saying that weapons like that are cheap