My grandpa told me about the Chinese "Tommy Gun" he captured in Korea. I assumed this is what he was talking about. He said he regretted not bringing it home with him.
@xuanyiliew4509 ай бұрын
Could be a Taiyuan or Szechuan Arsenal copy of a M1921 Thompson!
@davefellhoelter13439 ай бұрын
we also gave Chinese "Thompsons", tanks, aircraft, boats, and lots of, fuel, training. One of mine may have been a Flying Tiger, another Air America, maybe FedX? not "Taiwan" FORMOSA!
@parasitic13449 ай бұрын
One thing i miss about the good ol days was the end of the month auction sold price list. Was always interesting seeing what items like this would go for
@Jreb18659 ай бұрын
If it's a transferable, the sky is the limit on this one...
@JosephSeibert-d8e9 ай бұрын
I hadn't thought about that in a long time,yeah I was really interested in seeing what some firearms sold for at auction.
@ulyssesarias44009 ай бұрын
One thing i miss is subs with wood furniture
@alangordon32839 ай бұрын
There’s nothing stopping you looking it up on the auction site 🤷♂️
@stevejohnson65939 ай бұрын
@@alangordon3283 the gun MIGHT already be gone, I'm not sure he uploads in order of recording anymore
@joshmeads9 ай бұрын
Over 300,000 guns in just a few years is impressive, especially considering they weren't going full force like if they had been at war.
@matthayward78899 ай бұрын
I’ve always loved the look of the PPSh in all its versions. This is especially fascinating!
@plumbherhub16649 ай бұрын
My second favorite smg in ww2. The pps43 is my top. The mp40 is nice but something about a stamped factory gun that looks like a school project gets me.
@dennisyoung46319 ай бұрын
Those things are heavier than you might think, too. I recall holding one, briefly, at a gun show about thirty years ago.
@danielwordsworth18439 ай бұрын
When I held PPSh, I was surprised it felt lighter than I expected also, it was smaller in hands than it looked on photos, but the egonomy was awesome
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab94013 ай бұрын
Chinese PPSh
@JuddKramer9 ай бұрын
So this is what Aldo Ray's character was trying to allude to in The Green Beret's when he held up a PPSh and called it a "Chee-Kom K50"
@spinnirack36459 ай бұрын
Always interesting to see the differences between Chinese copies and the originals
@djdrack46819 ай бұрын
back when Chinese copies were 'decent to good' quality. nowadays you look at their copies (of most things) and its good from distance, but utter crap when you look under hood. IE Land Wind (rip of a Range Rover SUV). Looks like a great copy, but engine is POS, electronics suck, stitching is bad, no safety testing etc. THEN again. this was era where the gun was just 'bend/stamped' sheet metal + wood. Originally designed so Joe soviet w/ no education could mass produce em in soviet factories...so i guess making decent PPsh/Norinco's SKS clones isn't exactly too high a bar too.
@DeanmC2619939 ай бұрын
@@djdrack4681well increased consolidation and corporatization generally saps creativity or ingenuity out of whatever creators are making, humble artisan vs souless cash grabbing company etc
@Snougaloogie9 ай бұрын
@@djdrack4681tbf Chinese firearm copies from that period forward are good to go. I knew a gentleman who lived in the Middle East who owned a Norinco nade AR-15 that was essentially a semi only M4 (chrome lined barrel, H2 buffer) and it was by all accounts a fantastic gun
@KrikZ329 ай бұрын
@@Snougaloogie Was just going to say the same thing, Chinese knockoffs are often not a great sign of quality but when it comes to firearms they're honestly very good, sometimes even better than the original.
@djdrack46819 ай бұрын
@@DeanmC261993 greed. that is why commercial airline industry is super sh1t. there are (in 'West') only 2: Boeing and Airbus; there a few smaller ones (I think Antonov for former Easter block); but yeah no creativity/competition/innovation...
@Eric-vs2he9 ай бұрын
For those wondering ww2 after ww2 is still being regularly updated, the latest post was from 25th of March 2024
@AJMBLAZER9 ай бұрын
Yep. Active!
@itsconnorstime9 ай бұрын
I love that website, when I saw gun city in the title I wondered if that was the source for this video.
@VaterOrlaag9 ай бұрын
What about the other one, ww2 before ww2, mentioned at the end?
@jft19119 ай бұрын
Yep, seems to put out one essay a month.
@JustaGuy12509 ай бұрын
Hey, do you happen to know how one can contact the author for that blog? I am a historian, currently researching Chinese firearms from the 1950's (including the type-50) and would like to discuss some findings with him and the information in his blog
@garrow122259 ай бұрын
Gun City has a nice ring to it.
@vermiworm9 ай бұрын
Thought the same thing, Gun City sounds wild. Would book a hotel there if I could.
@bristleback36149 ай бұрын
You know, both in video games or in real life this gun is very fun to shoot and the fact both also fitted with drum mag instead of stick mag just icing the cake
@jcameronferguson9 ай бұрын
In my home of Oklahoma City, there's a museum for the 45th Infantry Division. One of the coolest exhibits they have is a Korean War-captured Type 50, with its drum mag and bolt welded in place, that is attached by chain to a plinth. Those suckers are dense! They feel real substantial in the hand. I love the PPSh unironically -- any gun with an ROF that high will always have a place in my heart.
@ValidSurvival9 ай бұрын
The tweaks like the rear aperture sight add a unique touch to this iconic weapon.
@matthayward78899 ай бұрын
5:59 Ian’s been spending too much time around the chieftan!
@DiggingForFacts9 ай бұрын
Or not enough, depending on your perspective 😉
@matthayward78899 ай бұрын
@@DiggingForFacts 😂😂
@JGCR599 ай бұрын
I was thinking about that WW2afterWW2 blog article too. This is a fantastic blog. And neither defunct nor only about Small Arms. Lots of articles dealing with naval matters especially
@kaibowman48039 ай бұрын
This has to be the earliest ive ever caught a video, much less a Forgotten Weapons video. Cheers lads
@AM-ni3sz9 ай бұрын
I wasn’t expecting a history lesson, but thanks for the explanation.
@1boortzfan9 ай бұрын
thanks for the deep dive Ian.
@Panda42-ul5if9 ай бұрын
Great vid, as always. Especially interesting to hear mention of Mukden, since I'm currently living in Shenyang. I've never heard of Bei'an (Gun City), but I'll definitely ask around and I'm sure I'll find it without much difficulty. Lots of history both ancient and more recent in this part of the world. Lots of love from an Irishman in China.
@mcmillantac33699 ай бұрын
Nowaday, The Factory 626 has shut down and closed in 2006, became gun museum. If you have a free time, you could visit that 626 museum.
@Panda42-ul5if9 ай бұрын
@@mcmillantac3369 Wow! I will definitely pay a visit as soon as possible, there's bound to be lots of interesting exhibits! Thanks for the info!
@RSpracticalshooting9 ай бұрын
Always love your videos Ian! Hoping to get to meet you when I go to Shot Show next year! Had to sit it out this year.
@vincentchoiniere92619 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the content! And I love how there are just 2 chauchats in the background lol
@dagmarsuarez30339 ай бұрын
Mukden, sometimes also known as Hoten, was also the site of a large POW camp where many Allied prisoners were forced to work. Not, so far as I can tell, in the arsenal. Mostly aircraft parts. Fascinating stories from there.
@Berthier_Enjoyer9 ай бұрын
Mukden and Hoten are the same characters just read in Manchu and Japanese respectfully. Same with Incheon and Jinsen.
@Dominic19629 ай бұрын
My great uncle ended up there from the Bataan Death March. Sabotaged engines and got a medal for it.
@Ealsante9 ай бұрын
@@Berthier_Enjoyer Not quite: Mukden is the Manchu name which was translated to Chinese as 盛京 'Shengjing', Prosperous Capital. Hoten (Japanese) and Fengtian (Mandarin) are the same characters, 奉天, which translates to 'obeying Heaven' because it was the city where the Manchus first claimed the imperial title. Not the same name.
@dagmarsuarez30339 ай бұрын
@@Dominic1962 I hope you've had a chance to read the diary kept by a Major Peaty. He had a hand written diary that he had transcribed/typed up immediately after the Red Army came along to liberate them. Such stories.....
@mikloridden82769 ай бұрын
@@Dominic1962 It’s crazy that he made it(thank god) because that area was where they were conducting human experiments on people. Manchuria was a death sentence for anyone not Japanese during WW2. After “liberation” the Soviets also subjected the population to a series of violence both physical and sexual. Yikes.
@DefunctYompelvert9 ай бұрын
I always surprised when I read the type 50 couldn’t use drums but then I realised the Thompson M1 got deleted the drum feature it so just accepted it as fact. How did the US get that wrong.. surely they must have captured some with drums. Another Korean War gun myth to go along with the SKS and m1 carbine penetration
@DanielDracohun9 ай бұрын
Probaly they have tried to use the drums with the guns that they didnt fit, so they assumed that the drums were for another weapon...
@clothar239 ай бұрын
To be fair to the M1 myth a lot of the more well equipped Communist forces would have had early manufactured AKs. Those slab sided Ak mags were particularly tough . And when fully loaded I could see .30 cal struggling to punch through them. And given how particularly popular chest rigs were becoming ...Well you get a couple GIs who run into them and stuff starts spreading ya dig.
@andreww20989 ай бұрын
@@clothar23 Had more to do with thick winter clothes hiding blood and the Chinese/North Koreans all allegedly being out their minds on drugs just not feeling being shot
@johnyricco12209 ай бұрын
@@clothar23 There were no AKs in the Korean War. He first time the Soviets showed off the rifle was during the Hungarian Revolution. Chinese troops did commonly wear Type 50 mags in chest rigs. They invented that type of rig in the 1940s.
@DefunctYompelvert9 ай бұрын
@@clothar23The US didn’t know about the existence of the AK and SKS until 1956
@dwrdwlsn59 ай бұрын
'Significant emotional event' LOL So very true.
@vaclav_fejt9 ай бұрын
(c) Lt. Col. Nicholas Moran
@MSgtofMarines9 ай бұрын
When I was in Iraq, we found tons of stuff like that. There were two train box cars full of small arms up next to our armory. I mean everything from 1850's revolvers to Browning Goose guns, WW1, WWII, and the cold war. Every make and model. Even put a Sweedish K, on the wall in the COC. It was incredible.
@ILeelL9 ай бұрын
I have been watching your videos for about nine years, thank you. I still find your videos interesting and entertaining. The next time you come to Finland (hopefully) there is an interesting winter war museum in Suomussalmi.
@andrew811ful9 ай бұрын
Wow, appreciate Ian rocking the marathon watch
@beaker1269 ай бұрын
I remember an episode of "MASH" where to North Korean soldiers were shown carrying these, probably represented by Russian examples.
@DaveTex23759 ай бұрын
That really was a great show.
@JR99799 ай бұрын
They called them Russian "Burp Guns"....they fire 30 rounds per second. That is what i remember.
@beaker1269 ай бұрын
@JR9979 I think they turned into gag, Radar was like "They shoot 30 corporals a second!"
@hurricane5679 ай бұрын
@@beaker126is that the one where Burns hold out is a little bitty gun and they laugh at him?
@beaker1269 ай бұрын
@@hurricane567 It might be. I remember that one too.
@billy560819 ай бұрын
One of the top sub guns ever made.
@BobSmith-dk8nw9 ай бұрын
Thanks Ian. That was interesting. A few things about China and Japan _China At War_ by Hans van de Ven is an excellent book on the title subject and is available on Amazon. Japan had decided that the way to avoid becoming a Colony - was to become a Colonial Power. They occupied Taiwan and Manchuria. China had been controlled by the War Lords after the Central Government lost power at the turn of the century and local military commanders and bandits had come to rule. Sun Yat-sen - China's George Washington - had founded the Whampoa Military Academy in Canton to take back China from the War Lords. The Communists and Nationalists worked together under Sun. The cadets of this academy launched _"The Northern Expedition"_ in about 1925. Unfortunately Sun died of Cancer and Chiang Kai-shek took over. At first they defeated and dismembered War Lord Armies but ran out of Cadets to run them - so - they began accepting defeated War Lord Armies into their own - commanded by the War Lords - who largely kept their provinces - just now under the Nationalists. Most of the War Lords came to terms with the Nationalists and they theoretically ruled China. Chiang turned on the Communists - a book on that is _"Man's Fate"_ by André Malraux. The Nationalists drove the Communists back into Yenan after the long march. Manchuria had been controlled by the War Lord know as _"The Old Marshall"_ . The Japanese blew up his train, killed him and drove his Army - under _"The Young Marshall" out of Manchuria. Here Chiang wanted The Young Marshall to attack the Communists but they were fraternizing with his troops - _"Why fight each other? We should be fighting the Japanese."_ Chiang went up there to make the Young Marshall attack the Communists but he arrested Chiang and turned him over to the Communists. They struck a deal - the Communists would let him go and he would stop attacking them. The Communists wanted to defeat the Nationalists but were not strong enough to do it. So - the wanted the Japanese to do it for them. They infiltrated a Nationalist Patrol and then fired on a Japanese Patrol. Long story short - this started WWII in the Summer of 1937 (yes - not 9/1/39) at the Marco Polo Bridge Incident. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Polo_Bridge_incident Russia invaded Manchuria after the bombs were dropped. The Kwantung Army surrendered to them when Japan Surrendered. The Russians then matched up a Communist Unit with a Japanese Unit and had the Japanese turn over all it's weapons and equipment to the Communist unit - as well as anyone needed to use or maintain the equipment. This was the Army that they supplied and which won the Civil War against the Nationalists. Truman - because the Nationalists were corrupt - termed aid to the Nationalists as _"Sand down a Rat Hole."_ cut off their supplies and they lost to the Communists. The Americans abandoned China to the Communists and in addition to the millions of people the Communists killed on purpose - in about 1959 - they killed between 15 and 55 million people by accident. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine The Americans would then off course - abandon Vietnam and Southeast Asia to the Communists and millions more would die. Trump signed a Separate Treaty with the Taliban - abandoning all in Afghanistan who had fought for us - and Biden carried it out - but I have no figures on how many people died because of this American Betrayal. As a Child I was proud to be an American - and served in the Marines. I'm proud of the American Military - but not America. The biggest lie Ronald Reagan told the Americans was that they were "Good People". They weren't. Good People don't abandon their allies. .
@xzqzq8 ай бұрын
Excellent post. Wish I could do as well. Sun-Yat-Sen spend time on Maui, and we have a small park & statue dedicated to him....I wanted to save this post, but can't print it out by itself.... America is indeed a rather fickle ally, very like to abandon allies when it is inconvenient to continue to support them....The media very much drives this process. The NYT star reporter winning a Nobel shilling for Stalin, even as he murdered millions of his own people. Doing the same for Castro, even as he would literally drain the life's-blood of political enemies prior to their execution. The irony of a white Cuban lawyer overthrowing a black government, subsequently filling the prisons with black political prisoners, and hosting the Congressional Black Caucus appears to have escaped the media... I well remember the media stories regarding the Shah and the Savak, about the torture of domestic enemies. Of course, after we abandoned the Shah, and the real killing started, continuing to this day, the media found other interests to rant about. President Trump, for one. Same thing with our war in Vietnam. Once the North had conquered the South, and the cleanup of Southerners commenced, with ' re-education camps ' and thousands fleeing toward Thailand, media disinterest followed....
@dirtyscavanger9 ай бұрын
Cool history!!!
@SausagecatChannel9 ай бұрын
Like 7.62x 25. Was ahead of its time. Is one of those cartridges floatin on the fringe like .357 sig that goes more velocity than mass in practice. Like that in no small part due to p.s.a., 5.7x28 is becoming more available. The 7.62x25 tokarev round kinda specs keep poppin up time to time, like the .30 supercarry or .327 mag. Haha Or .30 carbine. Where a zippy .30 just aint bad compared to a slower 9 or .45 at range. Dont get me wrong. I like em big too. But sometimes flat is where its at. You got a long strong even trajectory and that kinda shootin can be pretty hot as well with a carbine or even with a pistol. My modded g40 10mm handgun, can hit as hard as a m1 carbine or on hotter loads +that, at the same range with higher velocity solid copper rounds out of a 6.5 inch barrel. Never tested any spicy handloads and aint gonna outta my g40. Underwood and buffalobore ammo are caliente enough for the frame I figure and aint gonna push it 👍
@fjallaxd73559 ай бұрын
Good video.
@sealove79able9 ай бұрын
a great very interesting video and pcc Mr.GJ.have a good one.
@fungusamongus694209 ай бұрын
Early PRC arsenals like 626 and 296 would also have their second digit taken out in some arsenal stamps. So 626 would have a "triangle 66" stamp and 296 would have a "triangle 26" stamp. Arsenal 626 also has its own small arms museum, even long after it has closed down. There's a Type 54 (TT-33) commemorative plaque there, complete with the triangle 66 emblem.
@AM-ni3sz9 ай бұрын
I am amazed that you have made a career out of this. But I do enjoy watching your videos. Well done.
@jasonz77889 ай бұрын
Awesome thanks Ian
@armorer949 ай бұрын
Wow, I just happen to own a factory 626 SKS.
@drewpackman29299 ай бұрын
Me too.
@jensenwilliam54349 ай бұрын
Me three
@jmjedi9239 ай бұрын
I don't. :(
@drewpackman29299 ай бұрын
@@jmjedi923 then I understand the sad face. They may soon prove to be very useful.
@JustaGuy12509 ай бұрын
i.e. the most common SKS 626 made like.. 90% of 1950's Chinese firearms
@jensenwilliam54349 ай бұрын
Thank s
@DylanKessler-rm2lx9 ай бұрын
Friend of mine has a NHM 91 from the 626 factory!
@chomskysfavefive9 ай бұрын
Ian you have opened my eyes to the artistry behind small arms! Thanks for building such an accessible recourse.
@napluvr41739 ай бұрын
What is that little loop next to the feed lips on the drum magazine for? I noticed that the suomi drum mags have the same thing.
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
For a lanyard on the magazine.
@Hidalguense9 ай бұрын
I miss the final prices videos of the auctions.
@MrChadsimoneaux9 ай бұрын
Think YT wet their panties over it.
@jango95349 ай бұрын
LETS GOOO NEW VIDEO
@christopherauer79319 ай бұрын
Great Video as always. Seems the ejection port on the chinese PPSh 50 is round and not as square as on the russian PPSH 41. See 10:30 in the video.
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
Yep, I overlooked mentioning it specifically
@christopherauer79319 ай бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons May I suggest to add this "difference" between Chinese and Russian PPSh to the description (text).
@RedXlV9 ай бұрын
12:58 Yeah, I was wondering about that when you showed them side-by-side. Whether the Russian PPSh was actually cruder in manufacture than the Chinese Type 50, or if that was just a somewhat beat-up PPSh example that you had on hand.
@alphabarbs9 ай бұрын
... all I have to say is this; Stitch's real name (from the movie "Lilo & Stitch") is 'Experiment 626'...
@BBC426189 ай бұрын
The Type 50 was nicknamed the "Burp Gun" by American soldiers fighting against the Chinese during the Korean War. The Chinese would arm massive amounts of soldiers with these and use human waves at close range tactics to very deadly use. I've talked to a American Korean war vet and he said that the burp gun was a major threat because they were so common. He actually was surprised by the amount of different types of guns the Chinese actually had. Everything from Japanese American British Soviet and even some German guns were in Chinese use. Alot of these guns would end up in Vietnam afterwards.
@yardslammer009kennedy29 ай бұрын
The Type 50s were also nicknamed "Mao's Banjos" from the Korean War as well.
@Jreb18659 ай бұрын
@@yardslammer009kennedy2Very cool, never heard that before..
@plumbherhub16649 ай бұрын
I do t think those human waves were actually a thing.
@Eric-vs2he9 ай бұрын
I never understand why countries would arm their armies with weapons from different nations, like I can't imagine being a poor Chinese conscript being given the wrong ammo for your gun, or the headache of being an armorer and trying to fix guns from 4 different nations
@yardslammer009kennedy29 ай бұрын
@@Jreb1865 🤙
@jlouisdebondt84119 ай бұрын
I had a Walther PPK model marked "626"
@lyleduragos56099 ай бұрын
so could you theoretically do a type of slap off safety for the PPSh?
@joaoie9 ай бұрын
I really wonder why they seemed to choose to replicate all the same mistakes instead of skipping a few or going straight to the PPS-43
@andersjjensen9 ай бұрын
Information travelled a lot slower back then, and setting up a line-tooling has never been fast.
@Blood2BrokenHeart9 ай бұрын
They probably didn't understand why the Soviets made the changes to production - without the experience of actually making and using the guns a drum mag probably seemed better than a stick and a PPSh looked worth the effort of making over a PPS43 - until you're in a war and it turns out not to be the case
@yanchan97117 ай бұрын
They did it type 54
@malkomalkavian9 ай бұрын
You tell a good tale
@bretsubotnik17779 ай бұрын
There is no way you can't like this guy
@itsconnorstime9 ай бұрын
Ww2 after ww2 is still updated, just a long wait sometimes. They’re long (and informative) articles!
@jimnaz52679 ай бұрын
as expected from you... excellent. QUESTION: Why did they stop producing? What was the major flaw?
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
They switched to the Type 54, which was simpler and cheaper to make.
@davidthomspson97719 ай бұрын
Giggity
@johnjimmies82569 ай бұрын
"on the hole"
@AllAboutSurvival9 ай бұрын
A testament to innovation in the midst of conflict
@kennethhummel44099 ай бұрын
Muckden arsenal? Did the invent that bastardization of the 98 Mauser and Arisaka Type 38, sometimes known as manchuko Mauser s?
@DaremoKamen9 ай бұрын
I've been wondering, in blowback and delayed blowback weapons did anyone make the buffer part of the bolt instead of part of the receiver? It seems to me it would have the same effect, but would also add mass to the bolt.
@coreybonsall9 ай бұрын
"Significant Emotional Event" 🤣🤣🤣
@Goc4ever9 ай бұрын
It's very interesting to see some backstory of the Type 50, the Chinese-made copy of the PPSH, one of the best submachine guns of World War 2. I'm glad you got to see one that is in perfect shape since most Chinese guns are usually found in very poor conditions.
@matthewblackwood47049 ай бұрын
Would that be the same place as my factory 26 sks?
@NJPurling8 ай бұрын
Does the type 50 have the same issues with fit n finish of the magazines? You ran into that trouble with the PPSH.
@DevinMoorhead9 ай бұрын
Frick yeah early gang reporting for duty
@jamesallred4609 ай бұрын
Oh no! I'm late reporting for the early gang. Dammit!!
@JimmySaint439 ай бұрын
Salute!
@andyroberts43879 ай бұрын
🏅🍪
@trungbao84529 ай бұрын
Finally! ❤🎉
@minuteofcan9 ай бұрын
One of the best sub guns of the old world!
@JerryEricsson9 ай бұрын
weren't these the guns that the GI's called the "burp" gun?
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
Yep.
@distalradius81469 ай бұрын
Receiver looks like it was formed around a mandrel with a ball peen hammer. We found an old one a while back that had been utilizing a wine cork buffer.
@brokenursa99869 ай бұрын
This seems to be part of a common trend of the Chinese taking Soviet and Russian designs and just making them better.
@DPRK_Best_Korea9 ай бұрын
Debatable. They make certain tradeoffs to suit their needs and manufacturing abilities. There is no significant difference in the quality between Soviet or Communist Chinese weapons when comparing them in peace time.
@tonykriss15949 ай бұрын
@@DPRK_Best_Korea After Soviet became Russia, now that's a different story.
@TheHylianBatman9 ай бұрын
I've always liked these things.
@xzqzq8 ай бұрын
KISS, in an excellent caliber.
@molotulo88089 ай бұрын
My character has one in "Vigor"... great gun. Video games are more fun when you have a gun!
@shatterquartz9 ай бұрын
Ian automatically gets a bonus for pronouncing Beijing correctly. You'd be amazed how many people online somehow think it's "Beizhing".
@garfieldh.88209 ай бұрын
That balances out his mispronunciation of Bei'an (it's pronounced "bay-ann", for the record)
@mark-wn5ek9 ай бұрын
And Pedderson for Pederson.
@MUCKLEECH9 ай бұрын
It always surprises me to see how rough soviet small arms look. I understand that they function fine, but they had little to no pride taken in the finishing process. On that note, I would love to have seen what the Swiss would have done with this design
@minisforerbody9 ай бұрын
For some reason I heard “blog” as “podcast” and got really excited at something that esoteric to listen to 😩 suffice it to say I was most disappointed 😂
@bulukacarlos47519 ай бұрын
Was that used during the Vietnam wars (vs France and vs USA)? Greetings from Patagonia Argentina
@PhilipStraatsma9 ай бұрын
I always just assumed that the Soviets shared their patterns with the Chinese. Interesting to learn that they “found a copy of the plans” or reverse engineered the design.
@somebrains54319 ай бұрын
My first thought was all the $300 56s that came with a case of ammo in the 80s to 90 or 91.
@Robert68897 ай бұрын
Why didn't they think to install a movable grip on the PPSh during World War II? Why was there such an inconvenient way of holding the weapon by the drum?
@chinesesparrows9 ай бұрын
So ppsh temu version is surprisingly ok
@AdamWest849 ай бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@Joeph_R_Silva9 ай бұрын
Michael Caine is quoted when on night patrol they would hear the Chi Coms cocking their SMGs because the safeties where not reliable. True?
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
There is no manual safety on these...
@1rcp9 ай бұрын
ejector ports are also different...
@toyboxgoblin4 ай бұрын
626 is stitches number from lilo and stitch
@panzerabwerkanone9 ай бұрын
How much you wanna bet the Chauchat LMGs in the background found their way into Ian's luggage
@ianray88239 ай бұрын
This pleases my firearmtism
@stevethepesantpunter9 ай бұрын
The bane of David Hackworth
@christineshotton8249 ай бұрын
"Significant emotional event" I see what you did there. 😁
@parrotraiser65419 ай бұрын
Technically, I think the Nationalists went to Fomosa; i5 becaee Tàiwan later.
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
True.
@hallytron9 ай бұрын
Lets be real, nobody except Ian recognizes the 626 haha
@Jesses0019 ай бұрын
I find that it is common for the Chinese to make even better versions of Russian designs then the Russians. That follows true for many other designs, including AKs, SKS, and the TT-33.
@curiousgeorge46089 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know how it made it to the US.
@ForgottenWeapons9 ай бұрын
I didn't look, but I would guess Korean War vet bringback.
@Hosenfuhrer9 ай бұрын
"A significant emotional event" I see what you did there
@tombats64289 ай бұрын
The shpagin machine pistol is phonetically abbreviated as Peh, Peh, Sha. Pistolet, pulemet, Shpagina.
@-Zevin-9 ай бұрын
I never drew the connection to the Mukden arsenal thanks for that. I have some old Arisaka bayonets stamped from Mukden. Although comparing the Japanese invasion of Manchuria to the Russian annexation of Crimea is a bit disingenuous.
@causewaykayak9 ай бұрын
In respect of your Ukraine comment, quite right. Thanks !
@afwae3wefazsggeawg9 ай бұрын
so is the "evacuation to Taiwan", the KMT were quite literally colonizers all the same, and so brutal that some considered them worse than the Japanese had been!
@causewaykayak9 ай бұрын
@@afwae3wefazsggeawg Good Point. The Reds didn't appear out of nowhere. They were a reaction to circumstances not all of Japanese origins. However the KMT were America's favourite and still are expected to spearhead the "crusade" against Marxist inspired movements. Thank for speaking out on this .
@-Zevin-9 ай бұрын
@@afwae3wefazsggeawg This is actually really important too, I'm actually impressed that people know this and are pointing it out kudos to you.
@jerrydickerson11119 ай бұрын
Nice burp gun
@slimygrimy-l7m2 ай бұрын
NVA with stg44 in Nam, mg42 in Korea ect
@blank5579 ай бұрын
The 1968 sci-fi movie, "The Bamboo Saucer" had some of characters shooting PPsh 50's with box magazines. I bet they were Korean war bring backs, because I doubt they came from the USSR.
@murkypuddle339 ай бұрын
you workin out Ian? I can tell man, keep it up
@saytaylor36039 ай бұрын
Not sure if the body is amazingly thin or if the magazines just ludicrously long. Probably both.
@russbilzing53489 ай бұрын
Here we have the Chinese rendition of the famed Russian "bullet hose". For sheer speed of magazine emptying, not even the Thompson SMG could hold a candle to this bugger. The Czech Skporpion might equal it but I just don't know.
@marvindebot32649 ай бұрын
Can confirm, Škorpion is fast on the mag dump, yes. I carried one as a PDW in Africa and have a lot of love for them.
@russbilzing53489 ай бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 Thanx for the info!
@uncleheavy68199 ай бұрын
Ian has been spending time around Nick Moran. Lol
@1nown9 ай бұрын
Now, if you think that's interesting, wait until Gun Jesus finds out about the captured m14s/m14 copies that were smuggled into the Philippines by the PRC during the Cold War (eg; the MV Karagatan incident) - before the norinco m305