Turkish Model 1903/30 Short Rifle with Folding Bayonet

[@anglachelm1210]

Turkish officer here! I have overseen a lot of ancient mausers being distributed to the village guards or at least was present when they are being discarded/repurposed but this is not one of them. THAT is a weapon I haven't seen and must be very rare. One thing to mention is that the yellowing in the metallic parts and the rear bolt assembly is caused by rust resistant cosmoline wax. And that cosmoline has to stay on the gun for DECADES to have such a potent discolouring effect. I have personally seen M98 rifles were never waxed in that fashion for 70 straight years. Probably because they were always in use some way or the other. At first in the frontlines, then in rear echelons, then in military shools with worn barrels and they would finally be shelved for last resort rifles/militia. Decades of cosmoline is a somewhat polar opposite of that approach. They must have either forgotten them somewhere because these crates were not more than 200 specimens, so they became forgotten like the Ark of Covenant in an Indiana Jones movie , or even more interestingly they were retired from frontline around 1952/55 with NATO with the cavalry branch. Turkish army until that point had always been cavalry centric so perhaps they couldn't retire these as fast as NATO wanted them to. My 2 cents.

[@nodachi8165]

Selam komutanım, ekşiden, twitterden okuyoruz komutanım, baya bir şey öğrenmiş oldum sayenizde.

[@crazyprof5349]

Abim bu ne ingilizce be. helal olsun

[@ruhhastasemeklialbay910]

Şurda Türkleri görmek güzel

[@birgaripadam7112]

Sa olun komutanım bizi bilgilendirdiğiniz için

[@boryolmung9548]

@@crazyprof5349 İt not that hard.

[@davidkohler7454]

Small variants on relatively inexpensive old rifles is what got me started in collecting..when I was younger I didn't have the extra money to buy more in demand weapons. But for $150 bucks I could go to pawn shops or gun shows and bring home a new to me weapon. That made me happy and my collection grew and grew.. most of them have doubled in value.so it's an investment also.. now I'm older and have the money to buy 3 and 4 thousand dollar specimens . But they will Never hold the memories and that proud feeling of being frugal and wheeling and dealing for all the ones that I've held on to for so long.The feel and smell of a been there done that weapon is priceless..

[@TonyNewJersey1]

Amen to that!

[@matthewspencer5086]

Ian: "I must do a series on Turkish Mausers." Me: "Might there be a book in that?"

[@thesturm8686]

"From Mauser to Mauser : The Great Turkish Collection"

[@matthewspencer5086]

@@thesturm8686 He'll also have to cover the Lee Enfields which Turkish gunsmiths assimilated into the Mauser Collective...

[@janwacawik7432]

@@matthewspencer5086 The famous Enfausers.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@janwacawik7432 I think you mean "infamous Enfausers"

[@ScottKenny1978]

@TiglathPileser3 we could only be so lucky!!!

[@rotwang2000]

This reminds me to kick myself that I ignored a batch of then very nicely priced Persian Mausers that are now changing hands for a king's ransom or three.

[@angelsfallfirst7348]

I was going to by one last year and chickened out at the last minute. Saving up for an H&K sp5 on my college freshman budget.

[@6thmichcav262]

You can say that again. I paid $200 for one and later sold it at cost. Ouch.

[@serhanb.1485]

Just a small correction! AS FA means "Askeri Fabrikalar" (lit. Military Factories). Conversions were carried out by Çelik ve Kimya Endüstrisi (Steel and Chemistry Industries) but parliament decided to stamp AS FA for simplicity instead. Loves from Turkey, keep up the good work. I'd be personally more than happy to see Greek Mannlicher rifles, those are really cool!

[@SwitchAndLever]

Just one little correction, they do not have numbers in Turkish, as the state of Turkey adopted the latin alphabet (with some help from Swedish linguists, but that's another story) shortly after the fall of the remnants of the Ottoman empire. What they are though is Ottoman script, which is very similar to Arabic script. In fact, the Ottoman script borrowed the numerals directly from Eastern Arabic script.

[@DonMeaker]

Arabic script is actually borrowed from Aramaic.

[@SwitchAndLever]

@@DonMeaker well yeah, we could trace it back even further than that, but what's the point? We are talking about developments which happened in the last 100 years, and with languages that are very much still alive and used, as opposed to Aramaic which is almost entirely dead.

[@RETmehh]

@@DonMeaker maybe arabic came from aramaic? XD

[@RETmehh]

that situation is a little bit complicated. that story starts in the 19th century actually. what is the Swedish linguist part?

[@DonMeaker]

@@SwitchAndLever Almost. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2aTopyJYq6dgK8

[@kespec]

Turks have a hard-on for german weapons, they later adopted and license prodouced g3-hk33s, now they are making their own modified version of HK 416, 417

[@TheWolfsnack]

...you cannot conduct a decent genocide without German weapons.....

[@netenes1]

@@TheWolfsnack What is wrong with you?

[@clothar23]

@@TheWolfsnack Plenty of Southeast Asian Dictators would care to disagree with you. They got by fine with their Soviet knock offs.

[@TheWolfsnack]

@@netenes1 ...what was wrong with the Armenians?

[@kespec]

@@TheWolfsnack let's see, conspiring with the russians they rebelled against ottomans, they raided and pillaged every single village in south east, they killed more civilians than any other allied forces combined. It wasn't a genocide it was self defense. cry somewhere else

[@TreacherousFennec]

my great grandfather has 6 pictures from the war, in all of but one of them, he holds a kar98az he had from the german aid when he was sent to eastern front to help austro-hungary till germans arrived, he got to keep that rifle after the liberation war and i still have it. in one of the pictures however, he holds what i think of something similar to this rifle, but bayonet was broken from the middle, and was folded and taped to the gun with a narrow piece of cloth. so much stories, untold.

[@OsX86H3AvY]

Hey man - If you recall YEARS ago i think it was Century Int'l had a TON of these (one of the Turkish versions) of large ring 98-style for sale for like $20 each and my father bought like ten of them for sale and various projects. I was around 12 or 13 then and built up my FIRST Mauser from one of these in .308, bent the bolt down, Timney trigger, modifed safety, added target sights (always wanted but never got around to real optics), etc. and still have that thing today at my father's house. I SAY my father's house because since then I met, married, and divorced a Turkish woman and I NOW live in Istanbul (had to leave my firearms home, of course). I've been here since around the year of the (most recent) coup but have missed being able to just walk out back and shoot and so I've been checking out your videos a bunch. Thanks by the way and I would LOVE it if you COULD do a series on Turkce Mausers, I think that'd be kickass. P.S. those ones that we had were WEIRD in that they were large ring outer diameter but SMALL RING inner diameter like the older '96 Mausers so while I had bought a blank for a LR '98 back then we had to re-cut the threads for a small ring (at 13 I had help of course). Luckily the base of the large ring thread was basically the crest of the SR thread so it worked out, but that was the only time that we had seen ones like that from what I recall. You brought back a great memory of my time back at home! Anywys thanks for your content and HELLO from the Turkish Republic!!!

[@Lomi311]

I just happen to be on an Ottoman Mauser in C&Rsenal’s primer playlist and now I have extra Ottoman Mausers! What a day!

[@Hybris51129]

A Mauser a day keeps the factory open another day.

[@charles_wipman]

Look in really good condition.

[@bl4cksp1d3r]

Ian is always in good condition ;D

[@bluudlung]

Bl4ckSp1d3r gun jesus is immaculate

[@spacetrainbaby3737]

Looks*

[@honkhonkler7732]

Yup. Most Turk Mausers were ran rather hard. This one is nicer than usual for sure.

[@shawnr771]

Nice rifle. Not a fan of the folding bayonet. Pointed end sticking back into your support hand might lead to some interesting injuries.

[@bikecommuter24]

I imagine you only do it once, I was thinking the same thing.

[@shawnr771]

@@bikecommuter24 At least in training. Out on the battlefield moving around might be a different story.

[@bikecommuter24]

@@shawnr771 that might be true hopefully they had sturdy gloves although that point looks like it would go through leather.

[@johnkelinske1449]

Most of the time your hand will be behind the sling swivel and with the sling on, it won't go anywhere near the point. Most of the bayonets I have or have seen aren't real sharp anyway, nor were they intended to be.

[@SteveSmith-wm4qy]

bayonets aren't that sharp. It's the same way on an SKS or type 56 ak

[@e.bocanegra1482]

I know that nobogy would care, but im very happy, some years ago i lost the all bolt accion piece of a k98 Mauser i put it aoart for some reason, and i gave that for lost, until i found the bolt piece today, i will get a bayonet fot it latter. Greatings

[@michaelmclaughlin4889]

You definitely need to do more on Turkish Mausers especially the M38s

[@F1ghteR41]

7:18 It's entirely reasonable. You don't need to fend off cavalry charges post-WW1, and, to quote Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatoria, 'six inches of penetration is enough, and we don't want overpenetration'.

[@joekahno]

Never had bayonet training myself but all the old training films I've seen stress controlling the penetration. When the fight devolves to that level getting your weapon trapped in one opponent may well be your last mistake.

[@tarjei99]

Actually, the last cavalry charges took place in WW2.

[@itsapittie]

@@tarjei99 That's true, but I don't think anyone seriously expected to stop them with bayonets as they did in WWI. Also, they weren't a common enough threat for a major army to consider them when designing/adopting bayonets.

[@F1ghteR41]

@@tarjei99 They did, yeah, but in fact it was much different from what we're discussing here. Italians, for example, used large amounts of SMGs and grenades during their last mounted charges in the summer of '42 (and that resulted still in huge casualties on their part).

[@johnkelinske1449]

@@joekahno When you are down to the level of fighting with a bayonet, that is usually your last mistake.

[@stone9302]

I have a 1893/35 Turkish Mauser. I really hope he does a series on Turkish Mausers, as they can be awesome rifles. They just usually need a lot of extra love and care when you first get them.

[@jacobcox1914]

The first gun I ever purchased was an M38 Turkish Mauser in 8mm. Complete with bayonet and cleaning rod. She has one of the best triggers I’ve ever experienced. So please, do a series on the Turkish guns, I would be so grateful!

[@rjan9572]

This is very close to a to an old Turkish rifle I've been trying to identify in my father's collection. The biggest physical differences I notice is that ours is longer, has an internal magazine that extends out the bottom, and there is a round hole in the stock instead of a rectangular one. From what I can tell ours is a Turkish Gew 88 1930's conversion commision rifle. Love to see one on your channel and learn more about it!

[@bryangrote8781]

You aren't joking when you say the Turks had a huge mishmash of various Mausers and updated versions. Dad has a Turkish Mauser that I wondered about for many years because it seemed to be so unique. Full length 30" barrel in 7.92mm with 1930s Turkish proof marks... ...but built on a Gewehr EIGHTY-EIGHT action! Looks like nothing I've seen elsewhere even compared to other Turk rifles I've seen. I thought for years it was probably a rebuild made with random surplus parts as this pattern did not appear in any military reference books we have, but finally found a reference to this gun recently after a lot of net searches so is in fact a legit Turkish pattern rifle. These old guns have some amazing history and longevity. 140yr old gun that was in service with Ottomans for about 70 of those years.

[@bryangrote8781]

@@sinisterthoughts2896 Lol, you're right. Why is it hard to add backwards in time?

[@patchmoulton5438]

You know life is hard when your gun needs a switchblade

[@Lrr_Of_Omikron]

Whenever I hear Ottoman Empire I always imagine a country with a crap ton of La-Z-boys everywhere. Yea I didn't do so good at school...

[@Lrr_Of_Omikron]

@@sinisterthoughts2896 thank you. Is it cynical that comments like yours really make my day?

[@kmech3rd]

Reminds me of the Ottoman Empress from The Tick cartoon!

[@Lrr_Of_Omikron]

@@kmech3rd now theres a show I haven't thought of in forever. My man thanks for helping me figure out what I'll be doing the rest of the day.

[@kmech3rd]

@@Lrr_Of_Omikron SPOOOOON!

[@lorenkinderman3019]

I would absolutely love to see that video on all the Turkish mauser variations!

[@maverick9708]

That phone comparison for Turkish Mauser purchasing patterns was hilarious 😂 Ian sure knows how to put a smile on my face.

[@youtubedislikebutton6031]

Just been bingeing forgotten weapons videoed for the past week

[@scottycheesecake]

As Korean War would attest, we Turkish really enjoy our bayonets.

[@TRPilot06YT]

Stabby stab stab

[@h4ze531]

Turkish Countercharges with Bayonets in Korea was Legendary

[@girthbrooks39]

You Turks.

[@comiketiger]

Thank you Ian. Another interesting gun!

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian .

[@diggerdanh]

Yes please on the Turkish Mauser series!

[@WhattAreYouSaying]

Great video! It would be amazing if you could make a video about the Turkish "M38" Mauser. Specially the "Ankara K.Kale" rifles. Many people have this type of Mauser, but there is really not much information about them online, or anywhere. They are really interesting and somewhat "mysterious" rifles.

[@gabrielcarkhuff2670]

I love the term short rifle. Especially when you look at modern firearms that are naturally short, and look at these "short rifles" and your amazed and boggled. These rifles be long as hell.

[@rabbit_herder_420]

I cant wait for that video on the progression of Turkish mausers

[@chinesesparrows]

"short" rifles lol. Wonder what theyd think if they saw modern SBRs and rifle caliber pistols

[@comradecosmonaut7746]

They'd think its retarded because these "rifle caliber pistols " only work because the "rifle" cartridge they fire isn't a fullpower one and thats the only kind they know.

[@chinesesparrows]

Yeah i know, but it just shows how firearms have gotten more compact

[@wlewisiii]

They'd laugh at them because they're worthless. Only mall ninjas want them.

[@wraithwyvern528]

They'd see the flash and muzzle blast of an SBR 5.56 and wonder how you can fire together in formation.

[@shrais]

@Sniper It was an American unit based in the Philippines

[@yphades1]

One of the finest collections of weapons in the world, the museum was made inside an ancient fortress in Switzerland. best regards from Switzerland

[@northernbrother417]

My father gave me a turkish Mauser with a straight bolt handle and says Ankara like this one. He said my mom bought it at a garage sale for 25 bucks in the early 90s

[@rileye9599]

I was really hoping for a switchblade bayonet when I saw that thing

[@cheeseburgerwalrus5538]

my first rifle was one of these conversions and i bought it for 100 , wish i still had it

[@gordslater]

Plot twist: Turkish numerals are Arabic, Arabic numbers are Western, Western numbers are Hindu-Arabic, all are read from left to right. The answer is always 42

[@YamacKocovali7]

Arabic numbers are Western? Wot?

[@hachikiina]

ottomanium

[@MrAla6]

@@YamacKocovali7 You will be surprised but yes. "old turkish numerals" are just plain Arabic (now called Eastern Arabic). What is commonly known as "Arabic" is Western Arabic. I would call it Arabic inspired numeral system :-D. More or less only numbers we share with original Arabic are 1 and 9.

[@RETmehh]

if it marked after 1st nov 1928, it cant be arabic numbers. there is a law about that you cant use old numbers and alphabet on state own materials

[@MrAla6]

@@RETmehh It explain why there is new "46" serial when they converted it after date you mentioned. Probably it has been in their armoury before that date.

[@jeffreyplum5259]

The bayonet may have been more effive than you imagine. Seen as something sharp a prisoner would be easily controlled by such a weapon. It might not do for heavy fighting, but for crown control or less lethal functions, it would do.

[@schutztruppe]

so there are some in the US that don't come with that bayonet ?? because there is one for sale at PROXIBID under "TURKISH MAUSER M1903 RIFLE"

[@Phapchamp]

Little gun fact (I made a word play there): There are old Turkish songs about the great war which even talks about mauser (In the songs its often called "mavzer").

[@TheFanatical1]

Price increased by 1000% based on this video

[@honkhonkler7732]

Looks almost exactly like mine except for that cute little bayonet. Got it for $99 at a rural pawn shop a few years ago.

[@echoeron]

AS FA Stands for Askeri (military) Fabrika (factory)

[@rdb8509]

That little bayonet guy is every bit of 8”. Ahemm, yeah.

[@bbqsauce8854]

The bayonet probably only locks backwards with one lug for ease of release, it could get snagged between two when trying to rapidly deploy.

[@89simba57]

Very informative

[@devocarpeghost]

such a great video and I love my Turkish Mauser

[@oliverlamie3449]

Interesting this didn't get a stock disc, my Turkish Gewehr 88/05/35 has one, and it's not even a true Mauser like this.

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

Fun trivia: the "Turkish serial numbers" are in fact the actual Arabic numerals as opposed to "the Arabic numerals", one could call them the "Arabic Arabic numerals" if he were to disregard the fact that these (the ones at 4:53) are the original Arabic numerals. The reason you call 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Arabic numerals is that it was the Arabs that invented the system (some attribute it to an indian astronomer) where digits are notated with unique characters and numbers are positionally notated unlike the Roman system. The "transliteration" of what you see at 4:53 is 4774. Transliteration is actually not the right word to use here since these are not letters but numbers so I should have gone with something like "transdigitation" LOL. Directionality is kind of messy here. The Arabic script is dextrosinistral (dexter=right, sinister=left) but numbers are sinistrodextral (fun, right?) so the directionality of our numbers has nothing to do with the directionality of our scripts. From now on when someone mentions "arabic numbers" you will always remember that they are not the actual arabic numbers but mere translations of sorts. Tell them about this, their minds will be blown too.

[@maxwellfairfield888]

We want the Mauser lineage. Please make it happen!

[@itskyleee2081]

So because it's a 1903 conversion rifle, what bolt(s) would work for this rifle? A K98, turk 38, or only the 1903?

[@BIoomingOnion]

I would really like a Turkish Mauser series, and I'm sure a lot of other people would too.

[@somersethuscarl2938]

Full back story of Turkish Mausers? Oh yes please

[@Vares65]

Interesting as always!

[@Bubba-Fudd-bulletsmith]

I have a 1948 dated Turk mauser. Does that mean it was converted to 8mm in 1948

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Well, maybe. The date indicates conversions done to meet the Turkish standard of 1938/46. It would be a short rifle & done at Ankara and K Kale.

[@Tranzeis]

As it pronounced in modern Turkish: MAVZER

[@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming]

I would imagine that they tried this bayonet design as a way of enabling cavalry to be able to fix bayonets without having something loose that they could drop, if it was any longer they'd probably risk accidentally stabbing themselves or the horse if they tried to manipulate it on horseback

[@F1ghteR41]

This goes back to a time when cavalrymen were carrying sabres on their side, hence placing a scabbard for a bayonet (which would only be used on foot) would be inconvinient. I think this was the case with Italian and Japanese cavalry carbines being fitted that way. However, about 1930's most armies have converted to carrying swords attached to the saddle, but I'm not sure about Turkish cavalry specifically. PS Am I indeed talking to Anthony G Williams, the author of many articles and a famous website?

[@allangibson8494]

Some, like the French, actually had sabres with bayonet attachments so you could attach your sabre to your rifle...

[@BaronSamedi1959]

A short rifle and a short bayonet: you can't even reach down to the infantryman you are charging. You better just hope that your horse bowls him over.

[@F1ghteR41]

@@allangibson8494 It was a short-lived practice, as Ian has detailed in one of his videos, and not successful in the slightest.

[@F1ghteR41]

@@BaronSamedi1959 Using a rifle with a bayonet as a sort of spear from horseback is a desperate measure, in all fairness. Back when Italians and Japanese were desigining and issuing their folding bayonet carbines, there was a general trend among non-Anglo-Saxon nations to equip their cavalry with lances for charging the infantry in a most effective manner. After WW1 you would either follow this trend (Poles would be your primary example) or rely on dismounted fire for the most part, saving sabres for charging on entirely disorganised enemy troops or protesting crowds.

[@mert-xq4yo]

Can you make a video about new turkish rifles like MPT? i would like an objective analysis about those

[@nolanolivier6791]

MAC has covered them; I believe he actually travelled to Turkey for his review

[@mert-xq4yo]

@@nolanolivier6791 Yes, i saw that one. i cannot really say why, maybe bc they were hosted really well there or there may be some ad involved, but i feel like if the review coming from abroad would be a bit more objective

[@nolanolivier6791]

@@mert-xq4yo you may be on to something there...

[@corybaaron]

What is the build quality and craftsman of the Turkish Mauser? I hear all kinds of things.

[@jeffapplewhite5981]

Lived in Ankara for 2 years, 74,75.

[@hullza5632]

Can't seem to find it if you already have, but if you haven't. Would you consider doing a video on the Remington new model army conversion model, as in the from the factory .45lc new model army. Not the conversion cylinders. Great work nonetheless! 😁

[@alexdemoya2119]

last time i was this early it was still the ottoman empire

[@SoloHime]

@Marc Thomas whatdefok

[@PhoenixFyre]

Ahh the cell phone analogy.

[@cihangirmarsan5533]

Thanks Ian. I am looking forward for the Turkish/Ottoman Mauser story. It shall be a 19 century history of a nation and the Middle East.

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

Five inches of steel stuck in your enemy is just as lethal as twelve.

[@hakjobtm7472]

got my Ottoman mauser in 8mm at a cabela's for $260, there was still cosmoline down the barrel!

[@defectiveturret4391]

Mauser prices differ from 3 to 8 grand here in Turkey. Damn did that thing aged well.

[@hakjobtm7472]

@@defectiveturret4391 they're really undervalued here for some reason, it was on the same rack as two incredibly beat-up german gewehr 98s that were both over $700

[@TJ-wg3ud]

Damn Ian, I love your videos but it seems like every old rifle you show triples in price immediately after your video posts. Well I guess if it wasn’t for you I probably wouldn’t get to see so many of these cool rifles.

[@flipeverything2734]

I just got a Turkish Mauser last month. Unfortunately it has a huge crack in the stock and a weak firing pin spring. It’s a great project though.

[@brent0935]

You can get new wood and springs online for pretty cheap. I think I have a 30# spring in mine cause the one it came with was weak

[@giggs9848]

I have a 1940 Pattern Turkish Mauser and I have been trying to find a bayonet for the whole time I have had it. Anyone know what bayonet it takes?

[@Bubba-Fudd-bulletsmith]

I have 2 of them they look like a standard mauser bayonet with a barrel ring

[@willros6128]

Carrying that over your back must of been fun with that bayonet hanging out and sticking you somewhere in your body. What killed him ? Oh , his own bayonet.

[@LetsPlayThomme]

I have a good question for your Q&A: I'm not sure if you'll see it since I can't afford your patreon, but I was wondering what your least favorite videogame depiction of a gun is.

[@yukupovaccinated4]

Unique bayonet

[@ericlai1659]

I don’t know there is some Mauser variant made in Turkey

[@troy9477]

Yes, very interesting. Is the 7.65 the same cartridge as the Argentine? I can't remember off the top of my head. The variations of Mausers are almost endless, and it looks like the Turks accounted for more than their share. Great video as always. Thank you

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

The answer is yes, it is the same basic round as the Argentine and the Belgian 7.65.

[@kevinclaxon2934]

Ian, is there a possibility to get ahold of and do a video on a M39 Mosin? I have tried doing some basic research and haven't gotten far...

[@rootbeerpoptart]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ame9gWyOfZ2VkNU

[@beast0339]

320 views huh? this is the earliest I've ever viewed a Forgotten Weapons video... Broken analytics aside, this is a really fascinating pattern of Mauser

[@notyermama1597]

Man this is the best thing to go with breakfast ever!

[@JaredHardy001]

Good morning people

[@Javic167]

Ians next book: Mauser to Slingshot - The development of Turkish firearms.

[@nharperspark5]

I absolutely agree. That'd be a great book and is a topic that doesn't seem to have much in the way of published resources.

[@JustanOlGuy]

I enjoy the history, collectability not important...

[@VashGames]

The parable of the Turkish rifles.

[@dooleysstill2616]

Please tell me that the arsenal museum is not selling stuff.

[@PhoenixFyre]

Reminds me of the M-44 mosin, not a ideal length for that cartridge.

[@Bloodreign137]

Please do!! My first mil surp is a Turkish Mauser and id looooove to know more

[@Hooner72]

Over 7,000 views in less than 45 minutes. I thought it was just me.

[@mysss29]

Patreon

[@raphlvlogs271]

it was short 4 the standards back then, but not short 4 today's standards.

[@Femerenden]

Ian a note regarding the markings on this particular rifle. The non-modern/western (eg. 1,2,3, etc.) or "Arabic numerals" are not Turkish, they are actually Arabic. Those arabic numerals are where the western arabic numerals comes from. Arabic and Ottoman Turkish use the same numerals and just shortening Ottoman Turkish to simply Turkish is a little wierd considering we have a modern language called Turkish as well. Just a heads up.

[@Femerenden]

@@reece9746 in 1928 the newly formed Turkish Republic adopted a new alphabet and language. They discarded arabic letters for latin ones and thus they started speaking a different language of sorts.

[@SwitchAndLever]

@@reece9746 there is a difference between written language and spoken language. While even modern day Turkish has a lot of influence from Arabic, many words have both a Turkish word and an Arabic word for it (like "black" can be both "kara" and "siyah" for instance). There are also A LOT of minority languages in Turkey, some being Turkic languages, some not. While the spoken language didn't change from one day to the next, when the latin alphabet became the norm over the Ottoman script one can very well argue that it started a process away from Ottoman Turkish towards modern Turkish.

[@SwitchAndLever]

@@Femerenden tesekkurler ederim Canalp! I just made a comment about this as well. It's a bit of a pet peeve when people automatically treat Ottoman Turkey the same as Türkiye Cumhuriyeti 🙂 You literally fought a war of liberation for it not to be that way!

[@somersethuscarl2938]

@@Femerenden I had no idea about this either until about ten years ago when I asked a Turkish friend to help translate something for me from a document from the 1880's. I was rather red faced when he explained, but did send it on to his sister at Muğla Üniversitesi who very kindly helped me out.

[@Gojiro7]

Does there exist a switch blade style Bayonet? possibly one built into the rifle its self?

[@sheriefelsayad5578]

@4:46 The serial number isn't actually in Turkish, those are numerals written in Arabic. But cool video!

[@chrisstack849]

Ha. Don't tea cup that one, bayonet folded. I still want it.

[@chrisstack849]

@@sinisterthoughts2896 makes sense, thanks

[@MARKINAU8]

Changing calibre just like upgrading charging port from mini usb to type c, which is a marketing scam

[@htral]

The next book - The Turkish Mauser

[@pops55650]

Some cracks in that stock. Better replace it with one of those polymer scout rifle stocks. Cerkote it in desert camo🤠

[@rogainegaming6924]

Ian go to bed it is 6 AM in arizona

[@Pablo-xy3lo]

Gun Jesus never sleeps

[@matthewspencer5086]

This being a channel viewed around the world, Ian, or Ian's computer, is probably working on Greenwich Mean Time. Tideline Art, however, uploads from Greenwich around Sunday tea time most weeks.

[@bbninc287]

At 4:51 I think you wanted to say Turkey converted to Latin alphabet and numbers "from" Arabic letters and numbers. Great video.

[@hyperfocal2002]

Arabic numbers are the conventional 0 through 9 we use every day.

[@reece9746]

Latin numerals: I,II,III,IV,V Arabic numerals: 1,2,3,4,5

[@somersethuscarl2938]

Western numbers are called Arabic from our conversion of the numbers from those used in the Levant during the Medeval period. Those numbers in the Levant were called Hindu numbers from their conversion from Indian Numbers. They were invented between the 1st and 4th centuries by Indian mathematicians. The system was adopted in Arabic mathematics by the 9th century. Influential in their spread were the books of Al-Khwārizmī (On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals, c. 825) and Al-Kindi (On the Use of the Hindu Numerals, c. 830). The system later spread to medieval Europe. Latin or Roman numbers were letter based and not decimal as they did not contain a zero.

[@logancio]

Loving yours videos but just for kicks, actually, the older numbers are not Turkish but "Eastern Arabic" numerals, the usual numerals are called "Western Arabic" :)

[@deanhankio6304]

at that time, there is no difference between short and long shoot. It's big, it's long. And there is no foldable stock. Wood is now plastic. A that time you can shoot at 600 m/y. Nowadays it's half that distance. Progress you said ?

[@deanhankio6304]

@@sinisterthoughts2896 Carrying more ammo = true Not seeing at 600 without a scope is possible. Max is 800m, for people with good eyes

[@schana96]

I'm sorry, but did you say the numbers they have at RIA are "Forty Six & 2"?

[@shawnr771]

46 and 42 I think.

[@schana96]

@@shawnr771 No.. I ... Just google "Forty Six & 2" or search it on KZbin

[@matejmatej3554]

We love you Ian aka gun Jesus stay awesome and stay healthy greetings from sLOVEnia east europe

[@0570965]

Put different iron sights on it and remove the bayonet, I'd take it! make a good hunting rifle good luck getting it back