LugerMan Reproduction of the 1907 .45 Test Trials Luger

Eugene Golubtsov, aka LugerMan, is manufacturing reproduction .45ACP caliber Luger pistols, based on the original blueprints of the 1907 pattern US Army trials guns. When he offered to send me one to try out, how could I say no?
I have had some rather unimpressive experiences trying to shoot similar reproductions made by other people, and my expectations for this one were pretty low. Well, I have no problem saying that I was entirely wrong. This pistol is magnificent - it ran great, shot dead on point of aim, and was everything I could have asked, right down to the correct 55.5 degree grip angle found only on the US trials Lugers.
In addition to the trials pattern, Eugene is also making a wide variety of other patterns, include .45ACP "baby" Lugers, long barreled target models, stocked carbines, 10mm Auto versions, and more. They are not cheap, but in my opinion they are worth the cost if you can afford them.
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[@Taistelukalkkuna]

"And Lo, by the Third Magazine, Gun Jesus Sayeth "Dang" and Was Suitably Impressed."

[@karbonpanzer]

Taistelukalkkuna amen

[@waylongroves200]

...and Amen

[@crushedcranium]

Thy sayeth amen

[@gkarjala]

Heiluheiset pallot? Cool name

[@truckerallikatuk]

Amen? Nay! It is the holy word Ammo that shall be said in response.

[@theJellyjoker]

"I think we've heard enough about this..." You thought wrong!

[@Tunkkis]

Looks like even the patron saint of firearms can be mistaken.

[@CigarAttache]

We need the directors cut of this video 😏👍🏼

[@Pdro-gw7lu]

Ian, just as others in the comments have said. Please do go on, we’d all love to hear what you cut yourself off from saying about manufacturing and reverse engineering. Time permitting please do make such a vid. Awesome Luger btw. Cheers

[@josuelservin2409]

P3dro 2486, Totally agree on this point.

[@alexandruianu8432]

He's already pointed those things out in a number of videos on his channel (other Luger videos and the HMG StG streams).

[@genericpersonx333]

Yeah, I have dealt with reverse-engineering projects before and to be honest, it is just too big a subject to have as a tangent within another video. He was right to cut it off there to save camera time for himself. For sure, it is worthy of a special video of its own. The MG3, for example, is a legitimate forgotten weapon because all the technical details for the manufacturing of the MG42 were lost between 1945 and 1965. To resurrect that gun required one of the most demanding reverse-engineering efforts of the 20th century and would make an excellent example of how complicated RE is.

[@rageagainstthehygiene2357]

If I just wanted to skip to the shooting I would watch any of the other 50 YTers who just take stuff to the range. I come to FW because it is in-depth information from a guy who really knows what he is talking about. Anyone can shoot them, but Ian can *explain* them.

[@LovableCoolGuy]

The topic was pretty thoroughly covered on the InRange videos interviewing HMG. Check out this one and others regarding the StG reproduction: watch?v=iQxwVY7ziKs

[@TheRogueWolf]

LugerMan! He came from the stars to use the power of the Luger to make Gun Jesus say "Dang"!

[@randomuser778]

You're an imbecile.

[@zacharyreichert5035]

That got a laugh.

[@hippymad1]

Lugerman Fighter of the Borchardtman Champion of the Krauts. Master of Karate And Friendship for everyone

[@JonManProductions]

No U

[@mexanik9]

U made me laugh, thanks ))

[@Pitchlock8251]

A Luger in 10mm. I think I can hear MAC furiously clicking "place order" icon over the internet.

[@LugerMan45]

Pitch Lock I did not hear anything....... want a 10mm ? Just let me know

[@williamhorton9763]

.41 Action Express.

[@raptorcell6633]

Fuck it, now i want a Luger in .50 AE

[@justinreiley747]

@@raptorcell6633 now I want a .22 long rifle Luger

[@donovanchilton5817]

You hear that? That sound like a fly rubbing it's wings together in the distance? That's Tim. Furiously masturbating.

[@Chevypotamus]

That's an impressive gun, still working flawlessly after 8,000 rounds.

[@aker1993]

its amazing that the gun is still purrfect and running even in the 8k+ rounds of shooting this is the height of gun reproduction to is extreme bravo lugerman

[@Devin_Stromgren]

You're assuming that it ran flawlessly out of the box. Some of those rounds might have gone into breaking it in.

[@LugerMan45]

Some rounds of 8000 plus, were during testing and perfecting function. But the point of testing was also reach a point of destruction of some parts, just to see what goes first. Well nothing has , at this point. Still waiting for that to happen.

[@ausmax1972]

If you have to ask how much, you can't really afford it...

[@MatthewCochrane9622]

@ Eugene Golubtsov Thank you so much for: #1 sending the gun to Ian, as I'm sure you're aware Ian does a great job giving us enthusiasts a way to explore and in a way experience things that are less than common. This is not a piece that we can see at the local gun shop, so having a video from a trusted POV like Forgotten Weapons that tears down the gun on camera and nicely covers subtle details can help us make informed decisions about future purchases. #2 for commenting directly in this thread. Raw interaction with the community speaks volumes, especially when you're dealing with odd limited production firearms. Having a response here certainly leaves me with some additional assurance that you'll assist with any issues should one arise with one of your firearms.

[@NoosaHeads]

As a Luger (artillery 8.5" barrel) owner, I can assure anyone that these are superb guns. The machining and finish is nothing short of superb. The accuracy, tested on a machine bench rest is as good as anything modem I've tried. I don't think I've ever had a single misfire (like my broomhandle Mauser). That, in itself, is amazing.

[@ResidentWeevil2077]

Just imagine if the .45 ACP Luger became the standard issue sidearm of the US Army instead of the 1911. Being that the barrel doesn't tilt vertically like in a Browning system, the Luger is highly accurate and maintains zero after every shot. Even if the toggle lock is a more expensive system to manufacture, I'll take a Luger over a 1911 any day.

[@MrDRSMAX]

@@ResidentWeevil2077 The 1911 isn't exactly inaccurate.

[@Phantom_Aspekt]

A 10mm Luger sounds like the perfect combination of style and performance

[@daisyruin]

You stopped when it was getting good, we do need to hear more of that. The effort and skills required to go from blueprint to tooling to production is literally everything. Much appreciation for Mr. Golubtsov's work, thank you both.

[@puebespuebes8589]

Yes !

[@GeneralLotz]

Don't cut off the info midstream....

[@nomanmcshmoo8640]

The crazy thing is how FACTORY 1907 they look.....the surface finish of the materials is amazing.

[@andyrihn1]

Now you just need a pedersen rifle to have the ultimate alternate history GI kit

[@justinreiley747]

Now this is a timeline I wanna live in

[@josephmontanaro2350]

Is this the same timeline that later on we get the .30 carbine Tompson, the american FAL, G11 and the AN 94 as a general issue rifle?!?! Someone crack open a portal there I'm packing my bags :D

[@KageMinowara]

@@josephmontanaro2350 Is this also the timeline where the 1900AD British Military adopt Hugh Gabbet Farifax's Mars Automatic Pistol and they are now widely available? Because if it is then I'm going with you.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Toggle locks for everyone!

[@steampunksamp80]

KageMinowara Then we get a Rocket plane in the 40’s and a heli in the 40’s, IM COMING WITH YOU

[@amoose8439]

I demand a fireside talks regarding the cut content.

[@desertdunebuggy]

Did you get serial number 4 for "4-gotten" weapons?

[@LugerMan45]

Lightning Von-Wiffle Вritches no he did not, number 4 has to meany tasks to accomplish and to meany rounds to be shoot thru it,

[@scotttrenary6154]

Lightning the person who manufactured the gun responded to you. His name is Eugene and it would be rude not to compliment the man after he replied to your comment

[@scotttrenary6154]

Also I met the man at wannenmachers gun show. Simply put he’s a genius

[@Lowlandlord]

You sir deserve a punch in the face.

[@indenkellerag]

Omg

[@matthayward7889]

3:15 “I think we’ve heard enough about this...” For possibly the first time, I disagree. I know you’ve touched on the difficulties of reverse engineering before, but I’d happily hear it all again Given the level of engineering that must have gone into this reproduction, six grand doesn’t actually seem that bad to me. I’m heading straight to Luger Mans website to check out the Carbines...

[@con6lex]

Matt Hayward It would be cool to interview Lugerman. Why did he pick such a difficult and financially uncertain project? (Everyone says “I’d buy one” until it is time to place a real order.) How did he learn about manufacturing? How did he get the blueprints?

[@matthayward7889]

con6lex brilliant idea! I’d love to listen to Ian interviewing lugerman about the financial and engineering side of making these 👍

[@dwightgruber8308]

A few years ago Eugene asked a question on the Luger Forums, what pistol would the Luger collectors there like to see recreated? After much discussion the majority of respondents opined that they would prefer to see--and buy--a .45 cal. replica (10mm and .40 cal. also came up as being more modern alternatives). The "blueprints"--actually CNC programming specifications--came from gunsmith Mike Krause of San Mateo CA, who made detail measurements of the legendary original Sid Aberman .45 Luger in order to make his own limited--run edition of the .45 Luger (at almost three times the price of Eugene's). Eugene had to modify the CNC data somewhat in order to make it work.

[@kylebrady969]

@@dwightgruber8308 Am I correct saying this Mike Krause is the same as Krausewerke? Ian made a video on one of those .45 Lugers too

[@dwightgruber8308]

@@kylebrady969 Correct.

[@tacticalmanatee]

The price actually isn't that bad compared to original Lugers in unusual or historically significant configurations. Around here $3000 is the going rate on a decent all-original WW2 Luger last I checked, and I've handled a few that were in the $4000-8000 range. LugerMan's price is very reasonable considering the work that has to go into making one of these things.

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

I mean from what I've seen you can find real lugers for under 2k, makes no sense to buy this one atm if you ask me

[@aniquinstark4347]

​@@neo-filthyfrank1347 It's not a regular Luger so comparing it to one is pointless

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

@@aniquinstark4347 The comparison is extremely relevant, stop coping.

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

@@rdrrr this matters for some reason

[@neo-filthyfrank1347]

@@rdrrr So long as it remains more expensive than the real lugers it's trying to make more accessible buying it will be pointless.

[@ManWithNoName.]

Even though I can't buy this, I am happy it exists. Props to you Lugerman!

[@janenorell971]

It doesn't exist!2+yrs waiting only lip service!

[@Talatharas]

I was actually kinda enjoying your talk about gun manufacturing. why did you cut yourself off? :(

[@LugerMan45]

Talatharas seconded

[@CGoody564]

Although I found it extremely comedic, I was upset he didn't get back to it later. Oh well. At least I learned this is manufactured where I live. Never would have guessed.

[@generalolivervonbismarck393]

@@LugerMan45 hey it’s the lugerman himself

[@michaelw.6957]

While $6,000 is out of my price range personally, it isn't a whole lot considering how much work (physically and from an engineering standpoint) was put in to them. A lot of folks don't bat an eye at that much for a Rolex Submariner or a 'decent' used car.

[@DeltaOps3]

Its a lot

[@happyjohn354]

They make a 10mm version as well that I really want.

[@taggartlawfirm]

Well I was gonna buy two, but I had daughters instead.

[@karlwagner932]

YOU TWO ARE AMAZING !! WHERE ELSE WE COULD FIND SUCH INTERSTING AND SOLID REPORTS ! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME !! BE BLESSED !!

[@RichardGoth]

*+pauses on the Bergmann+* *+eyes glint+* *+BERGMANN INTENSIFIES+*

[@ryker8338]

This gun, this Luger, looks so... I can't describe it as anything less than beautifully flawless.

[@TheRPGamer7]

"I think we've heard enough about this.." No, we haven't, I think this is one thing I disagree with Ian on. I'd really like to hear the rest of his thoughts.

[@mistakenotou7681]

+1

[@ron827]

You have mastered great trigger control as I did not see the muzzle bobble at all when you pulled (pressed) the trigger on an empty chamber. You have the potential to become a competition Bullseye shooter. Another great review as usual.

[@Traderjoe]

In my opinion, the Luger is the most beautiful gun in the world. For something that was designed over 130 years ago, it still seems ultra modern to me and as elegant as can be. I would give my left nit for one, but unfortunately, I am in New York, so it would be easier to get a F4 Phantom

[@LugerMan45]

traderjoes maybe a carbine registered as rifle ?

[@codyjackalope8464]

Personally if i had to take anything into combat itd be a 1911 in .50 AE assuming ammo isnt an issue

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Wow, that thing truly looks authentic (without claiming to be...hell, the manufacturing-mark (that LMI in stylized script) is cool and really reminiscent of DWM). Great video Ian and great gun, KUDOS to the guy who makes those...the machining alone is stunning, then the finish etc...damned, I want one :) (sadly: Too expensive...I know that quality has it's price, don't get me wrong, but I certainly will not be buying one any time soon!)

[@LugerMan45]

DreamingFlurry does not have to be soon, just send us $250 a month for 2 years and you can have one at the end of 2019.

[@juliannaaka-babayega8941]

This was an awesome video! Thank you for such great content, professionalism and, perspicacity. My Dad, who grew up in Italy during WWII had these as toys...right? He loved this video! Thanks much!

[@dixinormous8539]

i do think your credibility speaks for itself Ian when a manufacturer commits a very rare and exquisite firearm to a full (and proper) review, kudos to you

[@webtoedman]

It's more than difficult to replicate any machine that was made using old school gang milling, broaching and multiple fixture techniques. You really need to replicate the original tooling, much of which would have been made to make only one or two cuts on a component, and have no other application. That's before drawing up the jigs and fixtures, making them, and sourcing the forgings (To original or better spec'). If you want to make saleable quantities at a marketable price, you need as a minimum to build batches, but what do you do in between runs? The overheads don't stop, and the materials for the next batch have to be bought. It's not like drawing it up in your favourite CAD app and chomping it out of bar stock. And then it all has to be heat treated and given an authentic finish without running a'foul of current environmental reg's. That Lugerman has actually made these guns is a startling achievement.

[@knutdergroe9757]

webtoedman, Amen ! If all the time was added up.... 6k, is most likely braking even... Or a little low..... What a amazing job, this man has done !

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

What prevents CNC machines from accurately machining one of these provided you do have measurments, and write the program?

[@webtoedman]

@Promotions Only I said it is difficult to duplicate products that were designed to be made on manual machinery using C NC, not that Luger man's products are made on manual machines.

[@Logan-zp8bi]

​@@webtoedman not to mention bureaucracy, even if its for a simple pistol they'll treat it as you planning on taking over the world with it.

[@lordsummerisle87]

​@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 Machine tools make parts by cutting away specific bits of metal from a raw piece of stock or forging or casting until all that's left is the component you want. CNC machine tools in 2022 essentially make many different cuts on a single workpiece one after the other, ideally from a single clamping setup. These cuts can be very complex and automatically move the cutting tool in up to 5 different axes at once. Manual machine tools like were available in 1922 are generally only able to make single, simple cuts at a time in a single axis. Setting up each cut is a skilled and time consuming process. With a single machine you pay a skilled machinist ($$$) to adjust the machine and workpiece for each cut, which is slow, labour-intensive, and expensive. This is how bespoke and prototyping jobs used to be done (and to an extent still are in manual shops). In a production environment a 1922 factory would have hundreds of machines, usually run by non-skilled ($) and semi-skilled ($$) operators. The skilled machinists ($$$) would set up each machine to make one or a few simple cuts, often using custom-built fixtures that presented the work to the tool in exactly the right way for that operation, or with custom cutting tools that cut complex shapes on the simple machines. These fixtures and cutting tools were made by toolmakers ($$$$). Let's say you're making pistol slides. Blank piece of steel goes into the first machine, which cuts a groove in the bottom. Piece goes to the next machine and a step is cut in the side of the groove. Maybe cut number 3 is to flatten the side of the slides so a dozen are ganged up in a fixture and flattened with a single huge flattening cutter. Machine 4 has a radiused cutter and cuts a radius on the top of the slide. And so on. This process of building fixtures and cutters and setting them up in a production line is called "tooling up" and was a slow and very expensive business. A huge advantage to changing to a different machine per cut is that each machine might work differently. Some manual machines make cuts that simply can't be replicated by a CNC machining centre, like a shaper or a broach. A particular weakness of CNC machine tools is making deep, narrow, non-round holes -- like a mag well. These were often done with broaches (complex custom-built cutters pushed fully through a hole in the workpiece, cutting away a tiny amount at a time) back in the day, or even by skilled hand filing. There's also little penalty to refixturing a piece many times on a manual production line so the parts were designed with this in mind. Not so much on a CNC setup, where the ideal is to minimise refixturing as far as possible, since this is where delays, increased labour costs and errors creep in. So basically this is why some designs don't lend themselves to CNC production, and why sometimes the only way to do it is either build a production line (with a huge setup cost) or manufacture in batches (where you'll have inventory tied up for years). Either way the overheads are huge and often there's just not enough demand for reproduction [insert rare historic gat] to make it worthwhile.

[@londonjolly9174]

"10mm Luger" Holy hell

[@LugerMan45]

London Jolly not holly hell.... just 6600 dollars and you can have one.... holly hell is worth much more then that ... I am just guessing.

[@someturkishguy8638]

Fallout should've had this

[@mikehagan4320]

Good video. I'm glad to see the Lugar Man giving the Luger the attention it deserves. It's good to know he is out there putting in the work to keep this wonderful platform alive.

[@T3hderk87]

I got so excited when you started on your rant!! We always want more info and backstory! Thank you.

[@nerdlydood]

Why would I be listening to Gun Jesus if I've ever gotten bored by him sperging about guns like that? Don't just cut yourself off, if people wanna ignore talking and go ahead to the shooting they can skip ahead all they want. Boo, I say, boo upon you, Mr. McCollum. You bring shame upon yourself and upon your goatee.

[@RalphReagan]

Ryan Wagner exactly

[@GundamReviver]

Seconded!

[@Pdro-gw7lu]

Yup. Even a seperate video to keep the digression to its own thing, keeping discussion of the gun to its own vid for people who just want that

[@Batmack]

Thirded

[@Croak1]

Fourthed! Had a case of gunnus interuptus when he cut the history short. Made worse because he was wearing a C&Rsenal shirt, which gave me even more of a history boner.

[@willkenny5687]

Kinda disappointed by that tangent getting cut off. Yeah, I want to see the gun shoot, but I also came here to hear you talk about it.

[@crabmansteve6844]

Bravo, LugerMan. That gun is absolutely beautiful. I'm American born, but my family is from Germany and a Luger in .45 really does it for me. Beautiful German engineering with the most American pistol cartridge ever.

[@ariyapol1111]

WoW the sound when the toggle is release is so satisfying!

[@spef7396]

Tubular my man !

[@d4ngru5h83]

Spef!?!

[@PootleMoonpig]

Where have you been? You had us all worried young man!

[@Siskiyous6]

Totally Tubular

[@Superbouncybubble]

Is that the real spef

[@spef7396]

Superbouncybubble no this is the fake spef

[@bortflong5734]

How come that was the pattern of every squirt gun I grew up with? '79-'86

[@sportsterlad]

1958: Our 8th grade gang all had them. 'Dang', they were accurate! From the back seat of the school bus to the back of the bus driver's head! And cheap enough to afford a replacement after The Confiscations.

[@rogerwhite5061]

Admittedly they were prolific but I remember seeing a lot of C-96's as a kid too, though they had an unuseable tiny shoulder stock . I always remember the water from them had this weird taste

[@thishonestgrifter]

roger white That taste was was suspicious Chinese chemicals. Mhm mhm my favorite!

[@Name-ps9fx]

I used to have a suction cup dart gun as a full size Luger...my fav!

[@janenorell971]

Lugerman finally delivered! Beautiful,took 23 weeks.

[@HereticalKitsune]

I'd have loved to hear more on the history and everything before you cut back to the shooting. It was fun, though, to see you so enthusiastic and energetic about this pistol, it was fun to watch your reactions!

[@skrymerU]

Wait nooooo. It was just stating to get really interesting. We definitely haven't heard enough about the problems of manufacturing replica guns.

[@con6lex]

Skrymer U I know Ian has touched on this before. You need to know tolerances...which you can’t get by measuring one sample. I imagine materials science comes in: which type of steel to use, tempering, surface treatment, etc. plus you have to make jugs and tooling.

[@benec5816]

Wow what a working machine thanks for showing

[@CHEECHMUN]

I heard the tuning pitch! Fanstastic review and Greatness that the Luger Man is manufacturing in the USA!!!!! Kudos

[@keredyck9597]

A fantastic video!!! Although it left me feeling extremely jealous... keep up the awesome vids!

[@raspucin70]

"Hans...fetch me ze tuning fork"

[@stevenboelke6661]

No, I don't think we heard enough of that. If you could post the rest of that segment that would be cool.

[@gunzablazin01]

When you did the video on InRange with this I was excited to see the more indepth look and while this was a great video Ian all of us would have liked to have listen to the rest of your introduction. I also find it hilarious Luger man is offering the gun in 10mm because that shows how much of a comeback 10mm has made. I personally became a big fan of 10mm about 10 years ago when I was able to pick up a S&W 1006 for dirt cheap because 10mm was not popular and widely available at that time and the guy who was selling it inherited it from his uncle and had no interest in it and had been trying to sell it for months. Since then I have fallen in love with the cartridge and now that its popularity has taken off I have since acquired a few other guns in the caliber. I would love to see more 10mm related content on either InRange or Forgotten Weapons but it seems from previous videos (specifically Q&As and some others that Karl and yourself are not really interested in doing any content related to 10mm. Is that the case or is just having more pressing matters at hand? I'd really love to hear your thoughts on 10mm and I know lots of other interested people would as well.

[@jonminer9891]

Hi, Ian. I think this is a very interesting pistol. I prefer the looks to the modern black plastic format. Of course, I could never afford such an expensive pistol. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

I would have liked to hear more, to be honest...😅😅

[@drmaudio]

This is certainly not in my budget, but I love that such a faithful reproduction is being done. Living history.

[@axelstein01]

More than 30 years ago I shot a 9mm Luger and it was the nicest guns I have ever shot from an ergonomically point of view and I also found it very accurate.

[@lunkydog]

When I was a kid in the late 60s, early 70s, Guns and Ammo did a monthly Luger feature and I remember when they covered the trials gun. It lost to the 1911 but all of it's stoppages only required the toggle to be slapped down, implying that the 1911 ones were less but more involved IIRC.

[@chrischiampo8106]

Lugerman is Da Man 😮😮😮😊 Amazing Work Lugerman 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks]

Was ready to order one, then that number 6,000 came up and dissuaded me. If I somehow won the lottery I'd have one, but since I don't play the lottery the odds are against me.

[@bigretardhalo]

Thomas Mobley - The odds can't be that much worse than if you did play the lottery

[@absoluteinfinity1197]

Ian we are mechanical engineers as well, don't stop about the manufacturing story we actually love to hear it!

[@russwoodward8251]

Fantastic review. As a .45 it even keeps most of the slim profile that the original did. Thanks!

[@gabenplznerf1093]

This is a dangerous precedent... ...That custom reproductions might be of functioning quality.

[@emilhajbert5326]

Woah Ian that intro is going to trigger a lot of people!

[@ForgottenWeapons]

The revolvers were just control guns to evaluate how the semiautos did. :)

[@estebancinardi45]

How can this comment be two weeks old of this video came out like 15 minutes ago?

[@markchatman9583]

Esteban Cinardi patreons get to watch first

[@emilhajbert5326]

Time Travel

[@RomanianAlphaDaddy]

I've said it only about all of your videos...but considering the Luger is my favorite platform ever after the DA Revolver, THIS ONE REALLY IS MY DREAM GUN!!!!!

[@HatOnAHat]

WOW! Thanks, Ian! This is so cool. Wish I had the money to afford such a nice piece.

[@inund8]

But I wanted to hear more!

[@sb-ant6457]

And so it was, Lugerman received the sign of the crosshair and the blessing of gun Jesus, and the multitude did rejoice.

[@mexanik9]

Every video on this channel is top quality one

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

Just recently found your channel. Killer stuff. I worked in the firearms industry in retail mostly in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The lugar of course was highly collectable. While working at a very small sporting goods store in a very small town, a man comes in and had inherited a firearm from his father who was in ww1. This man that inherited it was pretty old to me being that I was in my early 20s. This lugar he had was an ARTILLERY lugar I believe. It had a really long barrel. Adjustable flip up sights. I think if memory serves me his Lugar was in .30 lugar I believe it was called. Very cool gun, but not really practical. Great history though. Looks like he did a great job..

[@richardtibbetts5020]

What a beauty! Is there a broomhandle Mauser in .45 ACP also? I've heard there is..

[@ForgottenWeapons]

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[@richardtibbetts5020]

Nasaq Licos No chance of return?

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

keith moore I don't think they ever made any select fire models, they're all semi-automatic. They were made by the Shansei arsenal and are some of the most well made Chinese C96's out there. There were also some reproductions made in the 70's and 80's also in china that were passed off as originals.

[@Insanabiliter_In_Linea]

keith moore I know you didn't say they were less well made lol, I was just mentioning that they're well made for the hell of it since Chinese C96's have an awful reputation. Also I've just never heard of a select fire .45 C96, just the 9mm and 7.63x25 full auto variants and of course the semi-auto only Shansei .45acp C96 (Type 17 I believe but I can't remember atm). I'd like to know more if they exist, though. I didn't mean to sound argumentative lol

[@jasevalentine4997]

Yes, the Chinese warlords so loved it that one who possessed armory capability made a fair number of them in .45ACP. The characters on the pistol translated as "Chinese Box Pistol". At least a thousand of these were imported into the US 30 years ago, all with shitty foul bore erosion, so most will found bored out & relined with rifled liners

[@nathandarcy1855]

it's a Luger for real men !

[@richarddixon7276]

I must admit I was starting to get really into Ian's explanation of the manufacturing process and its difficulty's , Guess I'll just have to go back and re watch C&Rsenal Luger episode again, If memory serves the .45 Luger was mentioned in that episode (Best Check) Like I need an Excuse ! . I really enjoy Ian's content and this is not an exception. Cheers Ian very entertaining and as informative as time constraints allow, as always .

[@johnschofield9496]

Ian, thank you, this is amazing!

[@wiseoldwizard]

"I think we've heard enough of this..." Who wanted to hear more?

[@toledo152]

For the time and money that had to been invested to bring this to market, I know it sounds crazy but the price seems reasonable.

[@smartacus88]

Damn. The dude making these is an artisan. A master craftsman. As a student of German weaponry i can say, in my simi-educated opinion, this thing is absolutely stunning. I am shocked that anyone with the industrial resources at hand would go through the trouble of recreating these. It's a true talisman.

[@randyallen2771]

Thanks Ian for making my morning again! Last week I visited Luger Man's site and found his work all most impressive. Personally, I could fancy a carbine in 10mm with a mount on the barrel for a red dot. What a classy piece for pig hunting. Just call me Kaiser Bill. While you have the pistol and test report in hand, perhaps you could do a show on the test itself and explain why the decision was ultimately taken in favor of the Colt. Keep up the good work!

[@graymatrrocks]

People buy 1911's that cost more than this. This is much more worthwhile as a purchase!

[@davidmcguire6043]

Retarded people buy 1911s that cost more. There's a point where you're paying extra just for a name paying an extra $4,500 for something doesn't add $4,500 worth of quality.

[@paullytle1904]

@@davidmcguire6043 you get 90 percent of the functionality of a glock out of a hi point

[@jackdundon2261]

@@paullytle1904 I have read the hi point is ALSO VERY RELIABLE. Just ugly as sin! (Kinda like a glock). My cousin recently passed away, and his .40 hi power NEVER misfires or ftf. I have no clue why he bought it, usually he bought decent guns like Rugers.

[@redfang2507]

Jesus Christ... a $6k gun?!? *Mud Test It*

[@gardnorluis]

RedFang hahaha

[@RalphReagan]

Lol

[@jaydee5156]

I'm impressed and intrigued. I've always had a fascination with the Luger.

[@LugerMan45]

Jay Dee orders are coming in fast... please your orders now....or wait for 2019 to roll around

[@41levergun]

That was Great! I've always wondered what that test gun was like! Boy does it shoot! Wish I could afford one!

[@bengrosser8722]

There is still one of the us trials guns around a private colector has is and he paid 850,000 dollars for it

[@LugerMan45]

And that is the one we used as a model for reproduction.

[@Cowinspace]

@3:14; "I think we've heard enough about this..." I hope I'm not alone in disagreeing with this statement. I would love to hear more about the process involved in producing an accurate copy of a gun like this.

[@billsmith5166]

Wow, great job Lugerman!

[@milocabral7428]

I saw this gun at their store near me, amazing staff and a fantastic firearm.

[@Hepabytes]

I was kind if interested in what you were saying before you cut it off.

[@karm65]

you're just getting really interesting around 3:16 and you cut it off. is that posted anyware?

[@boschman36]

That is an extremely impressive firing reproduction!

[@micko6393]

Amazing job. Hats off to LugerMan!

[@hoosierjonny336]

*cries* Why must all the amazing guns cost so much? LugerMan if I win the lottery I will be placing an order for a few lol!

[@LugerMan45]

Hoosier Jonny oh lottery.... so 7-8 dollars a day for lottery ... 20 month and you can have one ... send your lottery money to us, then you getting a gun for sure

[@hoosierjonny336]

Excellent gun and I wish you and your business a great deal of success and I look forward to one day owning one of those beautiful pieces!

[@marcppparis]

Would be pretty badass to CCW a .45 Luger

[@LugerMan45]

thedudepdx anyone willing to enter competition with one will get 5% off On there order

[@21cdb]

Plus 1 to a vid of what you cut. I love the history and engineering stuff as much as the shooting.

[@goomba008]

You really ignited my enthusiasm about this gun and I was about to run out and get one till you mentioned the price >_

[@kutamsterdam]

Finish your story Ian don't cut yourself short man!.

[@hawks1ish]

If you got scope rings mounted you could go bear hunting with your steam punk 10mm Luger lol haha

[@LugerMan45]

Joshua Lansell-Kenny I will put any sight system on it and a heavy long barrel, if you send me some bear meat when you get one

[@shaggnar2014]

I love how clearly enamored he is with this gun, it's so genuine. I mean how can you not love a .45 luger?

[@janenorell971]

By ordering one 2+yrs ago and haven't seen it yet!

[@peaceraybob]

Wow, that was massively impressive! All through the six mags, I was waiting for the catastrophic malfunctions that would stop shooting for the day. When that never happened, and has apparently had EIGHT THOUSAND rounds through it... just, wow.

[@JohnDoe-uc5iu]

i bet he could sell just as many fosberrys if he reproduced those as well

[@loddude5706]

Dear Mr. Tarantino, 'Edward Fosberryhands & The Ballistol Kid' or 'Webley Gump'? Discuss : )

[@JohnDoe-uc5iu]

lets be real here, id use my next semesters tuition to buy one

[@tarmaque]

The Webley-Fosbery is a bit of a kludge. It works, but it's also not great. If you really want an autorevolver I recommend you find a Mateba Unica 6. It's a considerably better design than the Webley-Fosbery. (And they're making them again!) A friend of mine has one in .357 Magnum. He shoots it in competition and it works really well. (The bastards won't let him shoot against the other revolvers though. He has to shoot against the automatics, but they handicap him because it only holds 6 rounds.)

[@JohnDoe-uc5iu]

im not really a fan of autorevolvers(or revolvers in general) although the mateba is pretty neat. i like the fosberry mostly for that 2nd cool historical factor. didnt know theyre making matebas again though- thats pretty neat. i wonder if more will get imported this time around?

[@webtoedman]

(Gabbet Fairfax) Mars attacks?

[@davidcox2264]

I think I hear Ian checking his piggy bank to see if it has 6 grand in it. :)

[@tarmaque]

Hear it? I can _smell_ it!

[@mutantfmj]

Ian, The 2 original.45 cal Lugers are at Aberdeen proving grounds armory. Saw them along with many other weapons back in 1995 as Marine going thru foreign weapons school.

[@duantorruellas716]

A reproduction done right . Made after the classic , and accurate as hell with one hand. The perfect stocking stuffer.

[@quiteindeed6809]

But can we get a replica puckle gun?

[@offdeadeye88]

The pickle he featured was technically partially reproduction

[@tropicalfruit4571]

Ian, I was wondering, is it annoying that every time you shoot something obstructs your vision or is the process so fast that there's nothing to complain about?

[@828enigma6]

I've shot the 9mm Luger. It cycles so fast you don't notice it.

[@janenorell971]

I'll complain 2yr +and waiting!!

[@TheSquidPro]

Truly an artwork in detail.

[@ojjenkins7110]

If I played the lottery and won I'd buy one of the 45 ACP ones. I think this video is my favorite one Ian. :-)