Former Pharmaceutical Rep Details How Oxycontin Took Over

Taken from JRE #1873 w/Brigham Buhler:
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[@Chris-oz9qx]

Remember, the pharmaceutical industry was to be trusted and believed during the pandemic no matter what and if you didn't you were deemed the enemy.

[@DanielFrost79]

Indeed. No thank you, i wanna live.

[@bryanjensen2614]

@The wock No, we didn't.

[@godofthisshit]

@Chris Do you vow to never take anything the pharma industry ever produce?

[@layinlow77]

And most people just lined up.

[@yoshzlac2429]

Let's be Honest We all remember this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enLGmpWKlLamrNE

[@DylPiickles]

When I was 18 years old my oldest brother(35 years old) got me to pick up his pain pill prescription- he was in the hospital, pretty common for him as he had Crohn’s Disease( he was diagnosed when he was 10). I gave the pharmacy his DOB, paid his $6 copay and was given so many pain pills it was unreal- fentanyl patches, morphine suckers, oxy 10s(200 of them) as well as soma and maybe a benzo of some sort. I’m shocked now(10 years later) knowing the potency and street value of everything they gave me and how lenient they were with letting me take it with just a date of birth and a $1 per script without checking my ID. Anyways- I got back to the hospital and gave him all his scripts and he asked me to stay with him for the night and handed me a pill and told me to just take it. My oldest brother was nearly a father figure to me, so, I obliged. 40 minutes later and I felt so much better than I ever had my entire life- I didn’t feel any anxiety like I typically did, me and my brother were laughing and talking about everything imaginable- we seemed to get along better than we ever had before. I stayed the night with him and woke up early the next morning as I had work. I woke him up and we said our goodbyes for the moment and he handed me a handful of the oxy 10s… probably about 10 or 15 of them. This really excited me but little did I know I was making the single most detrimental mistake of my life. That dozen or so pills( which lasted a few days for me) turned into a now 12 year addiction that has only gotten worse and worse. My other brother and a lot of his friends as well as almost everyone my age moved up to oxy(Roxy) Blue 30s…. A few years later this turned into heroin… then to fent… My brother never recovered fully from his crohn’s/opiate addiction( that was fueled by the pharmaceutical company- pumping it into him for about 30-35 years) and sadly he got tired of it all and ended his own life 6 years ago… there isn’t a single day that goes by that I don’t miss my brother as well a single day that I don’t crave something that is poisoning me. I am sober atm, on Subs but these opiates have literally ruined my entire life: I’ve overdosed 6 times, my brother is dead, I’ve had 50 friends OD from it and it still haunts me EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. Whoever made these things so chemically addictive, knew about it, and still pushed it on so many people and made it so available to the youth of America. I hope they burn in Hell for all eternity and are forced to watch their loved ones- friends and family alike suffocate on their own vomit only to come back to life and do it again over and over for all eternity - I will never be the same person again. RIP Gabriel Sullivan you will be forever missed… I hate you hurt so bad brother.. rest easy. Rip Austin RIP Fo Rip RJ Rip Philly RIP Felicia RIP PUDGE RIP so many more I hope anyone else who is going through this is making it okay… these bastards who did this will get what’s coming to them one day… Edit: Thanks everyone for your kind words and motivation. One day at a time. Also, I feel really bad for some of the people on these comments who wish to demonize my brother or simply label me as a junkie- I hope none of these individuals(or anyone close to them)have to go through the hell that is addiction. Much love to you all … thank you 🙏 ❤️

[@austincoachk479]

Heartbreaking. I’m incredibly sorry for your loss.

[@lyralove]

I wish you peace, blessings & continued sobriety 🙏💜

[@lucaspetersen]

Im so sorry you had to go through this, brother. Stay strong.

[@furious-vengeance]

Chills up my spine reading that mate. I quit cold turkey in 2020. Rest in Peace Gabriel. On the real though, I'm shocked he gave you those pills. I wouldn't do it to my worst enemy. It is hell on earth.

[@chiragmehta8212]

Sorry. I had to leave a just b as pharmacist because I would not fill the prescriptions as they were obviously not safe. My company just cared for me to fill the script.

[@micheller3922]

When I got my wisdom teeth out, my mom, who is a nurse was, practically yelling at the nurse that she didn’t want me to get a prescription for oxy, but instead for Tylenol #3. The nurse kept insisting on oxy, but my mom stood her ground. Got the T3s and barely used them. I’m so thankful for my nurse mom!

[@TCH534]

Lmao give me the oxy. You wouldn’t be on them long enough to get a dependence.

[@MarksTournaments]

@@TCH534 playing with fire

[@TCH534]

@@MarksTournaments not as much as you think. Especially for wisdom teeth. You’re not on it long enough to get a dependence.

[@JeriDro]

yea my mom took the pills away from me too and I just had to take the pain

[@RockyandPrincess.]

I would’ve been like mom hush… I would’ve acted completely naive Me to Nurse: 10mg oxycodone sounds good, can you explain what that is please.. nurse: well Oxycodon is a Opi… Me: I’ll take it

[@WaylonAndST.MathyusDad35]

I prescribed Oxy at 16 after 2 root canals . I took one and was feeling good, my daddy ended up throwing them out and given me ibuprofen. One of the best things he ever did

[@politicallyincorrect2564]

Imagine giving you oxy instead of ibuprofen 😅 that doctor is a killer.

[@imrisqix6402]

Are you American if so how much extra do you have to pay for pay for oxy script over Ibuprofen

[@Musiclover-bg2nn]

I never let my kids take Oxy after wisdom teeth.

[@pky0ass]

@@imrisqix6402with basic health insurance I paid $5.22 for 20 “perc 5-325” pills

[@enginecalibrationcode8779]

I was addicted to opiate pain meds for a while. I finally realized what was happening and thought to myself I should get one more script filled so I can tapper off. Nope, fully abused that script. After that, I decided to get off them completely no matter what. I quit cold turkey and the next 3 weeks were hell, but I prevailed and haven't touched them since. That was almost 9 years ago.

[@johnwoo667]

Did you ever watch the first Trainspotting? If so, how realistic was the withdrawal scene?

[@mrsmileyburris106]

Withdraw can get really bad it took me 3 months to get clean once it takes a lot of willpower to get off drugs or alcohol it’ll feel like you could just die at anytime my biggest problem was I couldn’t sleep but maybe 2 hours at a time it’s hard but do able .. If your on fentanyl or heroin that’s the hardest to kick I hear and if your trying to get off alcohol you need a doctors help I hear you could actually die going cold turkey I was always on pain medication I don’t remember the movie but if you can help it don’t abuse taper off and good luck I hope this helped a little

[@that1electrician]

When i was in rehab getting off of black tar, I felt had seeing all the guys come in that were strictly oxycontin. The stuff i was taking was 60% pure at best. The stuff they were taking was 100% pharma grade pure. Their withdrawals would last an entire month, but I would always bounce back after a week.

[@KClouisville]

@@mrsmileyburris106 Yeah, if one is a true physically dependent alcoholic....like a person who suffers DT's when they stop, they can die simply from the withdrawal. Also can happen with people physically addicted/dependent on benzos as well.

[@mrsmileyburris106]

@@KClouisville I didn’t think about the Benzo my brother in law used to get seizures when he wouldn’t take enough a very bad thing to experience someone going through if you haven’t yet thank you great piont

[@liamh9814]

I was on a plane from Greece to France. I got sat next to an American accountant. She was doing an audit of a Greek factory that was making Oxycontin for the US market. She told me that demand was out of whack and that her drug company client was farming out production wherever it could. She said it was like the Golden Goose. She also said she hated doing the work because everyone knew the truth of how sales were predicated on addiction. Crime of the century?

[@Ryan88881]

Crime of the century? Severely limiting access to oxycodone and other opioids in the early to mid 2010s did far more damage than companies pushing it on people ever did.

[@gunnar4554]

That's dark.

[@aaronwebb1548]

Last century, sure. This century they're already working on forcing an even larger number of people into an even less useful drug, on threat of Genocide. Gonna be a good 20s and 30s again this century, fighting with authoritarians of all stripes; commies, fascists and best of all "neoliberals".

[@TheHigherVoltage]

How is free market capitalism 'the crime of the century'?

[@maxjohnson8659]

sounds like a Fight Club scenario

[@jordanbridenstine8372]

I had Oxy’s in 2010 for a serious and painful injury. After a month or so of being in intense pain everything subsided as I was healing but I kept taking the prescribed dose and started feeling intense Euphoria. I suddenly realized I was laying in a dark room doing nothing and shouldn’t be feeling this happy. Ended up flushing the rest down the toilet and taking extra strength OTC medicine. One of the best choices I’ve ever made. I’m grateful I realized something was wrong before it got out of control

[@drew425]

Pharmaceuticals in the water👹👹👹

[@NoName-np8ko]

@@drew425 Wish my kitchen faucet was pouring Oxy water...

[@khaoticgrumpy]

Consider yourself one of the lucky ones

[@DillonMcAuliffe]

Glad you stop taking them, but flushing medication down the toilet is harmful.

[@gepo6882]

That’s is the best way to explain it. To explain drug addiction over all. You are in a dark room but you have this wild euphoria. And that dark room could be anywhere.. it could be under the bridge your dirty assss room or just ur miserable office at ur job. But the pill/drug just makes it ALL ok, but it doesn’t

[@ADAMSintheSKY]

My father fell victim to this debilitating drug. He was very successful and built a million dollar company from the ground up. He came from nothing. Being the second person in Texas to receive a ceramic hip replacement, at the ripe age of 43, the doctor prescribed him pain medication. He got hooked and began using OxyContin as well. He ended up losing his company, got forced to retire from the fire department, and we lost my brother at the age of 31 (they were in the addiction together). Now, he is a completely different person. In my eyes he has the mind of a 4 year old. My poor mother has stuck with him through some horrendous years of withdrawals and wondering where our next meal might come from. His life is a perfect example of a doctor and pharm ripping the American dream away from a great man. Hope this reaches someone who might be going through what our family went through.

[@user-oo4iu4fl8n]

If he was as smart as you claim he was, he wouldn't have been hooked on drugs. Addicts looking for ways to justify their failures. He had his chance and fumbled the ball. Blame him and no one else. Welcome back to broke life.

[@chungajuice1620]

@@user-oo4iu4fl8nhe trusted his doctor to look out for his best interest and so took the doctor’s prescribed doses. The doses back then during the opioid epidemic were designed to make a patient addicted to OxyContin. If you listened and followed to your doctor’s instructions, you would become addicted through sheer human biology and pharmacology. That’s not his dad’s fault, his dad was set up for addiction by a professional he trusted. Have some perspective and empathy.

[@Godismiracles18]

People have choices man we gotta be tough as Americans and stop.whining amd take charge its no worse than budlight Alcohol its more addicting than anything so stop blaming and take responsibility and be tough Americans again

[@ADAMSintheSKY]

@@Godismiracles18 and go back to third grade to learn grammar and punctuation 😂

[@ADAMSintheSKY]

@@user-oo4iu4fl8nthe same reason you’re broke. Not smart enough.

[@mayakay9734]

EDIT: Thank you everyone for your kind words! he sadly passed away recently to a heart attack and these comments gave me great comfort 💙 my dad was a former meth addict. he had 2 total knee replacements and the doctor prescribed oxy and all sort of pain meds. As a kid, i could never understand why he refused to take his meds and would rather endure the pain and stay sober. he was very strong

[@aureliusva]

Shit, they gave my church going mom 100 oxys after she specifically refused them.

[@cellwrkz8006]

@@aureliusva that's fucking evil

[@maryjane4432]

My dad was a double amputee and he refused to take Vicodin and Gabapentin. Busted his stitches trying to walk too soon. He was nuts

[@lonemaus562]

@@aureliusvatell her to hand them over

[@tylerlockard1685]

My mom was a former meth addict. She was in a minor car crash and tweaked her neck, was prescribed pain drugs and couldn't get enough of them. As an adult I always wonder why she chose the drugs over us. The initial descion to give in. Was she weak? Or never felt love.

[@guitarcheology]

In 1997, my doctor was frustrated because I wasn't taking it every day for pain relief after a major accident. He gave me this lecture that concluded with "We have the technology to eliminate pain. You have the right to live a pain free life." He then handed me yet another prescription for it. I tore up that prescription and never went back to him. My next doctor tried really hard to talk me into taking it every day, but didn't push me as hard. I look back and am grateful I never went down that road they wanted me to go down. I lost friends to that shit.

[@maggaveli6764]

How are you today bro?

[@guitarcheology]

@@maggaveli6764 Living life acclimated to pain.

[@hypnotourist]

Man, you dodged that bullet. Good job.

[@ronin4160]

You lost friends but at least you didn't lose your life. Obligatory "just smoke weed bro lol" but to this day I've never heard of a stoner ODing and I've cold turkeyd several times for jobs and it's totally fine

[@brosskitchens]

Your lucky & smart!

[@FrankO-ek1ec]

Addicted for 5 years, fully functioning junky, never stole, snorted or turned to heroin, went to work everyday. I consider myself very lucky.

[@thecreekrat69]

My dad worked in the coal mines, but what started it was he got threw off a horse. Messed his back up, even got knocked out. Plus pre existing pain from the mines, and breaking his neck in when he was a kid. I vividly remember him driving around the county going to different doctors getting several different prescription for Oxys. I’ve had my doctor tell me he knows other doctors that where offered vacations for telling people oxys wasn’t addictive. It’s crazy what these people got away with. My dad honestly done pretty good for a opiate addict but his life could have done so much better without a crippling opiate addiction. I remember this man being so sick sometimes he would shit hisself on the couch. And the thing is even those opans that you’re not supposed to snort. They are ways around that even. Plus you can literally melt them down in a needle and shoot them up. I would honestly like to know what percentage of coal miners and lumber workers in South West Virginia, West Virginia, and Eastern Kentucky had a prescription for oxys in the early 2000s. Hell anyone in the area really. I lived through it, they where handing that shit out like candy.

[@monicamichael5909]

You gotta watch Dopesick if you haven’t! It’s set in the same area and there’s even a coal miner who gets hooked

[@nfapeng187]

Many did including myself, i am from Ohio. Borderline of PA, and WV. Can get into either state in 2 mins. My entire family worked for a company called Rosebud mining. Its no longer around but everybody and their mother had gotten oxy's. Was a phase just like everything else. Id say just about everyone who did hard-work and had hard injuries to even minor ones were given that stuff sadly. So many shows on it now.

[@10rcoleman]

I worked for a trucking company we hauled coal and that was a way they would pay you if you wanted I knew a few that got paid in oxys

[@jeremywrentzel7390]

My own Father gave me my first oxy. we were smoking pot and watching Fringe, like we did every Thursday night(when it was airing), and he said "Take this, it will make you feel great" 10 years later, I woke up, living with a woman twice my age, I had nothing but debt, no real friends, no family left, and died once for several minutes. I'm 5 Years sober now, and I'll never touch an opiate again.

[@TimBowermeister]

Congrats on five years. 👋 That's awesome

[@eneveasi]

I’m proud of you for getting out bud. That life is so hard - but wow can you find good things going forward. Stay strong 💪🏼

[@NoOne-sn2si]

You were cougar prey! Lol! Glad you got sober, a life of addiction is pure hell.

[@jaymzpatterson2120]

Haha

[@cindystaff2932]

Great to hear that you’re sober!

[@exodus146]

whats more crazy is that this is still happening, nothing has changed. These people need to be held accountable.

[@Chkprofilename]

Lets be honest we remember this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc

[@blackbuck4real]

No actually TONS have changed. It's changed SO MUCH in fact that is why China & Mexican Fentanyl and their anologues are here. Here killing 5Xs the people that OXIES ever could.

[@deadbeats4894]

They're one of the richest families in the world. They just pay money and eat and sleep great.

[@Bobby-rq5pe]

They want it to keep happening. Majority of deaths from it are white

[@fancyclown6863]

when the gov is being paid off, and pharma is making more money off drugs every year, how could this stop?

[@businessphone7905]

Lost my best friend from this. He was a carpenter, fell off a roof onto the floor underneath. Was prescribed oxycontin, watched as his life slipped away from him. Left a fiancee and two beautiful kids behind. That was 20+ years ago. I got to meet both the grandsons he never will. Miss that dude all the time. Come to think about it, just lost another friend who committed suicide after losing his family, marriage, everything after his first born overdosed, who started down the road with oxycontin. Met my other friends son for the first time in an urn oh a shelf. Lost him to opiates, which started with prescription opiates. Fuck the entire Sackler family and pharma in general.

[@scdrescher1]

The whole Purdue pharma/Sackler trial had some amazing details brought to light. These guys, if I’m not mistaken, also make narcan which is used to temporarily block opioid receptors effectively “reversing” the overdose. Then, they make suboxone which is supposed to help addicted patients become not addicted. Essentially, they get you hooked then create a drug that keeps you alive in case you accidentally overdose so you can keep on taking the drug. Then they make a drug to help you become less addicted so they can appear to be helping alleviate the problem. From a financial perspective it’s brilliant. Whether you live or die they make billions. Not to mention the testimony from the trial where a pharma rep said they were told to hire strippers to give lap dances to physicians who were not prescribing enough. These people should be stripped of the money they made killing people and it should be given to those whose lives they destroyed….then they should be hanged.

[@abc33944]

I agree with you 100% .. .., our creator is watching .. they will have to deal with him in good time !

[@damonleonard4886]

They create the problem and come in with a solution to make themselves heros, thats the best way to describe it

[@FathomlessJoy]

Actually some details left out are that Purdue developed, using over $100 million in R&D, a abuse-resistant formula for Oxycotin in 2003. While they could guarantee it would release a opioid blocker if the pill was snorted, smoked, or shot, they could only guarantee than in 99% of the oral doses, that the inhibitor would not be release, meaning that in 1% of the oral doses, the patient would not receive the painkiller. Why did they not release this formula to the masses? The FDA wouldn't approve it, because it was not 100% guaranteed a legit oral dose would receive the medicine, only 99%. So essentially, the US government could have prevented nearly all Oxy overdoses and addictions post 2003 and did not. Why? They were making too much money on their Schedule 2 control of the original drug and extorting money from the Sacklers.

[@jasonvadeboncoeur5870]

Was it the Sackler family who invented Valium?

[@scdrescher1]

@@jasonvadeboncoeur5870 don’t think so. I’d have to research it but I’m pretty sure the Sacklers don’t have a monopoly on avarice so it wouldn’t surprise me if someone else was making billions killing people. Hell, just look at vioxx. The list goes on.

[@joseywales4638]

Oxycontin killed my best friend when we were 20 years old. It's been 25 years since then and I still miss the hell out of him.

[@nuggetdoozy7831]

😢

[@michaelj6392]

That sucks man, I’m sorry.

[@bw-rx1qd]

RIP to your friend ❤

[@DylPiickles]

Sorry for your loss, brother… ❤ When can we class action sue these mofos????

[@jimmymoron944]

Sorry man......

[@OvercomeEverythingJosh]

My dad died of an overdose with his pain medicine in 2009. He was prescribed the non addictive drug known as OxyContin. RIP pops.

[@therealbigfoot3076]

Rip

[@OvercomeEverythingJosh]

@@therealbigfoot3076 thank you 🙏🏽

[@heyheywoahwoahhey]

I'm so sorry for your loss😔🙏🏼

[@wesv8743]

It's really close to home for me as well have lost 3 friends to addiction to pain meds. I got Addicted by having some back pain and then having some dental issues and realized I could do anything with a couple hydrocodone and then I learned about percocets and then I went to Oxys to the point of spending sometimes $300 a day just to keep my addiction alive.. thank God and my family for sticking by me and I finally got clean nearly six years ago. It will grab ahold of you and make you think there is no other way to get through your day. Please keep talking about it and bringing these assholes to light

[@Louisiana1975]

After a leg amputation in 2006, I stayed addicted to hydrocodones for 5 years & Oxy for the last year before I weaned myself off of it. This was during the peak of what this man is talking about. I was very lucky

[@logicaldude3611]

I was given Percocet for my wisdom teeth and OxyContin for an extremely minor hernia surgery… when I was 16 years old. I will never forget taking an Oxy and drinking some Baileys Irish Cream on my friend’s back porch and I literally felt like, “This is the best feeling a person can have, I’ll never feel anything better than this.” It’s f’ing terrifying that they can create something that powerful.

[@mikehuff9793]

16 mixing liquor and pain dope. Got started early

[@EnvisionedBlindness]

@@mikehuff9793 buddy, I was smoking spice and railing bathsalts when I was 14. He started late as far as im concerned

[@mikehuff9793]

@@samsonhaze6595 telling my story bro. How old are you now? I was 34 when I finally got sick and tired of being sick and tired.

[@mikehuff9793]

@@samsonhaze6595 yeah…sounds like you are making the turn. It’s possible. If my sorry ass can do it you can too. All begins with learning to love yourself guilt free. You are worth it…I promise

[@rachelh3250]

I got OxyContin after a surgery to remove my wisdom teeth at 14, my parents would only let me take half every other day or so before bed. It felt so good and I will never touch any other opiates because of it. I would of kept doing them. I still remember vividly and it was 9 years ago now

[@photoboyjet]

I had a heart attack five years ago and while in the ER, was given a shot of morphine. It is hard to explain, but the drug hit immediately and all I could think was, "When are they going to give me another shot?". It wasn't like being high or drunk. I felt warm and happy and didn't even think about the heart attack. Fortunately, they didn't give me anymore. I totally understand how someone could spend their life chasing that feeling.

[@nicktesta20]

Yeah because its literally designed to make your brain feel perfect. Its so sad how many people are dead because of thks stuff. People who may have changed the world for the better.

[@sixscalemafia]

I had morphine at the er too and when I was home for about 3 days I kept wanting it and I never had it before they moment and I wanted it more than anything in the world. That was an uncanny experience.

[@johnyacks7690]

I can tell you from shameful experience that there is only one first time. anything after that can be called attempted suicide. or worse, actual suicide.

[@peanutbuttergirl6098]

I was given a shot of morphine in my IV while in the ER as well. I was incredibly sick and I swore I was going to die. You're right, it hit me immediately but there was no way I was able to stay awake. I passed out immediately for about an hour and a half. But I woke up feeling brand new with not a trace of pain. I never gave morphine another thought. I'm shocked that my body was so worked up that it needed a shot of morphine just to bring me back to normal.

[@Dt.1.KENOBI]

I got morphine in an IV while in the ER for a swollen spleen in a car accident. When the nurse inserted it…i told her that i can see a glow around her like “the last dragon”…it was funny…mightve gotten it once or twice more because i was admitted overnight. In retrospect…i can see why people become head over heels for it…i would never because i have self awareness.

[@anneN0221]

My sweet son became abdicted to oxycontin he is now serving a 14 yr sentence in prision because even though he had a good job he turned crime to support his habit. Hes missed so much. I fear he will come out of prison and go right back to using the thing that will probly end up killing him.

[@nickyhustle]

Joe is the GOAT of Podcasting for many reasons but the biggest and most noticeable difference is the fact that he will let his guests speak at free will and is working his questions around them and letting them help him build this great, interesting conversation. That we watch and know and love. JRE is my favorite for so many reasons

[@tieiatalks]

August 24 of this year was my last dose of OxyContin. I have been on pain management for 15 years and when I raised concerns with a pain management doctor telling him I was concerned by how much I was taking he told me, basically, that if I didn’t want to follow his protocol I could get the fuck out of his practice. So I did. I was on such high doses that it would take me a full year to taper off and even with the slow taper, the first three weeks after stopping the drugs, I still was pretty miserable with really weird side effects. I wish the doctors would address the root cause of the pain rather than throwing pain medication at it. It’s sinister.

[@Chkprofilename]

Lets be honest we waited so long for this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc

[@soulfuzz368]

Wha do you think the root cause is?

[@JP-xs5lo]

Ya that would be nice to treat the root cause whatever it is are medical system is broken. I found out first hand we need stem cell therapy widely available

[@bryantg7641]

I'm with you brother, and I'm terribly sorry for your struggle but I'm glad that it sounds like you're doing well. I feel like for any doctor to be able to write and prescribe this crazy medication they need to have been addicted to it, and or have had to deal with being dope sick because of it before they are allowed to prescribe it.

[@patient8098]

Psychosis from this drug is extremely brutal! Stay strong!

[@Hogbellylife]

The oxycontin push is why I became a opioid addiction. 15 years clean now but I'm lucky to be alive.

[@boomergroomer1996]

It's really annoying how so many junkies ruined this wonderful product for people like me who have chronic health problems.

[@karenburns9952]

@@boomergroomer1996 it’s the people who make the laws ruining for real patients with real doctors.

[@vanitamann7985]

This is so enlightening, thank you so much! About 25 years ago I was in the backyard practicing soccer with our daughter. I kicked the ball and went down in horrible pain. When I went to the Dr. he said that I had severe fibromyalgia and prescribed morphine sulfate at first. I took it for a couple of years or so. He referred me to specialists and they prescribed other pain meds like oxycontin, hydrocodone, even fentanyl patches. Anyway, long story short, I started going to a new Dr and after a couple of years she ordered an MRI and other tests. What I had was very severe spinal stenosis. After back surgery I've been great. I do appreciate these videos, they are so informative. Thank you and Happy New Year!

[@SG-ri6gj]

I’m on the upper spectrum of pain. I go to my level 8 or 9 multiple times everyday. It has taken a toll on me as I’m in my 60s. I have had 2 hips a shoulder replaced and other surgeries. I use cannabis and Alleve. That’s all because Oxycodone almost had me. Luckily my wife was watching me and saved me but I had a rough 4 days of withdrawl and had no idea I was addicted in just 6 days. None of my 6 children ever had a clue. I’m happy as can be most of the time. I choose to be. None not one of these assholes who did this went to jail.

[@joesmalley397]

I'm a recruiter for orthopaedics and spine consultants. Have you ever looked into spinal cord stimulation? That is a great way to remove pain and is almost not even surgery it's that simple..

[@KimLaCapria]

it's criminal cannabis is so effective yet restricted when no one ODs on it.

[@marshallplan651]

The bonus structure for physicians was appalling.

[@gregoryhawsjr3479]

Yep. These drs we’re giving out tons of pills. That’s why they discontinued the 160mg pill. Then reformulated the oc to op. That’s one reason people went to heroin, or the street prices were so ridiculous. People jumped to heroin. It’s sad that money got the sackler family profited so much. Remember that’s only one drug they made 12 billion off. They do antibiotics. U name it. SMH

[@kathigortman4074]

People would be shocked if they knew how true this is.😔

[@Shrimpyyyyyyyy]

Still exists for loads of psych meds

[@_Dylanm]

Mad respect to this gentleman for pre loading his website with a list of sources for his JRE spot. I wish more guests had that kind of initiative.

[@guillermomedel1575]

As a web developer that made me smile

[@Newbobdole]

Yeah, it’s how I would do if I ever got on. Circumvent the awkward ‘Jamie searching for information’ interruptions

[@adriannune8241]

Source?? Trust me bro

[@LisaGWoods]

I can vouch for a lot of this. In the mid to late 90's I worked for a private nurse agency. A lot of ladies from their 60 to 80 yr olds started coming from Dr's with scripts of oxycontin. That's how it started, the teenagers were stealing and snorting grandma's pills. Some ODs. Kids have no sense. They don't know the difference between 20 and 80 mg!

[@killcha_in]

I thought that was awesome.

[@JeriDro]

This is the type of Joe content I like, there is so much stuff like this out there that needs to be brought to light.

[@user-yp2oc2mv8m]

Thank you for letting us know about this.

[@martensmade-it]

I was prescribed 180 oxycodone 20mg and 90 methadone 10mg a month for about 5 years for a back injurie. I was extremely overprescribed by my doctor but in his defense I also never asked to get tapered down I loved the euphoric feeling they gave me. Then one day in 2014 or15 he said he could no longer prescribe them to me because I was to young and need to do physical therapy for the pain which he was right. He winged me down in like 3months cutting my prescription in half each month. At this I felt like I was dying and my bones where just breaking my whole my body hurt forever until I was interduce to something I said I would NEVER do heroin. Within maybe 5 times of snorting it I went straight to shooting that right into my veins. After maybe a few months lost my job and started selling the dope to afford to pay for my high. Two years of selling heroin I was wired up on by a CI and I was arrested on 3 counts of dealing narcotics a level 5 felony. Served 3 in Westville prison probably best thing that could of happened to me cause without a doubt I would be dead there's no way I can even fathom another scenario. I've lost more friends than I can count to prescription pills and dope which is the same thing.

[@randyross5630]

I never Did Dope, and only a few mg of Pain Pills to clean up the Dirty Buzz of Beer Drinking, However almost everyone I knew was doing Dope by the time I bailed on the area, many had died, and it took about the Whole of my Twenties from me, because I lost everyone I knew to addiction, and not even by ODs, but just being the Odd Man Out for So Many Years, we just weren't Friends anymore...

[@rumham8124]

Trust in God and you'll never have to worry about a relapse. Glad you got out of that life, it sounds like hell! God Bless

[@undeny]

Hey man I just wanna say I'm proud of you as a fellow former addict that you beat this thing. Life is all about picking yourself up. You will make new friends. Every day forward is a victory, it's time to get ambitious and hope for the future. You can do it!

[@jefe58]

It took him 5 years to say you’re too young ?

[@romanthomas2748]

You're story is a really familiar story. I'm talking as an ex heroine and methadone and tablet addict . The withdrawals are out of this world. I know people who have killed them selves in jail coming off herion.

[@bobturner3388]

I had a great medical career before I was prescribed Opioids in 1994.for kidney stones. It took my career, my marriage and 12 yrs. of craziness before I got my life back. What bothers me most isn't that I lost my medical career, not that I lost my marriage and not that I lost 12yrs of my life. What really upset me was how the medical community looked down on me when I wanted help in getting off of this shit! Not to mention the $10,000 it cost to get my teeth straightened out related to decay caused by opioid addiction. Today I'm retired and doing well both financially and physically. Not by any help from the medical community but by the rooms of AA and NA. As I sit here typing I proudly have 17yrs sobriety as of June this year. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. These pharmaceutical companies need to pay along with our government (FDA) for allowing these abuses to continue.

[@gelonmyshit9803]

Imagine those like you who refused to take the "Vaccine" and what the Medical community did to them. Especially now, that the they are normalizing heart attacks in kids, people are dying, people are maimed and crippled and the medical machine is ignoring them

[@S.Karmamusic]

I was prescribed opioid for back injury. I was so afraid of addiction that I flushed my prescription down the toilet after being on it for 3 weeks. Regretted flushing it at one point, took the debilitating pain instead, but I lived.

[@eliquate]

I struggled with painkiller addiction my whole youth. My bottom wasn’t as low as it could have been, but I was stealing from loved ones for sure. So ashamed. That shame just feeds the addiction too. Recently I had a SEARING pain in my leg from an injury and had that little voice go “you NEED pain meds.” But I took Tylenol and it was fine. My point here is NON OPIOID PAIN MEDS WORK IF YOU ACTUALLY TRY THEM. That said, I also think there is a level of pain that Tylenol will not help, but we need to be more responsible when evaluating solutions.

[@likemy]

this video perfectly captures what made the youtube episodes better than the spotify episodes: The comments. As skilled a storyteller as Brigham is, nothing can truly capture the human impact of this crisis the way these thousands of comments have. Thanks to the people sharing their stories--our society was too late for some of your friends and family, but your stories are giving younger people the vigilance they'll need to steer clear of this stuff.

[@gxlorp]

"Made" past tense? The clips are still on KZbin which provides the same functionality. The actual medium on Spotify is the same. Play pause etc. This platform doesn't deserve high praise. They were just the first to be super successful and have advanced ai algorithms available... lots of bandwidth... but they are geopolitically implicated. Certain words and topics are banned. 20 years ago, even 3 years ago this would have been unthinkable to many reasonable people. Psychology.

[@ThatMichaelTGuy]

Well said.

[@boromirofmiddleearth557]

true

[@MikeAIright]

Andrew Yang the asian guy running for president pointed this over dose epidemic problem out years ago.

[@jzen1455]

This dude has some good points with his insider perspective of big pharma. However, the dude is also a shill for his own questionable health bro-gram.

[@Enjoymentboy]

My sister-in-law is a perfect example. She is a militant ethical vegan and suffers from malnutrition due to her diet. She went to her dr complaining about pain and was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and prescribed oxy. I've seen her in withdrawal after 3 hours since her last dose and just going into complete rages. She is utterly oblivious to her actions and just blames it on being in too much pain. After a long drive home once (3.5 hours) she was in full withdrawal and almost hysterical with her rage. When we finally got home she stormed into the house, popped 2 pills and downed them with a full can of strongbow. Within 10 minutes she was the sweetest person you could ever hope to meet. The last time I saw her she was getting 90 pills (not sure of the dose) every 14 days and would usually get a 60 day refill. The bottle was huge. If you ask her she isn't an addict and all of her problems are caused by other people.

[@wests12live]

Who’s her doctor

[@eatingelizabethsfrizbee]

Not anymore.

[@karylmorgan7320]

1. My bro in law retired as physician after 32 years in the 1990s. He decided to go to work for Merck for somethng new. Quit after 8 years and he said he would not take any meds because he learned they are all poison delivered in small doses. 2. There are a lot of articles on line about food dyes. The blue and red especially affect children. With ADHD, anxiety, OCD. Many mothers in comment section took their kids off of all candies, popsicles, etc and saw their children completely change in weeks with no food dyes. Some had ignorant teachers that were giving out the candies and they had to insist they quit giving to their child. I have friends who got their normal children back after eliminating them and giving them better diet.

[@BreeBee555]

I have RA. I was sent to pain management. I was put on a ridiculous amount of Oxy and Methadone. Which was unnecessary considering my diagnosis. I of course got addicted and it took over my life and soul. The withdrawals were pure hell emotionally and physically that I could not stop. Almost ruined my life. I am now three years sober. Every day I am grateful to be finally free from opioid prison.

[@IIXxx_juliet_xxXII]

I lost my older brother because of Oxy. He was only 43. He died days before his birthday, leaving behind 2 young sons. Thank you for exposing this evil.

[@johndemunnik2812]

Thank you for sharing, sorry for your loss.

[@tumbleweedtony1796]

😡🙏

[@progrockmorelikefrogc0ck157]

Hundreds of thousads of stories just like this yet they expected blind faith in these companies during the scam

[@antagonizerr]

My cousin took his own life because the new war on opiates meant that NO doctor would prescribe him pain killers for chronic arthritic pain instead dumping him with barely effective meds with such screwed up side effects that they were worse than the disease. The troubles go both ways bro.

[@jimmymoron944]

Sorry.....

[@Original-Juice]

My Uncle got into a bad car accident in 2002, had to get some hardware inserted into his pelvis area. It was extremely painful and he got hooked on Oxy immediately. He was such an addict that when he couldn't get any script re-filled, he bought it at street prices, then he resorted to Heroin. He overdosed and almost died in his kitchen while my sister called 911, thankfully she was nearby that day. At rehab he was coached to get off the Oxy by going to Methadone clinics. Of course at that point he become hooked on Methadone and here we are 20 years later, he's basically a vegetable. It's so saddening and our family offered so much help but it's past the point of no return. He's almost 75 and it's amazing that he's still breathing. I hate talking about the addiction he faced but it's a reality and I hope at least 1 person can read my message as a serious warning to get someone they love help.

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[@trill3vacks]

I have just been in hospital with Covid. (34 year old female) and became absolutely hooked as the answer to acute Covid pain and also my chronic pain, and I changed; I couldn’t stop asking for it- it was unbelievable it just became the motivation behind all actions the brain just tricks you that you’re still in 8/10 pain; and you become hooked. When it wears off the agony is excruciating; you then seek more for that. Luckily in Australia my doctors caught on and tapered me down and off it and I now see the problem. People are not themseleves or thinking when in it; it hijacks them and their brain. So sorry for the loss of his quality of life due to this evil (and now lyrica is no better it’s even worse as their “new safe alternative “)

[@nickpaul3623]

Thus whole country needs help. America is an addiction based country.

[@ScottProductions843]

Your right man. I've been on methadone longer than I was doing heroin and oxys. The methadone did save my life. Suboxone didn't work for me. It sucks

[@Original-Juice]

@@ScottProductions843 sounds like you were on a similar path my uncle was on. The methadone probably saved his life but there's not much value at mid 70s for him, he's been slurring his speech for over a decade now. It's amazing he's alive. Like he's pickled or something crazy Good luck to you, I'm sure you've been through a lot!

[@thatmichiganguy]

Migrated to America when I was 26 (33 now). I was shocked almost everyone I met is taking medication.. regardless of their age!

[@rubygreta1]

The drugs taken per capita in the US is off the charts.

[@mattburton3233]

this was encouraged even at the health care level. as an RN we were told to not question a persons pain level or whether they were manipulating to get more drugs. it was too ingrained that the pain level was considered another vital sign.

[@Andrewnutrition]

Joe you need to have a Lyme disease expert (IDSA) on your podcast. Millions are suffering in silence and have been IGNORED by 'mainstream medicine'.

[@pawtucketpanda]

My dad was a pharmaceutical rep from the time I was a baby til I was 14. Snooped through his phone one night and learned, in the instance he sent this text, that he was "proud that he used to manipulate doctors into selling old ladies pain pills." Apparently at some point my dad started taking pain pills on nights out and realized he was having the time of his life. He had an affair and at some point ended up addicted to oxy. He was arrested the night before my 14th birthday party for forging scripts at a local pharmacy, apparently facing a long prison sentence but got away with drug court. He lost his job and went on disability and we rarely has food in our house after that. It also seemed like, after that point, he didn't care about much besides getting high. A few years later my mom divorced him and he stopped paying the mortgage (that he couldn't afford on disability anyway.) He has smoked cigs, pills off of foil and spent most of the day nodded out for what feels like as long as I've known him. He's in congestive heart failure in his 50s and will probably die one day nodded out, alone, with a cig burning the carpet underneath him. The only one who might be around is my little brother to find his body. My message to anyone (fuck, might as well be everyone) who's struggling to push through all the bullshit life throws at you and is considering drugs for relief: I would say: consider the people around you who will be negatively affected by it like my dad's family was (and me). And if you don't have anyone like that, at least take care of yourself and consider the good things that can come in the future that those drugs will easily take away from you.

[@ambassador8524]

Wow Ty for sharing

[@jamesmayle3787]

The Bible is truth. Please read at least three books of the Bible, Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself. It is important that as you do, open your heart and forgive. That’s what makes it all click. Work though those issues with your parents. It’s important. They love you. Probably. It’s important to god at least. Forgiveness heals your soul. It’s a great thing to do for yourself. Also, break down before Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness. These four steps are important keys. Faith is actions based on belief. Please do. All who seek find. Jesus Christ is Lord.

[@user-hd8cf8bu5y]

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[@JoeMama-sy8cg]

What did mean when you said "got away with drug court"?

[@kraig6043]

@@JoeMama-sy8cg probably lesser of a punishment as apposed to criminal court. Probably more about treatment than punishment in prison. Idk 🤷

[@jkn8705]

The docuseries Painkiller does an excellent job of portraying what he's describing. Unfortunately, so many of us have been touched by opiate addiction. It's sick how one family's greed ultimately took the lives of 1000s.

[@amberowen2004]

It’s disgusting what they did, I was severely over prescribed them and it takes hold fast. I tried so several times saying “ I’ll fill one last prescription and taper off” only for it to be gone in 2 days until I finally got help. My doctor that delivered my oldest got hooked after a back surgery l, he lost everything including his marriage, his practice etc. It’s been 6 years and 3 surgeries later opioid free for me, more needs to be done to stop these criminals.

[@sherieharkins2460]

Hearing about the rep convincing doctors they had to “stop the pain” makes me think again of how often our critical thinking is hijacked by appealing to compassion.

[@ndjndxs7285]

The art of selling involves using emotions, and all species run on emotions, a decent argument on if there is a free will or not.

[@ronjones2266]

Well put.

[@IhaveaDoghouse]

@@ndjndxs7285 all species run on emotions? What is your source?

[@Jukeboksi]

Oh it doesn't stop at compassion, and oh most people aren't using critical thinking to begin with

[@rickmckee8270]

When you have chronic pain nothing will stop the pain,all you can hope for is that medications that reduce the level of pain to a more manageable level.

[@kelynopel1191]

this world is so messed up. As i become older the amount of corruption behind the scenes in all aspects of life sickens me.

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Everything you were ever taught is a lie. (besides the obvious things that science can prove; and not including religion)

[@prophecy9070]

That’s the world we live in.. everything’s a facade

[@r.m5883]

Devil is real, original sin is real. We aren’t born good, but bad. And it sickens you because you yearn for heaven and perfection.

[@PAGL2020]

I lost a loved one from opiate overdose each time I had a baby and many before and after. My children's birthdays are both the best and worst memories I have. These people were some of the most incredible people I've ever been lucky enough to know and I'll never replace them. I was prescribed painkillers for surgeries over the years and I realized how people could slide into the abyss and never claw their way out. If you've never done them, stay away. If you're addicted PLEASE TRY TO GET HELP. You can't imagine how loved you are or how heartbroken people will be when you're gone.

[@AnomolousPhiliadelphia]

I miss old school oxys so so so much

[@ronaldfauver1469]

😂

[@HeteroSkeletal]

I remember reps made a testimonial video for doctors about the wonders of OxyContin. Patients with chronic pain testified that they could go longer without having to dose and it better treated their pain. Someone tracked down every person in that testimonial and some were in prison but most were dead from overdose. Before overdosing, they lived the life and pain of classic junkies and their families endured along with them. It was so sad.

[@truthwithes6690]

Wow

[@PolishBehemoth]

Do you have a name or link for that video?

[@HeteroSkeletal]

@@PolishBehemoth type in the search on KZbin “OxyContin testimonial”

[@firstlast8258]

It’s funny asf

[@johnnieblackburn3182]

I knew someone who was on tylenol/vicodin for years. She went to her pain doctor and told him that she wanted off of the vicodin, that she did not want to be a slave to pain drugs. The doctor switched her over to oxycotin. That was 12 years ago, and she is totally dependent on pain meds. So sad what they've done, and she has fallen to this.

[@hobeone1192]

I was in a car crash at 17 years old and got permanent spine and nerve damage and they dosed me with Oxys(AT THE AGE OF 17!!) and I had a script for a few years until I turned 20 and they abruptly cut me off cold turkey, so I went to the streets to manage my chronic pain, Now I just use Kratom for pain, been over 4 years since I did any hard stuff, thing is, I was taking Opietes/Opoids for pain relief, not a high, and I realized I'm not the only one! They literally created addicts from pain patents and than blame the pain patents! Samething happened yo my dad with the VA! On a side note: I am soooo grateful for Kratom, its a lifesaver for me.

[@Godismiracles18]

What kind of kratom for the morning ? Amd or night also ? Curious for a friend thnx?

[@twigblack22]

I had foot surgery last august and was in the worst pain of my life afterwards. I was given oxy to take at home since it was a same day surgery. it ended up not being enough and had to go back to the hospital for IV painkillers then to ween off of those to just be on oxy. i guess i have a very high tolerance for pain meds. once i was able to lessen the oxy and switch to using just tyenol i felt a lot better. being on oxy and the IV pain meds was the best feeling i've ever felt and even after I no longer needed it i missed how good i felt and totally began to understand how easy it is to get hooked. i expressed these concerns to my psychiatrist and she told me to lock the oxy in a safe and give someone else the key. that's one of the best advice i've been given and I could have been in a very different place right now if i didnt start to realize what was happening. after i locked it up i thought about how good it felt every single day for a couple months. 6 months later i still think about it once and a while.

[@captaincrum1]

I have had trouble kicking Codeine for awhile....i was on Myrsondal Fourte for a knee lnjury ligament damage and such and it sneaks up on you like nothing else. Goddamn nose starts running your whole body hurts and it feels like your standing near a furnace during withdrawels. Just started watching Painkiller on Netflix....that fuck knew exactly what he was making.....these companys are a buisness not a health implementation and will fuck you over with a smile on there face. I would love to know how much they payed the fucking FDA to go 😮 years later when it was to late. People take shit like this for a legitimate reason and it ends up getting sinister....until the very thing helping you has become the void after your done with it.

[@luciusvorenus9445]

I was working in EMS when "The War on Pain" started. We were trained that pain was the "Fifth Vital Sign" after pulse, respiration, blood pressure and temperature (or skin condition). It was in all the continuing education and all publications. A patient in pain, even in a non-traumatic injury situation was considered a rapid transport to the ER situation. It was hammered into our heads during Audit & Review of Run Reports. Then the Opioid Epidemic became the focus and the Fifth Vital Sign emphasis vanish. Every patient, including ones with long term chronic pain issues were regarded with suspicion and deemed "Drug Seekers". It has been a horrific ordeal for long term chronic pain suffers. An utter mess.

[@onefishfrank9145]

Were you instructed to follow JCAHO (Joint Commission's) Pain Standards?

[@luciusvorenus9445]

@@onefishfrank9145 We followed the Written Protocols from our Medical Director as we were practicing on his Medical License.

[@NoOne-sn2si]

This is cyclical... Every 20-30 years, the prescribing of pain medication goes from geatapo tactics and no one gets prescribed pain meds, to a free for all where any ailment gets prescribed opiates. It looks like the authorities are swinging the other way now because of all the people addicted to pain meds. The pigs are happy though, as now there are many more "criminal" addicts that the pigs can make money off of now. It's completely disgusting how a medical condition is treated as a criminal issue

[@JP-ec9rl]

I'm 46 years old, in pain from wake up to sleep, wrench on big rigs every day and don't even take aspirin. Pain is a state of mind and the cure for it is motion.

[@jonathanalpart7812]

@@JP-ec9rl wow dude you figured it out! Good for you

[@KyleKendall71]

Dude...i am watching the full interview...this guy is blowing it up more than any documentary or movie. He lived it and has actual experience...this should be MUST watch for everyone, not a specific group, everyone.

[@Chkprofilename]

Lets be honest we remember this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3TJipxta5hnqLc

[@chickan10281]

Yeah. I kinda had a general idea about how corrupt it is but this is just disturbing. Makes me not trust anybody and concerned for the people. Especially after a long period of time passed after these covid vaccines

[@KyleKendall71]

@@Chkprofilename ?

[@amorgan5844]

But he is pretty misinformed, which will bite him when people watch this. He said they did not do human trials for OC which is a lie, there is a documented case study with 133 patients from 1993 to 1994 that used specifically OC and didnt "piggyback". He then stated they changed a chemical compound in hydrocdne (mispelled to keep from deleting) to make OC, that is not true either, OC was invented by adding a time release agent to oxycdne. Hydrocdne wasnt invented by Purdue pharma it was invented by knoll pharmaceutical (Abbott Laboratories). I like that he is bringing it all to the big stage, but he really needs to make sure its polished and careful not to mispeak on such an important storyline that needs to reach the masses.

[@amorgan5844]

@@KyleKendall71 also @emotional damage is a bot, dont mind him he just doing what bots do.

[@mountainbiker44]

I just had a hernia surgery about two months ago. The hospital prescribed me pain killers and other stuff. I came home after the surgery, the next few days were very painful but still I did not even open the bag full of pills I had brought home with me. I fought thorough the pain for about a week and so I think there are people with low level of pain tolerance and that’s why they easily take the pills and become addicted to them. Be strong and don’t start taking pills just because the doctors told you to take them.

[@-_-sigh]

Next time don't even pick em up from. The pharmacy dude. Good on you, though

[@louiset3438]

I hope this guy has 24 hr bodyguards, yikes!!!

[@markmiller4595]

This guy's description of being a pharma rep is spot on. The company fills its reps full of koolaid, and then the reps go out and pour it into doctors cups. What a game.

[@Ink4Breakfast]

Just like the news

[@garden0fstone736]

Must’ve been a great job

[@davidjones8043]

Nzndns

[@riothero313]

By brother is a doctor and my sister in-law is a nurse practitioner. From time to time I watch their house for them and it is absolutely insane the amount of junk mail they get from pharmaceutical companies. It's nonstop.

[@Weekenday]

My mom does this. She knows pretty much every Dr in the city and neighboring city's

[@cockashe1363]

You guys got this, proud of everyone who shared something vulnerable about their own life, keep on walking my friends the fight never ends.

[@jeffbenzos6344]

The path is always there for people to follow, no matter how many times you might fall

[@RumblesBettr]

Dont encourage weakness this is the current generations problem. Just man the F up and get on with life

[@cristiholmes4052]

Started with pain pills and then moved to heroin when they started shutting down the pain management clinics. Now I've been trying my hardest to get off of methadone after 7 years. It saved my life and I'm thankful and hate it every day.

[@terrilreece8045]

My 77 year old mother who has osteoporosis and has had 6 vertebral fractures in her back. BEFORE she could even get any pain medication she had to have an extremely painful MRI. The pain clinic has a protocol set up that way. So for 2 weeks she wasn’t given anything other than tramadol. It’s infuriating that she has to suffer needlessly because of the greed of these companies. She has had pain every day for the last 6 years and finally after her 6th fracture she can now have Percocet. It’s been torture for her. I’m thankful that the doctors don’t want her to get addicted, but at the same time she is suffering. It’s a tough situation.

[@phyaH828]

Id say this is the best episode ever. This whole episode should be played on TV nonstop for months.

[@macmoney88]

I watched that documentary he referenced. It’s very shameful that this country allows companies to operate like this

[@tumbleweedtony1796]

Now ask yourself what is really going on with fentanyl 🧐

[@robertlehman3660]

The government and big pharma are in the same bed together unfortunately.

[@jamesleigh6166]

What is the documentary. Sorry need to know

[@davelarkin8129]

The politicians get kickbacks. Money is the root of all evil. Look at Mexico and the cartels. I'm sure politicians are getting paid off by cartels to keep the border wide open

[@brosskitchens]

@@tumbleweedtony1796 Bingo. Fentynal is designed to destroy a whole generation & help with population control. The Sackler family, the Rothchilds, the Vanderbilts, the Dupont's etc etc... Their entire goal is to get the Global population down to 1 billion people. Every overdose death to them is a tiny little victory towards their ultimate goal.

[@samidan91]

I did Fentanyl for 2 days, I didn't feel any pain at all. And felt very relaxed. But that was in the hospital after they took off my kidney... Very powerful stuff I was up walking three hours after The operation.. I thought I was walking alone. But I realized now that the Lord was walking beside me all along.

[@katrooney6021]

I was addicted to vals at 16 along with other drugs I was out of control I stopped talking to my family moved out without a plan no money it just got bad to worse , I eventually went to the drs and was then put on prescription meds for depression .I got completely clean at 21 but I never really recovered my drs kept pushing antidepressants on me and sleeping tablets so I ended up going on them for roughly 7 years I was completely numb .I stopped taking them without talking to my Dr I felt like I was going to die I was having problems with my heart liver and kidneys I'm now 34 and completely off everything I'm still not right but I refuse to be pumped full of drugs , it's not normal healthy or right in anyway ..I will recover in my own time clean and hopefully become healthy again ...

[@stepford702]

When I was 30 I was hit by a drunk driver. Because my parents were addicts, I was straight edge my whole life. I discussed my parent's addition history. I told him I was worried about becoming like them. He confidently told me that since I've never taken drugs or drank I would be fine, as long as I took them exactly as directed and don't skip doses or it will make my pain come back and make the meds less affective. He assured me that I'd be fine. Then he sent me home with 4 Percocet daily and morphine twice a day, for "breakthrough pain". I trusted that doctor and he robbed me of 6 years of my life and turned me into a person who was a stranger to me. These drug companies and the doctors who push pills are evil.

[@JorgeSanchez-gh3fl]

I agree with you it’s all evil, Come to Jesus he love you and can set you free, I’m too struggling with this. This opiate epicdemic is rough. Only 17 too

[@josiecollins6690]

@sarahduropan this is the best comment I have ever read..SO TRUE!💯

[@bluedressable]

I was given Stratera when I failed the 3rd grade FCAT (standardize government test) as a child. The doctor diagnosed me with ADHD around 2004 and said this would ‘calm me down’. My hair began falling out in the top center of my head. The headaches became unbearable and I was lethargic and confused. My parents trusted in the pharmaceutical industry 100% and could not believe that pills could do that to a person. So so dangerous. The only thing that matters to that industry is money. Not your health. 😢

[@prophecy9070]

Honestly pharmaceuticals aren’t meant for long term use or used to cure anything… it’s simply a bandaid to help when shit becomes unbearable for people with life lasting illnesses/problems

[@paperdo]

Every elementary school teacher that I ever had said that I needed to be medicated. My Mom always told them to "go to hell". One of the best things that she ever did for me. She didn't give me the easy fix as a child. I had to find the discipline through life experience and learning the hard way. A lot of my weaknesses as a child are now my strengths. Having the tendency to hyper-focus can be super helpful when you are trying to get stuff done in a crunch. Everything changed for me when I realized that adhd can be a strength or weakness, its your choice.

[@probotters7427]

This is America

[@trevorcrabtree7505]

P

[@weirdflex8158]

Strattera is safe?, That's very rare and does not make it bad

[@zacdonald2795]

I've worked in pharmacy in Australia for 8 years now and am so thankful that we are so strict here. Any oxycodone higher than 5mg is mixed with naloxone and the doctors + pharmacists are tracked intensely on what they give out. Fentanyl only comes in patches like nicotine, I've only dispensed fentanyl tablets once and it took a MANY checks for it to be okay. I honestly weep for the USA and how they've poisoned their own people. I call it Opium Wars part 2, Chinas revenge.

[@clairvoyant3109]

Exactly a year ago i fell, broke my humerous and had shoulder replacement surgery. I was prescribed Percoset and gabapatin. Post surgery i had visiting nurse showing up almost daily.After a couple weeks i stopped taking all drugs because i was developing edema...in my legs....far away from the arm/shoulder injury and concluded that the edema was a side affect of the drugs. The visiting nurse was SO ANGRY with me for daring to question/challenge the prescription instructions of med 'professionals' doc and nurse.. "You can't just stop taking the meds without dictors orders".

[@Vgallo]

I had stage 4 cancer and I’d had a history of heroin addiction, I refused the morphine they offered me for a week when I was in agony, because I had tumours pushing on my spine. Going through opiate withdrawals was by far the hardest thing I’d ever been through , ( yes much much harder than stage 4 cancer) So I didn’t want to get addicted again no matter what - so they convinced me to take it by saying “ you can’t get addicted if you take it for pain”, 10 years later I’m still on suboxone after being totally clean before my cancer. Edit: Since my comment has gotten more attention than I initially predicted, I figure it’s cogent to put forward a bit more background info. There’s more below in the comments. After I finished chemo I had to return to work straight away cuz my partner got fired for taking too much time off to visit me in the icu - they told her at the time to get everything prepared cuz I probably wouldn’t make it, so spending time with me was a priority for her, she was managing all our finances - everything all by herself, we’ve never had family support, we both came from abusive homes, in many ways I think my cancer was much harder on her- in fact I’m 100% sure it was. So when I finished chemo I had to return to work to pay off the debt and prevent us from losing our car and house, I had no time to go to detox. 10 years later I still haven’t had time to take 3 months off from life, especially now that I have a disabled autistic level 2 - 3 year old son ( probably caused by the chemo I had) & a sick wife.

[@Vgallo]

@@happytobehere1111 thank you 😊

[@Lateralus665]

Congratulations, buddy. Stay safe.

[@davidkruse4030]

That was stupid. You are still on an opioid.

[@chrisbeiler7237]

Prayers

[@tammynfletcher]

Just a warning there doing the same thing with subs! I was on them for 7 years my doctor made us take the real ones and didn't allow generics. I had no insurance and didn't want to go back down the opiate road so I shelled out 1200$ a month for my script and 200$ a month cash money to the doctor. He had me on 24mg a day! Told me I was a candidate for being on them for the rest of my life. Found out later on he was getting kick backs for making sure he prescribed name brand only. Anyway my doctor got terminal cancer and closed his clinic with 2 weeks notice, every clinic around was full I got my last prescription and tried to ween myself down for 2 months I got down to 16mg a day and figured I would just man up and go cold turkey, I done it with oxys and heroin twice before. It's taken almost 1.5 years to feel normal again. Granted as normal as a 45 year old recovering alcoholic and junkie can feel LOL! Subs get into your bones my friend it was the worst withdrawal I'd ever been through and whatever it does to your brain chemistry is crazy! I'm sure you've already had" the I don't give a "!@#$%"'s , they seem to take all your emotions and hide them! Sorry to make a short comment long but when I seen how long you'd been on them I know what your in for when you do have to get off them! They did keep me from using drugs so they have a purpose. But in my personal opinion they need to be used as designed 28 day opiate withdrawal!

[@alexdel-toro323]

I had collar bone surgery from a motor bike accident and wouldn’t take any pain meds because my best friend was hooked and passed from counterfeits. And I never want my family of friends to lose me in such a way. He was such a good guy and they just took him.

[@edgarfc1916]

What are the odds the same thing happened to me down to the collar bone… small world

[@Ayyaz711]

Smart guy

[@ashleyhargreaves9653]

I’ve been on these oxys for nearly 8 months now , due to cancer pain , they help me get through each day but trying to get off of these things is terrible . I am truly addicted to these things and there destroying me and my life

[@Jay-ml9qs]

My first clerkship out of law school was working for the city of Cleveland vs purdue and would just spend days going through police reports of people overdosing in Burger King bathrooms etc. horrible. A bunch of cities basically sued purdue for compensation for ambulances and hospitals etc. I was a very small part of the discovery process but I believe purdue settled for like 5 billion

[@scottoshea9440]

You didn't need to grind up Oxycontin for it to be extremely addictive. With that said, if doctors simply weened people off addictive medications there wouldn't have been a problem. Instead, after the feds threatened doctors they immediately yanked everyone's prescriptions abruptly, which was arguably even worse than writing the prescriptions to begin with

[@digzat]

Indeed.

[@calliew311]

And doctors that did try to ween patients off, took too much off, each script. people need to take like 90% of meds for 6 weeks or more than 90% of that for 6 or more weeks, then 90 of that, on down. doctors wanted to go from 90 to 60 to 30 to none. that's not how it works it you want to be successful AND actually keep a patient out of withdrawals.

[@izzydeadyet7336]

@@calliew311 does that mean you should not reduce more than 10% at a time then wait a month or more before reducing another 10%? I've been trying to get off my pill of choice for the past 3 years..I did it twice but the last time I weaned myself down to a crumb of suboxone and decided I was gunna jump off and just detox at home.. it took 6 weeks of agony and it just wouldnt stop .. I was in regular contact with my clinic but all they suggested was more drugs which I was againsed.. after all the suffering from a single pillbibwas afraid of all these drugs they were trying to push at me

[@haroldbailey9011]

@@izzydeadyet7336 what’s your pill of choice. I have a website for you that gives you a lot of good suggestions for comfortable withdrawal. The hardest part is living life on life’s terms. Meaning, just feeling normal feelings. But first things first, what’s your pill of choice

[@izzydeadyet7336]

@@haroldbailey9011 hydromorphone.. it's been 18 years that's the only drug I'm still stick with

[@JP-vx2sr]

Its bizarre for the majority of these people to pretend no one knew opiates were addictive. Doctors, patients, regulators knew it. Then everyone pretended it was a surprise

[@robertgituhu9975]

True. Money will turn good people.

[@richardmaier28]

exactly,a lotta people don't know they actually had a 160mg oxycontin pill which was pulled,almost 700 mg a day qid.EVERYONE knew percocet was addictive before they layered it.Blame yourself people(and you never told the doctor this isn't a good thing,right?)smh

[@kratomEDU]

Not only that but throughout history they're safe but people dont listen and mix them with other substances. This "Epidemic" is pushed to distract you from alcohol and tobacco. The REAL killers.

[@Ryan88881]

Exactly. Fuck this argument about the drug companies lying. It was never a believable lie in the first place. What kind of amateur doctors are these

[@user-cg7dg7uv8f]

Just like how they all pretended the covid jab was safe and effective. Lots of surprised pikachu faces yet to come with that one......

[@hollywood21639]

Drs should be held accountable. My mother was prescribed fentanyl pain patches for over 10 years. She didn't OD but it definitely shortened her life.

[@johnstevens9673]

I was in that settlement and the judge approved it but many states rejected the part that kept them free of criminal prosecution and is lost in apoeal after appeal. Meanwhile, all the people that suffered and lost from oxycontin still haven't received a single dollar from the Sackler family. They still have their billions and still living the life of luxury. Its a really sad state. The case will most likely be lost in appeal hell for many, many years and the ultimate end outcome will probably be the case is thrown out and start over. All the people and families that suffered beyond belief haven't received any compensation because the state and county governments want all or most of the money in any settlement if there ever is one.

[@mother8696]

I’m part of that case…never seen a dime and hear nothing from the lawyer…I see your post is a year old

[@debbylou5729]

I worked at a cardiology office. I was so proud to work with these people. Our office had 12 doctors and NONE of them met with drug reps. We were a magnet because of the number of signatures the reps could get at one stop. The docs would sign for samples and that was it. When lunch was provided they wouldn’t even go into the conference room. They wouldn’t take a bite, drink or taste. In fact one doc wouldn’t even sign and if a rep asked, he would be told to leave….immediately. It was a great place to work

[@Kdramahotgist]

Check out the page on my name he got psych products and ships discreetly

[@IFBBProYeo]

That's amazing!!

[@xGSxAmAZyn]

That is some Marcus Aurelius stuff right there

[@runeplate123]

They were just doing their job if you didn’t want it then they should of gotten the hint!

[@Natalie-rl7dq]

I briefly interned at Purdue Pharma in the early 2000's during the investigation and literally sat in on a company-wide meeting trying to sell to us the idea that the patients were mentally addicted and not physically addicted to the drug. This was when they were still Rx'ing 100mg pills. It was disgusting. The stories of the families that were being affected were / are so sad and tragic!

[@robsmith9093]

Q.a

[@terywetherlow7970]

I could not EVER participate in bringing misery to another to make a buck. How have the Sackler's not had RICO act used against them?

[@bigroaststyrone8135]

@@terywetherlow7970 come on, you know why lol

[@chairmanmeow8481]

I could. Depends on the pay

[@calebdixon784]

@@terywetherlow7970 lool the fact you said this while being In NA is funny money family class pay too win age and race all matter being rich means slaps on the wrist connections etc corruption aswell

[@nohandle62]

My older brother died as a result of his addiction. It destroyed his liver and heart. Now the pendulum on treating pain has swung the other way and hospitals and doctors are refusing to properly treat pain. Disgusting malpractice.

[@Blu3P0rc3l41n]

When I was in my early 20s I did tech support for pharma reps. I learned a lot about the industry and the innerworkings this guy is speaking of. It's disgusting when you realize this business is based on soley profit, not healthcare.

[@frankr2584]

Ridiculous statement. next time your body breaks down. Don't go to the doctor or the dentist.

[@Blu3P0rc3l41n]

@@frankr2584 I think you missed the point. It's hard not to realize the for-profit of healthcare. You are either in denial or have little knowledge of how it works.

[@bluecomet1109]

No shit sherlock

[@reglagirl5802]

This is why I read the comments I feel like I get the real information here and then can make my own decision about the topic but I’ve heard from real people when I read the comments

[@reglagirl5802]

Kids in helmets😅

[@lorieverhart5184]

A huge contributor to the pain pill saga was when an internist in CA was sued for refusing more pain medicine for a patient, and he lost. Every solid physician then had to worry that the same thing could happen to them. I think it was in the early nineties that it happened.

[@tularem]

Just like now and the baccine... any doctor who wanted/wants to wait for more data... sued out of his practice or gets shut down by the government. It blows my mind people can't see the connections between pharma companies and opioids, and pharma companies and the baccine

[@dubkatmtl]

I got prescribed oxy once after a bad accident and then later asked them to write on my medical records that I'm allergic to opiates. I've experimented with almost everything and that was without a doubt the best I've ever felt from a drug.

[@samisaac-kk6en]

Dude! you great guy and I appreciate the activism you are doing for the sufferers and rest of us. Loss of your brother can not be undone now but advocating the sufferers will appreciate your work. thank you and JR is only free media now in America very much.

[@Porcelaindoll1028]

I sponsor many former addicts. Every single one of their stories started from an accident or surgery where they needed pain meds. This stuff is addictive and instead of weaning them off the meds they cut them off cold turkey with prescription so then folks went to the streets. Sickening

[@Porcelaindoll1028]

I was in an accident and broke my leg. I did refuse the oxy despite everyone telling me to do it. My only response is that the moment I take that Pill, i just signed my own death certificate. I think I was yelling to not give me fentanyl either. Imagine being in trauma screaming to not give me either. This stuff is death ☠️. Shame on those who put profit over lives.

[@MatarikiAzul]

Drs absolutely caused the " opioid crisis" they got everyonr hooked with no plans to get off or wean at a tolerable rate. Cutting ppl off cold turkey puts ppl in distress. Ive seen it happen. Its not addicts causing a crisis. Its drs causing addicts.....

[@thedevilsadvocate5210]

There were plenty of people that never took any pain pills and got hooked on smack.

[@Porcelaindoll1028]

@@thedevilsadvocate5210 I agree but a great amount of heroin addicts have come from people being cut off from pain management. The opioid epidemic is happening due to greedy pharmaceuticals companies, doctor who have broken the hypocratic oath and insurance companies. Yea there are folks who had got hooked due to peer pressure, curiosity. Ur majority of the cases here in the states it started from pain management.

[@thedevilsadvocate5210]

@@Porcelaindoll1028 Sure I just think if you blame the doctors they won't give pain meds to anyone. Sometimes you need some pain meds.

[@laylawarsamefit8728]

Few years back I had a major surgery and my doctor prescribed OxyContin. At that time I didn’t know anything about opioids, and how addictive they are. Luckily I lived in the Netherlands so I got only 7 of them, every 24hrs one for 7 days. After that no supply. All I remember is that after taking them I didn’t experience the intense pain of the surgery & I was able to sleep. I wonder what would happened if I was in the USA and got bunch of them from my doctor, probably would ended bad. So grateful to be in a country that is responsible with these medications. I feel for the people who didn’t had that protection from their doctors.

[@alabamagirl2725]

24 years ago I was living in southwest Florida. I got a tooth pulled. I was prescribed 60. I asked if it was necessary since I refuse to take pain medication. I got my prescription and took Tylenol instead. The next day I was fine. I ended up giving them to my Daddy. A month ago I stopped taking my blood pressure medicine. 4 pills a day. I feel so much better now and I'm 55.

[@user-wf4el1gx3n]

Effectively regulating markets is an imperfect science, can’t live with it, can’t live without it. One of the better interviews I’ve seen.

[@TheGreenNewSteal2025]

This guy is extremely well spoken and educational. I would like to hear more from him.

[@ht1863]

That’s what made him a great sales rep for the shady Sackler family.

[@cooganbeggs4942]

So because he’s well spoken you’d like to hear more from the guy that’s responsible for this shitfight?

[@Skeptic-lc6us]

Your comment sounds like a robot wrote it

[@TheGreenNewSteal2025]

@@Skeptic-lc6us bite my shiny metal ass lol

[@irenehansen9366]

LMAO, he is an idiot. ADHD 20,000 expense account. HE NOW GETS A CONSCIENCE WHO PAID HIM TO SAY ALL THIS CRAP CDC MAYBE PROP? lets find out!!! DONT PUNISH PAIN PATIENTS!!!

[@TabithaDavis]

And this is why, even as a nurse in the health care field I believe natural remedies and healing are the better option when APPROPRIATE.

[@carloselizondo7671]

Asia has that, not USA.

[@31chase92]

@Busy Bee Farms opium has been used for thousands of years. What’s your point?

[@iGNiTETheKiD]

Kratom

[@lamppuu1]

I appreciate it! I wish there was also doctors like that.. and more nurses like you. Thank you!

[@valleytothebay4891]

@Busy Bee Farms that’s also why tons of people have passed away from minor things that could be treated

[@ErranP]

really look forward for this podcast! you are Gre Mr Rogan

[@andrea4246]

Great interview. Thanks for the facts.

[@ross-id5fj]

when I was in elementary my mother taught me my basic addition and subtraction so I was ahead of my class, finish my work early, and talk to my classmates my teacher got fed up and one day had a parent teacher meeting. They said I had adhd and told my mother if I wasn’t on medication they were gonna call CPS. Little did they know my mother worked for a social behavior clinic and knew they couldn’t do anything legally. She told them to go ahead and call CPS because she wasn’t going to put her son on addictive medication at 5 years old. My mom told me a lot of these kids get addicted at a young age because most of their parents are immigrants and whenever CPS is mentioned they’re willing to comply. Don’t assume because someone is educated or works in a certain field means they have what’s best in mind for YOU

[@alberteinstein3078]

Most addicted people are not immigrants! You're basing things off your one time experience for the entire country. It has nothing to do with immigrants they push that stuff on every type of family ethnicity and race.

[@newusernamehere4772]

@@alberteinstein3078 I think the point was it can be easier to get tricked by the system if you're from somewhere else, not that immigrants are the only ones being targeted or the only ones falling for it lol

[@il-conte]

That is fucked up on so many levels. Think the amount of kids turned into vegetables because the teachers couldn't bother to deal with high amounts of energy. My theory is that if kids are bursting with energy they need to exercise more.

[@keepinitreal7093]

I never get sick of watching Joe’s pod cast

[@battlebreakdown3972]

It’s a bad addiction

[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@yoshzlac2429]

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[@OmogeVblogTV]

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[@TjTj74]

I do.I felt 'physically' sick when he gave AI Zuckerberg an easy ride recently

[@deanmignonelli9316]

painkiller brought me here

[@babygrrl042]

Great interview

[@jamie-r2034]

I was prescribed to oxys. My "doctors" were giving out Oxys like candy & then when addicted they prescribed suboxone!! These doctors made so much money, they got hooked on the cash. My one doctor cost me $600 cash every month & my monthly appt was 10 mins long. Say the doctor saw 3 patients per hour/8 hr days - that's over $14k a day!

[@izzydeadyet7336]

Yup theyd rather take you off one drug and replace it with 8 different ones! When I was trying to get off suboxone and I was calling the clinic suffering, their only solution was more drugs! She was trying to give me an anti depressant a few weeks ago, I'm like hey, I'm here to get off drugs remember? Ha~ I'm convinced all doctors are just glorified drug peddlers

[@valleytothebay4891]

I don’t know if this state wide or country wide, but every city I’ve gone to in California has addicts nodding out in public or using in public, the restrooms in restaurants have password locked doors so only an employee can let you in to them due to people using in restrooms and overdosing. When I was 19 I was introduced to PK’s after getting shot, 10mg norcos 2 times a day, doctor got shut down for being a pill mill. Since then 3 separate pain management clinics have opened in my town all shut down for being a pill mill, they aren’t messing around with that stuff anymore. Doctors are hesitant to prescribe me anything now especially since I’m still young even though I have bad nerve damage. The higher ups aren’t perfect and they’re corrupt but they’re actually trying to do something about it now, there’s a reason why you need to show ID when you pick up a prescription

[@1BobTheSubGenius]

I feel the same, we spend a lot's of money to get a pill to help you, but in reality they just a legal drug dealers

[@DollfaceKim]

OMG, it sounds like one of my doctor's (he still exists but only takes cash, $600) prescribed me Ms contin, Dilaudid, nucynta.

[@katiekane5247]

@@1BobTheSubGenius and now they have a new drug to ease withdrawal. It's $4K for a 16 day treatment.