Former Post Office executive under pressure at inquiry

Former Post Office executive Angela van den Bogerd faced questions from Jason Beer KC as part of the ongoing inquiry into the Horizon system scandal.
In particular, questions focused on emails sent to Ms van der Bogerd, including some outlining Fujitsu's ability to remotely access the accounts of sub-postmasters without their knowledge.
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[@JohnJones-wo1bc]

Someone was driving the bus, and someone set the culture. But, all we hear is collective amnesia. Disgraceful.........

[@hectorbartlett567]

Lock her up and throw away the key .... NOW!

[@nbbim2012]

She did NOT apologise - change the title. In an apology, the perpetrator takes responsibility for the fact that they have caused the damage

[@T5Zplayer]

Watched some of it. Insincere and dishonest. But highlights a problem we have in this country. Too many execs overpaid and crap at the job.

[@fireskycam9889]

It has become highly apparent that every Executive of the Post Office was totally incompetent. Either that or they had no integrity at all. Which one is it?

[@T5Zplayer]

@@fireskycam9889 Both

[@FUJITRACK10]

Sorry my arse she is only sorry she got called back

[@RickPeake01]

She.... clearly was fully informed throughout.

[@nbbim2012]

And she just didn't & doesn't care because she progressed in her career & made significant amounts of money

[@RickPeake01]

@@nbbim2012 correct answer. ✅

[@fireskycam9889]

It has become highly apparent that every Executive of the Post Office was totally incompetent. Either that or they had no integrity at all. Which one is it?

[@SjplayinCODMO]

Sorry for devastation caused,not"devistation I caused ".....This no apology!

[@stephenlevett1978]

She was happy to rattle off enough other names to try and blame them and not herself. Favorite question from Jason Beer was when he asked her what it was she did there.

[@JuliePayne]

Jason Beer is great! So calm

[@CatholicSatan]

There needs to be a warning on all Post Office job applications forms: "Warning! Working for the Post Office can severely affect your memory." Same goes for Fujitsu job applications I suspect.

[@MATT-dw3lu]

This needs to be in a court

[@oorwulliesbucket]

APOLOGY MY ARSE !!

[@gherkamum]

They know it was all wrong but did nothing, fake apologies, still no empathy or shame…..They all look guilty…..All covering their own backs….Prison.

[@Captain_Aardvark]

There needs to also be an inquiry into executive pay. That so many senior figures on obscene salaries seem to "forget", "be unaware of", and have "no knowledge of" key points would suggest there is a serious problem. Either these huge salaries are NOT getting the best people as the ideology would have us believe, or once in the job they're so well-rewarded regardless that they have no incentive to make any effort at all.

[@oldswede9307]

They are always sorry when they get caught, not before

[@richardharkness9427]

Sorry is not enough. If there's evidence it should be used in evidence against her.

[@Dooguk]

The face on that woman in the background at the end when she realises she's on TV. 😂

[@Jinxy44]

That’s the problem with these people in charge of large organisations - they lose their humanity for their bank balances. Pathetic apology and worth nothing for all the years of pain she caused. 🤮

[@tonyknight9912]

Too little, too late !

[@SjplayinCODMO]

Not enough for those who C.S to R.I.P. ....❤

[@monkeyboy8424]

Never underestimate the extent of post office/government lies, subterfuge and dark methods to cover-up their gross negligence.

[@PatMcPoyle]

Quick shoutout to the coffee lady at 2:30

[@kennethatkins9250]

Funny how their memories now seem so vague ! Don't suppose they have been tutored by their own legal advisers on how to squeeze under the allegations ? The whole country can see through it . and I suspect that the judges and barristers will too .

[@TrevorByng]

Cannot read / recall multiple emails and cannot accept any responsibility. Constantly tripped up by the brilliant Jason Beer.

[@tanjee2698]

She was aware of remote access in Oktober 2010 on hand of the first email she had received where it was raised as a suspicion, in December 2010 she received the email conforming and in full knowledge of the remote access and sent another email to Ron and Mark with instructions (today she couldn't recall that or why she formulated that message. *her credibility was down the drain at that point* In 2013 she was part of a questioning of a subPM all whilst knowing said issue. In her statement prior for this ongoing enquiry she said she knew about it for the first time in 2018. She got called out on it by her own emails and meeting records. She's DONE!! Ready for the next round 'ding-ding'!

[@marktrimming6925]

Should face justice in balance to the injustice she over saw. Perhaps even prison , like innocent sub postmasters….

[@rhodaborrecks]

She's a liar through and through. Deeply horrible person. If she doesn't get some prison time for this at some point, then there is no justice. I honestly don't know how she sleeps.

[@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt]

Uk has NO Justice…. All fake

[@andrewgamble5332]

Another amnesiac.Seen it all before .Seems no one has any responsibility.Only the shortage of shredders means they may be held to account.Scotty had it all sorted but didn't get round to issuing the " shred everything" order.

[@dalyanjewel]

Why are Fujitsu not on trial

[@flabbybum9562]

Yes, in order to be discussing ways around a problem, they must have known there was a problem there.

[@sphinx1017]

Let me guess, she can't recall and it wasn't her responsibility anyway.

[@mcribprime6594]

She has zero morality

[@owenfarmer8018]

None of the execs remember anything

[@Barry-tl3ru]

Jail the bag.

[@Jez-Hero24]

She could remember everybody else's part and what they did, but for the life of her couldn't recall what she did or didn't do as the driver of an Orwellian culture. The spirit of sturgeon is strong with this odious life wrecker.

[@michaelmouse4024]

She thought her email trail was forgotten, that the PO would protect her & can't quite believe she's in the dock.

[@user-js3rg9sj1k]

Oh I forgot....where my house is!😊😊😂😂😊😊😊

[@cherylsemrau7100]

I watched this story on Masterpiece on PBS. The post office devastated people. They should be charged and put in prison for the devastation of the post masters.

[@garyh5541]

This was not an Apology! They were lies!!!

These people knew what the company line was, implemented it, cover up to maintain it, and this is how they maintained and improved their career there. They must have known that questioning or drawing attention especially in writing to the Horizon problems would be a career ending move.

[@vincentburrowes9243]

Managerial Amnesia - there will be a long queue of former Post Office managers engaging the medical profession of Great Britain for a cure to this unique affliction!

[@user-ux4km9uy8v]

i don't know i can't remember and i did nothing wrong ,is this what these people were paid big salaries for .They are a shameless bunch of crooks

[@nigeladams8508]

😂😂turning into a joke, first off say sorry, then go to answer is can’t remember

[@wildandbarefoot]

What a nice lady. So genuine, open, honest, and ready to go out of her way to atone.

[@fireskycam9889]

It has become highly apparent that every Executive of the Post Office was totally incompetent. Either that or they had no integrity at all. Which one is it?

[@DigitalPerspectivesUK]

Gareth Jenkins, chief IT architect at Fuj is one of only two people involved in the POscandal facing possible legal consequences, as the Met Police investigate him for potential perjury.21 Mar 2024 The technology expert who built the faulty Horizon IT system is understood to want immunity before appearing at a public inquiry. Gareth Jenkins, 69, previously gave evidence saying the Fujitsu system was 'not corrupt'

[@camf7522]

More like a written statement, less apology.

[@antoninbesse795]

Disingenuous, dishonest and disrespectful. She’s sorry for being found out, not for what she did. Needs to be punished, together with her dreadful boss and all those who were in a position of responsibility and let this happen through ignorance, incompetence or callousness.

[@keithbuckley3220]

She hid the reality of the Horizon problems and blamed the people she should have aided - "WHAT A WONDERFUL BOSS SHE WASN'T" - and she hid it for so long.

[@seanmcgarrigan3942]

That sounds like a Boris apology, in many of his whitewashings whoops inquiries

[@joanneramsden1514]

Bogerd is using the same tactics as other post office management and of course the continues phrase (I don't recall)

[@richardwilson2574]

It’s not an apology- it’s an attempt to show remorse in order to get a lighter sentence……should further charges be brought.

[@ritab8663]

She even had to read that from a script and it was not heartfelt.. it was coldly narrated. Appears to have no remorse whatsoever for the deaths and convictions and mayhem to peoples lives as not only dud it affect the postmasters it affected their loved ones

[@nigelalanwood6781]

Record sales must be low, how long has Duffy been reading the news on sky. At least its a improvement from kay burley.

[@DavidPatersonPortraits]

I can't remember when I've heard someone lie like this.

[@debibuxton1335]

As I said to another commentor..she's an award winner in terms of lying..at least she's consistent ..probably the only truthful statement would be to state her name

[@alanrogers9597]

I watched her squirm under questioning, wringing her hands and fiddling with her specs, she knows loads but PO solicitors have gagged her right up !!!

[@debibuxton1335]

I would also like to comment on the sub post mastters and other PO staff who were at that enqiry and had to listen to the ongoing lies lies and more lies and managed to stay silent in their seats. That to me is legendary self control. I hope at the end of the day they are recompensed..but nothing can bring back the years and people lost to them.❤

[@applepie8772]

To little to late and does not negate responsibility and criminal liability

[@stuart7245]

She knew what was going on. Either incompetent or a liar. Whatever it is she is culpable.

[@tomhenry897]

Why isn’t she in jail for falsely accusing people of theft

[@julian987r4]

She, as do they all, have blood on their hands.

[@mikejames4540]

She was sorry. But it was nothing to do with her… She squirmed at a few points. But there was no apology.

[@MrTaffjock]

How many????said It wasn't me gov

[@HAIS-hr3lz]

She's only sorry she has been called to account.

[@peterknight6535]

She is truly sorry --- yeah, sorry she has been caught out.

[@arlenreinstein9907]

Air mail to jail!😂

[@freddiefreeman4119]

Why isn’t someone in prison for this, so many lives ruined

[@raskinman]

If the Devil ever had a human face then it is safe to say that this would be it

[@kevinbaxter7390]

SEEMS TO MESELF DAY 1 Off Enquiry! Simply pointless start of proceedings to Swear on thee book 📖

[@nadenconjamalay8702]

What the hell is the police waiting for to start investigating these idiots? 🇬🇧

[@JackKing12.]

Dead words coming out her mouth. '...don't remember, cant recall...' All BS... She should go to prison.

[@cndns2]

These entitled control freaks need a course in humility through jail time.

[@phillipwatson9906]

DEI and ESG does not work obviously

[@PopPo-zh9up]

#coffee 02:30

[@brianjacobs1232]

Lies all the way

[@johncraig5647]

Jail her

[@derekdee9592]

No she didn’t apologise blank minds waffle squirm denying it ever happened !

[@arlenreinstein9907]

An evil machine needs banal efficient cogs to succeed

[@erikskalnins895]

Truly pathetic

[@shieldaigbencher]

Yet another Post Office liar in the queue for prison.

[@anthonyroxby9093]

Don't listen to a word of her apologies, the only thing this creep is sorry about is the fact shes been caught.

[@DigitalPerspectivesUK]

Judge Peter Fraser criticised Van De Bogherd her testimony and said she "did not give me frank evidence, and sought to obfuscate matters, and mislead me". Beer KC, lead counsel to the inquiry, challenged Ms van den Bogerd's opening statement, as he accused her of not saying sorry for her own role in the scandal… The actions and motives were to save money and for personal gain in the way of significant benefits & bonus pay outs!!! Not to protect the brand.., it was to protect shareholders and save the business from going bankrupt!!

[@keith8609]

Don't believe her at all she is just trying to save her own skin

[@paulbraine674]

Go to Pakistan then if your not happy I’ll pay

[@ghayasmuhammad2836]

Stop supporting Israel

[@Cepheidvariable]

Awwwwww. An apology. Wow.

[@dogzero1]

Just watched the whole enquiry today. She is a liar and it shows. Selective amnesia and no thoughts for the lives she helped ruin. I want to see her jailed and he post office pension removed

[@laurencefox5884]

Should be in prison...