Formula 1 - All Time Drivers' Points using the 25 Pts and Fastest Lap Scoring System

[@TheDataDudesF1]

Thank you all so much for your comments and suggestions! We've made a video just like you asked with the average points per race, check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWjXq6adotObj5Y&ab_channel=TheDataDudes

[@multikannan100]

give facts not fictions avg points will turn out very high if you compare the last 10 years to the previous 10 years because the points given now are for the top 10 whereas it was only till the 6th place & much lesser no of points almost more than half less during Schumacher's time

[@jakemaattanen]

Yes, avg points should be calculated from like points are in this video 👍

[@gussay]

to be properly fair... you need to factor in the number of races per year that the drivers were able race. F1 history has consisted of between 7 and 22 Grands Prix

[@AaaBbb-ff1pn]

​​@@gussayexactly ... take the total points of every season and distribuite to drivers in percentage. this give equal points to every years,not counting the number of races

[@findingandvalue]

CAn you add 2023 and do it again in 2024?

[@hotice88uk]

The moment I saw Fisichella pass Jim Clark was the moment I realised the extent to which career longevity is the main contributing factor in these numbers - I'd be much more interested to see this data indexed against each driver's total number of races.

[@Astro_Gardener]

Then they would have a point average per race, that might see who has been the best over the years?

[@simtekgroup3080]

Came here to say that, nothing against the guy, but Fisichella ahead of Clark and Fangio is a bit…weird 😂

[@arnaudj.5314]

Yeah career longevity AND total number of races per season. I love these videos but we still haven't seen the most accurate representation possible yet

[@duxandrespasha]

Myself too. Also I know Indy was championship but it messes things up.

[@rkentwenger5095]

Fangio is still by far the best on a per-race basis (I've never seen the calculations by points, but he's #1 per race for wins, poles, and fastest laps...).

[@karlhulme8014]

My personal winner is the driver who stopped mid conversation with his team during a race practice session and beckoned over a shy 10 year old boy to say hello and give an autograph … the boy was me…the driver Jackie Stewart.

[@moongate31]

Sir Jackie is by far my favorite F1 driver of all time as well as the reason I became an F1 fan in the first place. I remember watching him in the early 70s, especially in the Monaco GP. Besides his racing success, perhaps his greater contribution to F1 was improving safety and medical support at the racetrack. He still has the best tag line ever in F1 (said in his high-pitched Scottish burr): "It's a grrreat day for motorrr racing"

[@JakobusVdL]

When it comes to lifetime achievement Stewart leaves them all far behind. And he's still going strong!

[@randomdaveUK]

He's a class act no doubt about it

[@adrianopimenta5523]

So sad seeing Senna's counting stopping when we know he could have done much more.

[@gemellimusic931]

So sad that Clark hadn't a bit enough to overtake Fangio

[@eduardosantana8300]

I think we can all see and agree from this video that Hamilton is the GOAT and barrichello is the greatest Brazilian driver of all time.

[@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775]

@@eduardosantana8300 cara, pontuação não diz respeito a habilidade ou performance. A diferença da quantidade de corridas por ano da época do Emerson pra hoje é gritante então é óbvio que o rubinho vai ter mais pontos, ele participou de mais de 300 corridas, não tem como vc não pontuar o suficiente correndo mais de 300 corridas

[@adrianopimenta5523]

@@eduardosantana8300, by using this criterion (i.e. points), yes. But there is so much more than points when ranking F1 pilots. As much as I think Barrichello was a great F1 driver (and he definitely was!), saying that he had done better than Senna, Piquet and Fittipaldi sound like a joke.

[@eduardosantana8300]

@@roymcgaw7431 I’m being completely sarcastic about everything.

[@r.dekker858]

nice list! Still, in the past there were far fewer races. I know it would be near impossible to "calculate" this correctly but I'm sure some "oldies" would end up a lot higher in the ranks.

[@ronintje7647]

You could make it a "per race" list. Curious what that would look like, but that would probably also be unfair at some points. Bet the USA racers who only drove Indy500 during those 10 years it counted towards F1 would dominate the ranking then despite only driving a few races.

[@christopherbiomass7155]

It would be easy to weight the points. Come up with.a 'standard' number of races per year, then adjust the points from this video up (or down) based on the number of races in that year. If you take 23 as the standard, then the races in 2022 would be 1:1, and a race win would be 25 points. A race win from 2012 (a 20 race season) would be worth 28.75. The points awarded would have the formula = points from this vid * (standard number races per year / number of races that year).

[@TheDataDudesF1]

There is still a way to find a more balanced list though. We are working on it!

[@xMrManu]

@@TheDataDudesF1 what I was thinking was by percentage in the season (ex. in a 14-race season the maximum points would be 25x14 + 14 for the fastest lap), one could try and calculate how many points from the possible total a driver scored

[@r.dekker858]

@@TheDataDudesF1 thanks, appreciate your efforts :)

[@chanelboucher]

You should also find a way to normalize for the number of races per season. In the fifties, Fangio only had about 7 races a season, today they get 22!! Fangio remains the one with the highest average wins (45%), Won on 4 different teams (Maserati, Ferrari, Mercedes and Alfa). Started his career at 40 yrs old. Had but a single racing accident (he had driven himself from Silverstone to Monza and just made he start of the race from last on the grid).

[@timonsolus]

That’s why ‘win percentage’ is the ultimate F1 stat. The theoretical goal of every F1 driver is to win every single F1 race that he competes in. That would be a 100% win percentage. Juan Manuel Fangio has come closer to achieving that goal than any other F1 driver, since he has won 46.16% of the F1 races that he competed in (24 wins out of 52 races). Alberto Ascari is 2nd, with a win percentage of 40.6% (13 wins out of 32 races). And Jim Clark is 3rd, with a win percentage of 34.7% (25 wins out of 72 races). So these are the 3 most successful F1 drivers of all time. Lewis Hamilton is in 4th position with a win percentage of 33.2% (103 wins out of 310 races). (Note: It’s best to ignore the win percentage of any driver with fewer than 20 races, as any figure of less than 20 is insufficient for a meaningful statistical sample.)

[@oslinthompson8182]

That crossed my mind whilst watching the video. Additionally, perhaps only include races that they finished. It's different eras and different cars, but interesting nonetheless.

[@chriskostopoulos8142]

Your average wins would work except modern F1 isn't competitive, in the last 20 odd years it has been dominated to death by one car or the other. First Ferrari, Redbull, Mercedes and now Redbull again. Makes their drivers look better than they perhaps are. Most fans are too stupid to see this obvious issue and think that their manufacturers driver is the greatest ever. E.G. #blessed in the Mercedes.

[@timonsolus]

@@oslinthompson8182 : No, I would include races that the drivers don’t finish. It’s part of the driver’s job to avoid all accidents (even ones that aren’t their fault), and also to look after the car’s machinery so that it doesn’t break down during the race.

[@timonsolus]

@@chriskostopoulos8142 : Yes, in the old days of unlimited testing, teams would still sometimes create dominant cars, but they would only be dominant for 1 season, or at most 2 seasons, before another team built a better car. Mind you, looking back before F1, look up the 1936-1939 Grand Prix seasons - totally dominated by the German Auto Union and Mercedes-Benz teams. They completely destroyed the opposition.

[@tompw3141]

Fangio spent *sixty years* in the top list on-screen. Legend.

[@Roguescienceguy]

The fact that Alain Prost is still in sixth while being an eighties Icon tells a lot about the man's career.

[@daisyleedham2275]

The fact that Fangio was still on the list 60 years on since his last season I find the most impressive

[@dmytrothecat8317]

@sylvano81OM that's why Fangio has 24 wins in 52 starts

[@leftmono1016]

It’s why Senna called Prost a coward for vetoing serious driver team mates. Not saying I agree, but Senna said it in an interview.

[@iblard]

The fact that the video uses the same point system for everyone makes the time the pilot competed totally irrelevant. Prost would be in the list if he made the same number of points during the 50s than during the 2010s.

[@AAC42069]

​@@iblard But you forget that there where significantly less races in a season compared to today

[@ZuluRomeo]

Most telling of all is how close Rubens Barrichello and Ayrton Senna ended up. One driver once held the longevity record for most Grands Prix while always playing second best to his team mate, and the other of course burned brightly and ever so short.

[@theINQBS]

Ruby was MUCH better than his record states and had it not been for team intervention he'd have at least one title over Michael on merit. He was that damn brilliantly good. I hate when people talk smack about Rubens. He's an all-time great and deserves respect.

[@wesleyaprigio2853]

@@theINQBS YESSS!!!!

[@rhayadervidra6903]

Reutemann was the largest surprise in that in the early 80s. Never knew he was that good.

[@np4029]

He was the David Coulthard of his era.

[@philipking7559]

I scrolled down to see if anyone else had said this, yeah didn't expect him to be anywhere near the top at any time.

[@TheKentaurion]

Reutemann and Hulme was the only names I never heard of before. Seven of these guys are still driving, so there will be changes if the list would be updated as for 2024.

[@metacosmos]

Coulthard deserved to be world champion but his style was far from the maestro reutemann.

[@HoratioFitzbastard]

One point away from the DC in '81.

[@josephneill691]

The way Jim Clark jumps so rapidly up to rival Fangio but then stops because of a Formula 2 race always has me thinking of what could have been. He mightn't be the goat, but he's my goat

[@pliiatz7534]

He holds the record of 8 grand slams - every lap lead, fastest lap, pole and win.

[@drewmah8735]

It was interesting to see how long Fangio remained in the list. Perhaps it should be based on average per race, or maybe remove points for penalties applied in a Grand Prix weekend.

[@komakie]

Average per race could work. But the longer the career, the harder to maintain. This list is the other way around. The longer you career, the higher you get because of the points you score.

[@primozsever1367]

@@komakie Well drivers had long careers also back then, the biggest problem is that they could only score on like 12-16 events per year. In 2000+ They raced 16-18 and I think since 2012 it's 20+ races per season

[@Indium111]

...Graham Hill was on this list starting in 1962 (Germany with 127 pts) and was still on at the end.

[@RDGamer321]

Watching Vettel and Hamilton race each other up the leaderboard in the early to mid 2010's is insane.

[@P9B]

Kinda like Kimi and Alonso!

[@bigsteve4203]

@@P9B but greater. These two dominated a whole decade. Absolute greats of the sport.

[@anesvick]

2005-2013 were some of the best years of F1 from a fan standpoint. Why they got rid of the V8's I'll never understand.... they actually had competition on the grid, teams weren't massively overpowered because they spent 1 billion dollars on research and hid it in their parent company.

[@ljubastojanovic608]

@@bigsteve4203 It is more correct to say that Renault dominated dor only 2 Years and Red Bull and Mercedes much longer. Indycar is showing real driver value, the cars being almost identical, in F1 car is dominant factor. About those "if" discussion... My favorite driver Mansell should have clean 2 titles prior his 1992 dominance. If Williams didnt have stupid politics not to keep actual World champion, meaning Mansell not leaving in 1993 he would score at least next 3 Willians titles Prost, Damon, Jack) and probabely both of Schumachers titles in Benetton. But this is for discussion only. Instead, he was Indy champ as a Rookie in 1993.

[@gz3zbz]

Prost was a boss.

[@magnusmunch2116]

I’m not sure on this. But if the morden pointsystem Where in use prost would be a 7 time champ, senna would have 1, lauda didnt win his 3rd with mclaren and nielson lost his last to prost

[@thomasseyffert1095]

@@magnusmunch2116 there is another video out that calculates exactly that, Prost would indeed be a 7 time (nearly 8) champ.

[@hugoagogo9435]

@@magnusmunch2116 I’m sure what you say is correct and I can’t be bothered working it out. But god that’s mind boggling

[@skodalaskoda8754]

the boss

[@JNST2023]

@@thomasseyffert1095 Only issue though is that drivers would have driven differently with a different point system

[@h.a.9880]

This chart is crazy. Senna being in the all-time top 10 despite driving much fewer races than those drivers that came after him and Schumacher being stopped just shy of 4k points and still maintains second place... impressive. Verstappen might now be somewhere in the ballpark of Alain Prost, but even so it'll take some time to crack past Vettel and Schumacher.

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

Verstappen has just overtaken Kimi. If you were interested.

[@zordiark9673]

@@SuperHipsterGamer The Drivers above his Points have at least 8 more seasons than him.. so if he really race until he's 36, then he might as well has overtaken Schumacher and maybe Hamilton. Comes down to the car i guess.

[@pk1342]

Would be interesting if you worked out their points tally for each season using their % finishes in each position and extrapolated that to 22 race seasons for everyone's career.

[@_Dibbler_]

Or just calculate points per race...(with this what if everyone had the same points system of course)

[@hwfejefwjkm-es2wo]

@@_Dibbler_ You would still have the issue that the cars were unreliable and broke down all the time compared to the last 15 years

[@ivicapavic3381]

You also need to take into account the fact that seasons had less races during Schumacher's era (16-18 at the most), making his records even more impressive.

[@6St6Jimmy6]

And reliability improved a ton after 2010 or so.

[@stevenanthony578]

For a proper comparison, you need to show % of available points. This would account for the fact that there are different numbers of races in a season over the years. Without this correction, your list is basically meaningless as it gives current drivers an edge due to the longer calendar they raced to.

[@MicuBamba]

Meaningless in any case: 6 places allowed points in 90s, so a driver would've risks much more to achieve that position during a race... Or calculate these risks differently. These are nothing more than funny stats.

[@dcarbs2979]

Still interesting. It's the closest way you can compare eras decades apart (due any number of rule, car, track and season changes). Seeing a comparison between scoring systems itself would be interesting. eg. if a driver finished 1st in one system but 20th in another, or the other way round: it would be interesting to see who benefitted or lost out most purely due to the numbering system and nothing to do with their driving!

[@darkalman]

Prost doesn't get enough credit Bonus points for Reubens and Valtteri for being the highest on the list without a championship

[@harpsw3390]

The fact Fangio was still on that list in 2012 on cements how great the man was.

[@impact224488]

2018 even. Its crazy

[@Indium111]

...Graham Hill was on this list starting in 1962 (Germany with 127 pts) and was still on at the end.

[@PG-20]

It took 12 years for someone to catch up to Fangio’s points total. Just GOAT things

[@RJSRdg]

Is there any way of "weighting" the scores so that drivers who drove in eras when there were far fewer races than today get more points per race? Quite interesting to see though that despite the much higher number of races these days, Hulme, Brabham, Fittipaldi, Graham Hill, Stewart and Lauda all still make the top 32.

[@quintuscrinis]

You could probably do a list on percentage of points a driver could have won using this chart. But it then depends how many decimal points you want to work to. And it still wouldn't account for car dominance questions.

[@gweah7821]

Just divide the points by the number of races held that year.

[@thomashancock1462]

Points per race would be the most accurate I would think

[@davidfoster1762]

Good point

[@josepedroteixeira3120]

Points per race

[@fernandosibecas3492]

Fangio only raced in 7 full seasons in which he won 5 championships with 4 different teams. His percentage of wins/starts is untouchable. Also in the 50’s they had less than 10 races compared to the 24 races in the current calendar.

[@arposkraft3616]

As a long time coulthard fan i must say it warms my heart and speaks to his consistency to see him among those top greats

[@pollemar]

And above Mika

[@dirtysideofthetrack]

Well that’s had me utterly mesmerized all the way through. Superb!! Now I know you can’t equalize the number of races from season to season but this is as close as you can get. Hits hard watching certain drivers like Clark, Senna etc stop rising way too early.

[@AdamRizky97]

So once again it's 2012 when the top 5 in this list were racing together, what a season, what a year to be alive to watch the whole 2012 season

[@tonycooper4141]

More exciting than many GP's! Wonderful.

[@ernestomartinez4090]

Without being a World Champion Carlos Reutemann reached number one position of this scoring table by the time he retired from racing. Remarkable.

[@forosagustin11]

Legend says he was boycotted by his own team from winning the championship.

[@ernestomartinez4090]

@@forosagustin11 Well he got pole position for the last race at Las Vegas 1981. With that Williams he made the pole time on Thursday. Friday was so hot nobody was able to improve Thursday's times. Nevertheless Reutemann tried some laps on that hot track condition and he found Nelson Piquet's Brabham touring in on a blind corner of that joke of a circuit they made. Reutemann couldn't be able to avoid contact. The right front suspension of his Williams was broken. They repaired the suspension but the perfect balanced car Reutemann had was completely lost. So Reutemann had no other choice but to change his car for the other car which was the new chasis. Reutemann didn't like that new chasis. So the race took place on Saturday. On Saturday morning with full tanks Reutemann noticed quite rapidly the gearbox was damaged and HE TOLD PATRICK HEAD RIGHT AWAY. Mr Head replied "Gearbox is fine". It wasn't fine at all. So starting from pole Reutemann with a different car with a damaged gearbox ended up on 8th position one lap behind the leader his teammate Alan Jones and Reutemann lost the WC by a single point because Nelson Piquet managed to ended up on 5th position that race at Las Vegas.

[@SimonvDay]

Epic dataviz! To the point where it was emotional. It was a goosebump moment when Senna didn’t surpass Prost, that is now sealed (career longevity considered). The F1 audio track closes out this awesome experience. More please.👌

[@stupidassol]

About everyone saying they didn't have the same amount of races per season, the cars were different, some drivers passed away to soon, etc. It is what it is people, decades from now when someone else does the same thing using their new points system but with FEWER races, people will still be saying the same thing... Ahhh, people - can't we all just say "Thank you for such a bang up job!" ✌️

[@lcdubs7847]

This is a fantastic way to compare drivers. Thanks for creating that list.

[@mundoeze]

Not so much because in the past were much less races per season so less points.. but it was interesting to watch

[@WH0oo...]

It's a view point absent the complexities and circumstances surrounding a race/season.

[@Lancista]

*_Juan Manuel Fangio | The Greatest_*

[@miguelksas5283]

Que grande el Lole Reutemann!!! prohibido olvidar lo enorme que fue. 💙🤍💙

[@ARGDevilDog]

F Argentina

[@profesormajor]

This only proves once again what a beast Fangio was.

[@raytheron]

Interesting, but still weighted heavily in favour of more recent drivers who have many times more races per season than people like Fangio had in their entire careers. So it still doesn't say who is, statistically, the GOAT. But super video and thanks for making it.

[@danylo4670]

The top 7 are a testament to F1 safety evolution as much as success... Many talented driver's lives were cut short in the 60s to early 90s. A comparison of points per race entered would be a fascinating comparison of points against the field vs career duration. Just a thought.

[@marcodhaene]

It's insane to realise that Max is just 25 but already 7th on this list. The dominant Mercedes era is clearly visible when you see Lewis and Valtteri shoot up the ranking. Nice to see it like this 😁

[@Kam1Kaz3NL77]

And ofcourse don't forget Nico Rosberg in his equal machinery! :P

[@PeterJPickles]

Remember people called Lewis crazy for going there, as they were very poor at the time, Lewis helped that team become what it became, people forget that, shame....

[@marcodhaene]

@@PeterJPickles agreed, but... Schumacher also laid a pretty nice foundation as far as team members, facilities and sponsorships go. Don't forget that as well 😉

[@pablokenzie47]

​@@marcodhaene Michael had NOTHING to do with the 2014 Mercedes, His driving style and car setup were completely different from Lewis's, From 2013 Mercedes and Ross Brawn began to build around Lewis after no significant results with Michael. As Michael was a Legend, he brought Awe and inspiration, team morale, and that was about it. But Lewis brought Results. With or without Michael Schumacher, Lewis was destined to bring 8 x Constructors titles to Mercedes. The foundation of Mercedes is 100% Ross Brawn, no other name is worthy to be beside his in this matter.

[@marcodhaene]

@@pablokenzie47 that's why I said "foundation as far as team members facilities and sponsorships go". Nothing to do with the car, all with the team behind it 😉

[@onlynb947]

Prost is an absolute underrated legend

[@ftolead]

He is my all time favorite.

[@eduardosantana8300]

He’s in a three way GOAT battle with Senna and Fangio.

[@resulnaki]

@@eduardosantana8300 lol you meant with Schumi, Fangio, and Hamilton.

[@eduardosantana8300]

@@resulnaki I can add Schumacher to the list sure. Won a championship in a midfield car, just like Prost. Never lost to a teammate during his prime. And until recently was the most successful driver ever (although this stat is the least important as it’s not a accurate measure of skill, but team success). Kind of hard to have Hamilton in the goat debate. He lost multiple times to a teammate over the course of an entire season. And while George Russell may turn out to be an all time great, nobody has button and Rosberg on their all time greats list. Losing to button and Rosberg, and now Russell kind of shows that Hamilton isn’t levels above everyone else. He’s a great driver in a great team. He definitely can’t win a championship in a midfield car. His 2008 championship was super impressive. He’s not anywhere near Senna in pace.

[@resulnaki]

@@eduardosantana8300 Schumi is the goat without a single shroud of doubt. Senna could barely compete with Schumi in his prime while Schumi was a rookie in the 3rd best car. It's Schumi, Fangio, Hamilton, Prost, then Senna/Vettel

[@DaimonF1]

Realy brilliant job, you are the best! Thank you! Nobody has done this table

[@kiwipaul5024]

Was incredible to see kiwi Denny Hulme finish on the last frame equal to Jack Brabham with who's team he was the only kiwi to win an f1 championship !!

[@LandoPro49]

Updated totals for current drivers, since the end of the 2022 season (when this was posted) and up to & including Miami 2024: HAM: 5,046.5 ALO: 3,162 VER: 2,698.5 BOT: 1,782 RIC: 1,319 PER: 1,571

[@MickPsyphon]

When you compare the number of races per season that each of the drivers in the top 10 or 20 raced in, it's heavily biased in favour of the current drivers. It also doesn't take other factors into play, but I won't hijack the comments with that discussion. Suffice to say that it would be worth looking into a way to weigh the scores through the number of races that were on the season calendar. I think many people would be surprised to see those results. On another note, this does shine a light on just how good some of the great drivers of the past were. Sir Stirling Moss was truly the greatest driver to never have won a championship; and he deserves to be in the ranks with the champions. Then there are those drivers who died, before they had a chance to give us a full career of superb racing. Jim Clark. Gilles Villeneuve. Ayrton Senna. Imagine....

[@CanalMedieval]

Great analysis. The last championships, however, had many more races and the pilots get more points. Ex.: 2024 = 24 races; 1993 has only 16! It's 50% more races now. Not to mention the points of sprint races of this times. It would be great if we can rearrange it into a percentual system, equalizing not only the points system, but also, in a certain way, the number of races. The final ranking must be very different and more proportional.

[@jordyheinecke]

The background music is just amazing 🙌 Thank you so much for it ☝️

[@nfineon]

Wow this was very enjoyable to watch, it's a metarace across time in this format, lots of good work!!

[@rubberjohnny1]

Seeing Jim stop a few races into 68 after only being in the sport 8 years 🥺

[@jerrylouis8930]

This comment deserves all the dislikes, for reason clear to understand.

[@rubberjohnny1]

@@jerrylouis8930lost to time

[@midslam]

This was great to see. Would be interesting to see them all with the same number of races per season (i.e. the shorter seasons have races/points calculated as a percentage of their actual results for that season). Fantastic content as always fellas.

[@ccramit]

I honestly thought this was the F1 youtube channel putting this out. It's some guys with less than 1k subs? Impressive.

[@sotitofanschop]

I did the same not too long ago! I plotted it differently. Accumulating over time with points on Y axis and time on X axis. That way you can really see who stands out from their peers and comparing well races per season etc. Wikipedia has one graph like that but without adjusting the scoring system. To me it was clear Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Schumi and Hamilton so above everyone else, absolute rock stars. Also highlighting how Alonso absolutely broke through in 2-3 years clear of everyone else.

[@Rob-hc5ry]

That’s brilliant … great to see all those drivers names from the past and Lewis at the top..

[@justamanchimp]

You should defo do this again except divide the points scored (25 for a win) by number of races in a season and then use that to increment a drivers score per race. The early drivers will score higher per race but obvs raced less, the modern drivers will score little per race but race a lot more. That should reflect the drivers success better.

[@gonzalocomunelli]

I saw this video, took the final standings and divide points against total number of races. This is what I get Hamilton 15,44 Schumacher 12,94 Prost 12,61 Verstappen 12,19 Senna 11,65 Stewart 11,34 Vettel 11,10 Hill 9,63 Bottas 8,82 Hakkinen 8,73 Rosberg 8,53 Hulme 8,46 Piquet 8,33 Alonso 8,23 Mansell 8,13 Raikkonen 8,02 Lauda 7,96 Reutemann 7,73 Brabham 7,52 Coulthard 7,08 Fittipaldi 6,94 Berger 6,79 Webber 6,34 Massa 6,24 R Schumacher 6,12 G Hill 6,03 Button 5,97 Barrichello 5,92 Ricciardo 5,64 Alesi 5,14 Pérez 4,95 Patrese 4,36 *Many mentioned Juan Manuel Fangio. According to this video he scored 894 points. I´ve checked and he started 51 races. This give us an average of 17.53*

[@markwestaway7207]

Also Jim Clark - 863 points from 73 starts = 11.82, so up there with the best.

[@SuperYansOmega]

One interesting person I saw, was Carlos Reautemann. In the mid 1980s this man stood at the number two place and was completely surrounded by legends of their time. Then this man just sits chilling along with them and I have personally never heard of him, despite apparalently being an amazing driver. So I love how this shows some appreciation of some more unknows, but great drivers.

[@alban020587]

Prost is highly underrated. Give him 18gps per season and he tops the ranking.

[@largol33t12]

And remember, he admitted to throwing away several victories because Senna was so hellbent on petty revenge. Prost sometimes just thought (he admitted this in an interview with a magazine) "Second place is fine with me, thank you very much." And a McLaren insider said sometimes this frustrated Senna to no end!

[@meta7gear]

He would be on many peoples top 5 lists if not for the romanticism surrounding Senna.

[@cchuvan]

Give Prost a point system that counts every race in the season and he has something like 8 titles instead of just 4. He's up there in the Pantheon with Schumi, Hamilton and Senna, no question.

[@marcosvieira6198]

Alain Prost is a scam. 89 belongs to Senna.

[@vosje6130]

the music, the editing, this video is really well made, this must have taken you quite a while! RESPECT

[@chrismuz]

Good job! - Interesting: 1. 7 Brits, 5 Brazilians, 4 Germans (+ Rindt), 3 Finns, 3 Aussis, 2 French, 2 Austrians, 1 Spaniard, 1 Dutch, 1 Mexican, 1 Kiwi, 1 Argentinian, 1 Italian 2. Fangio not in the top 32 3. Only a single Italian (but 3 Finns!) 4. Berger > Lauda.

[@Ahito1984]

5. Barrichello > A. Senna LOL

[@chrismuz]

@@Ahito1984 True, I overlooked that one

[@soundscape26]

Italy doesn't have a F1 champion since 1953 and Ascari is still the Italian driver with more GP wins at 13. Italiy's strength in F1 is much more connected to Ferrari than its home grown drivers.

[@MaxScheibenpflug]

Wow, as an Austrian, I knew Lauda was good - but I did not imagine him rising to the top that significantly!

[@Leftfield71]

Just for a second I thought Sir Jack Brabham was going to make it to the top spot, but he fell just a few points short. Sad, He is an under rated Triple World Champion who was one of the best drivers of his era.

[@Andrew_Fernie]

Holy moly, that was an astounding piece of work !

[@jskim8418]

Final result shows the One & only GOAT

[@TheKissnun]

My 🐐 Michael Schumacher #KeepFightingMichael

[@echnaton62]

In 1982 a driver was leading all who never won a championship- Reutemann

[@willbill6449]

Brilliantly done. Do you have software for this stuff, or did you do this manually?🤔 Either way, tons of effort, great result. Thank you!

[@ninjamoraes]

Esse é o maior favor que você fez para todos que gostam de Fórmula 1. Meus agradecimentos.

[@gamerkat99]

Absolute. Mega. Chad @TheDataDudes. How long did THIS TAKE TO MAKE?

[@rubensdeliz]

*This is the true ranking for all times. Equalizing everyone by the same criteria. Even though in the first championships the races were limited to a few events. Excellent research work with a lot of information and quality. Congratulations on the video. Rubens Leffer De Liz Santos, Florianópolis, SC, Brazil.*

[@MateusPasseri]

Need to update this to 2024...

[@lmao7439]

not much has changed tbh, max only jumped prost uptill now

I also like to consider the age/era when some of those pilots competed. The eighties was an era that pilots like Niki Lauda, Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna, Nelson Piquet, Nigel Mansell, Bellof, Keke Rosberg, Derek Warwick, Michele Alboretto, and even a later Michael Schumacher raced one against each other, with beasts up to 1200HP, manual gear, no traction control, etcetera.

[@MrJiminibobster]

I would also be really interested to see if, using this scoring system for previous seasons, there would be an years where it would have led to a different driver winning the WDC?!

[@reldwob22]

Many times! There are websites and video that show this. But you drive to the points that are available, so drivers would have made different decisions if they had different points, so you cannot really say things would have been different. We are so lucky that there are always the very best in F1, at any time, in any era.

[@n8pls543]

IIRC, some people did that and determined that Prost was actually incredibly close to being a 7 time WDC, which speaks volumes about his career consistency despite how many teams he drove for.

[@paulwhite7475]

Safer cars equal longer careers. More races per season means more opportunities for drivers to get points. Very interesting but you can't compare . I like to see the points totals divided by the number of seasons raced by a driver .

[@LimeyTX]

What would be interesting would be to see the same table but with points divided by starts to adjust for the fact that there are so many more races today.

[@ruppert5134]

In that case I think Fangio and senna and maybe verstappen would be top3...... I would include finishes too

[@fredschepers5149]

So what stops you to create such? I think many would love to see that.. 👍🏻

[@kukuc96]

Shows how insane Fangio was. He had about double of anyone else when he retired, and it took until 2018 (!) for him to drop off the chart. And he did it in 51 race starts, which is barely more than 2 seasons worth of races nowdays.

[@RJSRdg]

Of course the one factor that cannot be taken into account is those drivers of the past whose careers were cut short by fatal or life-changing accidents that today's drivers would walk away from.

[@asd36f]

Amazing how Juan-Manuel Fangio & Jim Clarke stayed on the list (60 years and 46 years respectively) after their final season.

[@jimmymcgoochie5363]

I’m surprised how far up the list Coulthard is, but then again he could have been a multiple world champion if not for Schumacher. A comparison based on average points per race would be informative both to balance the difference in races per year and for those drivers whose careers were cut short- the top 5 have had much longer careers with more races per year than most others which skews the results in their favour.

[@juhol2923]

How could Coulthard be a champion when always losing to his teammate in McLaren?

[@davids3539]

Average per race doesn't show progression/accumulation over time. You could just have the end screen. I think giving the points a multiplier where there were fewer races would be good. While I would like to see longevity represented, it's not the drivers' fault that there were fewer races back in the day.

[@derriethelm1524]

@@juhol2923 2001 I guess

[@gemellimusic931]

@@juhol2923 tbh Coulthard was better number 2 than Rubens in Ferrari. However, he was always forcely put behind Hakkinen

[@largol33t12]

@@juhol2923 I agree. Hakkinen made him look like a rookie many times. And don't forget, in 1995, while leading the Australian GP, DC crashed in the PITS!!!😂😂

[@zweispurmopped]

The longer you survive in your race driving career, the more points you may accumulate. There's a quite dark shadow visible through this video.

[@artifundio1]

OMG, what a masterpiece!! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I know I am going to rewatch this 👌

[@StuHolland]

This was a bloody brilliant video - god knows how long this must have taken you. Great work!

[@Anriandor]

Truly the greatest of all time 🏁

[@maurinho04]

Thank you for the comparison. The longevity factor plays a significant role in these numbers. It’s really difficult to compare across decades due to variations in the number of races per year. Additionally, cars tended to break down much more frequently before the 1990s. One method I like to use is the 'Senna factor'-comparing how many pole positions others needed to reach Senna's total. When you do this, you'll see that Senna secured pole position in almost 40% of his races, and no one has matched that, not even Schumacher, who had a highly competitive car from his second year in F1.

[@magicofshootingstar]

This was interesting statistic. 🙂 I just were thinking would it be more fair if there wouldn't be fastest lap point because in 60 years they weren't specifically after that and "lost" many easy points in this statistic because of that. 🤔

[@callmeshaggy5166]

Pretty impressive in terms of raw success and longevity that both Schumacher brothers are in the top 30 all-time.

[@Chiefwilburthegreat]

it made me depressed watching lewis catch Michael knowing that he could not be stopped

[@8enable]

Great vid Wonderful to see so many names from the past Thank you

[@Snoflakes_1]

I was looking forward to Verstappen's absolute launch that was 2022 and 2023, but I guess this video isn't recent enough for that

[@RiminiVirage]

Thankfully! Are points removed for being gifted a world title by an incompetent race director?

[@oktimusbrime6751]

​@@RiminiVirage Cry me a river 😂

[@grahamleigh8398]

@@oktimusbrime6751won’t go away. 😂. Max hasn’t even started yet.

[@clipanddone]

@@RiminiVirage My god Rimi get over it already... Shal we also take one championship away from Lewis then ? Masa was cheated out if this in '08 because of Renault. Both are legal WC.

[@philippthaler5843]

It's insane, that Ralf Schumacher is so far up there. Has this guy ever finished a race in another position than 5th? I guess a long career does give you a lot of points. Make that statistic an average points per race driven or race finished and they have more value than this. This just rewards being alive the longest and refusing to quit.

[@JoeCobragaming]

What blows me away is that alonso finishes in 4th and has only won 2 world championships compared to the guys above him. Goes to show what a legend he is.

[@burninglion2584]

It's very interesting watching this animated - you can clearly see the improvement with each driver as they rose the ranks, and why they were stood out for greatness.

[@joerogers9626]

Is Max the only driver here for whom his entire career has been under one points system? And if so, why does his points tally not match that quoted elsewhere of 2011.5 pts? Edit: Great video by the way ☺ Forgot to say. Always wondered how this would pan out for the all-time greats.

[@joerogers9626]

Oh wait... Sprint Races? 🙄

[@TheDataDudesF1]

Yeap! Sprint races do not count!

[@TheRoboteer]

@@joerogers9626 They also only (re)introduced the fastest lap point in 2019.

[@dcarbs2979]

I doubt it. I suspect may 70s-90s drivers spent an entire career in one points system. The 10-6-4-3-2-1 system was in place for a very long time (20 years?) and had a consistent 16 races per season.

[@undeadbassman]

Incredible that Reutemann was top in 1982 and never really came close to winning a championship.

[@Jordanmilo]

That was very cool. Lots of surprises: How far Lewis is ahead of Michael. How well all the Brazilians on the list did; I didn't expect Felipe and Rubens to place so high, since they are without titles. And Kimi and Fernando are surprisingly high, since they've both had seasons where they struggled. Thanks for putting that together. It's very illuminating.

[@michaeltrumph121]

Hamilton has competed in way more races than Schumacher and has had the best car out there for a longer period of time.

[@brolo7234]

Not really surprising at all. Hamilton has always been in the best teams and has been racing for far longer. Schumacher went to Ferrari when they were at their worst.

[@walover165]

Sir Jack Brabham and Denny Hulme still hanging onto the list is quite a feat!

[@houch7640]

Please do this again upto 2024

[@kfilarski]

seeing carlos reutemann take the top spot all time in the middle of 1982 is wild to me

[@trance9158]

Lewis and Bottas!! Lewis on top will piss off a lot of haters.

[@fredschepers5149]

😂😂😂😂 is that all you've got out of this 😂😂😂😂 Did you actually know the names on this list before, or was you just interested to see where Hamilton ended... 😂😂😂😂

[@trance9158]

@@fredschepers5149 kid... I've been watching F1 since 1980. I've seen these drivers race. Try something more creative.

[@diogosilva27]

So cool Had no idea that at one point Graham Hill and Carlos Reutemann were at the top of this list!!!

[@Sparrow.31]

*Prost* chad

[@greggesaman535]

Agreed. I felt the same about Jim Clark. Two of the best that were gone before their time.

[@biker75]

That song makes epic every single video! Nice info, thanks... Very heavy names on top

[@Honolulu-Blue]

Thanks for sharing. It was fantastic fun for me to watch!