10 Holy Grail SNES Games!

[@pharmcat8484]

“They belong in a museum!!!”

[@Fortefyre]

Might as well! LMAO

[@DongCorleone]

"So do you!" 😂😂😂😂😂 Well Done sir

[@NateTheGnat]

Throwim over the side…

[@Fortefyre]

:P

[@kurtmager1626]

I remember Hagane in stores, back in the day. Thirty five years ago, I worked at Toys R Us, and I remember we had it. I also recall seeing it on sale at the local EB Games. I think it's so rare because it got poor coverage. I had subscriptions to a couple different gaming magazines, and I don't recall ever reading any reviews for it back in the day. In fact the first review I'd ever seen of it was on KZbin. When I worked at Toys R Us, the games department was my department, and I recall us getting 20 copies. None of them were ever sold. Games that sold poorly would get marked down in price, but products that didn't sell at all simply got returned to the distributor/manufacturer. I remember it had cool box art, but otherwise had no interest in purchasing it because I had nothing to go on like a review, or any recommendations for it.

[@Fortefyre]

That makes sense! Thank you for providing an insight into the behind the scenes of game sales!

[@jessragan6714]

If you can't get Hagane, the Switch game Vengeful Guardian Moonrider is much cheaper, and has big Mega Man X, Strider, and Hagane vibes.

[@Fortefyre]

Oooh!

[@kc_jones_gaming]

Bro… I’ve been looking for Hagane since I played it on both SNES and Sega Genesis when I was a kid and couldn’t remember the name of it. I never saw it again until now. Thank you for putting a 30 year personal mystery to rest 🙏

[@Fortefyre]

It's what I do! I'm glad to have been a part of it!

[@pharmcat8484]

The fact that Hagane is number 10 surprised and scared me.

[@Fortefyre]

Same.

[@originalsleepyjon]

I competed in both the NWC 1990 and the StarFox Super Weekend competition. I finished NWC as a semi finalist for my age group and I won the StarFox comp at my local Blockbuster Video. I remember getting a StarFox bomber jacket for my effort.

[@Fortefyre]

That's so awesome!

[@Loanwolf387]

These days I’m spending less time collecting rare games and focusing more on making new gaming memories with my youngest. Playing through River city girls for a second time with my daughter is priceless

[@Fortefyre]

That's a noble thing to do!

[@brichan1851]

My first of your videos. Fascinating! What a great video. Thank you for sharing. Being my first of your videos, I will be certain to check out your other stuff. Instant subscriber!

[@Fortefyre]

Well that's awesome! Welcome to the community! There's something for everyone here. Is there any particular aspect of gaming history you like?

[@brichan1851]

@ gaming history is something I eat up. I’m a tail end Gen-Xer. Born in 1978, gaming has been as much a part of my life as movies and music. We had an Atari VCS in 1982. I was too young to know how to play it, but I was fascinated by the bloops and bleeps of Pac-Man and Combat. In 1987, for Christmas, I was given a brand new NES Deluxe System. It came with R.O.B. and a Zapper, Gyromite and Duck Hunt. I was the weird kid who never owned Super Mario Bros. Along with the NES, I opened up a gold box with a gold cartridge of The Legend of Zelda. At 9 years old, I was old enough to play and understand. I was captivated. Fast forward to Christmas of 1991, I got a SNES that came with Super Mario World. I also got Final Fight and F-Zero. It was the most incredible thing I had ever seen. Up to that Christmas, I researched everything I could on the SNES, SEGA Genesis, and the TurboGraFX-16. I devoured everything I could about the systems. Back then, there was no internet, so I relied on gaming magazines. I have owned just about all of the major systems at one point or another throughout my life. I am 46 years old and I still just love my gaming. There is really no part of gaming history that I DON’T love, but, if I were forced to choose, I’d say the 90’s are my favorite era of gaming and gaming history. The Console Wars of the 16-Bit era and the transition into the 32-Bit/64-Bit systems is so amazing to me. I love reliving that time period. There are SO MANY great games and innovative ideas from then. It was a time of fierce competition and experimentation. Everyone was trying to 1Up (pun intended) each other and we all benefitted by the creative spirit that was so alive back then. To this day, I still go back and read old gaming magazines and books that cover games. Most of my KZbin videos are about games from the past and on up to the current day. I have all three systems, but my Switch dominates my playtime and my library. 90% of my 260+ Switch games are retro titles in one way or another. Whether they are old games (Nintendo Online systems and games), remasters (Chrono Cross, Marvel Vs. Capcom Arcade Classics Collection), remakes (The Legend of Zelda Link’s Awakening, Ultra Street Fighter II), or retro style games (River City Girls 1+2, Blossom Tales 1 & 2). The old style games of the 90’s are what gaming is all about. That is the age of gaming that perfectly encapsulates everything that was great and magical, and is sorely missing in most games of the modern era.

[@Fortefyre]

@@brichan1851 That is EPIC. Thank you for providing an insight into your gaming history. I really think you would enjoy the Generations episodes. I don't usually send people there (because it's a little bit more longform than I would like), but I think you in particular might REALLY enjoy it. So far I've covered Gen 1-3, talking about all major gaming history points through it. If you want to check it out, here's the link to the playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ_WnX5-eL9-oac Again, welcome to the community, you're home here!

[@brichan1851]

@@Fortefyre I am definitely going to watch. I cannot wait. Thank you so much. It’s clear that you take gaming as a serious hobby; one that you really devote time and patience to. It’s so nice to see people who are passionate about games. So many people, including many “gamers,” sadly, see video games as a fun distraction from life. I disagree. I believe video games should be elevated to a status equal to the great films of cinema. They are a collaborative effort to explore technology and the creative mind. For me, a game like Chrono Trigger is on par with The Godfather or Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. These creations are more than cartoony characters that we move around on a screen. They are rich in stories with beautiful musical scores to set the mood. They are a reflection of our dreams and our deepest fantasies. We can bring such things to life, and experience them ourselves, through gaming. More than that, titles like Halo and Fortnite are ways we can reach out to connect with others across the globe; in competition, or cooperation. They allow us to connect with one another in a way that no other medium is able to provide. Video games are such an important part of modern culture. They allow us to see the beauty in others and ourselves. We get to be the hero. We get to rob the bank. We get to race the courses of Laguna Seca in a souped up 427 AC Cobra. We get to dance with Hatsune Miku. There’s no end to the possibilities! Thank you for sharing this link. I will be sure to check it out. And thank you for being as passionate about gaming as I am. 😊

[@i-evi-l]

Congrats! Been enjoyng the material enough to sub.! Keep up the good work of letting me relive my nostalgia and educating me on material on that I missed in my youth!

[@Fortefyre]

Awesome! I'm glad to hear that!

[@gjsvidz]

Subscribed. Great vid. Great take on everything.

[@Fortefyre]

Awesome, thank you!

[@krisfrederick5001]

I will never forget Christmas morning 1992. That was when I got my SUPER NINTENDO with Super Mario World packed in AND A Link to the Past. After seeing it in Kmart and SEARS catalogs and dreaming of it. I even got the Sega Genesis Fighting System with Streets of Rage 2 the next year. We weren't rich, I was a blessed kid ❤❤❤

[@Fortefyre]

I know that exact feeling!

[@jessragan6714]

I'm in the "play it any way you can" camp.

[@Fortefyre]

I've been that way lately as well.

[@sneakingelephant]

Some airlines used to have video games playable on their flights. They’d have a SNES or SFC controller built into the seat in front of you and you could play games. That is how I first experienced Hagane as a kid. I really wish I had seeked out a copy back then 😂

[@Fortefyre]

I remember when hotels had a N64 installed lmfao.

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

While I like that alternate Zombies Ate My Neighbors box art, it's still no excuse to rampantly crank the price up.

[@Fortefyre]

Oh no, absolutely not. It's a box.

[@mr.milehi9883]

About a year and a half ago I was living with my brother with my fiance. He kicked us both out on a whim, literally. She been having many seizures and just got out of that hospital. He gave us 4 hours to leave. He kept most of my video game consoles the only two I had returned with no games minds you are a dream cast. Also, one of the goodies which I wanted the most. The refurbished SNES game console. You need one of these if you don't have it. The way you can tell the difference is that the refurbished by Nintendo ones have a decentary 10 pain job on the console as opposed to the stock gray. This has the newest chipset in it. When the PS1 came out. They had a trade in of your 16-bit consoles. Nintendo made the most of it by adding the newest chipset. It really makes most games run about 15% better! Most people do not know the difference either. If you have a great one get a decentary tan one. I promise you you're not going to be unhappy with that. Since most people don't know the difference. They're typically won't be a price point difference. To make matters worse, he kept my cat! I would have had her 9 years a month after he kicked us out. Unfortunately, even though he said I could take the kitty back. Our health is too poor and our space too small too accommodate the cat. I love her too much to take her away from my brother's house where she has two floors to run around on. It really sucks. Hopefully your brother hasn't taken any of your pets from you. Actually, I can't remember but I thought you said you only had younger sisters. Not sure either way thanks for your help with stuff. Glad to be subscribing and hope he makes it 8,000 subscribers that you want I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. It certainly will. I bet before christmas.

[@Fortefyre]

It would certainly be another Christmas miracle wouldn't it? LOL

[@ThunderFist1978]

I have repros of the Donkey Kong Country, Campus Challenge, and Powerfest carts. The Powerfest cart’s box implies that you got the 10K variant, as it shows that point value for Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball, but when you play it, it’s the million point variant. RetroUSB did a great job with their packaging and manuals, and I was rather sad when they stopped offering the repros.

[@Fortefyre]

God I love RetroUSB. They were so kickass.

[@jamesreece9502]

Every time I get a notification for a new video of yours, I shout "Yes!"

[@Fortefyre]

I appreciate that :)

[@Daveybird]

7:14 anybody remember the GameRider for, I believe, the PS2? Forgot about it until I saw this.

[@Fortefyre]

I don't recall that.

[@Daveybird]

@@Fortefyre It was the same thing; an excercise bike to play your games on.

[@jonbourgoin182]

The fact that so many of your viewers are unsubbed means your videos are showing up in the algorithm, that's how I found you. I subbed though. Basically your videos are showing to unsubbed people. Just putting a positive on it.

[@Fortefyre]

You know, I never considered that. I appreciate that insight!

[@zooropa04]

On a lark once I tried setting the difficulty to MK 2 to the highest setting. Literally every step forward I took was hit with a projectile or aerial attack. Unreal.

[@Fortefyre]

I think that the AI is always aggressive, but the difficulty slider affects frame distance or something like that.

[@dannelson5480]

I used to own Hagane but sold it when I needed cash. Seriously an amazing game.

[@Fortefyre]

Such an amazing game!

[@Jackbat69]

I'm not a snes collecter but Seeing the prices for some snes jrpgs id probably just buy repos i have a earthbound repo from a few years ago it works great.

[@Fortefyre]

I love Repro's so much, I just don't go out of my way to collect them.

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

That AP-74 light gun reminds me of the Magnavox Odyssey episode where the AVGN is surprised that gaming companies were once able to get away with real looking light guns.

[@Fortefyre]

Absolutely!

[@DongCorleone]

I always hope that someday I will find something off this list in the wild. Good video as always. Cheer Sir

[@Fortefyre]

You and me both!

[@NathanDurben]

Aero Fighters was my game! Our community swimming pool had an arcade cabinet of this game for a few years and I spent more time playing it than swimming

[@Fortefyre]

It's such a great game! You should check out the other 2 if you get a chance!

[@aldoushuxleysghost]

Of all these, I only own Hagane. I purchased it on eBay in 2001 or 2002. The sticker is in rough shape, but it plays well

[@Fortefyre]

I'm beyond jealous!

[@mikeburkhart8336]

Activision did the same thing back in the Atari 2600 days,send a photo of your best score to Activision,they sent you a patch for the game,brag to your friends about getting the patch! I got the Pitfall,H.E.R.O.,and Megamania ones!

[@Fortefyre]

Atari had some thing for Roadblasters on the NES as well, not to mention Treasure Master or whatever that MTV contest was lol.

[@jonraymondchua2388]

Great list. Never thought how much these game cost now.. deeply shocked with the cost of Aerofighters 1 / Sonic Wings...My son and I played it (via emulator) and he loved it... I'd rather play it this way so my son can enjoy more games in my childhood

[@Fortefyre]

Oh man, Aero Fighters 2 and 3 are even better! Ignore Aero Fighters special though.

[@fjcarmo0369]

I downloaded Hagane and Aero Fighters and Emulated them. They are both great games.

[@Fortefyre]

Yes! I love them!

[@ZuzNewsReviews]

Oooo, that hurts knowing you don't like one of my all-time favorites, Zombies Ate My Neighbors. To make up for it, hopefully you've got footage of your daughter decapitating Sub Zero (It's nice to hear that she's still saying, "Dude, that's literally so weird," after I complimented her).

[@Fortefyre]

Hahah she has a rotating group of comfort phases lol.

[@lucrativesoundsent.1274]

I also own a repro of Hagane. The funny thing is that even repros may be worth a lot of money as well depending on the quality of the repro. Also, Speed Racer for the SNES does exist on its own. I own a copy of that game and it’s not an expensive game to own, but I do not know if the one version from the Life Fitness Bike is the same as the loose version. The gameplay of Speed Racer is very similar to games like James Bond Jr, etc where it combines platforming stages with race car stages.

[@Fortefyre]

I would assume that the racing stages are the only ones that work for the combined cart :P

[@lucrativesoundsent.1274]

@ Lol yeah I thought the same too

[@necrogenesis1981]

@@lucrativesoundsent.1274 are they even legal? Or is it a grey area? Generally only the genuine article appreciates because not many people want to deal in counterfeits for obvious reasons.

[@Fortefyre]

I think there is a major ethical disparity that could pose an issue if Nintendo really wanted to.

[@Ricksteady8]

I think we had that exercise bike game (or something very similar) in gym class in 8th grade.... lmfao

[@Fortefyre]

That's a hell of a way to get kids working out lmao.

[@purevalunboxing]

Nintendo used the NFS copies for their giveaways as well.

[@Fortefyre]

This is true!

[@kyledownes7525]

Very interesting episode. 👌

[@Fortefyre]

Thank you!

[@necrogenesis1981]

I wasn’t sure if this would be a subjective list or not but I’m surprised Earthbound isn’t on the list, but judging by the prices you listed I guess it wouldn’t have made it since the most I’ve seen for a sealed copy is $1,000.

[@Fortefyre]

It was on the impractically expensive episode :) Here's the link! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJqYZoSmhtd6abs

[@cherokeefit4248]

I got snes metal marines cib. It was costly doing so too.

[@Fortefyre]

Ooh! Nice grab though!

[@50TBRD]

I had 10-8 and didn't pay more than 50 bucks for any of them. Star fox Weekend and DK Competition I could have bought for less than 350 at the time and Speed Racer/BMR was 100.

[@Fortefyre]

Jeeeez, lucky!

[@mlc4050]

I can't afford any of these-FXPAK Pro for the win!

[@Fortefyre]

LMAO YESSSS

[@tripd8178]

Even attacked the nasty girls 🫣

[@Fortefyre]

:P

[@lukesmith9692]

I have played games my whole life. I sold my whole nes collection. I have a Famicom and every NES game on it. I just turned 40 and would like to get back in it. I only play games three times in two months recently. Would you get a Sega Genesis, N64 or a backwards compatible PS3 ( PS3 because the games were fun and still online) Would to get back into a Sega Genesis, N64 or the PS3 ?

[@Fortefyre]

Honestly, I think you should just get a raspberry pi and emulate, the cost of replacing all those memories would be too tough.

[@CobraShuttle]

Great list! I’ve been researching all this for the last few years. I’m pretty sure you’re way off on your Hagane CIB price.

[@Fortefyre]

Low or high? Lol.

[@CobraShuttle]

@@Fortefyre Low. By at least double!

[@Fortefyre]

Oh damn Cobra, that moved fast! A few months ago when I scripted this it was still SOMEWHAT not "my wife will kill me if I buy it" lmao

[@mikeyelfers]

Big like for using the motherfucking Ken Griffey Jr music.

[@Fortefyre]

Of course! It's actually the music on the cart too, so thanks to Nintendo for including it!

[@russellwortham2902]

I saw a copy of just Speed Racer on eBay

[@Fortefyre]

Oh snap really!

[@gamingtheologian8515]

Does the test cartridge play the Zelda II music or did you add that? Also, I emailed you recently. Have you seen it?

[@Fortefyre]

That music is straight from the cart! It plays during the burn in test. I'll check my email. Kiddos have been sick as hell.

[@StarlightMirror]

Or the alternate title for this is: "10 SNES Games for Rich People!" XD Imo no game is worth that much money, if I had one of those competition carts I'd probably sell it and use the money for some of the expensive Jrpg's from the 90's etc.

[@Fortefyre]

I 100% agree. You shouldn't have to be in a high tax bracket to afford remembering video game history.

[@Rob_1776]

I don't mind playing! And owning some games! But when it comes to spending that kind of money on one! I'd rather buy things that go pew, pew, pew! Instead! Just Sayin'!

[@Fortefyre]

I can relate with that lol.

[@Rob_1776]

Lol

[@danielkun616]

well thank godness for emulation

[@Fortefyre]

Absolutely!

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Zombies ate my neighbors is fuckin terrible. I don’t know what people find in that game.😂🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Fortefyre]

RIGHT!?!?!

[@joek5882]

And I cant bring myself to pay $100 for a copy of Axelay because my friend borrowed it...and lost it during a move! 🤦‍♂️

[@Fortefyre]

OOF, that's a tough one!

[@UltimateGamerCC]

it's freakin' sad how Retro Gaming started as a way for people to live out their Nostalgia, but has since devolved into another get rich quick pyramid scheme. for a couple years before shit hit the fan i would watch Pat The NES Punk and his Flea Market Madness series. it was fun watching him collect games and other stuff for pennies on the dollar, but in recent years he has uploaded FMM rarely due to visits to the Flea Market being fulla resellers and generally overpriced games. think Ebay, but the games are all loose and exposed to sunlight. i recommend watching, but only if you want to rage and scream at the world like AVGN does for comedy.

[@Fortefyre]

It's truly a shame. Imagine blueballing an entire generation from experiencing the games their parents enjoyed at their age for the sake of making a quick buck.

[@Blairedwardperry-yu2mg]

I have zombies ate my neighbors snes the one with the zombies on the cover

[@Fortefyre]

I don't have either version :P

[@magnusdiridian]

Ugh, mega man X3 didn't even make it to the list, and I got 2 of them

[@Fortefyre]

Oh no! It almost made practically expensive games.

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Loved hagane. I rented it Hollywood video . Blockbuster exclusive my ass!!

[@gjergjaurelius9798]

Never got around to buying it though. Kind of slipped my mind. I wish I got it when FUNCOLAND was selling older games.

[@Fortefyre]

I WISH I could have bought it when it was new.

[@kdogg7882]

“Grail” games are such a waste especially for what you get for your money. This is exactly why everdrives were invented.

[@Fortefyre]

I 100% agree!

[@Marc_Araujo]

Keep trying to write about the "America's Army" games but something keeps triggering your comment censor. P.S. Sat through a 45-min presentation to score the second game my last year of hs...no regerts.

[@Fortefyre]

I have no clue why, I didn't even realize I had censoring lmfao. That's dope!

[@wwjd222]

Love the vid but wish i could enjoy it with my kiddos. Too much cussing and had to turn it off. I totally get it - I wanna swear cuz of these prices too

[@Fortefyre]

I will be creating a series that is family friendly, and I'll make it very clear it's family friendly, but the tough part is so many years of being in the military and making videos talking how I do, it's tough to break it.

[@pauljacob99]

This video is just dumb. Buy the standard release. In the case of Hagane buy the Super Famicom version loose.

[@Fortefyre]

The video isn't dumb, but the prices are lol. It's just educational.