Fortin Evil Pumpkin - First Impressions & Dial-In

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[@TudorAdrian]

Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Regardless of the whole Fortin polarization (hate/love), the amp sounds great. I hope NDSP manage to come out with this in plugin format - would be an instant buy

[@clydewilliams7061]

Man, I like it! And great demo.

[@fluxxliveband]

Great video, Jarrod! Thanks to Jason from GoldfingerGuitars for having you unbox it for all of us! Love the external Bias/Test controls that Mike Fortin puts on amps. You can put KT77s in it too!

[@metallion0738]

I still like the EVH stealth better, the Fortin sounds too fizzy.

[@TheCyberMantis]

Yeah, the Stealth sounds better.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

@@TheCyberMantis and way less expensive, the Fortin is 4k versus under 2k for the Stealth. EVH is way better value.

[@cornholy69]

Sick!! I was hoping to see this on Your channel. 🤞 QC capture 🤞

[@aaronwest1259]

Holy crap!!! For my taste, the pumpkin rules!!!❤

[@JROD5150]

It's amazing how much better these demos are when a host has an open mind and no pre-bias toward the product or it's manufacturer (see PRS MT-100 demo).

[@benburnett8109]

I agree. FLuff really had alot of bias in his video. And we all know how Glenn Fricker is?? Mark Tremonti acted like the thing had his name on it! He bragged about it like it made vanilla pudding and cooked eggs! One thing I like about Tone Wars........he treats each amp with unbiased resolve and tries to get the best out of every amp that he touches. Ola, Fluff, Pete Thorn, Michael Nielsen could ALL learn from Jarrod.

[@shovington67]

SWEEP, refers to the ability to choose the mid frequency that you want to emphasize, and then boost or cut that particular frequency. This feature is more akin to the EQ strip on a sound console. Generally speaking, on a sound console, the mid frequency would also have a feature called "Q" that allows you to make the chosen frequency very accurate and specific, or spread across a wider frequency range, depending on how you set the attenuator (dial).

[@FortinAmps]

Awesome! 🤘

[@TheTerrorBeyond]

Beautiful clean channel!

[@Joey_Tatts_Palmer]

I think it sounds good!

[@minibucker]

The cleans on this amp are nice. NaTaS distortion is smoother , dryer, tighter. This amp is has a more fuzzy , spongy, distortion. To each his own. Still can be used in a mix. A different color on the palette of sound.

[@martinhensley2377]

I love this amp. I'm so glad that you are demo it. Fortin rocks.

[@TheLamboman640]

Dude he hates it 😂

[@Bognerman14]

Love your demo videos. Still, I haven't heard many amps that beat out the top five you'll never sell. I'm still thrilled with the Revv Generator 120 you recommended. It does anything and everything I want. Sure the clean is just OK, but the other channels are incredible. Thanks.

[@Walkerbjj]

What were those 5 amps? I have a Bogner Ecstasy i'll never sell.

[@Bognerman14]

@@Walkerbjj Which Ecstacy? I'm a big fan of Bogner. Been debating if I want an Ecstacy or Friedman next. If you search Tone Wars 5 amps I'll never sell, the video will come up.

[@Walkerbjj]

@@Bognerman14 101b. I love Friedman but a/b’d it with a be deluxe and preferred the 101b. There’s something special about that chewy gain. Both amps are great. I laugh when people say an ecstasy won’t do metal. I play in a very heavy band and I don’t even run a boost people with mine.

[@Bognerman14]

@@Walkerbjj Thanks. I have a 20th Anniversary Shiva and love it. I have other amps too but the Shiva is my only Bogner. Next amp most likely will be a Bogner, Friedman or Diezel such as the Einstein or D-Mol. I have started using a boost with all of my amps regardless of gain. I just love the feel for me personally. I set my Friedman Buxom so that it's not really adding any gain, just giving me a feel I love. That said, I love my Shiva with or without a boost. For me the boost is more about feel than gain or heavy. All of my amps have more than enough gain. I recently sold a PRS Archon and Mesa Boogie Mark V. I had an EL34/6CA7 20th Shiva and sold it a several years back. I ended up getting another Shiva a little over a year ago and love it. Have you tried the Bogner Ecstacy 3534 50 watt? I would love to try a new Ecstacy Pandora.

[@Bognerman14]

@@Walkerbjj Have you ever played the 20th Anniversary XTC or the XTC 3534 50 watt?

[@Whizzinby777]

Sounds very fizzy. Something unpleasant going on in the top end.

[@Leftlanedave]

Only with the overdrive on. This amp needs no overdrive pedal

[@yousocrazy1199]

i have a Randall Thrasher 50 and as soon i hear this amp demoed in tonekiller channel, i immediately say its sound like Thrasher, for me to get rid of fizz i just bump the depth and less the presence and mids something like that but the again im no expert

[@draper858]

I thought the same thing, kinda fizzy or harsh in the high end. I guess I’m just a splawn or Friedman type of person when it comes to amplification

[@davem7632]

Fizzy mess

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

@@Chugg.Norris I played it with and without a boost dumb ass. watch the video again. you people are so stupid

[@lukehenderson]

Sounds great! Any chance we'll be getting some Quad Cortex captures of it soon?

[@muleblues71]

Jarrod's like a kid at xmas 🤣

[@joecrowsantibanez1733]

Nice. I like it with a little more time you would make sound even better

[@shredward666]

I know it sounds crazy, but turn the highs all the way down and the mids all the way up. It’s the only way I could get my Randall Satan to sound good. Assuming it could be the same thing here.

[@Bognerman14]

I was thinking about you regarding the new Lichtlaerm Audio head!

[@ravenblackfeather4028]

Hell yeah🤘

[@ryanparker584]

Dude i have wanted this amp forever and finally getting one from fortin off reverb. Its expensive but that a my uber ulta and im good

[@Wedontdeservedogsbro]

How ya liking it compared to the ultra

[@maxb7561]

Man that I like your review. You deserve 10x more subscribers at least !

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you so much! I appreciate that

[@Sneaky-Snek]

killertonetexas finally got a signature amp, that's so badass, thank you fortin for recognizing that mans riffage

[@manos6426]

Monstrous amp, very nice. I think I hear something clipping though, maybe the mic input? (just sayin'). Hey where is the EL34 EVH? Keep up the nice videos.

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Awesome! Been curious about Fortin amps as the amp modelers were loads of fun that I used for computer amp modeling. What is your all around favorite metal amp, Jarrod?

[@chasinggain]

I usually love your tone but man did that KK channel sounds waaaay better before you turned both gain knobs to 11 😅. Awesome review either way and as always, we appreciate the new flavors!

[@bengirard1984]

Great demo!! The clean and second channels were superb (although I preferred the sound without any boost to be honest) but the third one was bad imho. It's like if the channel already had a boost in front, gain to 10, overloading it, giving some unpleasant crackling sounds or something.

[@Viper_75th_RR]

Great video as always. Sounds like a really pissed off 5150. Like it came home and found its best friend plowing the wife pissed off. The second channel also sounds similar to the HiWatt you demoed.

[@brandonbuell3519]

Please, please, PLEASE do some Kemper and ToneX profiles of this beast!!!!

[@JonathanBriseboisLamarche]

Where's the QC pack of this fine amp!? :)

[@dalejacksonmo]

Good tones..killer amp..pricey...no payment plans....lol...kicks freaking ass...Mike Fortin..metal genius amp designs and especially tones

[@jroz8111]

Similar to my Natas I'm not really into the top end. Alittle too stiff for my liking. Great features and look. Really modern IMO Killer video Brother Like always !!

[@davidshankle7359]

I mean, it’s a great amp. It’s got a lot of power and a lot of gain can it beat an Engel savage no I don’t think so but there’s things about it. I like power drive.

[@techdeathhippie6319]

It’s the Chinese Larry Amp !

[@JimsMusicJourney]

They should endorse the Helloween guitarists. lol

[@TheCyberMantis]

Kai Hansen and Michael Weikath.

[@ksharpe10]

IT has plenty of what Jared wants for sure. Never had an amp. with Girth and Grind controls.

[@jaredmestas]

I'm curious to see how it stacks up against the Savage. I feel like they have a similar "raw" quality to them both but maybe this is a bit beefier?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

I prefer the Savage

[@josephbutler148]

Great review. i probably need to have it in the room but the cleans sounded a little dull and sterile channel 2 was a little fuzzy and brittle channel 3 very staticy and lacking depth and low end fullness. Also 2 and 3 seemed like they could get clanky real easy too but kinda expected that from Fortin though. Seemed like an engl wanna be even though they are meant to be a Larry / Steavens copy

[@bydemonsbedriven803]

not really my forte but definitely a nice amplifier. Much like yourself I am partial to the second channel mostly. Don't think I would spend the money on this just to have that channel but for the people that like channel 3 and channel 1 yeah it's pretty nice. I can think of a couple other amplifiers that would benefit from that sweep function though. Great video brother, I appreciate the content. as soon as I get my tonex for Christmas I will be purchasing all of your captures on your website because I want them all. It's nice to have a collection of awesome amplifiers and not spend your life savings getting them and I appreciate you for that. I already have several friends who have purchased them from you and they are awesome. look forward to it. Hope you're having a great day and once again thanks for the great video.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Much appreciated!!

[@benburnett8109]

Pantera Fan??

[@bydemonsbedriven803]

@@benburnett8109 absolutely

[@jcollell]

It sounds great but i heard some noise on the Pumpkin Channel. Dunno if it was the amp itself or something with mics. I thought both gain channels were really good but I personally liked the KK out of the two. Four grand though. Yeesh. My wife would sell my organs if I bought that sucker! 😂

[@TheChicagoTodd]

Always a great video Jarrod. Didn't like that cracklin' though.....seems like an amp in this price range shouldn't have that characteristic. Not a bad amp though. Sounds really good even without a boost.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Hey Todd, thanks for commenting. Yeah, that noise on the EP channel was annoying.

[@CFChristian]

First saw this being played by the dude from Car Bomb.

[@northern_foxx]

Maybe I missed it - but which cab/mic are you playing through? Sounds amazing!

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Mesa 212 with V 30's Royer 121 blended with the SM57

[@northern_foxx]

@TONEWARSgearshow Guess I gotta get a new mic :D

[@TheCyberMantis]

@@TONEWARSgearshow I'm not sure V30's are the right speaker for this amp. But I realize you use that cab for consistency with your demos.

[@brandonbryson3317]

Not so much digging this one. I’ve only played a Fortin Cali, and it was lot my favorite modded Marshall by any stretch. I feel like a lot of Fortin is just hype. This one has a lot of fizz and some unpleasant frequencies. I like an aggressive and raw top end, but there is some weirdness with this one.

[@user-by6eb6zo7g]

Metal zone'y

[@craigharrison5406]

My dream amp. That thing is so nasty.

[@chucksteak4761]

So which is the better amp, Evil Pumpkin or the Engl Founders Edition? Pretty close in price.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Engl SE by a thousand miles

[@ryan.1357]

Is the stress you were talking about in the other video the rising tension during recording this as it progressively didn't pan out for the friend who brought the amp over? Certainly looks like things were getting kinda solemn as the video went on.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

I'll just put it to you this way, it was a very lengthy set up process for this video I'm still glad I did it though

[@MarkMonolithOfficial]

Subscribers: How much gain? Tone Wars: YES Haha great demo and amp

[@alexanders5121]

Nice show Jarrod. How about compare this amp with other, example 5150 or driftwood, or mezzabarbara?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. if I had the amplifier here longer I could compare it to other amps but unfortunately it was only here for one night

[@kmkkorn420]

was their a gate in the loop?

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Revv G8 in 4cm

[@jahjah67]

That clean sound is one of the very best I’ve heard. Not that keen on the overdriven sounds- just not my taste.

[@ToysForNoize]

Signal chain? Mic / cab / speakers?

[@mr-goldfinger]

He’s running the guitar into a wireless into a huge pedalboard with a wah, volume, a bunch of overdrives, midi loop switcher, a bunch more pedals into the loop. Miles of cables going into a rack mounted head/cabinet switcher with another couple miles of speaker cables. For most videos, including this one he used a Mesa oversized 212 with UK V30s micd up with an SM57 and Royer 121 into a Focusrite Scarlet. I begged him not to hook all that stuff up for the demo but he wouldn’t listen. I believe that’s why he has to max the gain out and hit everything with an overdrive. All those pedals and cables are just killing the signal before the amp and in the loop. When I play the amp at home plugged straight in. It sounds fantastic. Super brutal. No fizz. No noise. No need for an OD and gain somewhere between noon and 2. I wish KZbin would let me upload a photo of everything he has running for this demo. Hey Jarrod. Why don’t you make a video and show everyone your entire setup? Better yet, explain your exact signal chain and show a quick photo at the beginning of each video so people know what they’re listening to.

[@christophershaski933]

yeah ya cant trust any of these reviews. They all sound like a fuzzy mess with no clarity@@mr-goldfinger

[@mr-goldfinger]

Here's what the amp really sounds like for anyone that's interested. Also working on putting together my own video since this guy butchered it so badly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6XWnI2aprmUjc0si=xz5kK5HuqYJYABjN

[@ronnieredneck9162]

There’s one on reverb right now .

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

I think there's 2?

[@Stereostupid]

Its basically another slo 100 ,5150

[@KaddysJamKave]

Yeah I dunno about this amp... sounds very sizzly, almost fizzed out and unpleasant to me surprisingly. I spose that could be a symptom of the chosen mic placement...

[@MaxPowersTastyTones]

I'm confused by the framerate

[@benburnett8109]

I am too. I tell Jarrod all the time to set the frame rate to 48khz and he says it works better at 44.1khz. Maybe he should set the frame rate to a 20-1 ratio with 50% reduction? AND set the buffer to 2048 samples? That should give the 44.1khz time to cycle up to 48khz and reduce the load on the 20-1 ratio?

[@ksimm1986]

Yikes!

[@paulmales1889]

Wow , sounds like a really cheap solid state amp , talk about a jar of angry bees .

[@HCUSAGUITARS]

I thought the second channel sounded better than the third

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Yeah channel 3 is a complete train wreck

[@justingraham8266]

Gain way to high

[@TheCyberMantis]

I get ear-fatigue watching these videos. Everything starts sounding the same after awhile. My butthole puckered when I saw the price of this amp. 😆 I think your EVH Stealth sounds better. I think the ENGL FE sounded better. Great job on the demo. You gave it a fighting chance. But it's just another high-gain tube amp that doesn't really live up to the "hype" or the "pricetag". I was also kinda disappointed with the MT100. I still like the BadCat LYNX. You could run 2 LYNX in a stereo config with two 2x12 cabs. Two LYNX would be cheaper than one Evil Pumpkin. 😉

[@mostheinous]

I hear some popping maybe turn the guitar back a little

[@user-by6eb6zo7g]

Good demo and dial in. This amp is not for me. Too much grind in the upper mids and very top'y. Low end is super tight...too tight for me. Probably cuts like nothing else in a mix though and I see why some would dig it

[@ronnymilianowicz5228]

Nope

[@TimWarren-rw3dc]

sounds like ass

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Not hearing anything especially unique about this amp

[@gearheadroom]

EVH stealth is better, Fortin sounds fizzy.

[@despot666]

Thanks for the demo. Cured my GAS. This thing does not sound good to my ears.

[@jaycroft638]

Sounds brutal, in a bad way lol. Jarrod couldn't polish this turd if he had it detailed. I hope he didn't catch whatever disease this amp was carrying.

[@jessemuscato]

Not hating on it but it literally to me. It sounds like a diavlo

[@karolkozak64]

i had been thinking what it reminds me of and you're spot on.. that fuzzy girthy sound in lower mids with almost recto like fizzy treble when you push the grind up... somehow i think it's meant for lower tuned guitars.. it's almost a bit nasty around standard tunings and on single note runs...

[@NocturnusMortem]

This amp is unpleasant

[@BruceWayne-vs4mz]

Too fuzzy buzzy. Sounds like an unboosted dual rec. 👎🏻

[@allmostbrothers]

So im a new subscriber and i wondered if you ever do combo reviews wanted to know your thoughts on a peavey delta blues or classic 50 or 30 amp

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

Thanks for subscribing! I usually just do amp head demos. I already have the cabs here and they're all mic'd up and hooked to my switcher.

[@allmostbrothers]

@@TONEWARSgearshow thankyou for the fast responce ! Very cool!

[@SilentScreamsStudios]

UUUMMMM FUCK MY LIFE. I love that amp, damn. I thought the engl savage 120 mk2, Purple Nightmare, and the REVV generator MK3 were sick. I love all 4 through.

[@TheLamboman640]

So this is the video where he was under so much “stress.” If he hated the amp he should have just said so. It’s an absolute beast of an amp and 1 of the best and meanest sounding amps out there.

[@TONEWARSgearshow]

First of all, you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, just because your Mommy didn't make your favorite smiley face pancakes for you this morning, doesn't mean you gotta come here and take it out on me and everybody else.

[@7n1s7er]

Meh...not worth the money imo, its basically a rectoverb

[@TimWarren-rw3dc]

not even that good, glad I didn't buy one.