Forza developers have lost their minds...

Some hot takes regarding the current state of Forza Horizon 5. The DLC's, graphics, updates, sounds and the convoy feature.
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[@Goosiest]

Question of the day: *How much have you spent on games this year?*

[@fe4r-z]

15$

[@HA_racing]

£150

[@TurkuazYamyam]

0$ I pirate them

[@imanalsheikhali4342]

120$

[@damir_r]

Too much goose. Too much.

[@tibornagyb4879]

If i wanted to get scammed i would just pay for iracing.

[@nikolaig1]

Shots fired😂😂😂

[@Twiggo_The_Foxxo]

How is the Forza scamming you exactly?

[@aaronwestley3239]

Good thing i got mine from ova games ;)

[@trainz8007]

@@Twiggo_The_Foxxo Stop

[@russelrust2753]

@@Twiggo_The_Foxxoride it a little more! Turn10 is getting close

[@HDailyPostCars]

Goosiest In The Last Few Weeks : - Complaining CarX - Complaining LagX - Complaining CarX - Complaining FH5 - Imposing BeamNG

[@Quesarr]

Lol true😂

[@beamngcrash134]

but its true that those games are bad and beamng is good. he's just being honest now

[@kmsadiq8665]

Fax

[@fabianwarchol3282]

But it's True LIKE compare FH5 updates and BeamNG updates

[@Croxy115]

well at least he's honest

[@FizzyTonic]

8:39 That last time I was blown away by a car game was BeamNG and it still blows me away. The only reason it's good because it actually has people who care about their game. Everyone who cared for forza was probably either fired or quite.

[@kataude3339]

it was need for speed heat me but maybe 3 month after make me vomit that i buy this and regret it now even with mod ect the game was dead in 1 year only 0 update nothing the game have horrible ai and it was fkcing easy you can do the game with fkcing golf gti

[@TE_53349]

beam ng is just getting better and better. it actually has a larger player base than carx and fh5

[@Bambeakz]

Automobilista 2 in VR for me

[@Samara99x]

Forza it’s gone shit bro, remember playing amazing horizon 1 on my 360 beautiful times 😢😢

[@Leon83858]

100% Agree they schuld remaster FH 1 & 2 with new textures, resolution & framerate and bring it on pc

[@Scratch334Original]

Lmao, thats funny how people are trying to say that old games are better even though its purely nostalgia based opinion In reality FH5 is literally on its peak rn, having tons of new VOTED cars added to the game and for the last 4 months devs have been absolutely cooking in terms of good cars being added in the game

[@deeperatmosphere]

​​@@Scratch334Original Dude it's no secret that the early games in every series are for the Player and fun.. meanwhile gaming changed in the last 5-10 years to an underdelivering greed infused Joke. They can deliver cars on weekly bases, when the Game doesn't work as promised or you have to go through a paywall everytime something new or nice comes that's just a sad Joke. That the new games deliver in the graphics department is true, but the fun factor is starving out in gaming.

[@Pet_Hedgehog]

@@Scratch334Original yes but for the time those games were amazing, fh5 compared to other racing games is shit

[@Dany126PL]

@@Leon83858 xenia exist if you want FH1 on pc. Also its not that easy as "just remaster" what if company that was in game don't exist anymore? You know how much pain is getting licences for not existing anymore companies?

[@guilhermes.pereira1671]

The downfall of forza started when devs started focusing on the ignorant major casual playerbase, whom don't minr paying for mid content and completely abandoned the car enthusiasts who made forza famous and loved in the first place. That's the problem with big companies nowadays, once they see the greens are starting to increase on their accounts, greed kicks in and all honesty and love for the content they produce is gone, the most famous case being EA, and now Microsoft is going the same way. The problem about mainstream triple A games nowadays is that they ain't made with love anymore, they're made and designed strategically to suck every penny out of the playerbase who have no other choice but to pay if they want to play with something new

[@ronnieketchum1241]

This happens to every single company. Too much success is NEVER good.

[@MathairuDragonOfTheEast]

its sad to know that the golden era of games is behind us yeah games look nice but most of the time nowadays you get an unfinished game or companies just out to make as much money as possible just like goose i remember a time where when you bought a game you didnt have to pay to unlock a integral part of a game you just had to work for it its just sad to see how these once mighty games have fallen into these paths

[@Goosiest]

facts

[@shogunmyoung9932]

Agree with it to some extent, but it is what it is.

[@wolfbad512]

It's not that bad

[@TheDude778]

Just like Activision did with CoD The battle pass and new bundles every day is ridiculous People pay $70 for a game then they want 100s more for extra shit that should have already been in the game from the start

[@beamngcrash134]

its not new that forza have lost their mind, it happens every time:) stay sideways!

[@facedays6441]

Hey there goose. I love you. But if i dont answer this comment in 1 day. I have endes my life. Bye

[@CaptainCringle]

@@facedays6441 lol what rlly is ur point in life?

[@poppachoppa8956]

@@CaptainCringle hes dead now move on

[@frazebean5117]

​@@facedays6441ok bro what ever

[@VarVarJeg]

imagine spending 180 dollars on a video game and you're STILL not getting the full game with every car!

[@nikolaig1]

Such crappp

[@baller5087]

what i like is goosiest have a goose plushie and also still have a steering wheel

[@emmanuelbhebhe4979]

Miss the days were first was about racing and finishing the game

[@DrexAW]

@@emmanuelbhebhe4979?

[@Duvstep910]

I bought the premium edition on sale and it pissed me off that the car is listed with its price as in game credits but when I clicked on it it took me to the store where I had to pay REAL MONEY. That's why we hate the DLC

[@dexstarksmarforcom7616]

You could have just paid the Xbox live thing with multiple games we have access to for free there’s nothing different between premium and the monthly subscription fee for the thousands of games literally no difference

[@7withadot]

@@dexstarksmarforcom7616 it's a great service and all but some people just want to OWN their games which is entirely fair

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

Shit lol I was about to come back and buy the car pass or ultimate, fuck this shit

[@dexstarksmarforcom7616]

@@FcoEnriquePerez it’s a waste and we still don’t have any explanation as to why they did that either

[@Joeliminator]

Goose is on a role roasting car games. Can't believe Forza would do this. Forsa Motorsport - trash. Now FH5 - scam

[@Goosiest]

Which game next?

[@Dany126PL]

​@@GoosiestCarX street.

[@Joeliminator]

@@Goosiest idk.... There are still many promising car games that have ample opportunities to go to the dark side

[@Humanbeing208]

​@@Goosiestneed for speed unbound

[@kjp3423]

​@@GoosiestI personally wanna see you play some other games. Non car related. Your reactions on a prop hunt game would be hilarious. This type of dev greed is everywhere on all types of games. With car games they have stripped the fun out of it with all of the restrictions.. I play car games because the California department of motor vehicles has stripped my freedoms as a car owner. But now the games feel like they have those same restrictions.idk what I'm talking about now.. BUT! Your following will go with you no matter what type of game you play. I know I will, and I hope none of this bs discourages you.

[@JimmyNuisance]

I wish Polyphony would release GT7 on PC and also make a Forza Horizon style open world Gran Turismo game. Forza is in such a sketchy place, it should be possible for Polyphony to just wipe out the entire franchise by releasing on PC.

[@Dany126PL]

GT7 is the worst GT, you don't miss a lot. Beside that PD (gt7 devs) are terrible either, like adding 3 10min races for whole month if not more...

[@TheEtherea]

In a sense it's easier to just run GT6 on an emulator in the meantime. But something tells me to with how Sony keeps releasing everything on PC there is a realistic chance.

[@mac-levin6167]

​@@Dany126PLwhat the literal fck is u saying!! This game is better Han it's predecessor GTSPORT! I guarantee u that uve never played the game. If those KZbinrs that lie to u about micro transactions are lying to u bro. I have played all gran turismo u could think of even the psp version and I can tell u that gt7 is not the worst gt franchise. All in all, I'm criticizing but not hating ur opinion in hating gt7 but all I ask you is to play the game. STOP YOUR IGNORANCE

[@Dany126PL]

@@TheEtherea Just run GT3/4 on emulator if you want Gran Turismo on pc.

[@KikuraKun]

No. No Forza Horizon style game on GT. It's garbage. It's trash. It's rubbish. Anything that is festival-focused. PD should give us Tourist Trophy back. If not, we have Omega Boost that's seen everywhere within (that trophy, FTO Touring Car).

[@DatWut]

All those comments stating that the DLCs should have been in the Premium edition are just wrong. The contents of the premium edition were announced from the start (car pass, VIP bundle, both expansions). Any further DLC released (such as the car pack) were not announced to be in the premium bundle. This is the same as working out a contract with a customer. You tell them what work you will be performing and tell them your asking price. Both sides agree to the contract, you fulfill your work and get paid. Suddenly, the customer asks for more work to be done, would you do it for free if said additional work has never been paid for nor was never worked out in a contract before?

[@Ferrari255GTO]

Premium edition maybe, but for the ultimate edition it's shamefull, they made us think we'd get any and all aditional content with it just to then make us pay more for a bunch of extra cars, wich is ridiculous and unfair, also it's not the customer asking for more work, they're doing the work after promising us something and then making us pay for it

[@DatWut]

@@Ferrari255GTO There is no "Ultimate Edition" for Forza Horizon 5. Only Standard, Deluxe and Premium. And while you are correct that we, as the players, are not asking for these DLCs, I see nothing wrong with them making those packs and selling them. You are not forced to buy the DLCs, you are not greatly missing out by not owning the DLCs. If anything I feel like the DLCs are more than far to cost money, especially when considering how many free updates the game has gotten, including some pretty big QoL changes (photomode update, Eventab 2.0, Eventlab Island). Also, as a sidenote: Forza Horizon 4 had an Ultimate Edition, and nobody complained that the Hot Wheels Legends Car Pack was not included in that pack back then.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

@@DatWut i don't know why i remembered the ultimate edition being a thing then, i just checked and you are very much correct. Still, the thing is that they make you think that you will have ALL of the aditional content with no extra charge, and then proceed to charge you for extra content

[@DatWut]

@@Ferrari255GTO Hm, no, I never thought that. Especially since, yet again, the included contents were mentioned right way. If despite this you believe you will get everything, you didn't read up properly most likely. Plus, maybe they never had the idea to release these car packs, but for whatever reason they changed their plan(s) for FH5, so... eh.

[@Ferrari255GTO]

@@DatWut more than likely they did not, and since the dev team changed for Motorsport (wich i'm not sure but i think it'll also affect horizon) i think they had to stretch the in-between time for the games and as a consequence are tryng to keep FH5 alive longer, wich is the main and only reason i'm buyng any of the packs, afterall i still want the franchise to grow as i believe it's got the best SimCade physics out there ever since Motorsport 3 and i'd hate to see it die. In fact many people complain that the physics engine is the old one but i see no need for a new one, if anything re-balancing the PI rating should be a bigger concern.

[@beamngcrash134]

forza devs right, their just greedy . They dont care about the playerbase, the community, no, none of that. They just care bout the money they make. Cuz they know that the players WILL pay to have fun but its just not right. They're being carx but WORSE rn. hope this shiet fixes soon.

[@Goosiest]

true

[@kmsadiq8665]

fax

[@shogunmyoung9932]

Highly disagree with this statement. Recent updates are of high quality and are highly request by the community as well. Do you think they would have done those updates if they don't care about their player base? I encourage you to educate yourself more about the game before saying that the devs do not care. A lot of new content they added into the game are well-received, added for the benefit of the community, and most importantly, FOR FREE. Do you think those updates will be free if they only care about money?

[@klemenvezonik7178]

@@shogunmyoung9932Well said. Thanks for the info as i almost believed that they were really like that

[@kataude3339]

@@shogunmyoung9932 they add only car 0 fkcing track on forza the sound is bad adn they know it because they shutdown one of the most used mod who make the engine sound real and backfire too ( and no i don't use mod to cheat but to have fun with aero kit and sound ) they car ok 2 years of playing only after 2 years i buy it this game make 3 races and that's all recent update are you serious bro THEY CARE ?????????? they add dinosaur on the creator tracks shit like wtf is this joke 18go of update to just 4 new car ok 0 kit on them only the cringe forza kit they just copy paste on every new cars and dinosaurs like wtf is this is this minecraft or forza ? because here i just see lazy dev make small thing and try to hype us to play 1 hour on their game to end the season to have 20 points because you already have the other cars oh and the fkcing bmw every one sell for 12M idk why and they talk about it they don't know why this is possible to buy 48K a car you can sell for 12M like wtf the cheater is ban xd but record still here they kill mods xd why it was the only cool and fun part to have reall engine sound where they care sell dlc when this is only car but name this dlc because if you go buy a CAR you would not buy this but if it's names dlc bmw you gonna buy this because you see only car but maybe they give you somethign else ect nope just car for 5$ you got 4 cars with 2 fun and good to use and the other suck they have player vs player but why play here you gain nothing ? you have 0 reward lmao but they don 't add this when many ask for this

[@shogunmyoung9932]

I would like to clarify something about the DLCs, content updates and other things about the game, especially the comments about those on Steam. First comment: Car Pass and Car Packs are separate things. Think Car Pass as like a separate car pack on its own, and not a collection of all the car packs. Car passes have different cars than all other car packs as well. Also people did complain about car packs not being in the 'Ultimate Edition' or Premium Edition. I would like to clarify that there is no 'Ultimate Edition' of FH5, only premium edition. Reason why people complain about DLC not being included is because in previous Forza titles used to include all DLC packs in the Ultimate edition of those previos Forza titles , whereas this time all DLCs have to be bought separately. This explains why DLCs usually have bad reviews, but I don't think they are of bad quality since all the cars in the DLC are new to the series, not just copy pasted from older games(licensing for these cars also cost money for them). I will admit that DLCs releasing monthly like this is a bit of an issue for them, but at the end of the day, people like me still buy them for the new cars. Not to mention the fact that they release DLCs alongside new quality updates that are free to everyone in the game(if they try to do this during the first year when the game has lackluster updates this would be even worse). I would also like to mention that older Forza Horizon games also have a lot of car packs for them too, just doesn't need to be bought separately if you own the ultimate edition for them. It really depends on whether you like these or not As for the game itself, I won't really comment as it comes down to personal opinion. I would agree to things like convoy systems and online, but I disagree with things like updates having low quality For updates, if you are talking about the first year of the game, then yes, the updates are bad, but since series 19, the updates have been of very high quality. Lots of cars that are not present in previous games, new content updates, quality of life changes, etc. Now the game is in series 33, and in between these 14 motnhs of update, all of them are well received, with the latest one being highly anticipated and as well. For the anti-lag and graphics, this is more of a personal thing. Anti-lag may not be as exciting as AC, and some people do like the graphics of older FH games. I personally like them as they are. In conclusion, I want to clarify some of the things you mentioned in the video, correct some mistakes and misconceptions, as well as give my personal opinions above there. My apologies for the long comment. As a Forza Horizon player since the day the game came out, I have seen the changes made to the game throughout, and I have seen other people talk about this game's past without knowing the full game too well. I am willing to help clarify any concerns that may arise. Thank you for the video, as always, and I hope you have a great day, Goosiest.

[@Goosiest]

Fair arguments, also something to mention is they are sponsored by some car brands, meaning some car brands pay money to Forza instead, not always the other way around.

[@shogunmyoung9932]

@Goosiest Yes that is true and I am aware of that. A lot of car brands, like Chinese car brands and Hyundai, paid for their cars to show up in the game. Still, that is not the case for all vehicles

[@corsa_velocity]

I agree with what you said. And for me at least, I don't think all of this is for greed. If it was for greed, then the Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR Pro, the '24 Mustang and the Nissan Tsuru would also be in a Car Pack. The devs need money to continue their service considering the game has been going on now for nearly 3 years and with no Expansions in sight, the optimal way for them to continue running and to give us a good sequel, is to release cheap DLCs alongside the normal game updates, which is also doing well. Like you said, having a new DLC every month is a bit of an issue for them, but at least it does not jeopardise the content people get for free. I am also on the same boat as you when it comes to the game itself. In my opinion, the quality of updates has only gotten better with new EventLab props, new features like Anti-Lag (which the devs kindly gave to us for free without the need for the Rally Adventure Expansion) and the free cars, despite some might not being everyone's taste, seems to be more themed and varied and looking at the next update, I don't think they will be slowing down anytime soon (literally lol). The colour filters also fits well considering it's location and the graphics is quite an upgrade from previous Forzas (the water spray is something I always like looking at). A nice video, but I think the issues comes down to what people expect rather than what is possible for a business.

[@shogunmyoung9932]

@@corsa_velocity Yep, I agree to what you said. People have different expectations and knowledge about the game, so they might see it differently. Also take into the fact that different updates cater different people(for instance photo mode updates really benefit those photographers, but not so much to others). It all comes down to how you play and enjoy the game, and I don't think it's as bad as some people might think it is

[@yusuftegar6588]

@@corsa_velocity I think the ultimate greed move would be by putting top 10 most requested cars by the players in the Forza forums into car packs. This is not something they have done at this point.

[@seeonec1]

missing the good old times where games were just 1 time purchase

[@simeonyves5940]

And were not Woke, and actually worked properly.

[@Dany126PL]

​@@simeonyves5940Woke isn't an actual word, it have no meaning so idk how games should stop being woke when such thing don't exist.

[@jochenkraus7016]

​@simeonyves5940 What's woke about FH5 and what does it have to do with the DLC strategy that the video rants about?

[@simeonyves5940]

@@jochenkraus7016 It Promotes Sexual Perversion! It also relates to just how downright wrong it is to Nickel and Dime us to Death then when the Game still has Extreme Pop In issues, Bleached Textures, Multiple Broken and Missing Animations, UV Mapping Errors, and multiple other Examples of a Game that is still in Beta!

[@Dany126PL]

@@simeonyves5940 Wtf? How?

[@Tobajz_Game8989]

True I don't like how all the big companies just want money and doesn't create better or new the small studios like beamng are growing because they do what the community likes they don't do it for the money

[@MbViper]

The unknown dude knows his stuff actually, he isn't defending Forza but he knows where the roots of the problem are , its the paying people that are making Forza devs do more of it , if no-one was to buy their shit things wouldn't have escalated to this point, don't blame the devs only but blame the people too who're literally just throwing money at em at this point , it sucks in general but ye if you're upset about something don't do it and let the devs burn in their own none bought crap .

[@Goosiest]

fair point

[@Gigglers46an]

Its sad that some cars are terrible and they make you pay 5 dollars and even more

[@dr.shikhaverma1878]

I remember the hype of this game, and FH4. Still remember playing Forza Street in 2020 and FH1 on my consoles. Kinda sad that now everyone making good things is behind money.

[@GeeseH]

I really liked TDU & TDU2 (not the handling physics so much on that one) and distinctly remember thinking if TDU2 had more DLC I'd probably buy it, Servers went down and the company went bust. Meanwhile GTAO went dumb with DLC and is still going strong after 10 years. They have to make money! It's unfortunately not as simple as devs being under a huge umbrella and thinking the parent company can afford it.

[@justsilent313]

The last time I got blown away by a video game was when I first played GT7 like I mean nearly everything is perfect. The graphics, the physics and the cars.

[@JubbLaRacing]

I dont see why this is a problem. They are just releasing optional dlcs. Id rather buy a dlc than grinding the Festival playlist.

[@JubbLaRacing]

Forza games before Forza Horizon 4 didnt have the Festival Playlist, instead they got monthly dlcs, and most people didnt complain.

[@OfficialDJSoru]

Truth be told, I'd prefer the playlist cars show up in the autoshow rather than exclusively in this stupid FOMO method that burns latecomers. Legit didn't buy FH3 on it's way out cause I knew I could no longer get many of the Porsches there

[@haaxxx9]

Buying virtual cars with real money is better than playing the game and unlocking the cars that are already in the game. Nice failed logic. No wonder modern racing games have become a painful boring chore that we already spent $60+ on appeals to the mindless casual crowd.

[@Simon-sl3jw]

the only car game I've been impressed with lately is The Crew Motorfest, I wish there were more frequent game updates that add new features but it's a generally fun game and nice new cars are always added for free.

[@VarVarJeg]

its dlc sold for full price, the map of tcm is way smaller than in tc2 and tc1, yep.

[@Simon-sl3jw]

@@VarVarJeg yeah I do wish the map was bigger too. I really hope another game releases like FH4 where the location has real seasons and a nice big map to drive in again.

[@berkkarsi]

I've never liked and will never like racing games that have cars as DLCs. Remember when racing games didn't have DLCs? Good times.

[@Pavk-vd9su]

If the developers get a contract with a manufcturer that they didnt have for the base game, i wouldnt mind if the said "Hey guys we just got X brand onboard our game with 5,6,7 new cars for 5 dollars/euros". I mean yeah why not

[@javierwey]

thanks for talking abt this. Forza is my most played car simulator and ive been disappointed in where its been going...

[@Raul-eh3kp]

Omg i remember playing horizon 1 on my 360 when it felt special those times just wanna make me cry

[@paradizegaming6311]

I think forza and Carx should take note especially for Carx because of Carx street Pc

[@Hopper-sh4jn]

The negative reviews are kinda of ridiculous because the car pass says it only covers the first year of the game 😐

[@GreenRanger090]

and on top of that, ultimate edition doesnt release until after the 1st year of release so the premium is the beat you can get for pre-order so you need to buy ultimate later so you can get the dlc later

[@petecopelandphoto]

love your vids btw I'm looking to get a mid-range sim drift setup any suggestions? ❤

[@umberella1033]

stopping kids from saying first

[@umberella1033]

@@PizzaBooy By getting the first comment

[@csabazombori9862]

Stpid idea

[@didyouknowiammyself]

atp people like u are the kids here

[@index8528]

i hope forza dont die soon... the money is getting everyone crazy D:

[@jeffreylove6415]

Im waiting on the new test drive unlimited solar crown to come out to teach forza that you dont need dlc to have a good game

[@kireta21]

The only valid reason to complain about new paid content would be if it was at cost of new free content, which it's not the case. Playlist rewards are still coming strong, and we still have more cars than any previous Forza. Good point about saying that what is in Car Pass, and what is not, isn't obvious to new to Forza players, though. I wouldn't pull the trigger on purchase without checking what's in package, but that's apparently too much caution for many, since some people don't even read through main page, before breaking out credit card. Btw, monthly DLCs was how cars were added in FH1-3, there was no festival playlist, almost all new cars were paid content. The only difference was PG would start launching them from day 1, not 2 years after release.

[@kisumiri]

The only way that regular paid content and microtransactions work is in free to play games, not a $60 AAA game

[@kyakuloreto]

make a BeamNG video racing against Muye, pleas

[@AbisaiNkoshi]

Goosiest you don’t have the energy anymore

[@Goosiest]

gotta start drinking more coffee then

[@Maverick56912]

i agree

[@Chazzemm]

Chill on the coffee if you do lol :)

[@YakamaKrishnaJayanthVarma]

@@Goosiest nah mate, drink red bull , red bull gives u max verstappens

[@FatswellSmart]

@@YakamaKrishnaJayanthVarma can confirm this comment

[@superninja252]

I do agree with they exagerating with the DLCs each month, but i respectfuly disagree with the rest They had done good free DLCs and bringing new free stuffs each month, specially if you use eventslalb that is a hell of a great feature If i was T10/PPG, i would had just did like halo infinite and made a season 2 carpass, at price of original for more 6 months, would had cashed in the same amount of money they need to continue the updates while not annoying the players that are likely annoyed with how Forza Motorsport was as wel

[@user-sk8we2tg2t]

When you bought the game, you got the whole game with all of the features and hundreds of cars, the only difference between old games and new games is that now the new games are allowing you to get MORE content after the release for those who want it. If you want a ton of new cars in Forza Horizon 6, you have to understand that the licensing costs a ton, which means the cars need to be introduced in FH5 for an additional cost in order to fund the next game. It isn’t corporate greed, it’s literally just making it possible to produce another game. The only people who are greedy are the people who demand tons of new cars that were never promised to be added to the game for free and expect that to make sense financially for a game studio.

[@rngguardian2801]

I’m happy paying for basically only a new map every couple of years and more modern cars but when the game came out I specifically payed extra for the premium edition thinking I’d get all the cars, I’ve got no problem doing challenges for cars that helps make the game fun but I don’t want to have to pay for car dlc’s when I only want to use one or maybe two of the cars in them and when I’ve already payed extra for a “premium” version of the game.

[@bosyogurtlight]

I completely agree with you about the sounds. Forza Horizon 3 HUMILIATES 5 in the sound department. FH3 is so crisp and powerful, driving over water is an eargasm with headphones, while FH5 sounds so dull and low quality for some reason, like if the mics they used there were a decade older than what they used for FH3

[@TshloP]

Hey @Goosiest, quick question: Why haven't you gotten a whel stand yet?

[@simon7288]

They don't understand their customers, i'm a seasoned player, where do they want me to use these DLC cars ? i've completed all the races ! i purchased all the DLC cars up to the Chinese car pack, there is no way in the world i'm buying any more especially every 4 weeks, how about updating the game with new tracks, map extension etc.

[@Eagle-vd7yq]

I didn't mind the car packs at first , I said: they needed to fund the team until it got excessive if they at least included some of them in the premium I wouldn't mind at all PS: I have the premium and I'm getting mad at the moment every time I see a new car pack

[@MertUtku.]

Cool video ❤️ Hey Goosiest its me Çocukadam idk if you remember me from your other videos that one i was behind at a billboard i just wanted to say thank you. You inspired me to get a steering wheel its coming soon and i will play with it watching your vids.I hope you get to better places.

[@Goosiest]

Cheers, mate!

[@IamMortui]

The reason I stopped playing. Back when the game came out I bought the premium edition for $100. Years later they come out with tons of DLC packs (basically microtransactions) soon after they've already collected everyone's money. Never buying another game from them again.

[@MiksuMike]

Forza in general is indeed doing the bare minimum. Because they can. Forza doesn't have any competition and they know that. Why put all that hard work, effort, innovation and time when there's no competition. Players HAVE to play Forza Horizon, cuz ther's no other option atm. You could argue Crew Motorfest but... that imo is just more or less the same shit Crew 2 was. Hoping for TDU solarcrown or AC EVO to change things up so Forza can't get a way with doing the bare minumum

[@jeffreylove6415]

Firstly last racing game that blew my mind was tdu2 and kinda hoping once the new tdu sc comes out hopefully turn 10 and playground games will learm they can't just copy and paste the same game different map

[@RocketRat8YT]

That's exactly why my strategy for Forza Horizon 5 has been standard edition but to buy the expansions as soon as they come out, but no extra cars, mainly because they are absolutely crummy and are only drivable online (online solo/multi both)

[@boiiison1523]

Bro Iam so happy forza horizon 4 is still supported cause more people own it and play it rather than horizon 5 plus imo its just a better game lol it had a better map plus much better dlc

[@Bordan-The-Jordan]

yeah it can be annoying, in fact outrages that it's not in the premium addition, but the good news is, is that it is not pay to win, the game still has not hit mobile EA badness yet and it's still a forza horizon game that is very fun.. i really do think that it was just cause turn 10 wanted to join the trend of "car packs" from all the other car games besides gran tourismo lol, the thing that mostly scares me though is the future of forza because jesus christ, forza customs should speak for itself what the dev's might have in store for the future

[@TheN3ckol]

Better new cars for money than nothing. Ppl forget that somebody has to create that car and put it into the game... I mean... FH5 is the biggest arcade race game ever happened to us and its 99$ on premiere in premium edition. C'mone guys. This is not a game for a week or two like other nfs/td/grid games.

[@AkiRalcolf]

Still. Stale gameplay, and overrated ASF. And that's a fact

[@TheN3ckol]

@@AkiRalcolf cant agree with that - its not a fact - its your opinion. Still the best open world racing game.

[@AkiRalcolf]

@@TheN3ckol It is from damn experience. So stop circle jerking this game already.

[@spargeltyp]

whats ur favourite steering wheel / shifter / handbrake that youd recommend me (im on pc) and where did u get that cute asf goose from

[@charlieboynton6825]

it's called "DLC" for a reason they arent gonna put it in the Carpass because its different thing. DLC's are meant to be new stuff added to the game that the users can buy. Carpass is meant to be something close to a "Battlepass" where you can unlock cars on days the release some

[@CitRone]

One of the Achievments is to take a Picture of all cars - while they are adding new cars all the time you have to buy them to at least complete the whole game itself

[@MilesFox92]

People on Reddit be like "brooo it's always been like that in all forza games, therefore its okay!!". I thought that I'm losing my mind by being an only person, who doesn't support this DLC BS, but thankfully I finally found another person with actual brains in the head.

[@ImJusSha]

I don’t even have the game I knew what it was from the jump, most I’ve spent on a game from steam is trucking simulator for the new maps but that’s about 100$ in total

[@etelelesperance5394]

I feel like most of forza horizon 5's playerbase has atarted its drop since last year and i think its because the fans how repetative forza really is

[@andrei_opr7246]

I pre ordered fh5, with one thing in mind: I'm buying the most expensive one so I don't have to pay any additional penny on a virtual car or map dlc...a mistake I'm deeply regretting even to this day.

[@Mr_nobodyknows]

I wish that i had an steering wheel,gearbox,peddles for Ps4 from 2 years but even i don't have an steering wheel 😢

[@leepylee8026]

I remember spending £150 on Forza Motorsport 4 on the xbox 360. Feel done over even to this day lol. I see your point on FH5, i bought premium on release and yeah ive spent a lot of money on the game but, it still applies to most games today including Assetto Corsa, Rfactor2 etc....

[@thequietkiddo587]

Currently (At least in Poland) FH5 Standard costs as much as FH4 Ultimate, which is insane, considering its the same game with fancy changes that could all just be an update or DLC, and this is sure not improving things. Oh yeah, this is ON SALE too, not even full price

[@njjx8800]

Don’t forget the latest patch just killed sound mods. All imported engine sound mods basically died. The lack of support for mods is killing this game for me

[@bxztd7565]

the new update that we are getting next month have rumors about having a dragster. that thing prolly gonna be in a carpack with a pricetag up to $10

[@Alex-yt8gn]

No it isn't it's the first playlist series reward car so you can get it for free, just by playing the game.

[@NikosM112]

This is the reason i only play f2p racing games. Such as rocket racing. It's arcade/futuristic, but an infinite amount of content such as new cars and maps released for multiplayer every month.

[@supremacy98]

It's not the first time they did it. The ultimate edition never guarantees all DLCs. I think in FH4, there's a few dlc packs not included, and it's even worse in FH3. I remember being so pissed that paying over a hundred dollars for the ultimate edition does not get you the 2 expansion packs and many more DLCs!! Yeah so honestly I'm not complaining as much as last time since it's much worse last time, I think this time it's just exaggerated because these DLCs are coming out years after FH5 release

[@Smisky]

Goose, do you have enough information about the new Assetto Corsa Evo game to make a video about?

[@abdulbasitkhan2668]

Completely agree with you here goosiest but can you tell me if you have any expectations for Test drive Unlimited Solar Crown? I'm expecting for it to bring a change in car games for once what do you think?

[@Goosiest]

no idea what to expect

[@youssefmohamed8990]

Gotta love his honesty, he doesn't care about anything but how he and the playerbase feel about the game, common goose W

[@Trickymilk]

Daaamn goose is starting to roast greedy companies, what a W

[@realx1870]

Make a video like this on the crew motorfest !

[@naus9067]

I got Ultimate and I thought exactly as you said when buying it. "Hey, I wanted to try this game for years, now that I have proper PC, let's see how good it is. And since I wanted so goddamn long, I will get most expensive version to have full game experience will everything there is in this game". Now turns out I need to pay even more for some garbage cars.

[@Sakurubii]

This is just the reason why I stop having any kind of favours with the game, the greedy practices the route forza has gone is just abhorrent... People already have the expensive edition of the game, why spend more? It's just sad. I'm glad that you is speaking about this because it's a shame people are just defending them with their greedy practices...

[@Jon64scale]

Goosiest and bob I totally agree Forza has been falling off big time in the last couple years and has been slacking with the DLC 's just putting out crappy cars I mean give us some good cars like a Toyota Chaser JZX100 or a JZX90 , more rare JDM cars like Toyota , Nissan , Mazda or even some Euro stuff we actually want and will enjoy instead of crap cars just to make money and as always keep up the great work 👍

[@szaweu]

Bought FH5 Ultimate Edition in pre sale, never regretted any purchase this much

[@how2pick4name]

6:23 "People can see right through the bs". The fact that there even still IS DLC that you can buy makes that statement so frigging funny. You're getting what you asked for kids.

[@Goosiest]

true I guess yeah

[@how2pick4name]

@@Goosiest This is why I like you.

[@adamkamel9046]

I bought the premium edition when it was the most expensive edition, it's so unfair to have to pay to unlock cars

[@shadi2047]

I got attacked on reddit by the childish cultists because I spoke against the total cost of DLCs against the whole game + its cars + 2 DLCs. Their reason is many gamers jumped on game pass wagon, but all of them failed to provide any source of any reliable statics of what they've said 😅

[@jayparmar139]

At lest you own the game unlike ubisoft which can put down the game anytime and won't provide a offline patch of the game

[@dragonbooster9305]

i actually was excited for forza 5 but after getting it i actually regretted buying it i didnt play forza for like more than a year now coz of this

[@elitef40]

No wonder FH5 never had a premium edition.

[@BananaStudios-zq5uh]

The sentence "They are milking us" is going to get into a out of context compilation

[@pixelrealmz2k]

To be honest I would rather put my money in The Crew Motorfest as I did, and I'm glad that I switched games, it's sad that FH5 has become this...

[@lordgammadonkaargon2830]

the best part is that steam told me about a "free" dlc in fh5. i dubble checked all the dlcs. not one fas free...

[@romualdocaseroles9664]

This a good and constructive critic video. Thanks goose, hope they hear the community

[@Riptidee]

i feel like calling car packs downloadable content is a stretch. you are paying for new cars, you are basically buying cars. DLC’s are typically new content not added item packages, regardless of the game it’s like paying for a new gun skin. Gun skins aren’t DLC’s, and new GTA 5 cars aren’t DLC’s, so why does forza get away with it? because yall buy it (i do not) i’ve been going back to old forza’s. and it’s sad to not be able to play old Forza games online. and i also can’t get FH1 on Xbox store digitally now.

[@Tai-lahRosenbrock-kavanagh]

Love the content please keep it up

[@ryuukiv7]

Last time i'm blown away with racing games is when Gran Turismo 7 released, it's a great game, and better in many aspects from previous game

[@prod.d3kt]

meanwhile i installed the game (from a friend account) and i can't finish the prologue without 50 crashes. If u search the internet its full of errors and crashes.

[@justaguy5791]

bought the ultimate edition before launch of the game and enjoyed every single dlc the forza devs have released after bought every monthly dlc aswell basically the full game and i dont see the issue with it all i can see is the people who complain about new dlc cars not being included into the car pass which was a great car pas for 34 WEEKS!!!!!!!! are all poor and cant spend 5 euros on 4 new car models never seen in most other games

[@justaguy5791]

plus the forza player numbers are wrong cuz you can only see steam players when the game launched most people bought it on MS store cuz it wasnt on steam from the start so i think you comparing forza to assetto is wrong

[@sloppydiflopp]

MIssed Bodykits and Carparts for the Most Cars.. Thats a Big Problem in Forza

[@Justmyself697]

Clearly they forgot to add the dlc cars to the car pass. I bought it and welp, last car I got was the 2022 370Z. Think it was the 2022.

[@dadacosmo29]

It's great to know that even those days someone actually says their own opinion without any bs

[@1MCS]

they should just bring 2 game versions (standard and premium) and two DLC's (one every year) - and nothing more... better focus on bringing a new Horizon title every two years instead of three and focus on that... the greedyness is gonna kill this company in the long run. just my opinion

[@way.better12]

Love your videos ❤

[@etelelesperance5394]

Just a daily reminder, guccist is the most subscribed astonian youtuber on KZbin that does drifting videos.😊

[@baconheadhair6938]

8:44 When i saw CARX3 i was blown away

[@lungamhlonga8713]

Where is the stay sideways , Peace!!

[@dataps5346]

4 was popping until the end of it’s lifetime, 5 been dry as it’s desert since it dropped

[@Joshua-vv3my]

Have you ever done a video on the Hot Wheels map?