Forza Horizon 5 | BEST S2-CLASS CARS (Top 10🔥)

[@Johnson_Racing]

What was your favorite moment?😂 Join us on Discord to be part of the races: discord.gg/k8Bs6Rg

[@xboxbenny]

I'm still working on fine-tuning an Ultima 1020 tune for S2. RWD 1257 hp, 1275 lbs.

[@furyofstorm2852]

Hey Johnson! I'm Fury of Storm, glad I was able to participate! I really enjoyed this online racing session even though it was my first one :P and I'm really sorry for the divebomb at 5:02 it wasn't my intention hahaha, gg and nice driving mate!

[@EenGamer.]

Thank you good sir that dive bomb saved me 🙏🏻

[@furyofstorm2852]

@@EenGamer. hahah, I lost the control of the rear on the corner before and couldn't avoid it 😂 you raced pretty well on the session mate, cheers!

[@Johnson_Racing]

Legend! :D

[@Johnson_Racing]

LOOOL, just saw the tree moment at 6:25😂🙌

[@chenhe669]

I can't believe that nismowasher's tunes become popular, I remember I met him when playing GTAV and R6S. we became friends since about 3 years ago. now I haven't play with him for half a year for exams. He is a man with a cute voice

[@Johnson_Racing]

I wanna hear his voice now!

[@goronimus304]

CLK-GTR with an S2 dirt tune is absolutely unreal. It handles on dirt like it would on pavement.

[@dzevox]

Thank you for featuring me! Really glad you enjoy my tunes :D also I would like to add my favorite which is TVR Speed 12

[@Johnson_Racing]

thanks for the good tunes! :)

[@Andr3_E90]

Loving my ccgt in online races, almost feels like cheating 😂

[@andi7847]

How do get in s2 online reces evry time i go in open racing theres only B or a class

[@bryaneisenbach6651]

@@andi7847 sadly, I think you just have to get lucky and join a s2 lobby

[@Andr3_E90]

@Jairyx not racing S2 much lately, focusing more on A and S1. The Nio has probably the best grip in S2 but it's too slow on straights in most of the tracks. Maybe try different setups for the ccgt, never had understeer problems with mine

[@r7goatdjdu]

where can i find the ccgt its not on the market or autoshow

[@dietervanvollenstee4389]

@@r7goatdjdu auction house mybro

[@MrJohecker]

Lamborghini Sesto Elemento FE is pretty damn good in S2 too

[@ben2cameron]

911 GT1 Strassenversion holds multiple S2 Dirt WRs, including River Scramble. In my hands it's 1 second a lap faster than the Mosler, I'm inside the top 10 on that leaderboard.

[@xboxbenny]

Funny how something called Street version (strassenversion) is so good for offroading! I love that car for S1 road races.

[@Ogudomon]

In FH 4 it's also a great S2 Dirt car.

[@Casper-lh2lb]

hi! i couldn’t find the ccgt tune that you used, did it get removed?

[@surtees__]

the ferrari F40C is also a great AWD speed car with some handling (obv. also great launches for online)

[@Johnson_Racing]

yeah, decent :)

[@Secretguy2078]

Bruh the canyon run is fun as hell on that, I got a 2:16 but it took me so many tries

[@demongameryeet]

Ive become quite a fan of using the NIO EP9 for S2 class road racing, it's quite similar to the KTM X-BOW GT4, terrible on straights, but a lot of cornering ability, it's just fun to use what can i say

[@kameronkingsbury9386]

Well done video sir. This was my 1st viewed vid from your channel. I needed some more ideas for card online. Thanks friend!

[@Johnson_Racing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hyclep640]

5:58 I lost controll of my car there lol sorry :D

[@Johnson_Racing]

SHAME ON YOU :D

[@rysi0k110]

Aston Martin Vulcan AMR pro is also a really good handling car

[@Johnson_Racing]

yeah it's decent. :)

[@UltimateGraphics]

Wow, thanks. Im loving my CCGT and was curious if you would mention it here. Turns out its your favourite too. Cheers

[@Johnson_Racing]

you already did it right my friend :)

[@zenjagamerpants2542]

Thanks for the suggestion! I used the Koenigsegg CCGT (Tuned by nyasmowasher on 01/15/2023) to get 00:46.513 (1520 top 1%) on Estadio Circuit :D Which if you remove cheaters from the leaderboards, that's probably under 1000-800 placement or something

[@Johnson_Racing]

happy to help! :)

[@Thai_sweeps735]

Ok johnson i fell your tooo underated this content is amazing and these tips really help, Thank you

[@gramba9114]

for VIP-members the BMW X5 M FE is great for cross country or dirt. but the rs200 is great as well thats right ( i use tunning from Grandma Driving)

[@skidooking2423]

What was the runners name for the Apollo wp? Please help

[@thechadmartinez]

How did you go to race online like that? Were you in a convoy? Or can it be done without a convoy?

[@EenGamer.]

I really liked the part where he yeeted you at 5:03 because my Aston Martin had an even lower top speed of 320kmh 😬

[@renatocampos5592]

What is the name of that roadrunner sound honk at 1:27

[@GatitoCarreras]

nice video as always great content

[@Johnson_Racing]

thanks mate!

[@MyLostToys]

Hi it's good to see you in FH5 :)

[@Johnson_Racing]

Hello there!

[@PoRRasturvaT]

Is the Hyuara FE comparable to the Zonda R? And is the CLK GTR FE too?

[@Johnson_Racing]

no :)

[@Aceperformance370]

Thanks for the vid mate! What’s your opinion on the AMG ONE? Haven’t seen any reviews on it as an S2 car? I’m guessing that means it’s extremely average?

[@jahnj2523]

I think it's average honestly I don't like it

[@qmass]

appreciate the addition of share codes to the spreadsheet

[@Dexxex]

The tuningcodes dont works anymore... At least for the F50 GT it dont works :/

[@ShockLive]

Has the list changed now that it has been a month? Specifically if the tunes are still holding up now that creators have had more time to create theirs and players finding new and better cars?

[@Johnson_Racing]

These are still the best. :) Maybe some tunes have been adjusted a bit though.

[@HyperSonic-NFS]

Which is better though, the Ferrari F50 GT or the Koenigsegg CCGT?

[@Johnson_Racing]

CCGT as long as the straights aren't long

[@sharathvasudev]

@@Johnson_Racing exactly ccgt turns on point. f50 is faster in high speed corners.

[@maltesowociasteczkowy582]

I remember Mosler from fm4 the beast on nurburgring on class R1. What car you guys prefer on clas B?

[@UnderwaterAlexJones]

Here's a little spreadsheet protip to not have to do the tedious stuff like add a new row and such as I see you're doing at this moment along with making it much cleaner to look at. First off, remove all the rows to the right, simple enough we're just removing empty space and cleaning it up then once you've done that, highlight the entire first row [class,car, creator,ect] click view and then freeze that row so now that each column can be sorted now add the PI# like 800, 900, 998, 999 in front of its class so it reads as example 900 S1-Class You can now sort all the cars in column B with the Arrow A-Z Then do the exact same with column A You can remove the empty gaps between classes now Now you just need to enter data the sort B and then A by the sort by A-Z dropdown function and no longer have to add a row every time you add a new car to the sheet, saving you data entry time which we all know sucks and any time save is worth doing.

[@Johnson_Racing]

Thanks!

[@UnderwaterAlexJones]

@@Johnson_Racing no problem, as im sure you're gonna end up doing a b-class set soon and this should save you 5-10 minutes on data entry alone for that.

[@noxiuz]

wow that MW2 soundclip

[@GinoDRIVE]

Joined the discord! Thanks for the video. I'm trying to find a good car for a while and i own 2 from the video so deffinetly going to check out the tunes

[@sharathvasudev]

911 btw is s2 dirt beast. rs200 can be beaten by 3 to 4 seconds easily. especially if it has tarmac part it's even faster

[@Sennar_]

please will you do it with class B too?

[@Johnson_Racing]

it's likely :)

[@TheLawnMowingMan]

The AMR Vulcan Pro is rlly good for s2 class as well but mainly for circuits.

[@slum66]

thats the car I use and its a beast, i dont even have to brake in some corners

[@alexnicorosas1877]

Nice video keep it up btw can u do a tutorial about tuning for x class or under

[@GatitoCarreras]

i really wish there was more competitive options for s2 dirt, being forced to use the RS200 to have a chance it’s boring, the only best option is the Lotus GT1 but that’s it unfortunately or anyone know another option

[@Johnson_Racing]

tbh S2 dirt shouldn't be a thing at all. :D

[@GatitoCarreras]

@@Johnson_Racing thanks for the response take care great day!

[@Secretguy2078]

The fxxk that they just added is also fun it doesn’t grip as much as the sesto elemento but easier to control imo

[@magicmonkey5144]

I used to be very competetive with the AM Vulcan in FH4, sad to see its not good anymore ):

[@wheelsdeal]

What about ther Aston Martin Vulcan AMR Pro?..Pretty good on tight corners.

[@Johnson_Racing]

dies on straights unfortunately - even more than CCGT and Apollo

[@MajorCharlieCheese]

The brabham bt62 is a dlc car but it has the best handling of any car except for the bad to the blade with a top speed do 230 mph on s2

[@GHSTDEEJ]

@Johnson Racing Could you stick the share codes in your spreadsheet for the other tunes aswell please? tunes don't unshare atm which is mega frustrating. i've got like 5 of the same one on a drift car >

[@Johnson_Racing]

yes will add these over the time

[@GHSTDEEJ]

@@Johnson_Racing Thank you

[@Adzzz-pg8ot]

Why do you guys always use the hold my hand line do you put the sides up when you go bowling

[@Johnson_Racing]

because I also use training wheels on my bike.

[@Adzzz-pg8ot]

@@Johnson_Racing 👍 born to be wild!!!

[@Sasha_87_Oo]

Hey Johnson nice work just wanted to say that the adjuster name that made the apollo s2 on your spreads shit disapeared his name is not anymore in search 😕

[@Johnson_Racing]

thanks for letting me know :)

[@juliano094]

How are you getting the RWD cars to launch clean?

[@Johnson_Racing]

throttle control at the start

[@floppydonger1189]

i know it may seem dumb but i like D,C,B cars too hope you do a vid and sheet on those man

[@Johnson_Racing]

B is likely happening, rest probably not.

[@POD48]

Curious as to why the MC12 isn't in here, i've been using it and ripping the online lobbies

[@Johnson_Racing]

because you're OP! ;)

[@kodypastian774]

I also love the Aston Martin Vulcan AMR!!!

[@Johnson_Racing]

Nice handling car :)

[@CODCAOS]

Very happy that Mosley is extremely fast at fh5. On fh4 I loved him in class X s2 he was not so good =(

[@denm6893]

I had a great S2 tune for the mosler with the stock engine. Mr Strok3anova if your ever on. It's hard to go back to horizon 4 though, lol.

[@PiMi91]

can't find the nyasmowisher tune, can you please share the code? edit: found the spreadsheet in description, after inserting the code, the tune didnt applied...

[@Johnson_Racing]

it worked when I did it yesterday.

[@PiMi91]

@@Johnson_Racing maybe he deleted it, idk...

[@EFC_BRIZIO]

Thx boss!

[@Johnson_Racing]

you're welcome!

[@09MENIM3]

How come there is no Sesto Elemento FE or Vulcan AMR? I dont know how they fair in top 0.5% but they are definitely easy to learn so should be worth a mention? :D

[@Johnson_Racing]

What you said. They're easy to handle, especially the Vulcan, but not that good competition-wise.

[@VerticalStrafes]

So RWD is only good for power builds again right ?

[@Johnson_Racing]

In S2 yes

[@VerticalStrafes]

@@Johnson_Racing Shame

[@loicsanchez9974]

i tried the zonda R u told, isnt that much fast in accelerating and kinda sucks in corner it slides even driving clean

[@squaretriangle7277]

Do you have traction control on?

[@anthonybrown3363]

No way 🤣...zonda is a Sprint monster

[@loicsanchez9974]

@@anthonybrown3363 well idk bro I'm not new at the Forza series and never drives a worst Zonda R in all this years

[@anthonybrown3363]

@@loicsanchez9974 gotta have traction control on

[@loicsanchez9974]

@@anthonybrown3363 TC Is for pussies 😂 always without, isn't a problem of traction is a problem of stability, I guess stability control I must put with that car

[@kamil89jbl]

Can't find Apollo tuning, deleted?

[@Johnson_Racing]

checked, it's still there.

[@rkade2005]

how you even play online road races. whenever I select free racing in the online menu I get cross country races :(

[@Johnson_Racing]

Just quit and search again :D

[@onyxium1]

Yayyyy now s2 horizon open is going to be flooded with meta

[@Johnson_Racing]

yayyyyyy

[@mindstateblunted]

im actually suprised the vulcan is not in the video... might be slow on straights but its insane in corners

[@Johnson_Racing]

yeah but it's so slow on the straight that it's not even one of the fastest cars on handling tracks :D

[@lacosebes2365]

How you record perfect quality 1080p??

[@Johnson_Racing]

Elgato Capture Card connected to my Xbox

[@canergacal6430]

How do i race only road s2 or s1 class?

[@Johnson_Racing]

not possible at the moment :(

[@ravenstylea2]

Wow! Is the CCGT still your best S2 pick!

[@larryhouse8358]

I have a built and tuned Senna. And it's pretty damn good. Until I go up against those damn CCGTs. Theyre in a league of their own in s2

[@Johnson_Racing]

If you can't beat them, join them! :D

[@merdullah]

How about AM Valhalla? It sticks to surface, amazing cornering, amazing acceleration, just lacks top speed.

[@Johnson_Racing]

Good on handling tracks, but not very good due to the lack of acceleration and speed.

[@merdullah]

@@Johnson_Racing yes unfortunately.

[@danielb2225]

Sesto elemento not good for S2?

[@Johnson_Racing]

only decent, not more

[@chutus8719]

Please show us your configuration in this new forza :)

[@alexcardenas6279]

I have been testing with the tvr cerebra it’s got serious potential

[@motorpolitan8884]

I spent the last two weeks tuning my RWD Koenigseggs to perfection but sadly still not as good as the Mosler.

[@Ogudomon]

F50 GT i think it's the sweetest spot for online indeed, i used this car for Rivals overall together F40C and CCGT. I don't consider myself a good driver, my tuning style totally oriented to Grip, as well i play on automatic... All that i can say is... She's amazing. For Middle speed circuits like Cooper Canyon, she gave me a top 100 rivals. Which is okay imo since i lack in many stuff. S1 videos in cross country part gonna be funny... Mclaren Senna, TVR Speed 12, Porsche 917 LH, Lola T70 and my favorite Cross Country car right now, the Ford GT40 MKII. I did almost all rivals with that car on S1, it's superb imo.

[@Johnson_Racing]

sounds nice! :)

[@xiangwang4610]

This generation is likely to update zonda GR later.😉

[@pkrskinkaphant4612]

The regular Apollo ie is also pretty similar in performance to the Apollo wp.

[@Johnson_Racing]

definitely!

[@UnderwaterAlexJones]

Watching before.. wait, nvm...AS the spreadsheet gets updated.

[@Johnson_Racing]

I'm slow :D

[@UnderwaterAlexJones]

@@Johnson_Racing see the other comment I posted a few minutes ago, will speed up your data entry time my dude.

[@hellwashere3821]

Can you do Best cars for dirt and mixed? especialy S2

[@Johnson_Racing]

Watch the video wisely and you'll get your info😍

[@hellwashere3821]

@@Johnson_Racing yes i get what u say but i was hoping for a dedicated video to REAL off road cars, like trucks, pickups and overall anything that isnt a road car just with a dirt tune :D but thanks for the video , it was very helpful! I dont have time to test so many cars, u do the work for us thanks !

[@DKTrue]

@@hellwashere3821 it’s really limited. That’s why S2 dort was removed in FH4

[@hellwashere3821]

@@DKTrue i see that makes sense

[@h4rshturtle456]

Hot tip found it out today the porsche 911 straßenversion is very good in s2 dirt way easier to drive than the hoonigan

[@JarJarBinkz68]

they still haven't fixed the low res shape shifting vegetation.

[@Johnson_Racing]

it actually looks good in game. Might be KZbin. :)

[@qmass]

I badly need a video with at least one handler and one speed for D, C and B because fuck those classes. Save me horizon jesus.

[@M0N573R11]

Hey isad just released a 45 min video with tunes by a guy named kapienPL for offroad stuff and they have potential to be best in class you should check out his tunes when u get time

[@Johnson_Racing]

hey mate, yes I also included some of his tunes on my spreadsheet already. Thanks! :)

[@gabrielabreu5200]

Im using a awd mosler, and its a Very good all rounder

[@Johnson_Racing]

sounds great!

[@DRAGON-dg8rl]

Sesto fe :- Hmm interesting

[@M.SAM79]

Thnx

[@azerdylan94]

Best B class cars soon ??

[@Johnson_Racing]

perhaps :)

[@B3LoW_aVeRaGe]

Whyd you have to go and tell everyone about the ferrari f50 gt lol

[@Johnson_Racing]

are the lobbies filled with it now? :D

[@thatboylookcold5572]

first step- find an s2 race

[@harisjaved1379]

Ferrari F50 GT is the best S2 car. It can be tuned with all 10, and 9.8 in speed

[@Johnson_Racing]

these stats don't matter, mate :)

[@harisjaved1379]

@@Johnson_Racing OH shoot! Lol well that’s not good. How do we get accurate stats? Somewhere in game files?

[@Johnson_Racing]

@@harisjaved1379 Basically just by testing. :)

[@lsoldeMaduschen]

Some cars have 10 in speed and go up to 380 and others only have 7 in speed but go above 400, and depending on your driving style and preference like johnson said you can only find out by testing it yourself, i'd recommend to chose a few "test" tracks you can always test on and comapare, one for handling, one for speed and a mixed one

[@h4rshturtle456]

@@lsoldeMaduschen yo i drive the pagani zonda c in s1 dirt ot has 4.9 speed and goes up to 387 so those stats ar ejust dumb as always

[@avatar94100]

I will master the Mosler

[@nicoa5269]

Try ferrari F40C rwd

[@Johnson_Racing]

already have it on my spreadsheet. Thanks! :)

[@Capital.Wonders]

Bugatti Divo?

[@Boom3120]

good s1 speed

[@Johnson_Racing]

probably ok when you want to have a speed car with AWD, but definitely lacks cornering compared to Mosler, Diablo, F1 GT etc

[@nicolasgarcia253]

So top 3 how is???

[@Johnson_Racing]

Mosler, CCGT, F50 GT

[@nicolasgarcia253]

​@@Johnson_Racing DIABLO GTR give me better results than CCGT, could be?

[@guidofrn]

B class?

[@Johnson_Racing]

maybe :P

[@noahtbhh]

Cns u do best X

[@Johnson_Racing]

I'll take care of it! :)

[@맛집찾기]

ccgt is best op car

[@Johnson_Racing]

trueee

[@pogtuber5146]

Literally no skill needed (edit: obvs I'm wrong on that point, but high skill at best is rewarded with a top 3 position as the majority of players run into walls and miss checkpoints), just whatever car is so unbalanced that it lets you hit ludicrous speeds on straightaways. Every car can just be tuned to AWD and nothing about its characteristics matters. FH5 is one of the worst "online racing" games ever made.

[@Johnson_Racing]

no skill needed is simpley not true. However, you're maybe right about some of the other stuff. ;)

[@pogtuber5146]

@@Johnson_Racing yeah I'm being a bit of an ass, mostly annoyed at the gameplay decisions PGG made with this game that forces people to compete by meta and not by good competitive racing systems and car builds.

[@bogstandardash3751]

I get the impression that car is irrelevant for you I most lobbies.

[@Johnson_Racing]

depends on the tracks :)

[@bogstandardash3751]

@@Johnson_Racing thanks for the reply. I not sure if you are looking for content ideas but I personally would appreciate guidance on the merit of opting for tyre upgrades Vs engine upgrades and how to find a good balance. Essentially I am finding that I do not have enough talent to drive cars (group b plus) without putting semi slicks on, but am finding that others do and seem to have a much faster car as a result... In full appreciation the best advice might simply be "get good".

[@LuisAS96]

Tango down Jajajaja q picha la gente q no sabe correr

[@dragoszecheru2893]

The mosler good car with great speed , but bad handling, clearly not the best S2 class car, better option is AM Vulcan AMR Pro really good grip with lower top speed. Same goes to the Apollo, the Aston Martin is the better option, but you never included, overall good video but clearly not accurate data, i can come up with better cars if you want, but what i can confirm is that this aston martin is confirmed as top tier car.

[@Johnson_Racing]

I have to disagree. The Vulcan is a decent handling car but is even lacking more speed than the CCGT and Apollo. Feel free to check out the fastest times in the rivals leaderboard.

[@proshantobunny5673]

First

[@nurettinbulut566]

ferrari f50 get nerf

[@Johnson_Racing]

F50 GT is not that op lap time-wise. It's simply the best allrounder when you want handling and decent speed in an AWD build. :)

[@nurettinbulut566]

@@Johnson_Racing thank you

[@floridianman]

Never take advice from someone who still uses the brake line. 🤢

[@Johnson_Racing]

which doesn't make a difference when you talk about the best cars. ;)

[@christophertrivette8071]

What is your discord page called ?

[@Johnson_Racing]

link in discription