Forza Horizon 5 vs The Crew Motorfest - One Lap Around Map Comparison

[@MotoGamesTV]

"Lap" times: 13:48 - Forza Horizon 5 16:32 - The Crew Motorfest

[@ILoveMySharks]

thanks for the timestamps

[@bottomtext593]

i dare you to do a one lap around map comparison with another game and The Crew 2

[@tchrono12]

@@bottomtext593 Crew 2 is bout an hr or so depending on what car u use and how well u drive lmao.

[@aripo14]

One important thing to note is that TCM sized under 50GB while FH5 is around 130GB (160GB with all the DLCs) and yet TCM has bigger map with better environmental graphics, arguably better sounding and graphics overall. One can argue that FH5 have much more cars and better quality car models as well but I digress. You can only drive so much cars. Forza’s team really need to step up their game for the next Horizon instalment because TCM can take the open world racing game crown from them. Not to mention TDSC is lurking around the corner as well.

[@markthegamedriver]

TCM is online only remember. So size ain’t a factor. It’s more or less like game streaming. You’ll own nothing and be happy~ klaus Schwab

[@wildnugget1675]

"better environmental graphics" Ask me how I know you know nothing about technology without telling me. I know there's ubitrash shills everywhere, but jesus fucking christ. Come up with something better. The WORLD DESIGN is much better in TCM. The textures are still mediocre at best.

[@akiplay312]

Forza Horizon 5 has photogrammetry which uses real life pictures for textures meaning that the game looks sharper and better than TCM. That's why the size is much bigger. FH 5 has much bigger car list too around 700 cars. Bigger game size doesn't usually mean bigger map they just spent they're resources on other things.

[@lolilll]

​@@akiplay312fh5 map is bland as hell tho unfortunately

[@akiplay312]

@@lolilll well that's their stupid art direction. They choose one of the most boring maps hell even fh4's map feels more vibrant and alive than fh5's.

[@javiermouzo2000]

They nailed the sound in TCM.

[@LyamBenacon]

Not really, TCM sounds more like an F12 or 599 GTO. FH5 sounds closer to the Enzo V12

[@javiermouzo2000]

​@@LyamBenacon There's indeed room from improvement, but for a beta phase the sound it's pretty decent.

[@andreasmoller9798]

The enzo sounds mental in gt7 once you put upgrades to it

[@Nickoboss29]

​@@andreasmoller9798these are stock cars, not tuned

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@Nickoboss29 i know that

[@Lebushi]

Damn Ivory Tower really nailed the environment, ambience, and lighting in TCM

[@levxty2828]

Plus the car sounds

[@or2kr]

11:45 the way the clouds eat into the mountains in TCM is awesome, meanwhile Horizon still just uses a flat skybox

[@dansimrgcompare2780]

Thank driveclub back in 2014, they introduced it for us ;)

[@WTFWHATara]

The clouds looks low res, i prefer the clean look of forza clouds. But volumetric adds depth to the scene.

[@HellzDrifter]

@@WTFWHATaraSubjective

[@sebaw117]

Please compare some of the most iconic roads and locations on the island in The Crew Motorfest and TDU2

[@HelveticaBold1]

Horizon’s lighting appears flatter. Motorfest is powered by Snowdrop, The Division engine which is also used in Avatar and SW Outlaws, some impressive tech.

[@Oscar97o]

Motorfest isn't running on Snowdrop. It uses the same engine as The Crew 2, and The Crew 1 before.

[@dill6078]

​@@Oscar97oand it's still 60fps lock on PC which is just disgraceful

[@TheRealYounavers]

@@dill6078 Let's hope you can remove that limiter within the files.

[@Oscar97o]

@@TheRealYounavers That's impossible because that's the speed the engine runs at.

[@MrQuicheProductions]

@@TheRealYounavers You can't but if you could i wouldn't do it, the engine simply isn't made to run any higher than that, it would be so buggy

[@Boxfightman]

More Graphics, Physics: forza. More Arcade and fun to play: TCM

[@Jack.3077]

Blud said graphics for forza

[@timothylai8483]

⁠@@Jack.3077 you only think TC looks better cause you’re PlayStation. Objectively, FH5 is more advanced visually, though preferences may vary based on biases.

[@Jack.3077]

@@timothylai8483 What does me being on Playstation have to do with the games Graphics? TC3 really is looking better. The reflections and lighting alone.

[@timothylai8483]

@@Jack.3077 because you can’t play FH5 so you bias against it. For me, I’m on PC and don’t really care for either of these games, and in my opinion FH5 looks better, not by a lot, but noticeably better at the very least.

[@jars23]

Remember when trees in racing games were just 2 intersecting rectangles with pictures of trees on them? Now those trees are just one leaf in these games.

[@joaogoncalo2006]

Good morning, MotoGamesTV. Very cool your video, continue to bring more videos and news on your channel, a big hug and may God bless you.

[@andyhelliwell4955]

Seeing the maps side by side, Motorfest seems to have much more content than Forza. I see settlements, garages, ship wrecks, harbour etc.While Forzas crappy map is bland and empty.Just like the whole boring game.

[@Protato666]

The crew looks superior and more interesting to drive around

[@Nickoboss29]

Nope, FH5 sounds good and closer to the real sound... no point in your comment

[@tartopom2669]

Yeah I played many hours in Horizon's map and though it will annoy fanboys, facts is the whole game is pretty boring

[@TheRealYounavers]

@@Nickoboss29 "To drive around" never did he say anything to car sounds. So there is no point in your reply.

[@carbonx0718]

@@Nickoboss29 Forza fanboi directly pissed xD

[@ishb3w]

i disagree. the crew map had way too many copy and pasted trees.

[@denilsonvalenzuela5858]

Okay but that difference in sense of speed.....I hope tcm improves that and also the sky dome

[@bottomtext593]

You'll feel the speed more on close camera.

[@ivocavalcanti5913]

Both are incredibles!

[@Viktor-No-Commentary]

Forza has Realistic Graphics but Crew has more Beautiful map colour and whole map looks Alive 😍 FH5 maps looks dead in some areas.

[@bottomtext593]

FH5 map is just sad compared to TCM. And I'm not talking about size. It feels like you are driving through one of those barren, lifeless wildernesses you hear of in Netflix Shows and the map of Forza Horizon 5 looks way more forgettable than The Crew Motorfest. Really shows that ultra realistic graphics with terrible foundations isn't much different to icing on top of soggy cake.

[@XR4turbo]

Mexico Size: 762,000 square miles Oahu Size: 597 square miles Hong Kong Size: 30 square miles Horizon 5 Map Size: 41 square miles (1:18,000) Motorfest Map Size: ~80 square miles (estimate ~1:7) Solar Crown Map Size 30 square miles (1:1) The funny things is I suspect that Solar Crown's map will feel the largest simply because it will be the densest and true to life scale. From what I've seen though, I think the Motorfest map is the best, Im excited to explore it, especially considering there are boats and planes to use too. So glad Ubisoft decided to limit the map to a reasonable size.

[@redbullsauberpetronas]

The boats and planes are why I'm not getting the game, complete waste of content that most people won't want to use

[@excalibur7840]

​@@redbullsauberpetronasThen dont use them LMAOOOO

[@Reaper1722]

@@excalibur7840 They're still mandatory in some events. But it's still a ridiculous reason nonetheless. There's like, a handful or two of boats and planes now, and i assume the same goes for the events featuring them.

[@ExodiaNecross2]

Disagree. It's very good idea have cars boats bikes planes available

[@redbullsauberpetronas]

@@excalibur7840 they literally force you to use them in game, it's wasted content

[@eclip1991]

FH5 v12 sound like straight pipe 1.6 civic 😂

[@Nickoboss29]

What are you smoking?? It sounds closer to the real Enzo

[@eclip1991]

@@Nickoboss29 Usually I smoke fumes from eco-activists tears ;)

[@ExodiaNecross2]

Enzo sounds better & real in motorfest.

[@Nickoboss29]

@@eclip1991 oh that's why, you should stop, it clouds your judgement...

[@MarcSob22]

The Crew way better!!

[@javiers.99]

I just hope that TCM will be optimized

[@SomeoneC]

I like these 2 games as they focus on more tropical environments, i live on a island so I feel much at home.

[@Jack.3077]

In what country are you? Sounds like a dream to me

[@SomeoneC]

@Jack.3077 I live on a us territory, can't specify, but it is in oceana micronesia.

[@Ravecat27]

The people in Hawaii seems to love Ice Cream. About 80% of the traffic are ice vans lol

[@emin62bek]

I mean.. its pretty hot there. Lol

[@gabrielsobrosa]

FH5's map feels so empty in comparison with TCM

[@markuschief4472]

LMFAO! In a lap around the map FH5 had at least 6 different biomes, while TC Motorfest was only beach and a volcano (copied from FH5 by the way)

[@playz_t]

@@markuschief4472that’s why he said feels there is less traffic too in fh5

[@carlomendoza6173]

The shiftbox change is what makes the different tbh, and the tone a lil bit

[@andreasmoller9798]

Crew motorfest win

[@ElsweyrDiego]

i want a lap comparison with the game FUEL! the map size is astonishing, even if the game itself is very empty

[@Hellodude-el1sp]

TCM has the potential to be the best open world racing game, so long as Ubisoft doesn't somehow screw things up last minute

[@inertboi]

Already did, since it's most probably going to be online only. What when servers go down after a few years?

[@Hellodude-el1sp]

@@inertboi we don't know that yet

[@MefistOGamer2016]

Damn, the new tech for clouds in forza rly shows it's superiority. Clouds in motorfest look like a jpeg :P

[@topperHarley]

and it's the contrary, in FH5 they are videos projected and in The Crew they are volumetric and you can fly through them.

[@MefistOGamer2016]

@@topperHarley Not looking better from the racing perspective thoe.

[@topperHarley]

@@MefistOGamer2016 depends on the preference, from a ground PoV FH5 might look better, but since there are planes in TCM their solution suits the game better.

[@MefistOGamer2016]

@@topperHarley agree

[@sevionus80]

@@topperHarley I have to say, from a graphical standpoint, even till this day, DriveClub's volumetric could system still looks the best. Especially with how the lighting effect god-rays were traced through openings in the clouds over time. I understand that The Crew Motorfest is a large open-world game, but each track in DriveClub was massive in scale. DriveClub Design Ex: Each location has a draw distance of up to 200km to the horizon and even simulates the curvature of the earth in both skies and terrain. But yes, having had access to the closed beta of TCM myself and played it, it looks far better than TC2 in most areas.

[@TheFormActually]

the lighting in FH5 is next level... why do devs always think that realism = overkill in contrast and dim light... it's literally the opposite... it makes the TCM look so outdated...

[@olavofernandes7286]

The lighting in forza horizon 5 is overkill not even realistic

[@TheRealYounavers]

@@olavofernandes7286 It isn't overkill, it's bland. It's waayyy too realistic, and that's fine, FH5 is supposed to lean towards realism. But it's the exact reason why FH2 & 1 & 3 looked more appealing imo.

[@TheFormActually]

@@olavofernandes7286 you need to go out more... real life is not in monitors my guy...

[@humanspider958]

@3:10 The Crew's traffic cars disappearing in the distance.

[@sugondese411]

it was beta

[@petercohle]

Forza Horizon is a excellent game, but i think i'm tired of its engine, is the same handling since from forza horizon 1 plus some graphics improvements... For now i'll stick with TCM because it is a new thing.

[@firip255]

How is The A.I in The Crew motorfest compare to Horizon

[@Reaper1722]

Very aggressive, from my experience. It's like they have a set path that they really do not want to deviate from. So, unlike most racing games, i find myself adapting to them instead of just driving through and assuming they'll let me through like in most games. Now whether that's good or bad is subjective. I have a mixed opinion about it myself.

[@yongling9825]

​@@Reaper1722They behave as if they don't make room for you at all lol, it wasn't easy to score a perfect Clean Driving bonus in the 911 Legacy Playlist.

[@abdulrehmanharoon9881]

Well the Enzo doesn't sound right in The Crew Motorfest.

[@bottomtext593]

A lot of V12s sound off in TCM. Hope they fix that in the full release.

[@Darkside540]

Enzo doesn't sound right in FH5 either.

[@bottomtext593]

@@Darkside540 Forza never gets anything right lol, and if they do it sounds like a synthetic shithole

[@Oscar97o]

@@bottomtext593 They won't.

[@bottomtext593]

@@Oscar97o Nope, they do fix sound cars from time to time. They changed the sound of various V6s in The Crew 2 so they don't all sound like typical GTRs and they edited the Bugatti Chiron sounds so that it sounds softer and cleaner like it's known to be.

[@gustavos.8511]

FH5 defenitely has more realistic lighting (something that FM should improve more) but to me TCM seems way more lively and interesting while still looking realistic in many cases, it defenitely interests me way more, saying this as someone who is not a fan at all of the previous TC games and only played the TC demo and never played TC2, which looked very ugly to me at least online.

[@SZRTIce]

Clouds cast shadows in Motorfest...

[@gustavos.8511]

@@SZRTIce They don't in FH5? I swear i saw it do this before, even if they were fake, maybe i'm remembering wrong or it was a previous FH game.

[@mokkamaster]

I think Clouds cast shadows in fh5 i've seen it before

[@japhetaguirre4880]

​@@gustavos.8511You can see it 4:32

[@MrCruelAvenger]

Is Crew Motorfest better in handling while playing on streering wheel, or same shit as it was in Crew 2?? I hope they finally improved it and it is fun to drive.. :(

[@demshirosan7311]

Its way better than crew 2 on wheel, very good actually, similar to forza, but I didn't like it on pad

[@demshirosan7311]

U can watch a live j made, I showcase wheel use

[@mr_koko]

One lap around map comparison with TC2 vs TCM vs TDU2 vs FH5 please ? 😅

[@yusufffff]

Not fair to compare a 10 year old game to new titles. Let's wait for solar crown to come out

[@mr_koko]

@@yusufffff why ? TDU2 is better than Hawai Motorfest and Mexico FH5 😅

[@Ignacio.Romero]

TDU 2's lap would be like an hour long

[@fngalex]

crossing double yellow line and almost cause an accident :(

[@metalgoku05]

I been looking for a the crew motorfest and test drive unlimited map site by side driving in the same roads cause I can't play it without remembering tdu please anyone

[@davidm113]

TCM sounds epic if they had forza horizons car list it would be over for Microsoft

[@bottomtext593]

They will. 600+ cars at launch. It's over for Microsoft

[@juditobrusanszky8105]

MotorFest 3D Map ❤

[@romalovepeaceful83]

Fh5 Enzo sounds like Honda nsx in gran turismo2 lol

[@lewis0109]

😂

[@jpdcmo]

Forza Horizon 5: Gameplay/ physics (Number 1 feature in any race game) Graphics (If the forza is cartoony the crew is what lol) Sounds (In general some exceptions) Vehicles customisation (tuning/ engine parts) The Crew Motorfest: The map (the city areas and scale) Vehicles customisation (cosmetic) Cpu Traffic (to much ice cream Van's lol)

[@D_LGND]

I got FH5 and the graphics in TCM looks slightly better, might be because I’m not on Series X/S though

[@玛丽莲萌露]

It is not known which is more real, but the one on the right can damage hearing

[@sebastiankostelecki8514]

Both productions represent good map and high graphic level, however, LOD is less aggressive in The Crew I see.

[@HG504X]

Crew Motorfests has good sounds all round but this ain't one of them unfortunately. Doesn't sound like an Enzo at all

[@manoel6728]

The Crew's graphics are more appealing and cartoonish and Forza is more natural and realistic, Forza uses photogrammetry to recreate more realistic environments, I also prefer Forza's varied biomes with seasons and car physics, The Crew looks fun to play sometimes

[@luizpedro3]

Which one has a bigger map?

[@MotoGamesTV]

Motorfest

[@steph653]

a game with the TCM map and FH5's handling/physics to which you will add good cars sounds would be good. but as it stands neither of these 2 games are good for me. I find need fs unbound better, that is to say

[@andreasmoller9798]

Nfs unbound is garbage both those games are far better

[@BubbleVBuddy]

No way this guy put NFS unbound above TCM and FH5

[@namesii1880]

Out of all those 3 TCM has the best car handling though. It isn't brake to drift and super stiff cars like Unbound. And it doesn't try to be overly realistic, and even failing there because they want to please the drift kids like FH5.

[@steph653]

@@BubbleVBuddy we're not supposed to all have the same taste. the FH5 map is boring to me. while the car sounds are too artificial, it's too obvious that they are computer generated, almost all cars have this same characteristic sound, this same synthetic filter. for me it is not possible. who can say that the map is better than that of unbound seriously? on unbound the car sounds are a little too muffled but at least they sound not artificial like on this FH5. better map + more authentic sounds. finally the urban atmosphere is also more pleasant for me so you know why.

[@steph653]

@@BubbleVBuddy the TCM would be enticing, but it doesn't seem to have any driving feel, the physics seem so boring. for me it is not possible. there is also a problem with the sounds, it lacks progressiveness. you have the impression that the engine gives full throttle from the start of acceleration, for me it breaks the immersion. but not as much as physics at almost level 0

[@ryugakishatu3170]

The shadows in the crew motorfest are much sharper than the one in forza. Forza shadows are blur

[@martijnnvt6949]

Horizon 5's Ferrari sound aweful comparer to TCM.

[@newforcemedia]

The Ferrari in FH5 sounds like a harmonica. TCM is way better

[@oCabrino]

Maybe i'm being annoying, but i think the shiftbox sound looks unrealistic for a stock car in TCM. (Anyways, the game look fantastic)

[@observantmonkey4055]

How does MF feel with a controller?

[@VidiSLTU]

TCM with dead mirrors no people in game and woody physics..

[@christopherspence5866]

🔥🔥🔥💯

[@Bandxit]

Fh5 all day i hate the unrealistic handing in the crew it feels to easy to master, i like having to tune my car just right to take on corners rather than an arcade kid game

[@POLDOxD]

The crew motorfest 😮

[@tekarsenic]

Just a heads up. If you're recording this on a Series X, the audio engine is kinda busted. There's 2 things that you need to make sure happen before you'll get the true FH5 audio. FH5 doesn't actually sound so raspy. What's happening is the 3 accessibility screen reader modes each treat the overall mix differently. The first thing you need to do is make sure that screen reader is set to off. The next thing that happens is every time you switch cars in game, the audio mixes get broken. This is especially evident in Dolby and DTS modes. What'll happen here is the instant you switch cars, the mixes will get brighter and more raspy. You'll hear everything get harsh. So every time you switch cars, you have to restart the game. There used to be a 3rd issue, but that was Xbox native narrator and they've since fixed that with the last update. Something else that bugs me about these audio comparisons is that you're not picking the best sounding exhaust upgrade sound. If that happened, the 2 games would be closer. Need to level the playing field a bit more imho. Pretty sure that TCM will still have the more exciting sound, but generally speaking FH5 is closer to accurate.

[@MotoGamesTV]

1. Accessibility modes were off 2. I'm not using Dolby and DTS 3. I wasn't changing the car because I was doing some test runs to find optimal route and time of the day to start 4. What's the point of comparison, if in one game I had to change engine parts to make it sounds "better" if I can't do the same thing in the other game? I'm comparing apples to apples, not oranges to apples.

[@tekarsenic]

@MotoGamesTV The point is that TCM isn't using stock car sounds. I think that much is very obvious. If you want to compare apples to apples then you have to contact the TCM audio team and find out exactly the exhaust setup they recorded. The Enzo here in TCM clearly doesn't sound like an Enzo while FH5 does. Therefore in order to compare apples to apples the exhaust setups need to be identical. All that said tho, PG'a audio team needs to get their shit together. It's still mixed kinda wonky. TCM definitely feels more lively.

[@MotoGamesTV]

In both games exhaust setup was identical: car was stock, without any upgrades. The end result in both games might be different, but I'm not going to spend some time and adjust exhaust settings in Forza especially when this not Enzo sound comparison video.

[@tekarsenic]

@@MotoGamesTV Then it won't be a true apples to apples comparison. There's always some variables in play that are overlooked in these comparison vids. For example, many exhaust sounds in FH5 are just out of order. I'm not saying that FH5 is better, it's clearly not. I'm just saying that in order to do what you're setting out to do you should take all variables into consideration to level the playing field. Just my .02 on the matter.

[@markthegamedriver]

Lots of forza boys in the comments nagging lol 😂😂😂😂. It’s not like crew is Sony exclusive it’s available on all platforms.

[@Elarion.Teridin.]

Forza spoiler active👍The crew👎

[@kjstancedz]

The plate on fh5😂😂😂

[@vishwanathyaligar-iu3vp]

Motorfest ❤

[@tubatuba3911]

FH5 way better graphics and motorfest have 60 fps cap ! sic !

[@homerdohyt]

TCM seems to have a more dull environment that FH5, there is no great brightness in TCM. But TCM map is better and the interior animations 🤤

[@ScorpionF1RE----USA]

small maps suck for cruising! super disappointed. good job fanboys

[@Phantom19-YT]

FH5 is bad

[@juditobrusanszky8105]

MotorFest Best

[@Judit-u6v]

Motorfest Best

[@DAS-2024]

Crew look mediocre, due to its physics

[@mahirakalucasahammed2443]

forza horizon 5’s too loud

[@Dustparticle000]

Compare mf with nfs heat...come on buddy...heat is a open world too

[@MotoGamesTV]

Heat? What about Unbound?

[@eltoyotayaris]

Y asi dicen que la iluminacion es mejor en fm5💀

[@lewis0109]

The crew is way better

[@Ak.98]

Forza❤️

[@emulatorrisi]

The crew looks clearly better

[@emulatorrisi]

Avoid to make the cockpit comparison because in FH looks horrible... lol