Fossil fuels not survivable UN Secretary General 15 June 2023

[@hormunculus]

Thanks Peter. The UN Sec Gen knows where we are going and so do most of us here. Good luck everyone ❤❤

[@Muddslinger0415]

I do believe things are going to turn to shot with a n the next ten years

[@hime273]

Where?

[@Stupidityindex]

Boeing builds aircraft & everything is shipped from China. I still hear climate change denial, right-wing talking points on small-town radio.

[@mrpaul5726]

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres is absolutely correct, but sad to say IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN. There will be lots of words and promises, even handshakes and celebrations at the upcoming conference, but BEHAVIOUR and ACTIONS will not follow or match the words and promises. We must brace for impact and that is the honest truth.

[@Muddslinger0415]

The sad facts is that most of not all of us that are commenting will be some of the first to die

[@DominionMovementDotOrg]

@@Muddslinger0415 why ?

[@amberazurescale5617]

I wonder about that summit he mentions. There apparently was one of those back in 2020 already. Is this Guterres' own private "coalition of the willing" in terms of climate protection? Well, it doesn't seem to have much impact. Another blah blah club, then? I wonder what Peter thinks about this..

[@Muddslinger0415]

@@amberazurescale5617 you can expect the UN to fix this problem, this is global!

[@mrpaul5726]

@@amberazurescale5617 I think you have summed it up perfectly

[@lyndonbarsten393]

Addicts often end up killing themselves. In this case, money addicts may end up killing everyone.

[@SandraWade666]

Truth. The addiction to material stuff when we were blessed with everything we could ever need on this planet already

[@Muddslinger0415]

Exactly the greedy rich are the ones mainly keeping us from returning to a more simple life they want us to keep the economic monster running so they can live the best life this world planet has to offer. All while us poor peasants continue to struggle day to day

[@ravenken]

'...may' ?!?!" Pretty confident money already does and will.

[@paulxander5970]

Delaying anything to 2030 is of course ridiculous.

[@john1boggity56]

James Hansens (et al) most recent paper "Global Warming in the Pipeline" estimates the long-term equilibrium climate sensitivity for the current average global energy imbalance (currently 4.1W/m) is 10 degrees C and at equilibrium, there would be next to no ice left on this little planet. We are - as the UN Secretary General says - hurtling, eyes wide open toward a very difficult future...

[@FrankWhite437]

its called extinction due to loss of habitat..

[@Muddslinger0415]

Not a very difficult future but no future at all

[@Atheistbatman]

It’s June 20th in Rome GA and no fly larvae or flies in my trash for 2-3 years now Why is the news not freaking out? Why are ppl not freaking out? I’m freaking because no one else is…by the time everyone else starts freaking out I’ll be at hysterical laughter phase

[@SandraWade666]

The media has a vested interest in the status quo. Media is run by the wealthy who also love money and tax cuts

[@amberazurescale5617]

I'm deeply concerned about the insects, too.. situated in Germany on the countryside. We got a bush in the garden that blooms magnificently. It used to be humming with bees and butterflies in all the recent years. This year only saw three or four bees and two butterflies so far. There's still a good amount of bumblebees, but still.. it's really alarming.

[@Atheistbatman]

@@amberazurescale5617 very first study on flying insect population in 2010(?) from Germany about insect decline reported 75% decline back then. Earthworms also been gone completely for 2 years in Georgia US…I see a couple this year but very poor looking. I’m also a Horticulturist and nothing has grown right in a decade….past two years after 2 nights warmer than days my vegetables stopped growing…days cool 75F but 2 nights got to 80F and everything stopped…did not die did not grow…u will see Zombie Crops in news any year now…Canada already calls their forests Zombie forests because they have stopped growing….beware night warmer than day I am going quite mad…quite insane now

[@el_chavez]

We have killed 60% of the insect population in the last 20 yrs😢.

[@em945]

Says it like it is. Wonder how he has not fallen out a window. Probably because not many are listening.

[@ravenken]

I'd say about 10k are listening. That's 10k of how many people on the planet? Nah, he's safe.

[@patricialongo5870]

Seven billion people vs NATO and the Murkans. And yet we're losing.

[@EmeraldView]

Too little too late. Humans 😕

[@john1boggity56]

I'm afraid so...

[@nsbd90now]

Yup. From now on each year will be worse than the one before. I fully expect well-developed global chaos by 2030.

[@patricialongo5870]

NATO. Americans.

[@vernonbrechin4207]

I'm glad to see that there are now clear and direct references to the primary root cause, the use of fossil fuels.

[@vsstdtbs3705]

Wrong, the primary cause of overpopulation. 20 thousand years ago, at the end of the last ice age, there was only 5 million humans. With that number of people, they could have burnt as much fossil fuels as they wanted, and would not have made a difference.

[@leviahimsa]

Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -Oxford University Animal agriculture is responsible for 51-87% of global greenhouse gas emissions. -World Watch, Journal of Ecological Society *UNFAO calculations have ‘failed to include the negative impact of forests lost to animal agriculture’.*

[@billyjoesmo8251]

It would of been wonderful if we would have stopped using oil back early 1900s. Might have made a difference today

[@TTR83]

@leviahimsa Nonsense!

[@leviahimsa]

@@TTR83 What's nonsense?

[@paulgrunden5401]

This is beyond depressing. No sane person believes any of what he's calling for is going to happen.

[@globalwarming382]

Humans are self-destructive. We destroy the very atmosphere that we can NOT live without.

[@NoetherPoint]

Game. Set. Match. “Thanks for all the fish!”

[@DominionMovementDotOrg]

did he do a talk about the animal industrial complex also? it seems like that transition could be done even quicker

[@TTR83]

Will not happen.

[@CharlesWakefield]

Too late. Enjoy the rides.😢

[@GregoryJWalters]

" trading the future for thirty pieces of silver is immoral..." !

[@shannonsexton8921]

I hope that this message changes something... I won't hold my breath 😢

[@baizhanghuaihai2298]

Wait til the wildfire smoke reaches you. You may reconsider.

[@patricialongo5870]

Nobody can stop NATO -America and the earth killing project it is enacting. I'm sure all people who try to begin will be pariahs. Society will spend more killing those who try than it will on avoiding planetary death.

[@TheDoomWizard]

Game over by 2030.

[@SandraWade666]

Limits to Growth was spot on

[@T1tusCr0w]

Nobody in any position of authority is younger that 50 years old & very rich. What’s this mean? Quite simply they think whatever is coming won’t touch them in their lifetimes. And such people are not SO worried about the next generation. Even their own children. Only hard legislation will do this. But it would need to be worldwide passed at once. - I’m very dubious this will ever happen.

[@SandraWade666]

They're building bunkers in New Zealand or spaceships to peace out

[@skanthaadsigns]

Its not what Fuel we operate on but rather the never ending consumption of stuff operating on any source of fuel is the problem…

[@JamesWillis-yy5px]

Not really, CO2 is just not a problem, trees use it up. It's easy to plant trees to reduce CO2, not rocket science, just gardening. The real problem is the entire agenda is not about CO2, it's about giving themselves more power to use for corruption.

[@patricialongo5870]

The Americans will kill anyone in the way of the Nature ending project. That's what NATO is for.

[@kimwelch4652]

Transition plans are useful, if they are ever implemented.

[@JaseboMonkeyRex]

The science is really hard to argue against ... But what never is said or talked about in any meaningful way is the quality of fossil fuels vs renewables ... And the implications for the transition on economic growth and prosperity . What's always ignored is the ideas governing the economy and implicit is the assumption that we can just swap energy systems and continue with business as usual .... Renewables wont run an infinite growth machine in fact nothing will... We need far greater wisdom to acknowledge the limits to the current system and imagine a new one .... For climate change as all environmental issues are symptoms of a deeper problem that isnt even being talked about .... Unless we solve that deeper problem technology will not save us from the consequences of our actions So this guy is literally wasting his time saying this.... 😢

[@ParfaitG]

We need to degrowth, downshift, and downscale our consumption and production and overpopulation on a massive global level to even hope to mitigate climate disruption and biodiversity loss. This is akin to a COVID level lockdown for _years_ out. This does mean epic corrections in our economic growth and financial markets. This does mean no more unnecessary flying and driving, tech and fashion fads, wasteful tourism, expansive infrastructure, intensive agriculture and fisheries, greenfield suburbias, deepsea mining for rare Earth metals, single use plastics, etc. etc. etc.!

[@janllh24]

Absolutely, the fact that even at this late stage our thinking remains so constricted shows how committed we remain to the existing system and everything that fuels it

[@omnicidal]

Thank you.

[@SandraWade666]

Yup. Needs to incorporate the whole "Limits to Growth" lessons. That book was written in the early 70s and sadly we never acted on it

[@nicholasbyrne3007]

" It is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism" Fredric Jameson.

[@suzann2531]

Millionaire’s should be dipping their into their pockets to help poorer countries.

[@SandraWade666]

Hahaha yeah right.

[@LittleNoiseBoy]

Thanks for this and all your sterling efforts, Mr Carter. It is wonderful that Secretary General Guterres is so forthright and I agree with the need to act urgently - but I cannot see how we can decarbonise now at the required rate. Falling renewables costs are one thing, but what of storage / intermittency / grid redesign? We cannot just turn off the tap (as we need to do to avoid disaster) because if we do we will be unable to feed and otherwise provision the population we now have: we needed to begin transition in earnest 30 years ago. I'm also not convinced that the green alternatives are that green: they seem to involve their fair share of fossil fuel powered mining, ecological costs and harm to poorly treated local workers and residents. Spent turbines and solar panels are hard to recycle at best and supplies of the rare earths involved extremely limited. I ask in all good faith: am I missing something?

[@amberazurescale5617]

Congratulations. You've reached the next level, @LittleNoiseBoy. Yes, you're right: the "green tech" that is promised to save the planet is just another fairy tale. On first glance, it seems to go into the right direction. But look at it. Take EVs for example. Noticed how they get larger and larger? They do that in order to enable people to keep their lifestyle. Transporting 100 kg of payload over hundreds of kilometers in a vehicle that weighs 2 tons. This has nothing to do with sustainability at all. This tech is just an excuse, just a greenwashed feel-good way of still continuing the business-as-usual. Which is a society and economy that is based on fossil fuels, the delusion of unlimited growth, resource depletion and greed. And sadly, photovoltaics and other tech isn't better. Every single piece of technology is produced, transported, maintained and operated based on burning fossil fuels and depleting natural resources. Take it to the next level and you'll realize that the planet cannot sustain billions of humans, no way how you put it. It's an illusion, a pipe dream. It's the Jevon's paradox: there is no evidence that resource-efficient technology leads to an overall resource saving. If anything, it leads to more people on the planet which take more and more resources. They can't survive otherwise. You put 10 people into the woods and forbid them to burn anything. How long do you think they'll survive? Ironically, there's 100+ other animal species in that forest who survive without burning stuff. For years. Wanna check out the final level? It's when you realize that it's a dead end. The only feasible way out is a graceful retreat. Try to live your life silently, and try to minimize the damage you're adding up to the pile. Save nature, plants and animals whenever you can. Save every little insect you can find.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Nada...

[@helenadacosta39]

Thank you for telling the truth ❤

[@LightSearch]

I have known this guy for a very long time. He's not good at basic maths and he's also a coward. He does dare to utter what measures would really be needed to address the climate predicament.

[@ollie2052000]

I think every Conservative MP in England should be put in a darkened room & forced to hear this message for 24 hours straight. Our own governments are complicit in the destruction of everyone of us.

[@sweetindigo1]

since they WILL NOT stop our capitalistic system...we will die from it..

[@suzann2531]

The World was going to end back in the 60s Guess what 23 now still here.

[@tobymartindale7713]

@@suzann2531 when the global food supplies fail in the coming years you will be singing a different tune

[@suzann2531]

@@tobymartindale7713 Really until the likes of China’s who is apparently is building new coal power so fast that energy transition by the west is meaningless. Not forgetting India in all this. Are these elites still using private planes to attend their meetings? This was always about distribution of money from the rich countries to the poor countries. You heard what he said so I don’t need to repeat it. Even one of our own politicians said if we close down the country it won’t make any difference because China will make enough to cover it. Until every single country pulls together we are wasting our time mean while our government are now threatening us with up to £15,000 fine and a year in prison for home owners not adhering to new energy performance regulations. Plus we still have to find the money for ground heat source pumps. So glad you have the money to cover all this. Maybe you could afford to contribute to food banks because people are struggling.

[@LinusBerglund]

I wonder if anyone will find an excuse to call that vague.

[@RickLarsonPermacultureDesigner]

All the participants in that meeting should walk home would be more specific.

[@baizhanghuaihai2298]

Finally the human menace will end its scourge upon this planet. Sadly we take so much other life with us when we go. Good riddance to us nonetheless. “To bear children into this world is like carrying wood to a burning house.” -Peter Wessel Zapffe, philosopher, mountaineer, prophet.

[@patricialongo5870]

Yes. Children grow up to be drivers. Nobody can teach better habits. It's time to pull the plug because you don't think green people can be parents. Death for everyone. No alternatives to destruction.

[@billyjoesmo8251]

We are at the point where the dam broke the water is rushing towards us. Stop adding water to the reservoir or any other future safeguards have no bearing on the fact that we are done😢

[@cajunswede]

Too little, too late

[@jeffjohnon4223]

"Net Zero" by 2050 is funny that that timeframe follows the decline rate of world wide oil well production numbers. There is no "Transition" to anything, infinite growth money system demands growth in emissions, there is a 96% correlation between GDP and fossil fuel emissions. Everything in your life depends on oil, when it's gone, so is 90% of the population.

[@Muddslinger0415]

It doesn’t matter from what I have read even if we cut to zero this very minute things are still going to hit 3 degree c by 2050

[@jato72]

Yeah, it is starting to look like global peak oil production has arrived. The subsequent decline will destroy the economies and you won't have to worry about so called "Climate Change". Any way you slice it, it is about to get sporty.

[@billyjoesmo8251]

I like to call it hopium not hope😊 1:41

[@nonearlylove]

In the USA, the Republican Party is IGNORING all this Information..! VOTE THEM OUT..! Do it for our Children..!

[@jato72]

You mean ignoring the propaganda. As an independent, I will be voting Republican as the lesser of evils.

[@dion8962]

You will ride ze bikes and eat ze bugs while we fly around on private jets to our mansions around ze world.

[@jato72]

The middle class must be destroyed! ;)

[@soewin9784]

Fossil fuel is giving various troubles to the Humankind. Conflicts, War, Crisis, Disasters, Death and Severe climate caused by fossil fuel.

[@thecitizen49]

It is the great taboo to speak truth about the unholy union between the fossil fuel industry and the automobile industry. There are more than 200 million SUVs on the planet. Who besides a car salesman, thinks that is a good idea?

[@amberazurescale5617]

The COP 27 conference leader, for instance.

[@greenhearted8453]

And the big investment banks. And cowardly politicians.

[@susllim]

So he wants hedge funds and private equity to finance the transition?

[@suzann2531]

Be careful they will take your coat off your back as well.

[@susllim]

Lots of GDP growth to be made from adapting the South to the decimation: A new joint report by the World Bank and IFC offers a blueprint for action for governments to catalyze private investment in climate adaptation and resilience. The blueprint for action lays out a systematic approach to incentivize adaptation financing from the private sector and meet countries’ fast-growing financing needs to achieve climate resilience. The approach will be tested in several pilot countries as part of the World Bank Group’s support towards enabling private investment in adaptation

[@coka237]

The primary root cause is exponential population growth, but don't mention it...

[@amberazurescale5617]

"Oh, no no, there's no problem with that. We just need to share all resources equally. We'll invent technology that easily supports 12 billion, and there's eeasily enough landmass to live. Poverty will be removed, all people will have access to great education, and everybody will go vegan and dance and jump around, wearing hawaiian shirts and flowers in their hair." *abruptly wakes up*

[@leviahimsa]

COP has never offered a fully plant-based menu. They are the example and the problem. Animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, habitat destruction, water pollution, ocean dead zones and *species extinction* . -United Nations The most comprehensive *meta-analysis* conducted to date with 119 countries, shows avoiding animal products is the *"SINGLE BIGGEST WAY"* to reduce our environmental impact. -Oxford University Will they choose a plant-based COP28?

[@SpeedyCorky]

the single biggest way to reduce our environmental impact is to reduce our numbers, reduce population. so dont have children. that does translate to the white race being radical minorities in a few decades, but they will still hold most of the wealth.

[@TTR83]

A fully meat-based diet is the key. It is sustainable not like a plant-,based diet.

[@leviahimsa]

@@TTR83 Please provide evidence for your claim. Where do this belief come from? 925 million humans (1 in 9) suffer from hunger, yet 80 billion animals enslaved in farms are given enough human edible food that could support 4 billion humans directly. -University of Minnesota Risk of death from cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, infections, kidney disease, liver disease and lung disease all increase with the amount of meat consumed. - National Cancer Institute A plant based diet is healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provides health benefits *for all stages of life* in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. - American Nutrition and Dietetic Association *World's largest group of nutrition professionals* Animal agriculture uses 83% of global farmland and only provides 18% of global calories. When we switch to a plant based food system, we will reduce global farmland by 75% AND be able to feed all humans. Oxford University

[@bobbresnahan8397]

Speaking truth! Bravo!!!

[@brentsummers7377]

So how does a low wage shift worker, sharing a house with 3 or 4 other people, paying high rent, get to and from work when there is no public transport? Probably by driving an old gasoline powered car such as a Corolla etc. Even if those workers could afford an electric car there is probably no way all 3 or 4 cars could be recharged at night. All very well for the Sec. General living somewhere in New York & probably not needing a car on a daily basis.

[@vsstdtbs3705]

Women dominate voting and old ladies want to survive, whereas other cultures put them down. You must continue your shift work, pay your taxes, so old ladies can have their pension, and free healthcare. That is a good boy. We must all care for each other. Do not talk about overpopulation, us old ladies find that insensitive. Cutting down forests for more granny flats and houses, and more tax payers is good. Let's all work together and be positive.

[@nsbd90now]

From BuisnessInsider Sept 18 2021: “The companies polluting the planet have spent millions to make you think carpooling and recycling will save us”

[@nsbd90now]

@@vsstdtbs3705 Sounds like something an incel might say.

[@SandraWade666]

Yup. And politicians taking fossil fuel money have no interest in changing that

[@SandraWade666]

​@@vsstdtbs3705 wtf are you talking about

[@3dagedesign]

Is the answer to climate issues, more unelected bureaucrats and more international meetings of national politicians acting on a global stage. ? or is it the recently announced Masterplan part 3 to transition the global economy to renewable energy in 10 years.

[@carnaud]

Energy IS food….40% reduction….anyone else not so enthusiastic about this plan?

[@MyKharli]

So carry on as normal then

[@SandraWade666]

Cue doge meme: "This is fine"

[@prof.heinous191]

Great speech!

[@hime273]

🤡

[@famousbangla7689]

Diesel is very dirty you know? To have some natural refreshment right now im writing to you by the side of river bank. But sorry to say that I'm seeing its very noisy like road 😭. Inhale, compressed, blast, exhaust 😂 Dirty, noisy same shit diesel engine. To reduce carbon emissions we should stop this. Thank you Sir, Antonio Guterres. We're proud of you.

[@danatompkins4385]

Yes!!!

[@windwalker583]

Wow he flew to Canada in fosel fueled plane with hundreds of others on many flights and cars to Canada to join this meeting...wow such a hypocrite

[@jato72]

For the Elite, hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug.

[@Tore_Lund]

Who isn't getting it now? Antonio Guterres says the exact same as Greta Thunberg, There is no time left to invent clever solutions.

[@hime273]

🤡 We get the fact that they're both Sociopathic Actors.

[@Tore_Lund]

@@hime273 To be an actor you need empathy, Environment is not about what you think, or me for that matter, it is science, it can not be argued by ad hominem attacks.

[@caterthun4853]

Peter there is a good video about why people are climate deniers on a you tube channel called "count everything" the video is be kind to climate deniers.. Does give better understanding why people don't get or don't want to understand the situation.

[@dion8962]

India just ordered 500 new jumbo jets to meet demand

[@Deebz270]

1:20 - I think James Hansen et al. Might have one or two issues with that statement and would beg to differ...

[@heatherAnnwithE]

US alone bough Alaska writing "energy forever." Forever! Not life. Not 100 years. FOREVER!

[@jonfrodsham4216]

Hello Peter. The only conclusion I can draw from the lack of action and lack of a cohesive implementation of any survival strategy is that the Establishment thinks that although the ship has hit the iceberg it can, by distracting the lower class passengers via it's media Circus's, throwing the lookouts in the Brig, striking up the band for a last minute shopping spree, so distract from the impending Disaster that nobody will be watching the quiet moves to hog the lifeboats that the Quality passengers are making.. It's a delusional ideology they're following, and although they may initially survive it will only be long enough to pause , and Rue their own actions as the lifeboats burn, their positions reverse with the boatcrew they depend upon, and the high Life turns to a deserving low life. New Zealands Bunkers shall not save them, as they think. They will be entombed in their gold plated sarcophagi, with nothing but final hellish thoughts. I shall dress in my best. And if I should pop to the surface shall paddle to the land of the Kiwi and super glue the locks. It's all but in afait de' accompli. And they are still going ahead with the coup de gras of dredging up the methane in search of rare earth nodes on the sea bed. It's disgusting what Avarice can do in a species that fails to evolve past it. Full time Score Mammon 1 God 0 Man of the match...people like YOU. Thanks. Jon They are fiddling as Rome Burns.

[@castanheira99]

Quem tem comida fácil na mesa fala de dietas, enquanto os que não têm, falam de comida. Servir o interesse de ambos é o desafio que ninguém sabe como resolver

[@greenhearted8453]

Verdade demais! Too true. Tragically. Tragicamente.

[@pauljackson9519]

Monumental fraud.

[@bitethebullet8213]

pipedream.

[@windwalker583]

More co2 please as my plants will grow faster..net zero all my plants will be dead

[@lshwadchuck5643]

Blah, blah, blah.

[@tidtidy4159]

Best get on the streets then.

[@SandraWade666]

You think that's clever?

[@lshwadchuck5643]

@@SandraWade666 Not even a little. Purely lazy, the wind was so knocked out of me.

[@Atheistbatman]

How much carbon does it take to creat that nice aluminum single use bottle? How much carbon to fly that 3 chin Jaba hut to these conferences? Why do they not talk in a field while working or better yet while hunting because even farming was too much carbon maybe NTHE is here now right now today

[@nsbd90now]

The irony is that it is agriculture that allowed for civilizations, but it also carries within it the seeds (heh! a pun) of civilization's collapse.

[@paigefoster8396]

Did he walk or bicycle to that building to give that speech? Did he request that yourubw store this video on servers that use no energy? 😂

[@SandraWade666]

Ah so you're gonna blame him, singlehandedly, for climate change? Seems logical *smh*

[@paigefoster8396]

@@SandraWade666 Oh man, but did you see my egregious typo? Yikes. You think we should eliminate the use of fossil fuels? T'would be nice. As for blaming all human foibles on one dude, didn't say that. I'm saying that one should practice what they preach. You know, like test it out on an individual level; show people by example; don't be a hypocrite, that kind of thing.

[@James4791zx]

😄😄😄

[@globalwarming382]

Thank you fossil fuel industry and the republican party we the poeple are screwed.