Mets re-sign Manaea, Buehler to Boston, Phillies acquire Luzardo | Fair Territory

[@jdl1986now]

Phillies rotation was pretty stacked last year too, but they got eliminated in the Division Series to the Mets. Things don't always pan out the way they are envisioned.

[@ronngonzalez3954]

You forgot Fernando Valenzuela who also passed this year. Best rookie as a pitcher.

[@TheMacdod]

He was awesome.

[@tacogang5083]

Bro how are you gonna forget Fernando. Fernando passed right before game 1 of the world series 😢

[@alesitercrimson24]

Red Sox have a sneaky solid rotation. Could surprise a lot of people

[@lacienzia]

Doubt it

[@chrisweidner4768]

@@alesitercrimson24 Thinking they should have resigned Broneil.

[@richardturner3464]

patron saint of the red sox is tommy john. how many of their pitchers on dl ?

[@TheMacdod]

Red Sox look better. I bet they're in on the vlad sweepstakes next year

[@MassBoost]

@@chrisweidner4768 resign /rəˈzīn/ verb voluntarily leave a job or other position.

[@srchlokote5669]

Giving no love to Fernando Valenzuela 😢

[@kevinnoah-i4o]

No, just so many players are passing away. Now as I'm in my 60's. Sadly with health issues. I feel for them all.😢

[@EdPintor-t5d]

Red Sox got a good rotation

[@justinllamas1]

on this day 49 years ago … peter seitz struck down the reserve clause and allowed baseball to become the first major sports league in the world to establish free agency

[@samallardyce2522]

just cancel the season and give the mets the world series

[@Hex-vy1jb]

Bow tie bandit. You forgot Fernando Valenzuela another legend that passed

[@LuisLopez-ne1qi]

I think when Joseph Gordon Levitt gets old, he will look like Ken

[@ScottyBraun-FoulTerritory]

crazy rush before the holidays!

[@mss627]

I have no confidence that Manaea will be able to repeat last year's performance. Meanwhile the Red Sox get Walker Buehler, who is two years younger, for 21 mil. Let's compare numbers at the end of the season and see which team got the better deal.

[@jeffteyrosado9966]

No matter what the mets have their number 😅😅😅😅😅

[@rk9wolverine810]

As a Braves’ fan, I’m kinda envious of the Manaea signing. That seemed like a player up Atlanta’s ally to sign. Still think LAD has the strongest, or at least the most potential for absolute dastardly monster of a rotation 1-5.

[@TheMacdod]

As a Mets fan I'm sure you still have the better rotation. At least better front of the rotation with sale and strider. That guy swallenbach was nasty too. Not sure about back of the rotation but that's easier to find.

[@mikecha3002]

Unless Redsox get they're heads out they're ass ,Buehler will be back in blue soon...

[@eemoreau]

Mets Will Rock with Pete Alonso onboard! Come on Mets! We can do this ! FantasticoMets69! 50+ years as a Fan & counting!!!🎉😅🎉

[@FittedInThe798]

Clay Holmes is the dark horse. He will be a important piece

[@galap0g0sisland]

KEN ROSENTHAL PLEASE BE MY FATHER

[@isaactejada2757]

Down bad

[@PANCHO15108]

😂😂😂​@@isaactejada2757

[@caseyfenscke5895]

I like the rangers moves. I’m gonna miss Nate Lowe but we will def have more pop now. Rangers needed it and now they need to get some bullpen help. I would like another starter as well. Bring back the Hean dog!

[@BasedVeteran]

No Heaney. We can get Sasaki.

[@ShahrooziFashion]

What about the Mets having Bregman AND Alonso with Vientos to DH? Do they have a shot at that?

[@Peewyld]

Alonso would dh in that scenario.

[@ArmorofGod610]

Fernando Valenzuela RIP

[@paulgiza1681]

Mets rebuilding the Oakland A's pitching staff from 4 years ago

[@cgtz9526]

One thing when comparing the Mets and Phillies is the aging position players on the Phillies side and the Mets did beat them 6 out of 8 to finish the year. Phillies are better on paper but clutchness and athleticism goes to Met

[@TheMacdod]

I'm a Mets fan and our roster was pretty old too. In terms of age I think not that different. The main difference was approach at the plate. Phillies chased and made our pitching look better than it was. Dodgers did not make that mistake.

[@sni6941]

Looking at the last couple weeks of moves, I think there are more teams want to sell and control their payroll then all in buyers. So the remaining FAs will have a tough time getting their wishes of money except Bournes.

[@travis6694]

so who is giving burnes 250 million then?

[@sni6941]

@ only 3 teams is all in(Dodgers, Yankees, Mets) and couple other teams are in reasonable competing mode which means they have already invested a lot on their roster but they do have a limit (Astros, Phillies, Bluejays), and couple teams starting to compete but also have limit this year ( Boston, Cubs, SF). The rest is making adjustments only to staying competitive hoping miracle. Dodgers has about 20m left to spend Yankees has about one more big contract the most Mets has 1-2 big contracts Astros are done spending Phillies will only spend on one big bat if they can trade some money off first Bluejays has one big contracts but not sure what they do Boston has one big left Cubs has one big left or two medium contracts ( around 10-15m) That’s about it for FAs, and there are more FAs still left want big money. Bournes will get his money, just not a bidding war Bregman will be like last years Cody, Alonso will be like last years’ Chapman Flaherty , Teoscar, Santander, Kim, Pivetta, Torres, Profar, O’Neil , all was looking for 20m plus, which right now I don’t think most of them will get it. Don’t forget there are teams actively trying to trade some of their high salary players like Arenado, Castillo, Bo, Arreas, Cease, etc. those will also take close to 20m per person. So a lot of the remaining FA will be getting cheap deals. So Cubs need to be patient right now.

[@COMMONsenseAdvocate86]

as a lifelong Dodgers fan, I'm bummed to see Walker leave after his injury riddled pro career in blue. He was extremely hyped throughout the organization and the LA media when he was drafted. He was seen as the right handed Kershaw who had cy youngs in his future and eventually a long career with the Dodgers. BUT... sh1t definitely didn't work out in such a way. He's still got top shelf stuff and if he doesn't screw his arm up again; Boston may have gotten a steal

[@fromiowatoarizona9122]

With Corbin Burnes still unsigned, could he follow a similar trajectory to Jordan Montgomery in 2025

[@3SonsRC]

Ken, respect but your on something😂 Phillies best pitching staff in baseball, no mention of Yankees😂 it's the Dodgers and Yankees A+ and A in that order, everyone else that's "great" is a B+ or lower compared.

[@julianc6863]

Phillies fan it dont matter when u have 5 Wheelers when u don't hit n that's there problem

[@travis6694]

I love how people love to bash the red sox just because they don’t have 5 aces, their depth is good and they got what is available. Flaherty isn’t the answer and neither is burnes for 250 million.

[@ADHDriver]

Wtf....I didn't even get the noti from B/R about Buehler, Ken brought it to me first. To bad he went to Boston though, that's gonna suck lol

[@PANCHO15108]

He didn't have a spot. LA will always remember his Heroics in 2024 and all the other stuff he had done for LA. He will always be a Dodger Legend because of it. Wish him all the best.

[@caseyfenscke5895]

Ricky stealing 3rd base for the record. That’s all you need to see right there. Stealing 3rd base in the big leagues especially back then at that age. There will never be another like him.

[@johncummings5350]

How does Rosenthal not know that both the Dodgers and the Mariners have better pitching than the Phillies.....????

[@bruce5402]

The Yankees rotation is as good as any of them featuring a Cy young and rookie of the year

[@alesitercrimson24]

The top 3 are going to be a problem in a couple of years. Huge contracts for 30 plus year olds with injury issues

[@bruce5402]

@alesitercrimson24 Actually, Cole's contract is for only 3 more years, and yes, maybe the last year will be a problem. Even through an injury, he is so well conditioned that he came back mid-season and pitched better than most. Fried is 30 or 31, and yes, that is a long contract, but he looks like he can age gracefully since his fastball is not his best pitch. Rodon is the question mark but he pitched well last year. Gil and Schmidt are realitively young. There are some good arms in the organization. I was referring that these arms are good for 3+, which concides with Judge's prime. You can look at any of the staffs Ken mentioned and point to age and contract issues. So compared to them for 3 years, the Yankees are strong if healthy. Just like everyone else. You maid valid points, but again, I was comparing, and with that in mind, the Yankees are top 3 by most experts that I have read or listen to. Very fair points you made though.

[@sebastianshaw4031]

R.I .P The Ricker

[@cd.cd.cd.cd-cd]

$75 mil in this market not bad for what I hope remains a top of the rotation guy, if mets are gonna get pitching bargains they better go big in the bullpen (tanner scott?) and lineup, why not bregman AND alonso and let alonso and vientos rotate between DH and 1st base, why not?

[@eddya.3776]

Huge signing for Boston Buehler is only 30 years old people acting like he isn't a great pitcher. He was coming back from a long layoff was he expected to step right in and be the ace right away? My only critique of the signing is they should have tried to get another year or two but I'm sure Buehler wanted the one year so he can turn it into a bigger multi-year deal when he succeeds.

[@mattsbjjjourney5601]

Long layoff huh? More like 2nd TJ...

[@thefishhobbyist5478]

Huge? One year and he leaves. How is that going to help you this year?

[@justadude2800]

@@thefishhobbyist5478because he’ll be pitching this year.

[@thefishhobbyist5478]

@@justadude2800 so what does that even mean? He is not winning the division and for sure not a WS. So he is wasting a year.

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

Being “great” on paper doesn’t really do much. Remember last yr when everybody claimed the Mets rotation to be “garbage” well without Senga they had the 4th best ERA in the NL.

[@CatholicBaseball8]

The new rules are embarrassing, they don't allow the pitcher to keep the runners close. They are altering the stats for the worse.

[@CatholicBaseball8]

RIP Ricky 🙏❤

[@leam89]

Good. I don't want to watch the pitcher throw to 1st a dozen times

[@Peewyld]

Steals were way down, it’s good for the game. Nobody is catching Ricky even with the rule change don’t worry

[@EdPintor-t5d]

Should of just got burnes and signed urquidy

[@jeffteyrosado9966]

I don't like it laughable burnes please stop the penny pinching for pitching 😢😢😢😢

[@victoriaroberts7837]

Wha about Joe D?

[@ernestoazcona5268]

Where is burnes going

[@tonyb2109]

These deferrals are b.s. If there's not going to be a salary cap, I'm good with that, but there should not be referrals allowed.

[@eddya.3776]

Lou Gehrig over Honus Wagner and it shouldn't be close.

[@danielwetzel7777]

Braves rotation come on Strider and Sale

[@mamalannightshyaman]

Braves really didn't need to do anything this offseason except get their guys healthy. Still a top 3 team in the MLB when healthy

[@alesitercrimson24]

Sale is made of glass. You guys got extremely lucky this past season with him. Just wait

[@TheMacdod]

And that rookie schellanbach.. Braves are nasty if healthy. I bet they're not done either this winter.

[@somerandomguy5977]

Sean Manea has always thrown from a low slot.

[@Str8Maddeness]

Phillies can't compete with us!!

[@มุมุอิอิ-ท3ข]

Good rotation. Not best

[@johnstrawb3521]

@Foul Territory @Ken Rosenthal Sorry, Ken, but the stories of Manaea's 'superb' 2nd half are preposterous once you actually do the homework: a 4.05 ERA his last 14 starts (yes, the postseason counts) is a MOR, nothing like a TOR. Even if you do the ‘2nd half’ fairy tale the favor of confining yourself to just his last 10 regular season starts, his ERA then was 3.79, his FIP 4.03, his SIERA was 4.07, and even that decent ERA required a lottery-winning .191 BABIP Lest anyone think that BABIP was the result of a new, unlocked brilliance, think again. Greg Maddux had a .286 career BABIP, against the MLB average of .295 and even at his peak, winning four Cy Youngs in succession, his BABIP was only a remarkably good .260. Manaea’s freakish BABIP of .191 over his last ten starts was the prime ingredient of the false tale of second half brilliance. In truth he pitched adequately, was durable, _and was incredibly lucky._ It would be interesting to know whether the brilliant Maddux ever had even just one 10-start stretch in his entire career where he fluked into a .191 BABIP. It doesn't look like it from my sampling. The Mets needed a reasonably durable #3 and they got him for slightly less than Fried’s AAV, but without getting Fried’s age 30 to 32 prime-adjacent years. A 25m AAV for Manaea is probably necessary in the era where a pitcher like Taijuan Walker got 4/72m, but it’s hardly a steal despite the rumors Manaea was headed for a 4/100m contract. So-are the Mets aiming for Cease, or is even Nick Pivetta and a very good 6-man rotation too much to ask for?

[@Dwayne4007]

Come on cubs where ya at?!

[@BrainHealth-md8wx]

Has Rosenthal ever exercised? Where’s your shoulders?

[@ryancirrone3343]

That’s not a World Series Rotation 😂

[@JT-wn7wb]

That Mets rotation is going to get rocked. Hope they can score 7-10 runs a game.

[@9114SouthCentralAv]

🙄Walker to Boston. Fits right in. WAHKAH BUEHLAH

[@nickr3441]

Ohtani uses PEDs

[@DavidHamburg-i5d]

Unless he’s playing for the Blue Jays, of course.

[@nickr3441]

@DavidHamburg-i5d ofcourse he does. But bc he's Asian everyone turns a blind eye

[@DavidHamburg-i5d]

@@nickr3441 Just curious. As it happens, I’m a Cubs fan, so I see Ohtani as a great player who plays for another team. But, really, did someone tell you he uses PEDs?

[@nickr3441]

@@DavidHamburg-i5d he almost had a 60-60 season. If you think he's clean, then all the power to you. MLB will NEVER allow his PED use known

[@Sick_Boy.]

“Significant referrals “ ? the Mets are ruining baseball major-league baseball has to step in the New York Mets. Cannot keep getting away with this.

[@3SonsRC]

Mets pitching staff is A JOKE compared to the Yankees.... What was Soto thinking😂 Clark and Gil would probably be leading that Mets staff😂

[@mattsbjjjourney5601]

You got outbid

[@3SonsRC]

​@mattsbjjjourney5601 that wasn't my point, if he wanted to win he chose a team with a B pitching staff compared to an A. And the money yearly was not too far off, it was that massive signing bonus and the Yankees not giving him a Clubhouse which traditionally NO ONE gets, if Soto was bothered by that, ha, he thinks he deserves better treatment then every Yankee great before him that didn't get a clubhouse. OK dude, maybe you and the Mets were made for each other, Yankees are about legacy and no one player is greater than what the team is trying to do. Maybe Soto thinks differently.

[@mattsbjjjourney5601]

@@3SonsRC you asked what Soto was thinking...I told you

[@lacienzia]

Bro is about money why not take the most guaranteed money?

[@danielsilecchia1894]

How’d that 5th inning go again?

[@xKillZone99]

mets are just lacking an ace

[@Eric-tc5zq]

Yankee fans…. He’s gone. Get over it. Stop crying. You’ll live…… Ur not winning a WS lol….. but you’ll live🤣😉.

[@KayD14]

Mets deferred money? After spending over $700M this offseason?! They’re ruining baseball, folks!!!

[@donnypotter8606]

What r you talkin bout , soto makes $41

[@KayD14]

@ you right, $41 plus the suites, the charter plane, the clothing allowance, and the Grimace costume

[@ryancirrone3343]

And the Dodgers are still far better lol

[@KayD14]

@@ryancirrone3343 bingo

[@thefishhobbyist5478]

@@ryancirrone3343 Far? seems to me last year they gave you guys a good fight compared to the WS.

[@FittedInThe798]

Rangers yankees Alcs

[@Bean-qt4dy]

Dumb Leave Vientos at third and get Arrenado

[@WonkNRoll]

Swapping out Lowe for Burger at 1B is a pretty steep downgrade for the Rangers. Aside from HR pop, Lowe is much better on the field than Burger in every way.

[@graysonedwards3035]

lol what are you talking about. Yes Lowe was solid but not worth the salary he was gonna make. Not really a downgrade probably an upgrade. CY is one of the smartest executives in the game

[@WonkNRoll]

@@graysonedwards3035 By saving $10M, the Rangers lost 17 in OPS+ and got themselves a defensible liability instead of a plus defender. Also, they gave up three prospects to the fish and got a lousy pitcher from Nats. You're right, that's truly brilliant, my bad.

[@tecolotegto]

Lowe can't hit the fastball

[@tonylozado4313]

The Yankees have a great rotation and you didn’t mention it. I guess you hate the Yankees. That’s ok.

[@thefishhobbyist5478]

They do? What have they won with it?

[@tonylozado4313]

@ That’s and ignorant thing to say. They just got 3 new pitchers.

[@thefishhobbyist5478]

@@tonylozado4313 Ignorant? You have no proof it is great, YET..

[@BrainHealth-md8wx]

Rosenthal sucks

[@mikecha3002]

Its an odd year watch out for Bruce Bochy

[@leam89]

What are the Jays doing? They are so pathetic