The INSANE plane built to fight fires - CL 415

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[@FoundAndExplained]

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[@realalbertan]

Dehavilland has the rights to build the updated CL-515 & it's building a new in house airfield east of Calgary

[@realalbertan]

You pronounced Bombardier incorrectly - try Bomb - bard - eee - eh

[@willfrankunsubscribed]

The challenge of more firefighting aircraft is cost of maintenance. Everybody wants the aircraft when there's a fire, but no one wants to pay for the aircraft when there isn't a fire. Because of such limited budgets, it's impossible to maintain a larger fleet.

[@FoundAndExplained]

what a fantastic take. i’ll keep note of this

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Instead we got a president who want to deport immigrants who lets be real are a result of our poor immigration policy and poor foreign policy he wany to invade Venezuela and Panama and threatening Mexico and Canada

[@bazoo513]

Yes, when firefighting is dome by private companies. Nobody needs aircraft carriers right now, right?

[@Edax_Royeaux]

The cost of the fires, may change that calculus. I'm hearing conservatives recommend that LA completely scourge it's wilderness of all plant life which sounds more expensive and more likely to cause landslides then just getting some more DC-10s retrofitted.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

@@FoundAndExplained If the Canadair came also was made in an amphibious only version, the cost of maintenance would be lowered & the water capacity would be increased. This would work for certain cities where bodies of water would be available for a home base, but some aircraft with landing will still be needed... As for large jetliner based firefighting aircraft, good enough used aircraft needs to be purchased for conversion & for parts. As converting jetliners for "cargo use only" significantly lowers the maintenance costs. When they do reach the point of needing a major rebuild, they can be parted out & the firefighting gear transferred to a lower flight hours aircraft... Essentially this cost reduction is by using bangers for firefighting instead of aircraft that will be taken care of to ensure the longest possible service life. As one pass that resulted in debris entering the engines & damaging certain instruments can either cost a lot of money to fix or simply replacing it with another five million dollar banger from the airlines...

[@428ghost]

Every French-Canadian sprayed coffee at your pronunciation of Bombardier ;-)

[@ianrobertson3419]

As an Anglo, I also spit my coffee.

[@BTD3Fan]

@@ianrobertson3419 yeah

[@BTD3Fan]

that being said they can just learn to spell correctly

[@LIL-RED-BIRD]

🇨🇦 from Ontario I winced, I’ll let a native French speaker explain the correct pronunciation.

[@P.T.S.E.]

But bombarding air does sound cooler.

[@miketeeveedub5779]

Up here in Canada the CL-215s and 415s are common-enough sights for me since I live near an airport. I especially like the older 215 for one fact alone; the sound. It uses the old school radial engines, and it sounds like a WW2 bomber when it flies overhead. I still stop whatever I'm doing when outside just to see and hear these tireless flying fire engines. Cheers!

[@davidhollenshead4892]

The 215's are being updated to 415's as time allows as radial engines are a maintenance time hog and it is becoming harder to get replacement engines. The reason that the Dehavolon single engine radial is now getting new radial engines from Poland as the original replacements are NLA. This is also one of the reasons that DC3's are being upgraded to Turboprop engines, even though it requires lengthening the fuselage...

[@alonedoughnut]

​@@davidhollenshead4892Small correction: CL-215s are being upgraded to the CL-215T standard. The 415 and 215 are different airframes entirely, but adding a turboprop hugely increases the performance of the 215. Though older airframes are still using the radials for training purposes.

[@PaulHodgson-gm6lg]

I worked on the 215T upgrade, the aircraft are totally stripped, inspected, rewired. The CL515 will have PWC 123, 2500 hp engines.@@alonedoughnut

[@La.máquina.de.los.sueños]

As Quebecer, I'm proud to see Bombardier's CL-415 videos and how loved these planes are. 🥰

[@CanaDig]

Fr

[@DaveScott-sj2ji]

I'm an Albertan also proud of the Cl-215's and Cl-415's !

[@La.máquina.de.los.sueños]

@ 💔!!! Personally, I still prefer the CL-215, it had "sexier" lines, but I understand why they moved on (tons of ailerons = more manoeuvrability).

[@bubassvaba6221]

I have worked on one of these last summer in Croatian Airforce. Truly impressive piece of engineering.

[@oda0550]

​@FoundAndExplained Thank you for another great video! 215s, 215Ts and 415s have saved my bacon many times as a helitac firefighter. Most everything you mentioned was spot on, but I have a couple corrections for you. There are two vertical water tanks immediately in front of the main landing gear. You can see a vent port just under the wing on each side where water will spill out when they are full. They are placed directly under the centre of lift to maintain stability rather than in the belly near the nose where the aircraft would become nose heavy and unstable. The scoops are also surprisingly small. The 415MP has a search radar, however this is meant for maritime patrol. Radar would not be very helpful in finding hotspots for firefighting. Thanks for putting up with my pedantry and for shining a light on these beauties!

[@davidhollenshead4892]

While radar won't be helpful for finding hot spots, Infrared Cameras would as they can indicate the hot spot that is obscured by smoke...

[@oda0550]

@davidhollenshead4892 Absolutely! They are very commonly used in helping to extinguish a fire once it's contained and controlled. I've worked with high accuracy heli mounted FLIRs, but not on a scooper. It's not common as the cost per flight hour on a 415 is much greater than a light helicopter.

[@petersilva037]

yeah @5:51 the placement of the tanks is all wrong, they are directly under the wings perhaps a little forward, but not much. it's for obvious cg reasons.

[@kstricl]

I got to watch a pair of 415s working in tandem in the BC interior around 2007. They were pulling from a 2000ft or so long stretch of straight river and they were using all of it. Very impressive to see in person.

[@adubs3080]

I got to see a few last summer in bc when the fires got near a family member’s house I was staying at

[@TrevorTrottier]

Pretty nice for a country that keeps being threatened with annexation with one of the countries they help.

[@Danbatio]

I live in Bariloche, Argentina's Patagonia, where wildfires spread all summers. In the 80s came two CL215 from Chile and worked flawlessly until one of them crashed in a lake due a sunked tree. One of the pilots died. They back to Chile and never got back. We missed them on every wildfire. I hope someday our politians buy or at least rent some CL415.

[@TheCristinelo]

2:44 Bombade😂😂. Great video! As a Canadian (Quebecer), I'm proud of this plane and the attention it gets.

[@unbiased_expediency]

Another advantage of the CL-215/415, ground-based tankers like the DC-10 need to land after every drop to take on more water or retardant, whereas the super scooper can make multiple drops if a water source is available until they need to be refueled.

[@cameroncurrie7208]

In eastern Canada when I was in the army we were fighting a big forest fire and one of our APCs was stuck we were using another one to pull it out, and it got stuck. So like in war we called in a strike on our position.. standing right under one of those getting bombed was something I won't forget.

[@simonrancourt7834]

1:33 The 215 was THE first aircraft designed specificly to fight fire.

[@matsv201]

Well it was the first model. Not the forst airframe.

[@simonrancourt7834]

@matsv201 There where other airplanes before, but they where converted from other uses.

[@matsv201]

@@simonrancourt7834 yea. That is the difftance between firdt model and first designed.

[@simonrancourt7834]

@@matsv201 Your lack of intelligence and spelling compells me to end this "conversation".

[@Archiereynolds-i5m]

The purpose built convair fire cat was the first I believe it also has twin radials and later turbo fire cats were fitted with turboprops.

[@Kishanth.J]

It should be mentioned that a new model of these aircraft, the CL-515 is currently in plans of production. Their are already countries pre ordering these aircraft and while I can’t recall the difference between the two I heard the new planes while improve on the shortcomings of the current ones.

[@rickfeng4466]

With a very vocal minority of Albertans wanting to be the 51st state, I believe the federal government should use national security reasons to block DHC moving its production to Alberta☹️

[@JFrazer4303]

The 515 also has options like passenger and cargo carrying, and SAR. Some may of refitted for different tasks or specially built. Indonesia I believe has orders for utility and SAR variants as opposed to firefighters.

[@chat-1978]

Funny thing, all shining marketing footage are from easy scenery. All live footage with dangerous maneuvers are from Greece. The terrain is so dangerous that is just incredible, hence the incidents

[@TV-kj3gi]

And in July 2023 a Greek Canadair CL-415 crashed during firefighting killing both pilots. A,F.A.I.K this was shown live on TV. There's definitely footage of the crash existent.

[@JFrazer4303]

Much of the footage is of Croatian air force planes, from the "edostuff" channel.

[@chat-1978]

@ VERY similar countries 👍

[@mississaugaicedogs]

The CL415 already has new brother on its way, the CL515.

[@monstrogoth]

I absolutely love theses genious planes ! My childhood village in southern France was saved from a monstruous fire, thanks to theses planes and their heroic pilots ! Thanks to Canadair and now Bombardier to make theses marvelous flying machines ! Your video is great !

[@XolarPoweredHistory21]

As an LA resident who loves aviation, I have personally called CalFire and our forest service thanking them for their remarkable flying skills, as I carefully watched Grumman S-2T trackers, skycranes, the CL 415, and even massive C130s putting out these fires, along with the diligent fire hawks that have been Protecting the homes in northern LA where I live. The disinformation I have seen is frankly disappointing. People who only care about LA to point fingers at it, and criticize now suddenly are acting like experts. From a political science and history scholar, I would like to inform them that LA has a long history of red lining and poor zoning laws that build right up into the chaparral , which is literally evolved to be flammable. It is lobbyists and rich land owners that lobby to have this risky, construction, and places like Malibu will burn every 10 years, and the lobbyist count on us forgetting. This is not an LA problem, this is not a leadership problem, this is about private interest, and the fact that they do not care about us. Thank you for what you do, F&E, and for your empathy also having struggled with fires. Can we get a video on the F-89 Scorpion? It’s a fav of mine.

[@JFHeroux]

NOTE: A CL-515 variant has entered production... but is not getting enough order to make the endeavour profitable. It seems like the governments of some countries do not really care if they are ill equipped to put out major fires. BTW, that is not anywhere close to how you pronounce Bombardier. Did you know you can enter a word in Google Translate, click the little speaker button and it is going to speak the word out loud for you? That would clearly come VEY handy for you!😉

[@rdapigleo]

Thanks for sharing our perspective on fires Mate 👍 The world can look to us for examples on how to try to prepare for bushfires. Sometimes, there’s no fighting them. They are literally firestorms that can’t be believed, but they’re real. L.A. experienced what country towns have experienced. Sydney came close to that over a decade ago. It got lucky.

[@jimmyj1969]

Here in Greece (as in most Mediterranian countries), CL-213 & CL-415 are a common sight every summer, since they are the backbone of aerial firefighting, being suitable for our mountainous terrain, capable of discharge their water even inside ravins or on steep cliffs. Their pilots are real heros, sometimes losing their lifes (as mentioned in the video), as they operate on the edge of aircraft's limits. Furthermore, piloting in an old CL-215 during a forest fire is a real hell, since they do not have airconditioning, with temperatures inside the cockpit exceeding 50oC! There are many much bigger firefighting planes (the russian Beriev being the most popular), but they are most suitable for open plains or valleys, which require large quantities of water. Firefighting planes, in general, are NOT used in inhabited areas, as the water drop can injure or even kill people on the ground - their role is to contain the fire around towns or cities, leaving firefighting inside them to the ground forces.

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

The water isn't in the front of the belly as you showed. There are two large tanks inside the cabin located amidships.

[@stancunningham3711]

Former CL-415 manufacturer guy here: the “header tanks” in the cabin hold some water but mostly to allow the spray and foam to vent off. The bulk of the water is in the fuselage hull.

[@redheron]

Fantastic to see footage from the CL-415 in Microsoft Flight Simulator on here ! 👍😎

[@Michaelonyoutub]

Every design aspect of the aircraft just seems so perfectly designed for Canada. Lakes are everywhere in Canada, like zoom in on google maps and see that it is literally like 30% lakes. Canada does not have much infrastructure near much of its wilderness, so the ability to refill very quickly at any body of water is immensely useful. Planes can also be stationed on lakes throughout fire season, meaning you don't have to build permanent runways out in the wilderness for them, instead you could station and refuel one at a dock on a lake, far from much of civilization, but hooked up to a road where you could bring in a fuel truck when needed.

[@alonedoughnut]

I spent summers in Gimli Manitoba, listening to CL-215s do practice missions and actual missions. One lf my favourite planes lf all time. Thanks for the bit of Canadiana love. Also on the topic of building more lf them, de Havilland Canada is spinning up a brand new factory to increase the amount of them build. I guarantee if you want to see the worl theyre doing on the new 515, theyd love to show you around.

[@TheLiamster]

This is great aircraft. The US Forest Service and state agencies should have at least 100 of these

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Agreed, as well as converted jetliners for the really big jobs...

[@lepotdefleur9906]

Not sure with the stupid trade ware now.

[@nzxt1234]

This aircraft left a lasting impression on me as a child. In the 1990s, during a forest fire near the lake where I grew up in Sweden, I remember seeing and hearing this plane in action. At the time, Sweden was testing and evaluating it, with discussions about potentially buying it. Watching it work during the fire made me wish Sweden had purchased these. Over the decades, it could have made such a difference in fighting fires like that one. sweden just recently a few years back bouth sadly not these but a diffrent smaller air craft a few AT-802 Fire boss

[@byzmack1334]

A company I worked for sold their Bell 214b1 (an awesome machine) to Australia for fire fighting. Look up that beast of a machine. Even just its history is cool. There are only 26 left I think and the vast majority of them are in Australia fighting fires for MacDermott I think.

[@AngryCanine]

what makes the small aircraft better then the larger aircraft is that it will drop 5 to 6 times more often, or more then a larger DC-10 for example. Bigger loads doesn't mean it is better, as dropping more often can and will be more effective to fighting fires, and the smaller aircraft such as the CL-415 are much cheaper to maintain then an aging DC-10, and part of that reason is the CL-415 and 215 and even the newer 515's are built cheaply as possible without sacrificing quality. I do think every country should have multiple of these aircraft, 2 or more depending on the size of the country because they are extremely useful tools, even for water rescue operations since they can land in the water, not just skim the surface to collect water. Hell they would make really good coast guard aircraft for dropping supplies to sailors in the water, even landing near them and picking them up out of the water then taking off, they have the space for a lot of people inside and rescue equipment.

[@Kiljaedenas]

Another key thing of bigger vs smaller aircraft, the bigger tankers are no where near as nimble as a CL-415 and have to do their drops from a much higher altitude, so they can have accuracy problems. The CL-415s and the absolute badasses flying them have downright tactical precision, and the plane is capable of weaving into position around terrain to hit the most vital spots of the fire.

[@vondertann8218]

9:40 HLST I'm literally sweating when i see the power lines, that's really impressive for the pilots i'd say

[@JamesJuniper-u7x]

at this point i'm struggling to distinguish the animations from the historical footage, great job

[@user-rj1ed3gf4f]

As a Canadian thank you for covering this! Proud to see them in the skies.. look up the martin Water Bomber that was retired. Might be a cool video

[@davidhollenshead4892]

A real use for the massive sea-planes that really were too big for the military...

[@user-rj1ed3gf4f]

@davidhollenshead4892 agreed. Also really cool yo see in person. Don't realize how big they are until you're next to it. Was perfect use 👌

[@cerviplays6691]

Do a video on the twin otter

[@shadow1961]

You might consider doing a show about the Martin Mars, or maybe the evolution of this practice postwar.

[@ashelyfrankow149]

fun fact dehavilland Canada is making a new one! the 515 is set for delivery in a few years and is currently in early stages of production!

[@markwallace1727]

Australia has over 500 firefighting aircraft of many types. Lots of rotary aircraft and good old 3,000L Airtractors that can use smaller bodies of water to scoop from, which is handy for us. A couple based near where I am, and lovely to see them fly over when fires are about. Right up to the modern 10,000L Bombardier Q400AT. Many different types of aircraft, but sadly I don't believe we have any of this beauty. Not sure we particularly need this one though, as I'd expect one of the 150+ operators would have bought them if needed. Wouldn't go astray having some, but each type has a different role and ability. Anyway, nice video just thought I'd point out that it's not like we don't already have a large fleet of aerial firefighting aircraft.

[@PaulHodgson-gm6lg]

Every summer. 5 air trackers practice on the lake I live on setting up to douce my house. Kind of makes me feel safe.

[@watermelonman122]

My dad works on 10 Tanker. I think he was saying the 747 was unable to pass the certification tests that would certify it with the USFS to fight fires. The tests involve a series of buckets along a runway that all have to be filled to a certain amount during a drop pass and for whatever reason the aircraft just couldn't pass the test.

[@hebijirik]

It would be interesting to compare how much water per hour or per day can the CL-415 deliver compared to those much larger like DC-10 or 747. They have to return to an airport big enough to take them, land, taxi to a stand, get refilled by pumps, taxi again and take off and return to the fire. The CL-415 in the meantime drops smaller loads but depending on the distance to the nearest long enough water surface it can repeat that a hundred times a day. So it would be interesting to calculate how near the this water surface has to be to the fire in order for the CL-415 to actually drop more water per day than the DC-10. I bet it would win not just in the current California fires with sea next to them but in a lot of other cases too. And on price per liter dropped it is probably winning almost all the time given it is a medium sized turboprop and and not a large jet airliner. The cost per flight hour is probably very different.

[@vudinhanphu273]

Plane 2 taught me way more than i had needed to know abt this

[@kaelanreynolds9762]

Canada once had the Martin Mars

[@ianrobertson3419]

You can tell when the tanks are full up by the water pouring out above the landing gear.

[@WingsandBlades257]

CL415 AND CANADA MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@jimroberts3009]

Strangely, I find the CL-415 a neat, good looking aircraft

[@ianrobertson3419]

If the 415 has access to water it can usually put more down than the 747 which has to return to an airport to be refilled.

[@davidhollenshead4892]

That is very dependent on the location, due to the many factors including the distance from the airport to fire...

[@ianrobertson3419]

@davidhollenshead4892 yes, exactly. That's why many types of aircraft are used in firefighting operations.

[@DailyLifeSolution]

I first saw this plane on a programme on an infotainment channel. It might be Discovery or National Geographic. It is an interesting plane enought to make me smile as I watched the video.

[@randomstuffman01]

Thanks. toronto canada

[@maube8007]

That thing must be fun to fly.

[@GastonBouchaud]

I love the cl415 and when I was in Mallorca last year I saw one fly by three times

[@swisstestpilot]

Please do a video about the Beriev Be-200.

[@TV-kj3gi]

@@swisstestpilot supporting this request too

[@czlowiekzhuty]

Hero of the day!!!

[@ViaAvione]

Heroes! "Oh Canada!"

[@andrewjackson5127]

True or not. I heard the comment that aerial fire fighting is the least effective. At least at putting OUT the fire. They try to prevent it from spreading more. The real work is done on the ground.

[@oda0550]

This is true. Although the load of water the tankers drop is large for one go, it can't match the total volume of continuous pumping or the accuracy of a nozzle. Tankers are great for calming flame fronts, but they don't contain or control a wildfire

[@kstricl]

Depends on the terrain. The 415 is the most effective method, along with bucket helos, when the terrain is very steep. Also when you have a ready source of water and trying to put a stop quick near a structure that ground crews can't access in time or safely. When conditions are calm and the fire is slow moving, ground crews are better.

[@HeadhunterKev96]

"Try to prevent it from spreading more" is the only important thing in a situation like that. You can't put the fire out, you prevent it from spreading and wait til it consumes all and goes out.

[@davidlis7974]

I first saw this plane in expendables 2 and thought it was the coolest plane ever

[@ParaglidingManiac]

Thank you for using MSFS 2024 footage. Don't mean to brag, but I'm pretty good with 415 there myself... In a sim.

[@davidblanchard150]

They clearly took heavy inspiration from the WWII era Catalina seaplane

[@alvinhokokonn7218]

Malaysia have 2 Bombardier CL 415 MP in operation for Malaysia Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) which is uncommonly available in South East Asian Region.

[@i_nameless_i-jgsdf]

04:17 Ayo ! A leaked scene of the Mitsubishi F-2 ?!?

[@paddycakee5708]

I know you have done a vid on the CH-47D but have you seen them operating in the firefighting capacity? Many operators are now allowed to operate at night using night vision googles.

[@BobPruett]

7:43 cool shot

[@yukikaze1992]

Malaysia bought a pair for our Coast Guard. Apart for enforcement duty they were deployed multiple times to Indonesia to assist local govt in fire fighting. Why we did it? The smoke frome these fire will cover both Malaysia and Singapore in haze

[@deepat]

Do a detailed video on them chemicals going into people's lungs

[@quantum_beeb]

Have to make sure the location is evacuated because using ocean water on fires is SUPER toxic

[@Villy-dv5yn]

its sad to see peopls homes get burned but the forrests still need fires to suvive

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Adam Conover did a video say maybe we shouldn't on certain area because they're going to burn down repeatedly

[@PanchoElBarbas]

That's the Sea Duck from Tail Spin

[@1997txag]

You shold talk about airliner number four.

[@JFrazer4303]

Bel Geddes, 1930s.

[@meetoo594]

Not sure if its the same model of plane but there is footage of a similar one having both wings snap off in mid air and the rest of it torpedo into the ground.

[@nullc0ntext]

Oh shit, I think I hit one of these with my drone the other day!

[@NotLittleMs.Midnight]

Will you do a video on the helicopters with the water buckets?

[@kindra11111]

ITS A WATER BOMBER NOT A SCOOPER. -from: every concerned canadian

[@awabaziz7029]

Pls make a video on the jf 17 thunder

[@mikewilliams1479]

Can you do The Hurricane Aircrafts? I think one is an Orion and the other looks like a Gulfstream

[@taiyoki_futatsu]

Canadas pride! 🇨🇦 ❤

[@naga2015kk]

which plane holds the record for the LARGEST fire fighting plane

[@Closterman888]

I might be mistaken but I think some 747 where converted as water bomber.

[@Aschraffff]

CL-415s are more efficient than a huge 747. You need to get as close as possible to the fire, and be able to reload and rotate quickly. The 747 or any jet, would be just light rain, and kinda inefficient.

[@solarflare623]

Hold up…. Is that a FRENCH roundel on that thing!?

[@superdupergrover9857]

SUPAH SCOOPAH!!

[@DananB]

it's also one of the few that can use salt water.

[@MCscarfacematt]

it wasnt called a "super scooper" until it got to California they just didn't want to say that Canada sent our bombers down there

[@JFrazer4303]

The water tanks are not under screw spaces. Only directly under the wings, vertically arranged upright. I guess the makers of this video didn't bother to do much research.

[@SpiderDev-n4e]

holy moly 1 hour ago and another beautiful vid? HECK YEAH!

[@lunarmodule6419]

Interesting thx

[@edutaimentcartoys]

nice video

[@alfanas4661]

if only nations would corporate on spending on things that helps lives other than spending on things that takes lives

[@Wickeddemon86]

The only modern aircraft that can do it better than the CL-415 is the US-2, the US-2 is a 4 engine seaplane that can land and take off more than 100 meters shorter then the CL-415 and hold up to 15 tons of water along with the US-2 is faster but no governments have invested in this aircraft as a water bomber despite the better all-round performance

[@Wickeddemon86]

I dare Found and Explained to make a video on the US-2 as a water bomber to bring more attention to it, governments need to invest in aircraft like this not just the CL-415

[@themalhotras1597]

@@Wickeddemon86and also larger, heavier and more expensive to maintain too, right?

[@themalhotras1597]

@@Wickeddemon86it sounds good but would be impractical. more expensive to build = less airframes = less flexibility

[@Wickeddemon86]

@@themalhotras1597 it costs 3 times the amount of a CL-415 but also holds 3 times as much water so there is no real big price distances, look at the passenger jet conversions they require more maintenance than the US-2 but yet are still used, weird

[@oda0550]

Each aircraft serves a different role in aerial firefighting. While big planes with big loads can drop lots of water or retardant, they can't get very close to the ground or into valleys. The higher you drop the wider the dispersal, the lower the effectiveness. Big passenger jet conversions also have to operate further from the very turbulent air close to a fire. The 747 and DC10 are most often used to drop retardant lines ahead or on the flanks of a fire to try to limit spread. They also have to return to an airfield to reload. Scoopers like the 415 and Fireboss do more direct attack to suppress fire intensity and growth

[@MTTT1234]

With the growing number of wildfires everywhere in the world, I have been wondering if Airbus could have used one of their now decommissioned A380, as there are now dozens of them out of use, and rebuilt them as giant water bombers so to speak. With how big they are, they probably could store a lot more water all at once and drop that over a wildfire, as well as having a giant range and great speed, to help out quickly wherever needed. Though I guess with how low their engines are hanging you cannot really scoop up any water with these flying giants. Maybe they could do it with very long extendable scoops?

[@davidhollenshead4892]

You simply don't want to fly a large aircraft close to the terrain as they will have trouble climbing after they scoop. Also the jet engines are not designed for the water they will ingest while scooping as jetliners have their engines close to the ground...

[@Geo87884]

Croatia have 10 cl 415 and will buy new cl 515 while usa has 0

[@combiolus3907]

Thats why canadians are known for being nice

[@christianlassen7027]

🇨🇦 made the beaver best bush plain ever. And these water bombers as well.

[@paleoph6168]

It’s Dipper!

[@maube8007]

In spite of how great this plane is, Bombardier has gone waaaay down in quality. They make trains that are always years late and grossly over-budget. And often times they have to be retro-fitted on site because the wheels are too wide for the tracks or something stupid like that. They're basically Canada's Boeing.

[@jgr7487]

But could it have a passenger transport version?

[@JFrazer4303]

The new 515 can be built in different variants.

[@wazzer5293]

Cl 215 & 415 water gallaons full tank?

[@Timmycoo]

As a Californian who lives in Oregon now, thank you for that last statement. Our fire seasons piggyback each other for Cali and Oregon so we send strike teams back and forth. It is disheartening to see the misinformation being spread online about the management and pretty much anything else in the way the LA fires (and Cali fires in general) are being handled. That being said, I have the utmost respect for all of the firefighting crews and it's amazing what they do day-in and day-out. Also, that 747 comparison was absolutely nuts lol.

[@rexmcstiller4675]

Germany has a problem. We have a rising risk of forrest and wild fires but not a single fire plane or helicopter. It´s not evan considert to equip and train the helicopter pilot of the Bundeswehr for that.

[@TV-kj3gi]

@@rexmcstiller4675 That’s only partly true. Germany doesn’t have any firefighting planes, but has helibuckets for firefighting via helicopters, e.g. the Federal Police Bundespolizei has trained their crews on waterdropping via helibucket.

[@DavidL-ii7yn]

Bombard-air?? It is pronounced Bombar-deee-eh

[@pyeitme508]

YES!

[@Bourne246]

24 minutes ago.. new record for me

[@dugress5]

18 minutes ago is crazy

[@CraigLandsberg-lk1ep]

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