Insane Flying Wing Jet Fighter To Save Germany - Horten Ho 229 Nazi UFO

Edit: I am aware my name pronunciations are terrible in this episode!
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In the waning hours of world war two, the allies faced a new terror in the skies. It had twin engines, twin machine guns, and flew like nothing they had ever seen before.
It was capable of flying faster than traditional planes, impossible to detect on radar, and it would prove to be the winning hand for the defense of the nazi state.
But this alternative history never happened.
The Ho 229 was a radical departure from modern aircraft design, and had it been rolled out, could have change the the outcome of the war, the way we design planes today and even led to something far more sinister…
This is the original flying wing, the Horten 229.
As BBC Future noted in 2016, the ‘flying wing’ design is not a common sight in the skies because it’s an incredibly hard concept to make work.
Remember, the main tail of any aircraft keeps it stable and prevents it from swerving or yawing from side to side.
Therefore, a lack of tail makes the aircraft a lot harder to control.
Even more of a challenge is what happens to an aircraft without a tail when its engine stops; that is, can it still fly during a stall?
The ability to do that is an inherent capability that any aircraft has to be able to do.
So why would you try to build an aircraft inherently difficult to fly?
Because a flying wing has several benefits. For one thing, it’s difficult to spot on radar, since it has no tail fins that are what usually bounce back radar waves back to earth.
For another, a flying wing is sleek and smooth in shape, which means it has minimal drag.
That should make it a lot lighter and more fuel-efficient than most fighter jets.
Lastly, it should theoretically fly faster than a conventional plane using the same engine.
The famous Northrop B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, first released in 1989, is a modern example of a flying wing aircraft.
Before that Northrop was working on a propeller bomber design, called the XB-35, and later upgraded to the YB-49 with jet engines.
But believe it or not, they were not the first.
Go back more than four decades from when the B-2 stealth bomber was launched and you have a far earlier plan for a flying wing - and a fairly stunning one at that.
It was the Ho 229 and it was set to revolutionize the air force of a certain country fighting a certain major war at the time.
The Horten Ho 299 was a sleek number, measuring 7.4 metres or 24 feet 3 inches in length at its centre-line, with a total wingspan of 16.8 metres or 55 feet 1 inch.
The Horten wing concept addressed the whole engine stall dilemma that afflicts flying wing aircraft by ensuring that the aircraft would keep stable at all times.
Bowers says that the Horten wing not only cancelled out the yawing issues that an aircraft without a wing can suffer, but that it also dramatically reduced drag.
The Horten Ho’s cockpit height was a decidedly low 1.1 metres or just 3 feet 7 inches, although it overall height was 2.81 metres or 9 feet 3 inches.
Unsurprisingly, this cramped space meant that it only allowed for one crew member - and even that would be damn tight for said pilot.
Its range was a highly impressive 1,900 kilometres or 1,200 miles, noteworthy too because it was far in excess of the 1,000 kilometre range demanded by Herman Göring.
It also had a flying ceiling of 15,000 metres or 49,000 feet, which was useful in terms of stealth.
That allowed for performance outputs of a maximum speed of 960 kilometres or 600 miles per hour or Mach 0.77 at sea level, whilst having an acceleration speed of up to 977 kilometres or 600 miles per hour or Mach92 at an altitude of 12,000 metres or 39,000 feet.Its cruise speed was 900 kilometres or 560 miles per hour.
And why weren’t those speeds particularly impressive? Because the attentive among my listeners will have realized that none of those speeds matched or exceeded the 1,000 kilometres per hour demanded by Herr Göring.
Even so, it was said to possess a ‘never exceed speed’ of just 1,000 kilometres or 620 miles per hour. Perhaps Göring was suitably impressed by a take-off speed of 150 kilometres or 93 miles per hour and a rate of climb of 22 metres per second or 4,300 feet per minute.
In terms of armaments, the Ho 229 was hardly packing, being only able to carry two 30 mm or 1.181 inch MK 108 cannons.
Nevertheless, the Nazis believed that an entire squadron of them would have sufficed in what would have been their main role, which was to hunt and shoot down the fleets of Allied bombers that were attacking Germany’s industrial plants, main infrastructure and largest cities.
Alas, reality made all these ambitious plans come crashing down

[@FoundAndExplained]

Troy Tempest: Some pronunciation tips - North-rop not North-rope. H-O not Ho 229. Göring - Ger-ring, 1000kph - 625mph not 620. I'm glad you're deferring to metric and then Imperial. Reimar Horton, in German you always pronounce the second vowel, so Ri (rye) mar. 2 cannons not two machine guns. The Germans did know the British had radar during the Battle of Britain, they attacked the radar towers often. Junkers is Yunkers (J pronounced Y), W is pronounced V. A squadron is 16 planes, one squadron would not have had any realistic effect on the US bomber fleet. They would have needed hundreds of them. Hope you do a video on the Me 163 Komet, worlds first, and only, operational rocket fighter! Hail!

[@FoundAndExplained]

Sorry for these mistakes :) I have learned for next time!

[@thatboifat6303]

Yes they just keep getting better at one point we just might think it's real

[@uingaeoc3905]

You missed 'Ho IX, as 'Aitch Eye Ex' instead of 'Aitch Nine' ie Roman Numerals.

[@jackburton9035]

I might also add that two 30mm cannons being called "hardly packing" a huge understatement considering that in testing the mk 108 was able to cause critical damage with only a few shots. Though I do understand that there is a subjective argument to be made on whether multiple smaller calibre machine guns would have been better considering mass on target.

[@blu5021]

It’s alright!

[@23gt17]

I'd like to try some of those Luftwaffles...they sound delicious.

[@Tagishlicht]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to do a rewind and hear that again.

[@MrTruehoustonian]

Luftwaffles with chicken with maple syrup and whipped cream those are the best dang Germans always coming up with the craziest concoction

[@dirt_ripper8734]

I like my Luftwaffles with fresh blueberries, a big dip of vanilla ice cream and sweet maple syrup. 😆

[@coco_killua3057]

Bruh unfunny as hell

[@dirt_ripper8734]

@@coco_killua3057 unlike your genitals, yo ex said they funny as hell

[@LowStuff]

A 30mm mineshell has the equivalent in explosives of a hand grenade. There were tests done by the allies. A single hit on a smaller plane like a fighter was always listed as "lethal" or "probably lethal". Even on heavy bombers, a 30mm mineshell caused severe damage to the structure and ripped parts off. Naturally with the lower cadence and less ammo carried, they'd more often be used against large targets. 30mm guns were ideal for intercepting bomber formations.

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Hence some German aircraft adapted as/for interceptor role carried the MK-103 in gunpods while others carried the -108 internally.

[@nebunezz_r]

Specifically the testing was done on a Bristol Blenheim, pre war British bomber

[@keck4022]

A-10 Warthog be Like

[@dennis17116]

The point is the technology was far superior.

[@tufflucal4037]

@@dennis17116 Hello. I would like to let everyone know that, the H-229, is not THE Nazi secret weapon or a lot of you may call it. Yes the developement of this aircraft is very real, but It is a cover up to what the Nazis were actually planning under the surface.

[@DiverWithTheBends]

"Hardly packing" *Twin 30mm machine cannons capable of blasting an aircraft in twain with mine shells*

[@alexander1485]

Just machine guns ya hurred

[@DiverWithTheBends]

@@alexander1485 Pardon, 30mm is in fact a cannon caliber. The german nomenclature use MK to denote a machine cannon (or at least that is the literal translation) compared to what would be described as a machine gun (which in german nomenclature was below 15mm, although maybe one of the 20mm cannons used MG in its designation)

[@IshijimaKairo]

MK = MaschinenKannone MG = MaschinenGewehr, pretty simple

[@DiverWithTheBends]

@@IshijimaKairo Thanks m8, I just didn't want to butcher the spelling of maschinen because I... don't speak german lol

[@leneanderthalien]

none Horten flying wing was armed and only some prototypes did fly, all the rest is pure invention...and the 30mm german air cannon was pretty bad: low accuracy, low reliazbility, the 20mm Hispano Suiza HS404 (french design cannon (use on Morane 406 and Dewoitine D520, firing trough propeller shaft), adopted from the Brits with some mods to fit in the wings) was MUCH better...

[@sand9627]

Very detailed proud to see these channels which show everything in detail and also explain in detail

[@petrovivanoff7377]

even though he gives out incorrect data? I suggest watching Military Aviation History on the HO 229 as his information is correct Sadly this guy keeps referring to data thats false It's definitely an interesting and fun channel but sad and annoying when he uses bad sources

[@nick15684]

"... hardly packing, only carrying two 30mm cannons." lol Wut? That's a very powerful armament, a single shell from either of those 2 cannons would be enough to completely destroy most fighter aircraft. At the very least, it would put a very big hole in it. These were relatively fast-firing fully automatic 30mm cannons for their day too, so even just a few seconds on target would be enough to inflict catastrophic damage. I don't think you have any grasp on just how powerful 30mm cannons are.

[@user-Xx0xxxxx]

yeah, 30mm minengeschoß shells could nearly sever the tail of bombers in a single hit, the only reason it could be said to be not too powerful is because stuff like like the Me 262 had 4 30mm mk 108 autocannons and also 2 20mm MG151/20s

[@Nafeels]

@@user-Xx0xxxxx Preach. Those M-shells were known to rip Allied bombers, and that’s coming from a single MK-108 on a Bf-109. The only downside maybe was the equally powerful blowback from the autocannons, which rumbled throughout the fuselage. They weren’t called “pneumatic hammers” by pilots for nothing.

[@nebunezz_r]

If it's the MK103 30mm gun then it is indeed underwhelming since the build quality was kinda shit so they have to use smaller propellant causing slower muzzle velocity, if it's the MK 108 then it's a different kind of beast in itself.

[@13deadghosts]

@@nebunezz_r Nope, the reason for the low muzzle velocity is the short barrel, wich is only about 0,5m long, giving you about 500 m/s at the muzzle. The barrel was so short to cut down on space and and weight. The MK 108 is about 88kg lighter and 1,2m shorter than the long barreled MK 103. Both guns share the same projectile, but the MK 103 30x184 Borsig cartridge holds much more powder then the 30x90 RB MK 108 cartride, as the short barrel cannot take advanate of the additional powder. That both can use the same 30mm Mineshell also shows, that the very thin wall of that projectile was not the limiting factor for projectlie speed. For comparison, the MK 103 muzzle velocity was 860m/s compared to the 545m/s of the MK 108. This also allowed the effective use of AP Shells aggainst tanks in the MK 103. The build quality was not the problem in the MK 108, the short barrel was. But it was also supposed to shoot at slow moving bombers, and not at fighters, thus, the low muzzle velocity. It was a trade off, and the germans traded muzzle velocity and rate of fire for the maximum bang per weapon weight. If you want to look up a really cool late war german weapons project, look up the MG 213/20 or MG 213/30. That aircraft gun would have fixed almost problems of the earlier guns. High rpm (1000 rpm for the 20mm), light weight (56kg) and high muzzle velocity (at least for the 20mm version). That gun was in fact so good, that every one copied it :P Even the board cannon on the eurofighter (BK27) can trace itselt back to this gun. Have a nice evening :) Oh, and sorry for my autistic info dump, that is a subject i am really interested in.

[@skycladobserver9246]

@@13deadghosts Ho 229's sporting Mk 103s would have shredded B-17 and B-24 boxes. Then imagine them getting retrofitted with the MG 213/30s. Glad this amazing airplane never got into the fight...

[@riconui5227]

Much gets made about the.Third Reich’s various technological advancements, particularly it’s aircraft innovations. But let me relieve you of the notion that, if only they had entered service, it would have altered the outcome of the conflict. Short of the Reich developing atomic weapons, (which they weren’t), they were doomed. Not V weapons or jet technology was ever going to be sufficient to overcome the manufacturing advantages that the Allies possessed nor the shear numbers of boots on the ground that the Red Army had.. Suffice to say, that also lacked the one essential ingredient of any offensive enterprise; leadership. Goering was largely nursing his morphine delusions and preening over his stolen art; and hitler was equally deluded and in the final analysis, a corporal trying to manage the task of several field Marshalls. Their lack or resources, particularly oil, and their increasing reliance on slave labor to build their aircraft and missiles was all but a tacit admission of failure. They were doomed from Stalingrad forward.

[@scottkrafft6830]

Still insane that they were essentially 50 years ahead of even the United States. The B2, which is very similar, didn't come out until 1997. 50 years is absolutely indescribably HUGE. Very, very scary to think about what they could have done if they had the means. And this isn't even mentioning the prototype spacebomber, the Silbervogel.

[@iansneddon2956]

@@scottkrafft6830 Where do you get this 50 years nonsense. Look at the flying wing bomber the Hortons were claiming to be trying to produce. Not even a prototype. The Nazis might, with a massive expenditure of resources, managed to design and build an aircraft to match the B-29. Maybe. The Me-262 had performance characteristics that exceeded that of the Gloster Meteor, except in reliability and service requirements. An Me-262 returning from flight would need significant maintenance before it could fly again. Gloster Meteors were famous for being able to land, receive new ammunition and fuel, and take off again. The Allied technology comes off less flashy because the Allies were not throwing prototypes into production, they were throwing well engineered equipment into mass production. Because they fielded them in such numbers and they worked so reliably, the B-29 seems like a regular routine aircraft. But it was one of the most advanced aircraft in the world (perhaps the most). The development of the B-29 consumed such research and development resources that it might be considered a second Manhattan Project all its own. But where Allied technology really shines is in the Battle of the Atlantic.. You put resources into where you need technology. For the Allies, it was in countering the u-boat threat. In 1943 Germany introduced snorkels that would allow diesel engines on u-boats to be run while the submarine was submerged, in an effort to cut down on u-boat losses. Didn't matter much. Advanced aircraft mounted radar along with other technological advances (like homing torpedoes) had doomed the u-boats. Shipping losses were falling rapidly while u-boats were being lost about as fast as they could be produced (and faster than replacement crews could gain experience. If you said that Germany was even 5 years ahead of the U.S. I'd say you were exaggerating. Germany was ahead in some technologies, behind in others. There was no prototype Silbervogel. It was a proposed design but was considered too complex to be able to develop into a functional plane. Germany might have been able to build a Silbervogel if they had not been so short of resources and had found some way to drag the war out into the 1950's, and if the engineering challenges for the craft were not too difficult to overcome.

[@carlosandleon]

Much like real life, the good guys are generally doomed to fail.

[@jfangm]

@@scottkrafft6830 But they WEREN'T 50 years ahead of the U.S. They weren't even 5 years ahead. In many ways, they were a decade BEHIND the Allies.

[@edwinyoung2719]

@@iansneddon2956 you do realize the Smithsonian has one of these very planes in their aircraft collection the very first prototype was crashed on its 10th test flight two more flying example were actually built one of which is the aforementioned Smithsonian example

[@JK-tj6ie]

6:12 I know what you mean but for every German it sounds like "Luftwaffel" which means "air waffle" in german

[@majikkskates9084]

THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one hearing this

[@eklhaft4531]

I thought he said it on purpose. I am not even german :D

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

Sounds very long light and fluffy, absolutely delicious

[@JK-tj6ie]

@@Rose_Butterfly98 😂

[@norbertderiro9458]

Oh, what a shame, I don't have a waffle licence....

[@captain_commenter8796]

YB-49: I am the first jet flying wing! Horton Ho 229: *“am I a joke to you?”* Almost everyone: *y e s*

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

"Yes. Yes you are".

[@deadly_0125]

its the YB-35 & flew in 1941 , the YB-39 is a variant u idiot , check Northrop N9M

[@captain_commenter8796]

@@deadly_0125 jeez dude it’s a joke, stop getting mad

[@santiagoperez2094]

@@deadly_0125 horten brother prototypes where in the air though all the 30s.

[@santiagoperez2094]

@Brian Roome that joke almost defeated 7 world powers, provided the technology for all the cold war, the moon landing, transonic flight, fuel refinement, international mass transport, nuclear reactors + bombs and intercontinental flight.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

I think that the narrator woefully underestimated Jack Northrop and actually gravely insulted hum. History is filled with inventors developing the same idea at about the same time who were unaware of each other's work, Both Horten and Northrop were great designers but Northrop did not obtain the Horten design data until after Germany's defeat

[@FoundAndExplained]

Again, i KNOW i'm going to be roasted for my german names in this one. I'm so sorry! Please forgive my inbox!

[@eduardo-bx4hw]

Yeas

[@joshdill27]

It’s ok

[@francis8197]

luft waffle

[@windi3798]

"goethe wagenfabrik" is the original name of the plane construction site ^^ sometimes they give you horrible wrong written name of some places :D

[@MrShrog]

I m German. You do it fine

[@px1_]

Really cool vid man, the 3d renders are getting better and better each day! Would be cool to see the 229s bigger brother. The ho xviii

[@njcummins]

Wait till the end of the video

[@jesseservin4012]

Ah yes the Amerika Bomber.

[@halogeek6]

So the 229.

[@px1_]

@@halogeek6 nah, it was hortens entry into the "amerkia bomber" project, competing with messerchmidts me264 and foke wulfs modified-fw200, it resembled a 229 but significantly larger

[@halogeek6]

@@px1_ yeah I just got done reading up on it. Not afraid to admit when I was wrong.

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

In San Diego California you can see the Horten 229 model that was created for the History show that was about its supposed stealth characteristics. It's a impressive model that shows how large the fighter/bomber was. Kinda also gives a idea how it would look like in the air as well.

[@bredsheeran2897]

6:14 the “luftwaffle”

[@FunBotan]

The way you pronounce "Junkers" makes it feel like that company specialized in dumpster diving and building cutting-edge tech out of scrap metal

[@saalkz.a.9715]

And what about the "Looft Waffle"... 😂

[@generalripper7528]

Proud to say that they were developed by the two Horten brothers (from my hometown) and test flown on the Hangelar airfield, one of the oldest airfields in the world, which is just down the road from where I live and where the GSG-9 (Germany's anti-terror unit) is also headquartered.

[@mach1553]

Cool! 👍

[@Cat-y4w]

That intro was sick! 😀👍

[@captain_commenter8796]

Nice WW2 video! Horton Ho 229 is an AWESOME choice. The animations are getting more and more realistic!

[@Pgb633]

It's called Horten not Horto

[@captain_commenter8796]

@@Pgb633 my bad

[@blu5021]

I was lucky enough to see a hull of the Ho-229 and other german flying wings in Washington, D.C. It was so amazing! Edit: It is in the Smithsonian museum! They also have the Enola Gay, the DO-335, and a komet.

[@WaukWarrior360]

Did they display the Northrop N-1M (the first flying wing, not the Ho. 229) or any other advanced American aircraft besides a B-29?

[@blu5021]

@@WaukWarrior360 yeah, there was some F-14 and late cold war jets, and a gyrocopter? (Plane with helicopter rotor) a flying platform, and I think the N-1- I might have a picture

[@tobiasfreitag2182]

@@WaukWarrior360 neighter of the two is the first flying wing. The hortense build there first true flying wing, the horten h-1 in 1934. Turing the röhn glider competition of that year that plane completed a flight lasting 7 hours. And even that plane most likely can not claim to be the first flying wing, depending on your definition of a flying wing

[@tufflucal4037]

@@blu5021 The H-229, was impressively thought out design in the 40s. But it is far from being called the Nazis secret weapon. This wing aircraft now plays a role of a cover up of something more cunning.

[@XxFTKxX]

Is no one gonna talk about the Captain America reference 🤣? "Failed due to its massive Vibranium..." Cuts out 🤣

[@marc_frank]

bell shaped lift distribution

[@2ndamendment176]

I just wanna say your team's animation skills are always on point, please tell them that they are appreciated. Some channels make cheesy 2d animations but yall are good

[@FoundAndExplained]

considering its just me... thank you! I do it all myself

[@allmight1612]

I was thinking of saving this video on my liked playlist so I could guarantee something nice to watch while eating dinner, but screw it lol I can’t resist watching a Found And Explained video right away.

[@ijulesy]

lol, i'm the same but managed to resist and enjoyed watching it with my lunch :)

[@welcome3933]

Ho 229 Flying Wing is only one of so many innovation from Germany during ww-2. The flying wing is a breakthrough in aerodynamic. Other innovation is Messerschmitt Me-262 the world first operational jet fighter, V-1 Flying bomb and V-2 ballistic missile.

[@jensheronemus2357]

The earliest example of a functional flying wing that I can think of are the ones designed by John W. Dunne, the D.5 through D.7 series especially, which was back in 1910 in England.

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first true flying wing.

[@owenshebbeare2999]

@@WaukWarrior360 Yet evidence d8sputes this. I know Americans always want to be first, but the facts say otherwise.

[@WaukWarrior360]

@@owenshebbeare2999 Except it's an objective fact that the N-1M was the first true flying wing. No Fueslage, no tail and was under its own power.

[@WaukWarrior360]

@@owenshebbeare2999 You're faulty presupposition is predicated on the misnotion that you have any credible evidence to dispute what I've said and the mistaken belief that I'm an American.

[@WaukWarrior360]

@@owenshebbeare2999 My refutation of the falsehood is motivated by the fact that Germans and those synthetic to the Nazi cause always want to pretend Germany was more technologically advanced than is evidenced

[@2down4up]

They have one of these in the Udvar Hazy air and space museum in northern Virginia. It is a genuinely amazing piece to look at. Both for how it looks and it’s size. It literally looks like a toy in size compared to all the conventional WW2 planes. However it also looks positively otherworldly compared to the conventional aircraft. Truly amazing.

[@kloetzchenbauer1798]

As a German, i can say that your pronounciation was actually pretty good

[@greatgrumble]

Makes me think you are not German at all. The pronunciation is atrocious.

[@marw9541]

A thing to note, people have checked the Horten's radar signature and found it wasn't THAT different from normal aircraft at the time

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

It was reduced by about 20%, which isn't negligeable.

[@marw9541]

@@user-xu2pi6vx7o Okay, then what I mean is they used old radar technology and say no noticeable difference in rate of detection

[@Darthmaeror]

Actually your wrong. Northrop did a radar test on the aircraft and found that if a horton was flying close to the surface, combined with its speed and reduced detection, allied aircraft at Britain would have only roughly 2 and a half minutes to respond which wouldn't have been enough time. Flying close to the surface was a strategy employed by the German airforce.

[@ahsmeg4069]

"Luftwaffle" Ok we're done.

[@SoloRenegade]

Vne is a structural limitation, has noting to do with the ability to cruise at 1000kph. The Horten did not use the bell shape lift distribution Al Bowers talked about. The Bell shape was primarily the innovation of Prandtl, not the Hortens.

[@TheKobiDror]

Gothaer Waggonfabrik: you were very close!!! Congratz!

[@TCSC47]

At 7:45 you state that the high aspect ration of the Horton's wing contributes to its stability against stalling. Not so. The major design feature which does this is the sweep back of the wings which gives a horizontal control moment. In addition washing out at the wing tips causes the inboard wing to stall whilst the wing tips are still not stalled and so can continue controlling the aircraft. Also the the centre of the wing will fall causing the plane to descend, picking up speed, and emerge from the stall. A high aspect ratio wing is indeed more efficient than a low aspect ratio, but aerodynamic effects are not the be all and end all of aircraft design. A high aspect ratio wing is inherently less structurally rigid than a low aspect ration and will need to be built with more structure to make it rigid enough. It is important to remember that a flying wing design could not be made practical until the advent of computerised control systems which could not only deal with aerodynamic control inefficiencies, but also with structural flexibility.

[@kaipien9398]

Can we get an episode on the BV-141? That was a very strange asymmetric plane

[@donovandelaney3171]

And she is a beautiful airplane! Bring her back!!😭

[@Tusk926]

Where did the model of the amerika bomber at 12:05 come from??? Who makes this model???

[@gundam5281]

The HO-8 winged bomber is another fascinating aircraft intended to be an 'Amerika bomber'. It's essentially an upscaled horten -229 designed to carry a nuclear payload.

[@michaeldunne338]

Doubt it was designed to carry a nuclear payload since Germany was nowhere near developing a nuclear weapon, let alone figure out delivery.

[@flyingwombat59]

A woman I knew, now deceased, was involved in the project to build the flight simulator for the B-2

[@peterboy209]

Maybe there will be a flying replica of this beauty one day.

[@faragar1791]

Is the Ho 229 still in the Mesonian museum storage, or does it have its own exhibit yet? Edit: I commented this before I saw the end of the video.

[@blu5021]

It is visible, visited a while ago- however, it is just a hull

[@faragar1791]

@@blu5021 I'm pretty sure that they also have the wings, but they may not have wanted to reattach them considering how old the aircraft is.

[@santiagoperez2094]

@@faragar1791 the wings where burned, the only reason they know how it was shaped its because blueprints where captured for the v1 variant.

[@blu5021]

@@faragar1791 good point!

[@alexander1485]

I saw it in 2018, the wings were with it but not put on

[@that_dude1638]

Fun Fact my Dad is From Friedrichroda near Gotha and He even Showed me where The Building was..

[@Russ1133]

That ain't a ufo, THAT'S THE WWII B2 SPIRIT

[@usquanigo]

Not all tail-less aircraft are flying wings. Anything without a tail is a Nurflugel, it can have a vertical stabilizer. The Me-163 is a prime example of this. Technically, delta wing aircraft as well and there are loads of them in the sky today.

[@dorsk84]

Is there any chance you could do a video (or series of vids) on what is call Luft' 46? It's very much inline with this and your other types of video's.

[@mopar_dude9227]

Title is wrong, the Northrop N-1M was the first powered flying wing. It flew in 1940, 4 years before the Ho229 did. Also, the Ho229 was only a concept/prototype, it never reached production. There was only 3 flights of the prototype before it crashed, and no other prototype was fully assembled, let alone flown after that. And the final version had many changes made to it, mostly in size, that may or may not have worked out. And there is no proof that the final production model would be capable of any of the projected speeds, payload, or range.

[@FoundAndExplained]

ive changed it

[@JFrazer4303]

Stout flew in 1918, Dunne in 1916. Both had fins, but only purists say an all-wing or the media hype term "flying wing" must not have fins. Burnelli was called a "flying wing", as was Arup/Hoffman which had fins, flew exceptionally well. Not a single finless type has made a serviceable plane (that includes the B-2

[@JFrazer4303]

Also we should note that the intended role, was ground attack. Carrying 1000kg payload at 1000kph, with 1000km range there, and back empty. Called 1000³. the aerodynamics of all-wing made it easier, as we see in the Arado 555 series of bombers and the big Ho-18 bomber and the huge Ho-8 transport. We can easily see the Ho-9 in a Zerstörer or bomber-destroyer role.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

The fact that the Horten brothers were capable of envisioning such a design in the era of early jet engines, was just proof that they were visionaries. Like, damn...

[@santiagoperez2094]

they made they first flying wing glider in the late 20s

[@fritzfieldwrangle-clouder7299]

Not really, flying wing designs go back to 1910 at least. There were French ones, Russian ones, British ones and American ones and probably a few more.

[@KwaggaJac]

Henschel Hs 130 might also be an good plane to feature in the future - Highest flying plane in WW2

[@norbertolagrava4734]

Actually the concept that a flying wing can be invisible to radar was discovered by accident during the testing of bomber prototypes. Northrop XB35/ XB49 These planes disappeared from radar at times. For the same reason, Horten, had it been operational, would have been difficult to detect by radar in 1946.

[@generalsirc2615]

I was lucky enough to see this the Horton 229 in person. It’s very cool.

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@generalsirc2615]

@@WaukWarrior360 yeah I remember seeing that although I don’t know what it looks like

[@thechlebek901]

@@WaukWarrior360 that was irrelevant

[@johnf.kennedy]

jeez... imagine being in that plane 0:04 and see this 0:08 flying past you at immense speeds. Scary

[@naomy1701]

i love that u call it Luftwaffle >_< it sounds to awesome * ^^ * but honestly, the Ho-229 was pretty damn impressive for its time, had they had it earlier and had time to work out some of its kinks, it had prob made a major difference in the war... thank god they didnt

[@sonni.walkman]

yes, the horten ho, finnally, actually if u look into it, usa has a plane called the Northrop YB-49 the resembelence to horten ho is uncanny. edit- lmao he mentioned it, goodjob

[@tobias5827]

the intro to this video is freaking amazing, love seeing how your renders have advanced. Fun fact, did you know the stealth aspects of the Ho 229 were actually accidental?

[@WaukWarrior360]

Did you know the Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing?

[@captainboose8788]

The HO was not a stealth aircraft

[@DragonstarFighter]

If you look up the Kenneth Arnold UFO siting, you will realize that the US experimented with directly upgraded, all aluminum copies of the HO-229 and may have even installed our more powerful Lockheed L-133 engines in it, Kenneth Arnold estimated them to be flying almost 1200MPH/2000KPH

[@peterson7082]

You're really confused.

[@sphinxrising1129]

Such an aircraft never existed, as what the allies found was a wooden mockup with no jet engines.

[@JFrazer4303]

2 flew, a bit. One crashed due to engine fire, other was damaged, under reconstruction along with parts of a third.

[@sphinxrising1129]

@@JFrazer4303 Wron, it never progressed past a glider/mockup.

[@LastGoatKnight]

My god, I love this plane

[@Schlipperschlopper]

There is anthor Horten Gotha Flying wing called P60C redesigned by Dr. Huehnerjager you can watch it at Rechlin Germany. Dr. Huhnerjaeger enhanced the horten wing to an easier to produce and easier field maintenance. The Dr. Huehnerjager P60C design used the engines in a vertical mounting under and above the wing fuselage.

[@sonatine3266]

Germanys technology / engineering always have been the best.

[@peterson7082]

Lol nah

[@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke]

Germany has always been a leader in aerospace technology and is currently the largest manufacturer of jet aircraft in Europe.

[@hanzkammler6388]

the luftwaffle ? I spat my schnapps.

[@jaspervlogt3843]

Did you jsut say Luftwaffel? Air waffle? hahahahaIts Luft waffe like air weapon

[@asyik6]

A radical but beautiful fighter aircraft design, one of my favourite.

[@StevePlegge]

In aviation, a stall is something that happens to an airfoil (usually a wing), NOT an engine. When the angle of attack exceeds a critical value, the airflow will detach from the top surface of the wing and lift disappears. This is generally considered a Bad Thing, and is to be avoided.

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

You can get compressor stalls in engines. The compressor and stator blades are airfoils and airflow can detach, resulting in a stall. That's why in older engines certain maneuvers or aggressive throttle movements could cause engines to stall. Nowadays the stator blades can move in angle of attack to prevent stall.

[@JFrazer4303]

@@WaukWarrior360 not true, by a wide margin. Dunne, 1916, Stout, 1918. Lippisch 1929, Cheranovsky 1926. Northrop 216 "Avion" was 1928, far far better than his later all-wing minus tail, was called a "flying wing" which is a media hype term.

[@JFrazer4303]

Yeah, that was cringe-worthy, seeing how little the writers understood.

[@StevePlegge]

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD That's why I said "airfoil (usually a wing)".

[@PilotFlo]

Good vid. Apart from the "Luftwaffle" the pronounciation was fine. Now I want some waffles...

[@llama_wehraboo7274]

Mornin' lads

[@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent]

What we really need is for someone to get the funding to make a working flying version of the Horten Ho 229. Have someone make a recreation that resembles the original (of course use modern tech) See how it flies and performs. Then try to produce it for the civilian market.

[@Irobert1115HD]

did you know: the horten HOIX was the result of the three 1000 project: 1000 kph top speed, 1000 km range and 1000 killos of payload. this is a fighter bomber.

[@kristoffermangila]

Northrop Grumman built a full-scale model of the Ho 229 and tested it on its radar test facility. The result of the test - it can sneak in through the British radar system during WW2.

[@peterson7082]

Meh

[@santablyat180]

Meanwhile warthunder : pilot knockout Meanwhile in ace combat : first time right?

[@tobyc4957]

It would be cool to just see these old weapons on your channel in a big battle. Like this jet fight American bomber and fighters

[@ralfhtg1056]

Well, your try to pronounce Gothaer Waggonfabrik was not as bad as it could have been and surely not as bad as you thought. Only it is Horten, not Horton. And in Germany nobody says H-O, we say Ho, just like we do not say M-E for Messerschmidt, we say ME, speak "MEH".

[@WaukWarrior360]

Jack Northrop was building flying wings before the Horten Brothers. The Northrop N-1M was the first True flying wing

[@user-hr1uw4cj2z]

@@WaukWarrior360 What did that have to do anything with his comment and why do you keep saying this to every comment?

[@hikingandstuff625]

Being that the war was so long ago and now having a good relationship with Germany, I'm surprised that unique plane hasn't been given back to them. Seems to be more of their history than ours. I say give it back...

[@WilhelmKarsten]

The planes was instrumental in the development of 1st generation American stealth aircraft..

[@Hypersonicbiker]

She went world's first stealth plane if she can fly

[@ktwei]

Time for some Luf Waffle!!

[@goodroach9984]

There also something to note as well, the germans were not aware of it's stealth capabilities, they just liked how well it worked as a bomber / fighter.

[@goawayihavecommentstomake1488]

Yes, the potential radar stealth was coincidental to the construction techniques, which included laminated wood and an unusual glue (maybe it had charcoal which might absorb radar??).

[@Porsche1969]

Shut up, your claim is stupid and wrong, dude!

[@dennisgreiwe2078]

"The HO 229 was hardly packing, being only able to carry two 30 millimeter cannons" Hmm... The ability to shoot golf ball sized, flaming, chunks of metal around 200 or so times per minute is what I would call packing serious heat.... What more do you need to take down a bomber? Jesus... What did you expect a fighter aircraft to have?? Quad 88 mm artillery mounted in the nose? Holy cow... I'd love to hear this guys idea of a heavily armed aircraft. Seriously dude... I was going to subscribe... I could handle you calling the german air force the "Luftwaffle"... But, declaring two 30 mm cannon light armament? All you've done piss me off. Tell you what... Have someone that owns a 30 mm cannon shoot your car's engine and lets see if you still think 30 mm cannons are child's play.

[@greatesteverog]

My guy it ain’t that serious 😂

[@dennisgreiwe2078]

@@greatesteverog So,,,, you're against audience members informing content creators why they aren't getting a subscriber. You're for misinformation. And you're against objective knowledge .. Cool. Now shut you're trap.

[@greatesteverog]

@@dennisgreiwe2078 never said I was for misinformation 😂😂😂 I just find it funny you’re getting so worked up over this 😂😂😂

[@dennisgreiwe2078]

@@greatesteverog So sit in your corner and giggle then I don't care what you do. Otherwise, If I say/said anything inaccurate, we'll discuss it. Or, if facts are too boring for you, and you'd rather talk about how things make you feel. Let me just say, I dont want to further discuss your feelings. We clear?

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

Modern, Filipino twist here: -engines replaced by general electric j85 (afterburning) turbojets -guns replaced with a pair of m39 20mm revolver cannons (BECAUSE the 30mm guns are no longer in use for a very long time; to make up for lethality, high rate of fire will do). Or the Mauser BK-27 27mm revolver cannon (used in planes like j-39 gripen, sepecat Jaguar, of the retired Panavia tornado) -AESA radar small enough to be stuffed in the nose (maybe even enlarge the nose a bit to fit) -IRST all around the plane (top and bottom of "tail" section, one on each wingtips, one behind the canopy, one under ventral section at the center of aircraft, and one over the nose just in front of canopy; a la f-8 crusader's). Except the one under the nose, that's for FLIR. -HOTAS either in side stick layout like f-16's, or conventional center column layout. -either fly-by-wire or fiber-optic controls (should the budget allow, and with insulation against emp) to lighten up the plane. Control linkages will be electro-mechanical (also with shielding against emp) -of course with MFDs to keep the costs down as possible. Or, -helmet mounted display with sensor fusion a la f-35 -3d-printed parts to further lighten up the plane. -metal foam for structural parts (again further lightening the plane but keeping airframe integrity) -composite inner skin (maybe carbon fiber WITH fiberglass or GRP because, correct me if I'm wrong, radio waves can't penetrate those materials well. Essentially radars will be interrupted by said materials) -new landing gear (for the sake of reducing the weight of the freaking awesome plane, BECAUSE the OG one seems bulky AND heavy...) -outer skin all around the plane (including engine housing, exhaust shrouds & intakes) composed of hexagonal panels and there are two types: *for optical "invisibility", it'll be screens. Each six *corners* have cameras to project live feed to the opposite side of the plane. Like James bond's Aston Martin in die another day, but in my take, it has "yehudi lights" integrated on each six *sides* for counter-illumination (light intensity depends on outside light. If surroundings are bright, lights go bright. If dim, lights go dim) *For thermal invisibility, it'll be panels that changes its temperature 🌡️ depending on what temperature the surrounding environment is. -also boosted flight controls with redundant backup systems so if one or more control surface gets damaged, flight computer compensates to maintain flight control authority. -as for missiles? Externally, couple of sidewinders slung under hardpoints under each wing. Internally, four or more 70mm guided rockets (essentially air-to-air version of the advanced precision kill weapon system [APKW]) in each wing. -radar/laser jammers and chaffs and flares to thwart target lock by enemy aircraft; AND defeat incoming SAMs or AAMs, respectively

[@typie34]

13:55 small mistake, the sound is cut off. other than that, amazing video as usual. I am very interested in channels like yours, such as mustard or Curious Droid, but none of them come close to your quality, and the fact you are covering all of these amazing machines in good detail, aswell as the historical facts around them

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@goawayihavecommentstomake1488]

The intro movie is probably flawed: the 229 had 30mm cannons and would destroy the bomber on the first pass. It wouldn’t turn so tightly either, as the huge wing bled speed and you would only get it back quickly by diving. A pilot would conserve his momentum- its his defence. Also, the wood construction made tight turns at speed risky.

[@michaeldunne338]

When were the 30mm cannons installed in a Ho 229 capable of powered flight? Considering one plane did only 3 or 4 powered test flights before crashing?

[@mach1553]

Wood plies would be stronger and would sustain a hit better than metal.

[@saborise7485]

''It had twin machine guns'' You mean the 30mm MK-103 C A N N O N S?

[@Hamsteren91]

Like with all other wunderwaffen it wouldn't have made any difference, wunderwaffen only works if you already have the upper hand.

[@brightertag4148]

Very nice video the ho 229 its one of my favorite aircraft designs and i hope you can tell the story about his bigger brother the ho 18 and like dusty miller say i hope the L-133 come in a near future but that will be your decision thank your for doing this type of content

[@MrShrog]

Imagine u make this VTOL

[@santiagoperez2094]

it can take off at like 140kph, unneded

[@johnc.bojemski1757]

The ME-262 jet WAS deployed with TREMENDOUS shock to action but the ALLIED bomber machine gunners quickly learned to adjust their aim and shoot well ahead of its anticipated flight path. Apparently the tactic worked MOST of the time.

[@thomascooley2749]

The best part of the horton brothers is how they scammed the nazis outa the money to build there planes They kept making up new special forces units then when they got caught they would move and change the number of there special unit lol

[@saltyroe3179]

I suspect that Horton Brothers was a complete scam like many other NAZI companies that were funded because of political ideals and not ability

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@thomascooley2749]

@@WaukWarrior360 yeah and the n9m was first for clamshell controls with no vertical surfaces Yb 49 same wing span as the b2 jack northrop was allways on top and at the for front of flying wings

[@thomascooley2749]

@@saltyroe3179 u might like this goes over the history of the brothers and the wing and how they pulled it off kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYClZWifaqenh7M

[@nebunezz_r]

@@saltyroe3179 idk mate, Messerschmitt and Junkers looks able enough to me.

[@excitedbox5705]

Why do people always say luft WAFFLE? There is no L it is WAFFE as in WEAPON.

[@user-hr1uw4cj2z]

Mostly as a Joke idiot

[@JFrazer4303]

@@user-hr1uw4cj2z A stupid American joke, maybe.

[@battleshipiowa2052]

The A-57 and CL-1201 are my fav never built planes

[@matthewmunro8676]

very nice

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@nebunezz_r]

@@WaukWarrior360 holy shit stop

[@WaukWarrior360]

@@nebunezz_r nah

[@kre4ture218]

Oh boy I‘m looking forward to flying in the Luftwaffle next year

[@davidsterry786]

Nice photo of the British Handley Page Manx at 12:45.

[@rose415]

Northrop N-1M flying wing first flew July 3 1940. Still a great video.

[@JFrazer4303]

Northrop "Avion" 216 was far better, 1928 Many all-wing, some with tails had flown.

[@Procrastinater]

A little engine fire isn't what those MK 108's would do to that bomber.

[@JFrazer4303]

It was the Horten 9, given to Gotha for production, and they called it the Go-229. Junkers patented it in 1910, Stout put it into flight (with a fin) in 1918. Cheranovsky put it into flight (again with a fin) in 1926. Being completely tail-less isn't the criteria, since many finned allowing types have flown, some of them well, a few notably better that "normal" planes. They called Northrop's "Avion" h216x a flying wing even though it had a tail, because it left off a fuselage and put everything in a lifting fuselage body. They called Burnelli a "flying wing" too. The Go-229 wasn't "stealth". Its engines and cockpit would have shown a strong return. It takes far more than smooth aerodynamic surfaces and lack of a tail to make it stealthy, and the Germans were not concerned with making it harder to detect. Not everything made as a lifting body fuselage is for stealth. It's tabloid quality media hype to say that stealth is why they're designed that way. Many all-wing plus a fin have flown, not a single one without a fin has made a workable plane. I include hang gliders, sport gliders and the B-2 in that. It's not a workable plane if it can't fly without advanced controls and the crew must always be ready to eject if any of that advanced control technology fails.

[@mach1553]

Go-229 was a mistaken ID, the Ho-229 is the correct nomenclature. The engines and cockpit would show a return but the infancy of radar in the 40's would not have been enough to reap the benefits of early detection and thwart this design's low radar signature.

[@einautofan6685]

Go-229 was the given production number for the Gothaer Waggonfabrik by the RLM!

[@geethsan1567]

I love aviation videos with animations. F&E and Mustard are my go to channels.

[@1963Austria]

What was the German version of the b2 bomber? Image result for horten The Horten H. IX, RLM designation Ho 229 (or Gotha Go 229 for extensive re-design work done by Gotha to prepare the aircraft for mass production) was a German prototype fighter/bomber initially designed by Reimar and Walter Horten to be built by Gothaer Waggonfabrik.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+@1963 The B2 is three times larger than the prototype 229 and exactly the same size as the YB-35/YB-49 that was designed by Northrop before the Horten brothers started on their design. The B-2 is the redesign of the YB-35 program.

[@WilhelmKarsten]

​​@@FiveCentsPlease What's your point? Your comment is completely irrelevant.

[@jeffreyhagelin3672]

"Luftwaffle ?". What is it about the British that gives them such a terrible sense of humor ?

[@MisteriosGloriosos922]

*Love this video !!!That looks like it would fit into Ace Combat if you replaced the cockpit with a drone control system*

[@SRDPS2]

1 yrs later, some War Thunder players called this thing *"Dorito"*

[@benkerby4827]

Anyone else hearing "Luftwaffle"? 😁

[@michalciesielski4707]

The Messerschmidt 262 was also meant to change the course of the war but guess what? it didn't

[@sim.frischh9781]

For an english speaker, you got that pretty decendly. But the I-X is a roman 9. And for you as an english speaker, the german ö is easy to speak: it´s the same as the u in turn, hurt and urge. Mean is "Junkers" as it reads like "junker" to english speaker, think of it as "Yoonkers", that might help.

[@WaukWarrior360]

The Northrop N-1M was the first flying wing.

[@darthsidious1004]

I love the way you pronounce Luftwaffe 😂