This jet almost destroyed the F-22 - MiG MFI / 1.44

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[@jctripplesticks]

There's been a lot of discussion that the plane couldn't possibly have been "stealth" because of the rounded and protruding surfaces (deflection) and Russia's lack of radar absorbent material similar to the US's (absorption). Some believe the one that was built was done as a MiG 29 replacement with the plan to make it Raptor-like eventually, but it just wasn't going to be that much stealthier than an Su-27.

[@brentbartley6838]

This seems like this, if fielded, would have been most like a less stealthy J-20. Mainly a long range missle truck. Run out, fire off all of it's many missles at whatever it could target then turn tail and run home.

[@SurvivorTeam13]

“U.S. Stealth Programs and Technology: Soviet Exploitations of the Western Press.”

[@heatblast876]

One of thing is that the Mig 1.44/MFI it doesn't look like an stealth plane, but it has a role more like an low observable means in radar it will detect but still it will take a huge time to detect leaving a small dot on a radar, I mean it will take huge difficult time to lock on radar. Mostly the RCS will be around 0.5m2 more like an European fighter typhoon/rafale. But still people really don't know the real RCS or maybe stealth capabilities of Mig 1.44/MFI it might be stealth, but not as stealthly as the F22, RCS (0.0001m2), F35 RCS (0.005m2), first serial model SU57 RCS (0.01m2~0.05m2) don't compare with test aircraft model T50 (0.1m2) as know as the prototype model of SU57, J20 RCS (0.08m2~0.025m2) compare to Mig 1.44. If the Mig 1.44/MFI was really wanted to make a stealth it does have RAM coating on it, but it looks more like an low observable aircraft, if they would want to make a perfect stealth plane with some changes such as stealth features and capabilities giving it a perfect stealth plane, then it would have been a great plane but rather it was an demonstrated technology/low observable more like a prototype model with the slightly improved version of this aircraft.

[@jakobholgersson4400]

@@heatblast876 By those standards, the Gripen too is a stealth fighter.

[@heatblast876]

@@jakobholgersson4400 First of all the JAS 39E version is a 4++ gen or 4.5 gen aircraft it has the same RCS 0.1m2 like the European fighter typhoon/Rafale or a F/A 18E still it is not as stealthly as the stealth aircraft that I have written on the first comment. But when you try to compare JAS 39 between Rafale and European fighter typhoon. Those are totally different categories. Rafale, European fighter typhoon and JAS 39E carries MBDA meteor BVR/IRST WVR the same weapons but with different radar, range, EW suite, some different weapons on bored and bombs on rafale/European fighter typhoon/JAS 39 that make a totally different level of all aircraft and engines performance. So they may look the same when you compare with JAS 39E to rafale/European fighter typhoon. They have carnads and same wing angle but when you look carefully they have totally different features such as intake, twin engine, length, height, radar, EW suite, weapons, different avionics and role/performance of the aircraft. So they might look the same at the diagram, but they are not look the same as you think. If you look closely there are totally different aircraft compare to the other aircrafts such as JAS 39E, Rafale and Euro fighter typhoon. So they might look the same, but they are totally different aircraft.

[@Neilarmeweak550]

The production value of this video is miles better than the ones you’ve posted previously

[@FoundAndExplained]

Even the ghost train one? Yes we have brought on two new people to help make the videos. I’ve taken a step back so I can focus on more script writing and less blender animations

[@fedetube3605]

Good for you man, love your videos

[@aussiefan354]

@@FoundAndExplained Your videos are alway interesting mate. Good production on all of them. Good to see an Aussie out there putting out quality videos like this. ✈

[@dat581]

It's still completely full of shit though.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

@@FoundAndExplained Impressive growth.

[@AaronShenghao]

I think no doubt the Chinese took inspiration from MiG 1.44 when designing their J-20, at least in the initial design phase. Even though MiG themselves said they never shard any details with the Chinese. Perhaps they saw pictures of the MiG 1.44 and thought "we can try that layout too, since we do have experience with canards on J-17"

[@AaronShenghao]

For a bit context, J-17 is a true clean sheet design from the Chinese and exported to Pakistan. Before that, planes are based on license produced designs (J-10, arguably J-15 even though Chinese never bought Su-33, they modified it themselves) Or in J-8's case, partially reverse engineered design

[@christse3467]

Funny enough, at one point China did studied Super-10 "twin J-10" and 1.44 layout, which the infamous J-14 CG was based on.

[@MarvinChenFantasy]

Jet designers would certainly learn from other jet designers. China is just not an exception. There's a paper of J20 designer explaining thoughts about next gen jets, it's not like that Chinese would build a jet similar to other jet, no serious countries would spend money like that.

[@xyz-iz2kf]

@@AaronShenghao j17? that's jf17 another light aircraft without canards

[@WSOJ3]

No. Search J-9 VI-2. China came up with J-20’s layout during the MiG25 era, way before MiG1.44. The original J-9 VI-2 was based on J-8’s long body, enhanced with advanced aerodynamics to make it maneuverable. This was shelved as J-9 project eventually evolved into J-10. But the VI-2 variant design lived on and eventually became the J-20 some 30 years later.

[@giftsonnabayano1973]

damn this is mustard level of production quality combined with found and explained quantity. absolute fire

[@sangeeta7744]

I would not call it mustard level the quality is good but the atmosphere and smooth animation of mustard is 100 times better but as this channel makes so many vids so fast it is understandable

[@beayn]

What does mustard level even mean

[@sixty9inety]

@@beayn there’s a channel called “mustard” that uploads like once a month that has a ridiculously smooth and high quality editing style

[@beayn]

@@sixty9inety I just searched it and... I'm subscribed apparently! lol I obviously liked his content and subbed but forgot the name.

[@thefreemonk6938]

Include Yarnhub too

[@nonpartisangunowner4524]

Now, I know what inspired the Chinese Mig from C&C Generals. “Tactical fighter, reporting!”

[@Hawkmeister_]

"OVERLORD is HERE!"

[@cdgncgn]

it is exact plane form, not an inspiration.

[@Joshua_N-A]

RIP Westwood Studio. Wish C&C: Generals 2 could be made but I might be happy that it never happen.

[@duongnhdn]

The Nuke Mig of general Tao was a stuff of nightmare to every land units based general.

[@zoopdterdoobdter5743]

I can draw all kinds of fantastic _"Raptor Killers"_ on a napkin...

[@brotatochimp]

I've seen a T-Rex do it in a movie once.

[@lenadams854]

Mbb lampyridae

[@BoisegangGaming]

Anyone remember the WoWkiller phase?

[@theussmirage]

The lowered IR signature of the Cessna C150 makes it an ideal Raptor Killer, once weapons are mounted the F-22 won't stand a chance!

[@thomaszhang3101]

The thing is MiG 1.44 actually came close to being one

[@kauan8754]

The animations are getting better and better, amazing job 👍🏻

[@MrRaab-hu9rs]

How did the 1.44 almost destroy the F-22? The YF-22 project was flying 9 years before the 1.44. By the time the 1.44 left the ground, it was already obsolete.

[@sixty9inety]

Clickbait. It’s like when people say the YF-23 is the one fighter that can beat the F22. It isn’t. That’s why the F22 was chosen.

[@user-qn3xu5ee3t]

"The YF-22 project was flying 9 years before the 1.44" Guess why it took that long for 1.44 to fly when it was supposed to make its maiden flight in early 90s

[@QuenzaDuvalier509]

@@sixty9inety actually the x-35 program is based on the yf-22 so the f-35 is based on Russian technology

[@arksy8703]

@@QuenzaDuvalier509 bro your retardation is showing, the YF-22 is american.

[@joelbilly1355]

​@@sixty9inety the YF23 could beat the F22 but didn't.

[@pyronuke4768]

A commonly misquoted detail: Project 1.44 (NATO codename Flatpack) was the technology demonstrator. MFI was Project 1.42 (Foxglove). Though the two are very similar, they are not actually the same plane. Think of it like the difference between the JSF X-35 and the F-35B; both have STOVL, but one is the finished product.

[@zhirowey4942]

"Tactical fighter reporting"

[@revolverswitch]

"We defend China's airspace"

[@Nafeels]

The "sawtooth" on the leading edge of the canards wasn't just a foreign concept to Russian design bureau! In fact, the Il-62 had the similar sawtooth edges on its wings to break up the formation of vortices during a high angle of attack orientation and reduces chances of stalling; something that a tail-heavy plane like the Il-62 really needed without major redesigns of control surfaces. Had the 1.44 went into production, a lot of flight assist computers would be installed into it just so it can fly without crashing. It was unstable by design to help with supermanuevrability in combat, something even the 5th gen Russian fighters are good at. Also, in a twist of fate it would look extremely close to the fictional "MiG-31" fighter in Clint Eastwood's Firefox down to its backward-firing missiles, an instance where life imitates art imitates life.

[@feralhistorian]

I first read about this aircraft way back in Air Force magazine's Soviet Aerospace Almanac 1985 (90% sure it was '85) though they called it the "MiG 2000" then. The illustrations at the time are remarkably close to what the actual aircraft looks like.

[@poodlescone9700]

The Mig 1.44 was reborn as the Chinese J20.

[@phil4405]

I was going to mention this!

[@AaronShenghao]

According to MiG themselves, nope. They didn't share any data on it. Perhaps the Chinese saw the pictures and thought, hey we can try do something like that. The last time China had any dealing with MiG was they wanted to license produce MiG-21. But the blueprints sent my MiG didn't match the initial knockdown kits from MiG. Chinese intercepted MiGs destined for the Vietnam War to study them... Needless to say the Chinese aren't happy with MiG after that. (J-8 was based on MiG-21, and if you take a look they only have jets bought from Sukhoi after that. They never bought MiG 23,25,29 or 31)

[@byhyew]

Yes and no. There surely have been inspirations taken, but China had already published a similar twin engine canard design in the 1970s, which was more similar to the J20.

[@poodlescone9700]

@@AaronShenghao There were reports out of Russia that China paid $500m to Mikoyan for their expertise on the development of the J20 as consultants.

[@cdgncgn]

@@poodlescone9700 reports and their verification ... unlikely. It was an unfinished plane.

[@jnorth6022]

Enjoyed this vid tremendously. This is one of more obscure pages in the Russian aviation development that I really wanted to learn more about. THANK YOU!

[@jimsvideos7201]

The aircraft alone is only the tip of the iceberg though, you need everything else to support them.

[@alexdarcydestsimon3767]

You have a point here.

[@BoisegangGaming]

As we've seen with Russian advanced technology in the Ukranian war, your fancy tanks are worthless if you don't have the meat to back up the metal.

[@legiran9564]

@@BoisegangGaming A guy who runs a KZbin channel named Subbrief was a former Submarine Sonar operator. He said that Russia commissioned some of the best Submarines and are only best as long as they are brand new. But the problems with Russian military is that their discipline for MAINTENANCE is mediocre if downright pathetic. One of the huge Borei class subs could be tracked by the noise of a worn out bearing of a waterpump alone. It goes to show that maintenance of weapons ends up becoming far more expensive than building them. Makes you wonder what the state of Russian nuclear stockpile is.

[@BaronBytes]

Hours of flight training for the crews are crazy expensive and essential. Russia didn't have the money for that so until Syria their pilots had almost never piloted their toys. Also PGM are very important for modern aircraft and russian requires foreign component for theirs so their planes don't have the modern weaponry of the western counterparts. The rear shooting missile is weird to me because most modern engagement don't reach dogfight and are usually line of sight missile targeting.

[@BoisegangGaming]

@@legiran9564 Honestly, while a lot of sources about Russian stuff is unreliable (including stuff that apparently comes out of Russia itself), I do think we can definitely draw conclusions that in terms of technology, economy, and culture, they're not doing so well. Reminds me of the memes about the US being a They/Them army while the Russians are super manly and all that (DUAL WIELD RPKS WITHOUT A SHIRT)... and then it turns out conscripts are treated like shit, there's no espirit de corps, ethnic infighting between "white" Russians and minorities is common and even involves "jokes" of genocide, some training officer decided to say the most culturally offensive thing you can say to a devout Muslim and then give said Muslim a MG nest to train with, with predictable results.... Russia was only the 2nd strongest military in the world because it's not allied with the US. Honestly, I'm pretty sure if the EU had their own Defense Force, that would be the second largest army (though China is a contender from population alone, but has been struggling with the virus-that-must-not-be-named and its own tech base is struggling to modernize). Russia is literally like its dictator: It likes to show strength, but can't back it up when push comes to shove except for "well if you don't give me what I want I'm nuking you and this isn't a bluff".

[@adamknight5089]

Beautiful animations dude, props to you, great to see quality Aussie content creators

[@evildoeswingaming977]

So this plane came nowhere close to destroying the F-22.

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

Wasn't even a still birth, this baby plane was straight aborted.😆

[@SoloRenegade]

yup, not a stealth, wouldn't be able to find the F-22, or hide from it.

[@user-hg7hy8lv1m]

Ф-22 позорный самолёт .гордиться надо ф-16. Ф-15 ,ф-4. А этого надо стыдиться!!!

[@astronaut9571]

@@user-hg7hy8lv1m both the a F15 and the F4 were succesfulll aircraft

[@Tony-.]

@@user-hg7hy8lv1m but he surpasses any fighter in everything even now. The technologies that were worked out on it are as relevant as possible, so the price of the program is also justified. F16 and F15 are morally obsolete today against all modern threats to NATO. Why are they needed, to bomb the Middle East again?

[@georgenaidoo9553]

The quality of your content and editing is so damn good 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@Simon.15]

One of the best aircraft chanel Will all the prototypes that were never made Amazing

[@Razer_-fe9mo]

Looks like a good aircraft. Shame it never went into production. Also, excellent animations once again.

[@thenatron6136]

Description of 80% of russian planes

[@areyou0k98]

​@@thenatron6136looks and sounds good on paper but sucks irl lol.

[@boikanyoonneng9170]

A couple of things are wrong about this. The Mig MFI wasn't commissioned to replace the Su27. It was meant to work alongside it. Also stealth wasn't as big a priority because the Soviets were not going to sell the new Mig. It was going to be purely for the sake of a leg up on the US in the event of a confrontation. The Soviets felt that technology+ flight performance beat stealth. Based on declassified information from past engineers we know that the Mig MFI could be detected in X Band from 80km (from the front) and the Su27 at that time could be detected from 250km by the same radar. Which is impressive.

[@diegoescalon5280]

Who here has memories of flying this jet in Ace Combat Infinity?

[@marcoscasado8698]

Thank you for your work!

[@Tam0de]

To me, there's only one other aircraft who could beat the F-22 - hypothetically speaking - and that's the YF-23.

[@georgethompson913]

F-35 with its superior stealth and radar technologies.

[@denisdenak]

@@georgethompson913 F-35 stealth isn't superior

[@Ben-jr6vl]

Su 57 could beat it easily

[@mercxnary8719]

@@Ben-jr6vl Nah they cant even get enough combat ready and plus the f-22 can easily detect the su-57 before the su-57 even knows its in range😂

[@user-hg7hy8lv1m]

Ф-22 и ф-35 легко обнаруживаются локатором Ирбис который стоит на Су-30СМ и Су-35С. На дальностях 200 км. Невидимка это сказка для необразованый идиотов! 😂😂😂

[@mac_pls]

something about this plane just says pure awesomeness. shame it never really had a chance.

[@aerospacematt9147]

It’s design sorta lives on in the J-20. They have similar planform layouts.

[@mac_pls]

@@aerospacematt9147 yeah, but there is something about anything chinese that means it can't be put into the same sentence with awesome, at least in my book.

[@aerospacematt9147]

@@mac_pls I was agreeing that it was a shame the MiG didn’t see service. There are several design aspects that went on to be part of the J-20.

[@callofmetals24]

But it almost destroyed the f22 gotta remember that

[@blendpinexus1416]

kinda wished that these did come about, i'm a sucker for modular shared designs between machines

[@thexlonewolf671]

One of these appeared in the book “Raven One” by Kevin Miller, flown by secondary antagonist Hariri. In the book’s timeline, a small number of production 1.44’s were completed and at least one was exported to Iran. The book itself is actually quite good, I’d recommend reading it if you’re a fan of military aviation.

[@wileyeyefloaty665]

Been waiting for a mig update. Love the Mig and Su line of fighters. They're something else truly. Like art In the sky

[@smeary10]

And found to be quite underwhelming and under performers over the skies of the Ukraine. And to think, all our Western fighter pilots have trained to go up against the Flanker and Fulcrum expecting them to be equal to if not better than their western equivalent 4th gen aircraft. How wrong were we?

[@joeandseancooking]

But they’re never built 😂

[@wileyeyefloaty665]

I understand where you're coming from granted I never mentioned anything about air to air combat. With the right pilot/expertise and knowledge of their machine one could prove deadly for sure in the right scenario. Due to the fact there has not been any actual battle between air superiority Fighters today that'll be a question answered down the line. As for my original statement I was more leaning towards how graceful they are at speed not to mention Timeless lines as far as their look. Nobody can oppose that

[@wileyeyefloaty665]

Though I agree about their performance during the Ukraine situation I will say that. I don't know how much they have on hand as far as numbers that they can use but they also utilize single seat capability I'm no pilot but I would venture to say having a Rio with you would definitely help smooth out any stresses that you would have to deal with yourself while keeping your jet and ass dry otherwise boom. On a side note I've been following n g a d and waiting for more updates to see what's going to come to fruition 6th gen Fighters is going to be a benchmark for aircraft all around Mach numbers like we've never seen

[@ozymandiasultor9480]

@@smeary10 You have no idea what is happening in Ukraine. And your western fighters are lucky because most Soviet and Russian planes are better than yours.

[@crushthis123]

Take a picture of the Avro Arrow. It was tooled up right from the start for production. They were making and changing the plane during production so that it would see full production from the start of the project. I know from experience that jigging up from the start is essential to cost effectiveness....

[@captainpoptarts]

Damn, these keep getting better than perfect editing. Also, what is the music at the beginning of the explanation before the sponsor segue?

[@subhagatadatta3032]

instead of a dual engine heavy fighter they should have created the single engine light fighter that could complement the Sukhoi 27 .

[@jnorth6022]

...and such light fighter could replace the ageing MiG-29. As a result of the 1.44 program's failure, Russia currently lacks any advanced light, cheap-ish fighter.

[@spinningsquare1325]

@@jnorth6022 mig 35 is almost as expensive as the more capable su 30 so yes you are right

[@rangerhawk]

It would be about as accurate to say as, the concept drawing that almost destroyed the F22.

[@janusz4156]

MiG-1.44 "Flatpack" - star of Ace Combat series.

[@IronHawk-711]

But the Su-47 overtook it there too.

[@brycestewart7228]

Love your videos. I want to see thar qantas plane in your squarespace ad, looks awesome.

[@diltzm]

Looks very similar to the Chengdu J20, maybe not a coincidence?

[@PadparadZha27]

it really doesn't once you see a side by side view of them

[@shturm602]

Looks way more like a Eurofighter Typhoon or maybe a J-10 more than anything

[@fallenoverseer2525]

the J-20 took a bit of inspiration from the mig 1.44

[@PadparadZha27]

@@fallenoverseer2525 no it didn't?

[@fallenoverseer2525]

@@PadparadZha27 A BIT of inspiration

[@ngk4279]

This MiG lives on in Command and Conquer Generals

[@cdgncgn]

Do serious comparison to Su-75.

[@StormDragon771]

MiG MFI/1.44: "You took everything from me!" F-22 Raptor: "I don’t even know you."

[@candyman4778]

Yo, for a second I thought that was a Eurofighter Typhoon

[@AaronShenghao]

The nose and cockpit definitely came from Eurofigher. But I won't be surprised, the only prototype was super early concept. Cockpit looked comically small...

[@SimonTekConley]

Did they save it all to a floppy? Actually. The concept of a missile firing backwards is something I've wondered about since the 80s. I've also wondered why they don't have camera's aimed at the wings and tail of commercial planes because it would probably help a lot

[@majordakka5743]

High off boresight missiles along with helmet cueing systems, DAS/EOTS and powerful software models capable of sensor fusion make this possible with the F35

[@Ben-jr6vl]

Fun fact the Russian tu bomber is the only aircraft in the world with this capability

[@lil__boi3027]

@@Ben-jr6vl what bomber?

[@Raptorofwarbbc]

@@Ben-jr6vl f35 can shoot missiles behind itself

[@davidguy9197]

"I've also wondered why they don't have camera's aimed at the wings and tail of commercial planes because it would probably help a lot"..74 / 5 000 Résultats de traduction Résultat de traduction it must also be remembered that an airplane in flight very rarely makes slots..😂 fighter planes have cotpick mirrors, but the possibility of shooting at a pursuer is rather something to be developed...not to mention that the distance to be covered is all the shorter as the follower goes to meet the shot

[@spectre06x]

Right...a concept that never went beyond the drawing board "almost destroyed" the world's first Fifth Generation production fighter, and most capable fighter jet ever to enter service. Gotta love these titles.

[@boikanyoonneng9170]

They actually built 1. A flying fully functional one. The Russian defense budget just couldn't afford it in meaningful numbers.

[@KatamuroTheFirst]

it did fly, but because of the troubles in Russia after 1991 it took nearly ten years to get it to flight prototype and at that point it was too late and too expensive for Russian government.

[@L33tSkE3t]

To be 5th generation , although it varies by county, needs to be able to SuperCruise at Mach 1+ speeds without the use of afterburners, have both active and passive stealth capabilities, thrust vectoring (in some cases) and a highly automated augmented reality fully computerized flight control system, and beyond visual range weapon systems. 6th Gen, which we likely have already developed and are flying to some degree, have all of these, as well as allowing for either direct or remote control autonomous piloting, AI for flying, targeting and weapons / systems and flight management and the ability to serve as a mothership to companion drones like the Lockheed Loyal Wingman and Northrop X47B

[@willisaw135]

At least it's playable in Ace Combat.

[@erics8192]

Designers of the 1.44 watch the movie "firefox", sees a plane that can shoot a missile backwards. "Hey, that's a decent idea, we should try to do that."

[@Joshua_N-A]

Today you got all-aspect AA missiles.

[@georgewright3949]

That's one funky looking Typhoon

[@webkarmic1]

I have looking for the answer to the reason why MIG company failed. Thank you for covering that in your video.

[@yoavgoodman7379]

Plz do a video on the IAI lavi It's a really great fighter jet and it's story is very interesting 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@petersouthernboy6327]

More like the F-22 killed off the entire MiG design Bureau

[@noteimportax6477]

Mig stills here 🐴jkss

[@fqeagles21]

@@noteimportax6477 yeah but not relevant,look at the Mig 35

[@noteimportax6477]

@@fqeagles21 russian airforce is taking mig 35s pal

[@Tony-.]

@@noteimportax6477 only to save mig bureau itself. They build only 70 modern planes for 15 years or so?

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

Reagan SDI go brrrrr.

[@Iknowtoomuchable]

Now I'm not exactly an expert in radar cross sections, but those intakes don't look very stealthy.

[@rookieable]

Great Video :D i'm interested to know what software was used to make the video and animation?

[@FoundAndExplained]

Sure thing! Maya to create the model, Blender to animate it (free) Premiere pro to do the video editing with the footage And some light peppers of after effects for titles or map animations

[@rookieable]

@@FoundAndExplained thanks a lot :D Looking forward for the next video ✌️

[@aussiefan354]

Very good doco mate. The Cold War aircraft developed by the USA & USSR were way ahead of their times.

[@FoundAndExplained]

Thanks Aussie Fan!

[@aussiefan354]

@@FoundAndExplained No problems mate take care

[@dat581]

@@aussiefan354 USA yes, USSR/Russia no. Not even close.

[@meandthebois7565]

@@dat581 Cope LMAO

[@aussiefan354]

@@dat581 Are you serious?? The Soviets had a lot of cool designs also!!

[@hudbudmudsud]

I really enjoyed flying this in AC:X

[@allgood6760]

Thanks for this.

[@Koshzor]

"Almost destroyed" are strong words for a plane that flew only once

[@John_Redcorn_]

Almost destroyed the F-22?? You have to leave the runway first.

[@lightspeedvictory]

Supposedly, rumor/conspiracy theory has it that China bought or stole the blueprints to this to help develop the J-20. Also according to this one book I have, it was “cloaked in plasma which surrounds the aircraft in electrically charged gas that renders it “invisible” to radar.” Don’t know if it’s true or if the book authors were just making shit up though… Requesting videos on the following: -switchblade aircraft designs such as the FA-37 Talon from the ‘05 movie “Stealth” or the X-02 Wyvern from the Ace Combat franchise -Super Tomcat-21 and ASF-14 -the NATF program as a whole -early ATF proposals -Sea Apache -F-20 Tigershark -Bae SABA -Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Technology Bomber proposal

[@lenadams854]

MBB Lampyridae

[@bettycocker2226]

why does the internet suddenly believe that every fighter ever stands a chance against a raptor?

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Clickbait.

[@ozymandiasultor9480]

Because raptor is not as good as most think.

[@alostbaron781]

@@ozymandiasultor9480 except... It is. F-35 is even better. It's won every aircraft competition it's been in.

[@ozymandiasultor9480]

@@alostbaron781 No, it is not. It is expensive junk.

[@bettycocker2226]

@@ozymandiasultor9480 "not as good as most think" it's the best multi role jet on the planet my guy.

[@RobHo-wt6rq]

You post more often than all my other favourite channels 😂

[@gremlinsaregold8890]

I suppose if we are going to compare the F-35 and F-22 to imaginary aircraft then the Imperial Tie Fighter could also be a serious threat.

[@donnie6178]

I think it's a very capable and extremely gorgeous aircraft. They never should have canceled it.

[@ezragoldberg3132]

Sure, it's a pretty plane but it doesn't look like it belongs in the same Era/Generation as X/F-22 and X-23.

[@mopar_dude9227]

It was never finished, so there is no way to say it is capable of anything. It only flew a couple times and not with armament of any kind. I think the fastest it ever flew was between 350-400 mph, so you can’t even say if it would fly supersonic. The idiot that runs this channel makes a lot of videos like this. He finds information about designs/blueprints of aircraft that were either never built or never finished testing and claims them to be superior to other proven aircraft. Most likely he is some 14 year old that gets most of his information from video games.

[@jade7631]

@@ezragoldberg3132The F-22 looked like a slightly bigger F-15 with a few tweaks when it first came out. The F-22 you see today came out more than a decade after the cancellation of the MiG.

[@fretsward2225]

The same was said about the Su-57. It's always better, bigger, more weapons capability, faster, and better than the F-22, yet they never show up. I could come up with a concept. How about first engaging and defeating Ukranian Su-27s and Mig-29s?

[@landonhall4875]

If it has no serial it didn’t almost destroy anything, hell I don’t even think Russia could beat themselves

[@fretsward2225]

@@landonhall4875 When the curtain is pulled back, Russian, like China are pretending to equal adverasies to American military technology and its personnel. Neither of the two would last a week with U.S. forces, especially its air superiority. I've always admired Russian aviation from a distance, seeing the awesome airshow videos, and reading that they on par with the U.S. Air Force. But seeing what has happened in Ukraine, I like many who have served in the military were shocked to the losses of Russian equipment and forces. 55 Russian warplanes shot down since this phase of the Russo-Ukrainian war in Feb 2022...

[@cdgncgn]

they are pretty stealthy and far from hostile radars, they participate in SMO. Old 27 and 29 in presence of rus IADS that cover a 57 ? R-37M is able to be used. S-300V4 giant missiles, S-400, tor, pantsir, buk m2,3 ? New planes trickle in, IADS keeps them low, 57 can go high and snipe from above.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

@@cdgncgn They participate in the war? By doing what? Parades? Sniping from above? What are they sniping? The Russian army is reduced to elderly men with rusty AKs. The Su-57 did not protect the Russian soldiers. They didn't snipe anything. Cowardice.

[@skyofstorms]

@@fretsward2225 Well, one of the main reasons was the US politicians jumping to protect their corruptio- I mean to save the Ukrainian people by shipping hundreds of US made anti air and anti armor weapons as well as the support crews to train the locals to use them at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer, to the tune of at least a billion dollars smh.

[@Minh-Tran-04]

This is more of a Russian Eurofighter typhoon than a response for F-22

[@Akm72]

Agreed however it doesn't have the canards as far forwards which is done on the Eurofighter to maximise instability in pitch and reduce drag while maneuvering at supersonic speed. While it might match Eurofighter for speed and altitude it probably doesn't match the sustained supersonic turn performance.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

@@Akm72 speed and altitude are easy. ‘Some 50’a planes are comparable to modern ones on those factors.

[@Akm72]

@@Justanotherconsumer Indeed. I sometimes refer to the Eurofighter as a 'have your cake and eat it' kind of fighter because it has all the advantages of a late 1950s supersonic fighter with the delta wing while the disadvantages have all been reduced or eliminated and so it can also turn at subsonic speeds like a 1970s teen-series fighter.

[@daschaos8420]

Holy crap, tactical fighter reporting

[@smartbaba1321]

Need an story on "Sukhoi company" too. How this company survived

[@tgsgardenmaintenance4627]

How different would the world be if every country had the same defence budget? I saw the MiG 144 at that very airshow, MAKS 2015! Saw the SU-57 fly that day along with the SU-35 & 34! Very impressive!!

[@Tony-.]

Their interaction is more important, not just budget. What flies on the show is just a beautiful airframe, but without Western electronics and stuffing, avionics are generations behind. The Su-34 has great potential, but today it is forced to fly directly over enemy fire and is already suffering heavy losses. It's madness

[@ProAvgeek6328]

we have mig 1.44, this thing, su-47 as 5th gen fighter protoypes. any more?

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

Mitsubishi X-2

[@kentl7228]

Were they going to genetically engineer a Clint Eastwood to fly the aircraft?

[@melangellatc1718]

Plane first flew about 30 years ago and stopped being developed a good while back... Late to the party, Found and Explained.

[@christianbezzina7251]

No way this aircraft would have been stealthy.

[@AaronShenghao]

It would be stealthier than Su-47, except the later then have stealth coating on it (at least the purposed export version). But yes, it wasn't designed to have stealth coating, after all it's a early prototype. Plus, they were trying to do something like active jamming like MiG-31 does.

[@meandthebois7565]

@@AaronShenghao It did have plasma stealth.

[@gonzalosebastianrengel6765]

The MiG 1.44 was the technological demonstrator for the aerodynamic concept and for testing the various control surfaces. The serial fighter was the MiG 1.42 with a double delta wing and a V-shaped air intake. Supposedly it had a weapons bay and a stealth plasma system.

[@KatamuroTheFirst]

while developing the 1.44 they were also developing 1.46 which was to be a heavily upgraded version of it, likely including more stealth components

[@Yorkington]

Stealth plasma? I doubt it would have went that fast to generate any sort of plasma around it, nor do I think it could have withstood those sorts of forces.

[@grafschmidt9309]

As a kids playing it beneath C&C generals, Already built them in the form of papercraft model

[@chasethompson3645]

Can’t wait!!!

[@joeandseancooking]

It’s never gonna exist bud

[@chasethompson3645]

Bro I was talking about his video I was waiting for it to come out😂

[@joeandseancooking]

@@chasethompson3645 oops 😂

[@nothinghappenedatpearlharb7426]

This is literally what the J20 was based on

[@peceed]

Everything is different. From intake placement to canard position.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Didn't China had a delta canard design concept long before the 1.44?

[@peceed]

@@Joshua_N-A It doesn't matter. General aerodynamic concepts are both obvious and known for +-100 years. First aircraft was a canard!

[@sydneystout4003]

this plane & its smaller brother, if navalized, could be made into good deck fighters! Lavi led to J-10 & MiG-1.44 led to J-20.

[@AaronShenghao]

J-10 is based on Su-27. And MiG denied they shared any information regarding MiG 1.44 with the Chinese. Not surprising, Chinese didn't bought any MiGs by that time... The last MiG they bought was MiG 21, and the Soviets intentionally gave them the wrong blueprint to "rip them off". (The Soviet-China relationship wasn't great. Blue print doesn't match with the initial MiG-21 kits they bought, they went as far as intercepting 3 MiG-21s destined for Vietnam to take them apart and study them.) In hindsight, MiG kick started the Chinese's desire to design aircraft on their own.

[@christse3467]

@@AaronShenghao Do you mean J-11 sino-flankers right? As for the Lavi-J-10 connection, both planes are of different weight class, wing shape and top speed, despite Israel did provide assistance in avionics.

[@sydneystout4003]

@@christse3467 the J-10 is an enlarged & modified plane based on the Lavi design, just like the F-18E/F is based on the F-18C/D & the J-39 Grippen is derived from the J-37 Viggen.

[@christse3467]

@@sydneystout4003 SHornet only shares the nose section with Hornet, while Viggen and Gripen are a generation apart, they are no way modified designs. J-10 and Lavi both started out as F-16-ish, the former fuselage was redesigned to fit in a russian engine.

[@sydneystout4003]

@@christse3467 SHornet & Gripen r enlarged/upgraded but based on Hornet & Viggen, respectively, in what Russians call "deep modernization", just like J-7 & MiG-21, Y-9 & Y-8, Y-7 & An-24, An-12 & An-8, C-130J & C-130, Il-76MD-90 & Il-76MD/TD, Il-96 & Il-86, B-52 & B-47.

[@Desire123ification]

A redesigned MiG 144 model was on display at the MAKS 2021. Perhaps hinting a comaback...

[@user-jq3qk2nq2q]

No, it was a restored old prototype. He will then go to the museum forever. The road to the sky is closed for this aircraft.

[@user-df2bc1qm9v]

It was assembled in 1988 in Горький city I worked in Iraq at that time with the guys who did it and up to 1993 it was kept secret at ЛИИ Жуковский city.

[@SpanishAvenger]

One of my favourite planes in HAWX 2… ah, the memories!

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

First off: Woah, Hamilton's here too... Second: This jet _could_ have destroyed the F-22 (Rather, it would have been comparable to the F-22 but not overtly better in any meaningful way), but then the Soviet Union realized, "Oh shit, we have no money." and dissolved.

[@user-rr4md8ft5p]

Stalin and Lenin died, that's why he dissolved

[@americanpaisareturns9051]

Then Maverick came along and shot down three of their MiGs and two of their Su’s.

[@crushthis123]

The winglets were a development of the Avro Arrow to get around the area wing rule for super sonic flight...

[@niallbaker5937]

3:53 every one forgets about the gripen

[@jade7631]

J-20 was based of ofvthis aircraft

[@Ribbon_13]

This plane was what made me believe that the Russian tech was over hyped.

[@BoisegangGaming]

So much of Russian tech is overhyped, and there's been a whole bunch of schadenfreude about how poor that has been. Yes, they can make advanced things, but they can't support or maintain them. The US, however, can make advanced stuff and does, and has plenty of capital, industrial, and economic might to support it. Even if the US military budget was slashed in half, it still would have more resources than Russia.

[@jasonjoseph3975]

I "almost" won the lottery, but I'm still broke! Almost counts in horse shoes

[@jernejfunkl8300]

From the looks of it, it is clear that it cannot threaten the F-22 :)

[@isaacteo4063]

I'm starting to believe that Russia is so incompetent that they only focus lying thinking it will become true from watching the Amazing World of Gumball.

[@davidtuchscherer6276]

The mig 21 was feared among all western countries, as being able to take them off with no effort. Until they captured one and studied it. Then it kinda shows that the main budget inserted in the plane was the propaganda around it. Just like the s400 currently letting old soviets tozca U ballistic missiles through it's "unpenetrable" airspace. It was still a good plane tho.

[@martinmiller1087]

We should send Biden over there to help them straighten things out.

[@shabbired]

@@davidtuchscherer6276 mig 21 performed pretty well in Vietnam war though...

[@John_Redcorn_]

@@davidtuchscherer6276 that was the mig 25. A soviet pilot defected to japan i believe

[@alonedoughnut]

Russia has been struggling to get into the 5th Generation for years, and this aircraft shows how behind they always are. The SU-57, while impressive on paper, still lacks the production quantity and quality to be a serious competitor. I don't think we'll ever see the Russians on the cutting edge again.

[@_XPXI]

Plus, the Su-57 isn’t stealth when carrying a payload. It has no internal weapons bay.

[@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire]

@@_XPXI The Su-57 has an internal weapons bay, so does the J-20

[@PadparadZha27]

@@_XPXI where the hell did you get that? the su-57 has a weapons bay

[@BroBytesBhai]

@@_XPXI 😂 get your facts right kid.

[@alexander1485]

When he said "answer to the f22 raptor..." it showed an eurofighter typhoon lol

[@kwkfortythree39]

I have been all the video wanting to see how those 12 missiles fit inside the plane.

[@macmccartney5760]

The only plane that would have been more capable than the raptor to this date would have been the blackwidow

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

F22 is a hangar queen

[@CharlesFlahertyB]

The MiG 1.44 live on in the form of the Chengdu J-20

[@user-jj4vl2fn9g]

Yes indeed. If you parked the MiG 1.44 and J-20 together, It's so obvious to even a no-brainer that the Chinese use the MiG 1.44 as the baseline for the J-20.

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

Imagine, 2 aircraft built for the same role looking similar. Wow.

[@paulhickie6974]

Thanks 😊.

[@nassimtahraoui6287]

Good video 😎💯🤝

[@emilianosartori19]

Russia is always almost having this fantastic ultimate weapon that will flip the table ...

[@orkako]

Here, just like the Germans had during the war. :)

[@fecalmatter4195]

I don't understand the Russian mind set they want a fighter that can do everything to compete with America but don't want to pay for it. Why wouldn't you prioritise maybe stealth and scrap maneuverability then you just change tactics and make it affordable yet still competitive. I would prioritise stealth and supercruise limit the missiles it can carry if it helps with cost/Weight. Missiles it can carry isn't the be all end all because these would fly in pairs at least.

[@jade7631]

Because they don’t have money after the collapse they are completely broke, but as of now they are focusing on increasing weapon productions

[@jg3000]

Supercruise is only good for air superiorty fighters. Other than that it's pretty useless.

[@SceurdiaStudios]

That thumbnail is absolutely beautiful

[@portcybertryx222]

This plane didn’t die it just lives on in the J20 as it is well documented that the MiG bureau collaborated with Chengdu airspace for the J20 program

[@jaanikaapa6925]

No it didn't.

[@H.P206]

what didn‘t it?

[@jaanikaapa6925]

@@H.P206 Didn't destroy the F-22.

[@Gearparadummies]

The pride of the Russian Air Force. *Laughs in Ukrainian*

[@cdgncgn]

until they tell you there is a new cool topic and ukr as a state is no more. Yes, I meet with V.V. P. every week and with the sec council, I do report on the progress of PR campaign. It is not a sikrit. I work directly, not through GRU or other organizations. Trust me.

[@bricklayer6934]

-Honey, where are our plates -In engines

[@Shadow-pr4pi]

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