Converting the Mustang To Manual Brakes!

Feels great to have my car back on the road again! Stay tuned for more videos! Huge shout out to Wilwood for helping me out!
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[@ghuye1711]

Hey man, you’re the reason I got my ‘66. She’s been my first car and a real dream come true. I’ve been working my ass off to get bring her back to life and I’m finally picking up my new motor in a few weeks. What you’re doing is bigger than just KZbin. Keep it up! If you’re ever down south in LA hmu!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

That’s awesome man! Keep it up!

[@jamesstuart3238]

Hows the 66 going?

[@jasonrackawack9369]

Dang those tires make the look of that car, everyone runs torque thrusts but the old school rubber makes them look "right". Neat car!👍

[@Chevelle602]

Agree 100%

[@steverice7546]

Abso-fuckin-lately! The wheel & tire combo sets it off and makes what would be a plain-Jane ‘64 1/2 Stang (like mine!, no offense). I think dude hit the nail right on the head! I’m jealous. Hey OP, what are the wheel/tire exact specs? I double dog dare/promise you I won’t copy you exactly on my Mustang. Pinky promise.

[@rivaldad88]

I can attest to the firewall weakness. Took out a friend’s GT350 clone convertible, only to have the clutch cable melt and sieze up. Swapped the auto adjusting pedal assembly to the billet non-adjustable, only to have the cable snap, but not before it put a inch long tear in the firewall where the cable passes through. Good life lessons. Welded up the firewall and put a CNC plate I designed over that section. Better than ever now!

[@nickefgen9219]

Cool car I’ve got a 1967 fastback that I’ve had since high school it’s my first car owned for 35 years

[@bobmcdougal7501]

Welcome to the manual brake club! On my 69 Mach 1 I had the same issues and the same results as you. It's nice to see youngsters into classic Mustangs.

[@markcolburn6804]

Hey Bob, I'm about to make the switch too on my '69 GT-500. Can you fill me in on the best combo and what you did on yours? I have no power assist due to my solid roller. Thank you!

[@8.2deck]

I love manual brakes personally there constant at the track, and you can run a big cam with no issues

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks for all the support! Follow me on Instagram @benkahan for additional content!

[@noeortiz6128]

Just followed you on ig, where did you get the brake firewall plate, and the manual dual bowl master cylinder part number. Thanks

[@HammerHeadGarage]

I was just watching the "Bad News" build when you were like 3 years old. Wow time flies. Manual brakes work just fine buddy. Nickel/copper lines work well.

[@arlingtonhynes]

When you get the brakes sorted it’s like being born again. I just finally bled my brakes on my Kawi 636 a few weeks ago (same as you - the mity vac was a mistake) and I know exactly how you feel.

[@toddbob55]

Im 42 years old i Built a Maverick Grabber back in high school in the mid 1990's .....i love that your into old Muscle cars at your age.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

hope you were intelligent and held on to it and not a complete idiot and got rid of it.

[@steves4639]

manual steer in my Mach, which is awesome...time to convert to manual brakes too. thx for the reminder!

[@26snaiper]

The sound, the looks of this car... i just like everthing about it😂

[@deadriseful]

I used to bleed brakes that way, but I spent the 100 bucks on a motive bleeder kit and never looked back. Totally worth it seeing that it forces the fluid through the master cylinder reservoirs. Also, manual brakes are the way to go for any kind of car honestly. I daily my nova with them and it doesn't bother me for a second.

[@peterlopez8044]

Decided to go back to manual brakes a while ago! Literally the same reason, didn’t feel right when pressing down.

[@kelos79]

As a 66 model mustang owner, I follow you from across the ocean and I have no regrets :) I wish you continued success. I hope to meet you in America one day.

[@kaydesign]

I had the same problem with a Classic Landrover, we placed a mechanical vacuum pump from a small European (Peugeot) car. Brakes are amazing now! But going to put manual brakes on my 1967 Mustang to : )

[@CJColvin]

Hey it's good to see you're dad brother.

[@Dave_Boyer]

I had one of those Wilwood masters on a car I built for over ten years, it worked awesome. It’s now my first choice for any car I’m working on.

[@gmans7859]

Thank you for the inspiration. After a recent camshaft change I am borderline enough vacuum to run the booster. It works but old and tired. Shall do the homework for my Torino.

[@leighpeddell8210]

Going manual master my self…nice to see your impressions. The reason you could still get bubbles using the vacuum pump is they suck air around the threads of the bleed nipples…..you need to put some grease on the bleed nipple threads and then screw them back in before bleeding….that seals the threads.

[@danielgleaves1330]

Another good vid Ben. Thanks for keeping us older (much older) motorheads entertained. It's good to see younger folk, such as yourself and Craig, keeping vintage Detroit tin alive.

[@BadAssEngineering]

10:45 Stalling The Car in front of 2 pretty girls :(

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

Happens to the best of us.

[@danithaman4610]

He did it on purpose lol. My dad has been driving stick for 30+ years but when he was showing me how to drive stick he “accidentally” stalled in front of two girls lol

[@kmoss9521]

One girl’s head snapped around when it died too! She knows!

[@fido139]

They knew they were the cause. ;)

[@classic_car7495]

I have had great success using the Motiv power bleeder on a bunch of my cars. The only issue I have using it is getting an adaptor for all the different types of master cylinder caps. Good luck with your ride, nice to see younger people into the "old" car hobby. I am wrapping up a restoration to my 69 coupe and I need to replace a bad master cylinder.

[@OldAndGettingOlder]

Well done. I once pondered power brakes. My manuals work perfectly and I much prefer the more minimal look under the hood.

[@shiftat85]

I have a 69 camaro I was on the fence about manual brakes due to a large cam. But this video changed my mind to go manual, Great video!

[@ebrowntaylor1]

I have manual brakes on my chevelle, and honestly wouldn't have it any other way. Awesome video!

[@JDWorkshop-wn9tt]

I love how you hang out with your dad doing this hot rod stuff!

[@L8bro]

I did a four wheel disc brake Wilwood conversion 2 years ago to my '66. Never looked back.

[@andrewmcmurray6236]

Great video I've been wanting to put manual brakes on my chevelle, definitely the next upgrade im doing now!

[@ranzamaceanruig]

I like how you refer to changing to manual brakes as an "upgrade"! I have factory manual brakes on my '69 Buick GS. Nice and simple, work great. Go for it.

[@supersportimpalass]

Got me thinking about it now for my 64 Impala. The pedal feel right now is so inconsistent. Sometimes they work great and other times not so much. I want to put a bigger cam in and dont think thats going to help any. Thought about doing a hydraboost setup. Not sure yet.

[@Chevelle602]

I have manual brakes on my Chevelle. Never felt the need to get power brakes.

[@Photobombin]

Heck yeah man Manual Brakes are the way to go and feel so good, especially when driving classics spiritedly! Always love when you drop new content and I enjoy seeing your personal build transform and your growth with the car as well.

[@oceanman8125]

that thing sounds so perfect

[@freakindawgen]

My 65 289 4V 4-speed had the factory disc with single master cyl. Had it where only needed inch and half travel to full stop.

[@tompreciado863]

Thanks for the update on the brakes. I’ve been hesitant on going with manual brakes. I will definitely give it a try. Thank you guys!

[@lbrastaman]

Wow. I’ve had stainless steel brake company disc brakes with a power booster kit for the past 8 years and always thought the brakes were soft and slow to stop. I was about to replace them all with Wilwood brakes on all fours when a local shop suggested that I start first with just a Wilwood manual MC. Suggested the 15/16” bore and it made a huge difference! Enough that now I can stop and screech when I stop hard. Still not stopping like a new modern car but good enough for now. Maybe next will be the upgrade to Wilwood discs. Even though I went from power booster to manual, the assistance is hardly missed and totally unnecessary. Wish I knew what you did in this video years ago. Keep up the great video production and content!

[@r.weaver3769]

I use DOT 5 or synthetic, has a higher boiling point and doesn’t harm your paint. But if you have ABS it is not recommended, not as forgiving as the DOT 3 and 4.

[@brianf8621]

Now you have good brakes. Investigate pads. I personally run Hawk ceramics for street and track day (yellow box). They take the heat of aggressive driving and consistent at cold temps. Glad to see younger generations working on their own cars.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

You drive that car on those tyres? Very brave!

[@2nd66tube2]

These cars are so lite . If you put disk on the rear you'll have to sail them way back to avoid rear lock up . Drums are actually more efficient at stopping because the self energize. disk shed heat better

[@angelsone-five7912]

Brake fluid - the finest paint stripper in the world. (damn stuff!)

[@BrierJacobson]

My buddy and I were just taking about manual vs power brakes on a 1960 f100 I’m thinking about buying! I’ll show him this video 😤

[@alankahan6669]

Hey Ben,,,did not know the stang firewall was so thin ,,happy you installed the support..happy manual looks like you did a good thing,,

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks!

[@mrmoss149]

Again- love the music & when it's used. Great job. Thanks for posting

[@umangu]

It’s cool that your brakes work well now. My booster works really well, but sometimes it works better than I want it to! I understand what you mean by the lack of a natural feel.

[@markrs2000]

Just found your video, really good, clear descriptions. Love that sound, I've got a 67 coupe, small block, sounds just like that. Makes me want to get back on the road again.

[@Ub3rGam3rz]

Seriesly cool ride man. And I love the effort in the videos. The sound effects are that little sprinkle that make it.

[@marcoferreira3832]

Your dad is such as cool dude!

[@FourIdiotsGarage]

Love the content man. Gives me inspiration on my 65.

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks, man! That's awesome

[@BackYardYonkes]

Hell yeah Ben! Keep up the dope video! Manual brakes for the win 💪🏼

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks bro haha!

[@jamesguckenberger5692]

I have the stock manual drum brakes on my 68 and I was surprised at how well they actually work. My dads 69 mgb has more modern disk brakes and mine actually compete lol.

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

drum brakes kind of blow.you might stop like discs once,do it twice and you wont.drums fade real fast

[@jamesguckenberger5692]

@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 thats true if Im braking really hard but for daily driving It isnt a big deal

[@joelywalsh]

The mustang looks good

[@scramblendan]

Nice video. Hadn't really considered manual brakes on my car (firebird) although I do have manual brakes on my Jeep CJ (stock so of course not going to stop like Wiwood manuals). Your dad is cool...probably your best friend in disguise 🙂

[@matt302de]

Coming from a family of old school muscle car enthusiasts love your videos and hopefully by the time I'm around 20 I can get a 1970 mustang or something similar like that especially a Torino

[@FourSpeedFilms]

That would be sick!

[@matt302de]

@@FourSpeedFilms it really would be you with your mustang and the other vehicles really inspires me

[@jasony9950]

Nice job on the sound editing as well as video editing. Also, nice to see a young guy into the classics. Looks like I need to go through my brakes on the falcon...

[@WideOpenMotorsports943]

This is awesome. I am actually looking to do this to my wife's 67 mustang. Could you tell me the Willwood part number you used for this?

[@tgafire87]

Adding the reinforcement plate to the parts list. Thanks!

[@caivnj]

Where did you get the plate from. I know this is a long shot question.

[@tgafire87]

@@caivnj Google master cylinder brace and there’s a few options.

[@jamesstuart3238]

Nasty tire setup man

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks

[@lukevanwyk2541]

Great to see the work on your mustang. But I gotta say the video and editing skills are coming along well. Great job on both man.

[@2-old-Forthischet]

My 67 Mustang only had 11-12 inches of vacuum but it was enough for the brake booster. Call me old but.............www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/vacuum-pumps-street Also: Q: Besides the Manual Brake Conversion Kit to mount the master cylinder, is there anything else I should do to my brake system when I convert to manual brakes? A: Yes. You should improve the rest of your brake system as much as your circumstances allow. Without power-assist, everything else in the brake system needs to work as well as possible. Among the things to consider: High performance brake pads, matched to how you use your car, should be installed. A street-driven Mustang needs pads with a high coefficient of friction when cold. Road-raced Mustangs need friction material suited for the temperatures encountered on the track. Any axle endplay will contribute to increased rear pad knockback. That will cause an intermittent low pedal that is much more noticeable with manual brakes than with power brakes. The stock Traction-Lock differential should have the clutches shimmed tightly to minimize axle endplay. Stainless steel braided brake hoses will reduce hose expansion, and provide a firmer pedal feel. The soft pedal feel from hose expansion is more noticeable with manual brakes than with power brakes. Swapping to larger front discs will greatly improve the stopping ability. For example, swapping GT rotors to larger diameter 13" Cobra-sized front brake rotors will provide a significant reduction in stopping distance. An adjustable brake-proportioning valve will allow adjusting the rear brake pressure for the best front to rear bias on your particular Mustang. Properly sizing the front and rear rotors, as well as the front and rear caliper piston areas, to be close to a front/rear bias of 70%/30% will provide the best braking performance. In the end, braking ability is determined by tire grip. Sticky tires have more grip, and will provide more stopping ability. Optimize your combination. For example, a drag race car with big sticky rear tires and skinnies up front will need a brake system with a rear brake bias much higher than 30%. Designing the brake system to have more rear bias will avoid prematurely locking the skinny front tires, and take advantage of the greater amount of rear grip. Choose a master cylinder size that properly matches up to the front and rear brakes on your Mustang.

[@routeddown66]

That master cylinder looks great in there. I think you just made me go spend some money. I was debating power vs manual, the factory single reservoir and disk setup on my gt leaves a lot to be desired. Great video! Thanks man!

[@mt186]

Did you end up going manual? How are you liking it

[@cmscms123456]

That cam shaft was robbing you of enough vacuum to operate the booster properly. Most people with big cams will go to an electric vacuum pump for their brakes. Big cams are great, but your power brakes will be null... What cam do you have in the Mustang?

[@GreaserthoughtsGarage]

Hell yeah ben!! When are we going to hit the strip!!

[@Mourir0]

Finally new video with mustang Ben. Inspired again , i'll do the same on mine :))

[@MarkCarr331]

great channel.. awesome videos with fantastic editing

[@aaronjacobs579]

Love your channel man. Great videos, content and a great car!

[@kyleallen438]

Cool video! Please teach your dad how to use a clutch.....just funny

[@65GTO400]

I really enjoy your videos! Keep em coming.

[@incredibleadventures1027]

10:43 Girls: "OMG does he even know how to drive?"

[@chadbailey7038]

Another awesome video! Do me a favor, ask your dad what brand Drum brakes he likes?! -I’m planning on getting a 65/66 Mustang and I would actually prefer to just keep the drums for now. I guess I’m a drum brakes fan-boy like him 🤷🏾‍♂️ 😂

[@snoopyonderdonk]

A great video as always. Love the videos Ben!

[@seanjohnson6899]

Great vid. Seems like you need to get your carburetor professionally tuned maybe.

[@BadAssEngineering]

Why is this channel not having 100k subs at least ??

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks! KZbin’s algorithm sucks

[@marcuscrammer4317]

Cool! Where did you get the brace?

[@bubot17]

you also need manual brakes if you don't have enough vacuum because of big duration camshafts

[@randythorne4401]

Stock 289? What cam do you have in it. Love your car!!

[@evanjenkins263]

yessirrr another mustang video

[@TomHappyapril]

Think ill do the same to my 65 mustang, i have the same wilwoods upfront and a summit power booster kit at the moment thats never worked that well....

[@amx19733]

Great video!!!!

[@exoticsnyc6990]

Just found your channel and love the muscle car content. Im an Euro car guy at heart but recently I bought a C4 6-speed vette for a change and dumped a buncha parts in to it. Goal was to build a daily/canyon carver and last couple of months have been a great build jouney. Im thinking of going manual brakes also but dont want a super stiff pedal. Hows the pedal feel??...is it harder to press down on or similar to power brakes??

[@jeffs7154]

Where did you get that firewall reinforcement plate for the master cylinder?

[@GnarlySpeedShop]

Manual brakes are next for the Firebird!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Awesome! You’re going to love them

[@jimmyrosa2030]

Nice job, very talented. Curious what size lines did you run and did you have to put a residual valve in the front?

[@johnmilner7603]

Shame on Ford for not having the firewall plate. Glad to see the conversion worked out.

[@joeygarcia2888]

Can u add the plate part link and the master cylinder part link? Awesome mustang btw!

[@WillyRaschke]

needs a 8-ball shifter.... He Dad, your kid is brung up right.

[@reyzapata9375]

Hi, I’m Rey from San Fernando Valley. We own a 68 Mustang GT. &, I’m always having trouble with my brake booster. I’ve changed them at least 3 times in 2yrs. And my brake pedals still hit the floor. Are you in the Burbank, Ca. And how easy is it to change out my brake system to manual brakes. I have disc brakes in the front and Drums in the rear. Question: what would you charge me to change out my brake system to manual. 😊🙏🏽👍.

[@Rambo454]

You’re gonna get a good leg workout pressing those new brakes but just like with no power steering, you can actually feel what the car is doing better and are more in control.

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Yes haha! The pedal is not as hard as I would have imagined...feels like a modern car's pedal

[@son_of_stan_lee]

Another Mustang upgrade check. What s the next upgrade, Ben? Can t wait to see it😁😁🙌🙏

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks for watching! Maybe a battery relocation to the trunk???

[@son_of_stan_lee]

@@FourSpeedFilms Great idea

[@curthall4096]

Pretty Cool Build! Save Yourself some Heartache and get Rid of the Crappy Firestone Wide Oval! Tires!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Thanks…they are radials

[@iyaoyas9225]

Probably a stupid question, but I’m trying to switch over to manual brakes. Can I use the wilwood master cylinder with stock brakes or do I need wilwood brakes with the master cylinder? I plan on upgrading in the future, but I’m not getting much vacuum.

[@OnlineResell]

I lost the response from when you replied to me before but what steering wheel do you have?

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Moon eyes👍🏼

[@toddbob55]

BTW I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BRO

[@firebreathinggarage2117]

Nothing like brake fluid on the paint. Lesson learned.

[@samrotolo7303]

I am really curios about the seat belts over the shoulder. How do you have that rigged up?

[@Dave-ru2qh]

Please list all the part numbers that you use to get your Wilwood brake system to work. The web has to much confecting info. My brake are to unsafe to drive the car.

[@cjean398]

Im getting ready to throw a manual reservoir on my 67 due to motor not making enough vaccum and also i hate the bulkyness of space it take up. question my car is 4 wheel disc brake at the moment with the granada front disc swap, and 8.8 ford explorer rear end disc brakes, do I need to run any specific calipers to make this work?

[@ghuye1711]

What paint did you use on your dash/doors. Have to repaint mine and I’m digging the almost matte/satin look?..

[@jamesrankin9833]

Good stuff!

[@TheRareCriticalThinker]

Do you have a video installing your RPM guage?

[@alejandrorellana350]

Is better manual wilwood than power brakes wilwood?. I cant understand.

[@atisjudins5016]

Ben where did you buy that plate? Nice video!

[@FourSpeedFilms]

Stock