Fox 35 Stunt - 1951 - Will it Run?

[@jeffpittel6926]

Looks like the perfect engine for an old Ringmaster.

[@m1t2a1]

Used a Fox 35 on a stunt plane in the early 70s. It was quite a step up from an 049. There were a few of us, even grown ups! Piles of fun cutting streamers too. I was 11ish. I'm the reason you can't fly control line planes in most school yards. Still have the motor, but now I fly R/C.

[@xKmotx]

Thanks for the comment. :) I flew my Cox P-40 in schoolyards, and I remember before then the Cox PT-19's being used in practically every school yard. I flew mine well into Jr. High school in wide open school yards. Today, school yards look like prison yards. Such a shame. So sad how things have gone.

[@m1t2a1]

@@xKmotx My old P.S. still has 3 ball diamonds, a soccer field, playground, a toboggan hill, and trees. Suburbs, eh. When I was there 75 kids a year moved from grade 6 to the next school. Now it's 20. So much space to not be able to fly in. Partly because of me. A set of monkey bars there ate my first r/c plane. Balsa and tissue everywhere. The monkey bars are still there. In 76, so I was 14. Let's not forget Estes model rockets! How to get the police at your door... Attach a Roman candle to a model rocket. Once used a rocket assisted takeoff. Wrecked a Cox Spitfire and Mustang before it worked on a P-40. In the long run you are correct. The good times are over. I wish a buck was still silver.

[@xKmotx]

@@m1t2a1 🤣🤣🤣

[@davelowets]

A chicken stick, and then anelectric starter?? Uh-ahh, nope, just get your fingers right in there and get 'er fired up... 😜 Nice little vintage engine.

[@xKmotx]

🤣🤣

[@davelowets]

@@xKmotx 🍻

[@philmann3476]

@@davelowets As a young man in the 60s, chicken sticks were for...well, chickens. Wear those cuts on the back of your fingers with pride. Sort of the middle-class American kid's version of dueling scars at Heidelberg.

[@chrisheggie952]

So good to see/hear this! I have an almost identical Fox 35 I bought new in '78, the only difference I can ascertain being mine has mounts for a muffler cast into the exhaust but mine looks equally as crusty as yours. It was a fabulous motor in the day but very sensitive to throttle position. I learnt to set it too lean before takeoff because the centrifugal forces in flight would pressure feed the fuel and it would run too rich. I've been wanting to get mine going again for about forty years...

[@KathrynLiz1]

I remember them well.....the 35 was a favourite of C/L aerobatic flyers. We used to set up the tank just right and run the engine very rich in level flight and as soon as you pulled a manoever the engine would lean out and give the power for the vertical bits. The Fox was particularly good at this for some reason. I am not surprised that your old one still runs OK...they were pretty bullet proof and never seemed to wear out.... good metallurgy. Fox engines always looked 'different', but they always did what they were supposed to. The last one I had was a '40', a later design that was quite surprisingly powerful. I was recently given a K&B 'Stallion'... a bit later than the Fox but a very similar concept, a light, rugged plain bearing 35 that gained quite a good rep back in their day. I have not run this one as I don't have my gear any more, but the compression is perfect so I don't think it has had much use. I always like control line, it's not too expensive and a lot of fun... of course we never ran mufflers back in the day, the noise was all part of it. I still have one or two other engines about the place. An Oliver Tiger 2.5 the Mk3 and also a "Cub" from the same maker in Dorset, UK... both were top racing engines in their day. I started my career in C/L back in 1954 in the UK..... I was 12 then.... long time ago, but the memories never leave you...

[@xKmotx]

Thank you for your very interesting background comments!

[@karltauschen9561]

Recently donated my 2 control line models to a fellow who collects legacy toys. One was a P51-Mustang w/ a K&B .29R. The other was a CIRCUS KING with an ENYA .35. Also gave him a box with several FOX .15 engines from my now-departed RINGMASTER JR., a FOX .19 & a FOX .35. I built these planes from about 1955 to 1962 & we flew them in the local school yard on the weekends, until the neighbors complained of the noise & the cops chased us. Don't know what happened to my Jim Walker U-Reely though .... got lost somewhere in the past 60+ years. Only engine I ever used a a thick leather glove to start was a McCoy 'Red Head' .60, because they had a distinct propensity to backfire. Using only fingers to start taught you quickness of mind / body control .... Also gave him some TOP FLITE wood propellers. Back then they stamped the price on the prop blade ..... 15¢. In the words of Maryann Faithful .... 'Those were the days my friend .... we thought they'd never end.'

[@donaldgrant9067]

Yep remember those days. Fox 35's, Macoy Red heads, KB's and the old cox 049's. Built many of the airplanes like the Nobler, the Ring Master and wings. Even built a few Gallows stringer models into control line aircraft. A Newport 11 and a Dougles Dive Bomber. Fun times. Even did stunts like figure 8's wing over and upside down. Even tried to keep the aircraft on only half the circle.

[@wade70072]

Got the same motor. Bought New when I was 13, 1969. Put it on a Nobler. A little over power, but ooo lala. 65 years old and still got it.

[@xKmotx]

That's awesome! 🙂

[@donaldgrant9067]

Funny I did that myself. The Nobler was made for a 25 to a 29 and modified it to a 35. It screamed like a banshee until the "up" control rod broke. And crash. Good times.

[@vicman4170]

Good thing you got it this late in life. No way you had that much patience as a kid.

[@xKmotx]

Ha ha ha, I would have poured glue on it and set it on fire! 🤣

[@Jimmyzb36]

yes no electric starter back then.

[@Larry-jv6he]

takes me back some years.have flew rc a lot with those. they be hard on fingers.lol been there done that.those were fun times with all my friends.thank you

[@xKmotx]

I have cut mine a few times too, lol. Thanks for commenting!

[@farklefuster6876]

Fox 35’s like to be started WET. My starting procedure is as follows.; Prime with enough fuel to fill the exhaust port. Connect the battery. Choke with two or three turns until you get a bump . If it doesn’t start within four propeller flips, something else is wrong.

[@jackbn9353]

I flew one of these in a Ringmaster in the 1950s. Purchased it used from Gilbert's Hobby Shop (long gone now) in Gettysburg, PA.

[@thomasdobbs9001]

I have 9 Fox 35s all run and 3 are on U-Control planes, 2 are over 30 years old, I have been in this Hobby since 1954, I am 80 years old😅

[@leeoldershaw956]

I flew stunt Fox 35 and 29 for several years in the early "50's. They were easy to start, durable and more powerful than equivalent displacement Ohlssons and K & Bs.

[@chiloschista]

I miss this feeling, noise, smell and oily hands managing nitro motors 😀

[@xKmotx]

You can live it again Ricc! 😉

[@chiloschista]

@@xKmotx Yes indeed, I have to bring out something, maybe just try to fire the Wankel I finally found last year 😃

[@philmann3476]

And the minor nicks and cuts on the back of the fingers, which we'd wear with pride. No chicken sticks for any self-respecting young guy back in the day. (It was our version of dueling scars at Heidelberg.)

[@leonardgucciardo8386]

Remember flying u-control on a ringmaster with these engines. I still have many of them from the 60’s including marine engines

[@charliebryson1285]

Ive got a brand new one, still in the box

[@orlandonostagiafever1964]

I got two of those they were stuck got them to work great engines.

[@xKmotx]

Awesome! 👍

[@davelowets]

Yep. That ole Castor oil gums up over time, and can lock an engine up right tight. Splash a little new fuel around it, and in it, and they usually loosen right back up. Unless it's covered with rust inside..

[@dingnextstop]

Wow… takes me back to 1960’s when I flew control line models and single channel radio..! I couldn’t afford Fox engines so used Cox or ED… also dabbled in Jetex motors! eg Atom 35/50 , I built a balsa/ tissue RN Buccaneer aircraft and slung the Atom 35 underneath, first flight I lit the fuse and off she went… perfect climb and then burst into flames!! I forgot to apply the asbestos sheet under motor! then again I was only 10 years old 😊

[@xKmotx]

What a great story! lol... Thanks for commenting!

[@BillyG869]

You can see no fuel in line

[@stanarmstrong1301]

Runs pretty well for how old it is. Should be a good match for a control line kit.

[@garvinhooper]

I started with free flight back in 1951 and then later to RC

[@alisteeaiken7667]

I used to use my fingers to turn it over, that's where the bruises came from

[@davidhill5621]

Looks like powermaster fuel, ive got an old fox 35 looks just like that one ,she runs good its got a tapered needle valve in it im not sure if it came that way or if somebody did that to it but runs fabulous , if hard to start check back plate for leaks

[@xKmotx]

Yes it is Powermaster. Been a fan of that brand fuel for decades. I added a little bit extra castor oil just for this old engine. 🙂

[@mariodelgado9729]

Just found three of them, now I got to fire them up, wish me luck!

[@xKmotx]

Best of luck! :) Use fuel with castor oil. These old engines relied on it back in the day.

[@mariodelgado9729]

@@xKmotx Yes I got some SIG's 5 % plus I will ad a little more castor.

[@xKmotx]

@@mariodelgado9729 Perfect! :)

[@mariodelgado9729]

@@xKmotx Just one question, where was the sweet spot on the needle setting? I seem to have two types of needles two flat and one regular round type.

[@xKmotx]

@@mariodelgado9729 Oh gee, I did not take notes. And I disassembled and cleaned the engine after shooting this video. So I don't remember if I counted the needle turns at that time. But I just went and counted it now, and it is open 3 1/4 from closed.

[@johnhess351]

outstanding, but not in full song. It will go faster.

[@xKmotx]

I was afraid to lean it out. Didn't want to break anything on this old trooper.

[@AndyWGreen]

Not a good idea to use a starter on a plain bearing motor but nice to see it running.

[@xKmotx]

I know that, but I did not care. I did not plan on ever using it. I just wanted to see if it would start "as is", crust and all, which it did and required the electric starter to get it done. Afterward it was cleaned and put in a display case, never to be run again.

[@Javier-b9f5d]

Fox Engines Rule

[@BansheeFifteen]

Yeah, put that on a Ringmaster.

[@BansheeFifteen]

I know a guy who had a Ringmaster with a Fox 35 and he could fly the pattern with it. Also a Carl Goldberg Shoestring, Buster or Cosmic Wind would be good ideas.. I have a few Foxs, I bet with minimal work I could get one running. It's timeless.

[@JohnSaylock-ec4cd]

I had a ,19 on my R.M. flew great

[@TamaraPapp-o1i]

Have 3 ringmasters. These fly good on 10% nitro. Always use my fingers to start. Also he needs to clock prop at 2 o'clock on compression

[@TamaraPapp-o1i]

They fly good on a voodoo too

[@neilaldenarmstrong9806]

I have three of those, and I make my own fuel, same formula as ye olde Fox fuel. Lubrication is castor oil, not that pink synthetic swill that is used today. The engine willl run better as well.

[@rogerw584]

Get some low nitro and high castor oil fuel if you want it to last.

[@lucvb9379]

my bird day 1951 👍👍👍

[@aloisiolisboaafonseca2156]

Eu tive vários Fox 35 muito bom

[@haroldbrown1998]

COOL.

[@markshepperd9377]

I just got 5 of them a Mccoy & the guy I got them from says he got the planes too....I'm getting them this week

[@BlažPetrinčič]

They use to make them to last...

[@xKmotx]

Yes, they did. This one is proof, 😊

[@Tomc528]

I don't think I could spin in circles like I used to with falling

[@xKmotx]

lol... at my age I risk falling just walking a straight line! 😂

[@Tomc528]

@xKmotx just found my fox35 still in the box with paper work but missing part of the needle valve. It's a little stiff but thanks to ebay I ordered a new valve and am gonna start it just for my neighbors to enjoy. Thanks

[@xKmotx]

@@Tomc528 Awesome!!

[@antoniodigigov3102]

Eu tive um em 72

[@migueldariosilva1183]

Yo tenía un Mc Coy 35!

[@migueldariosilva1183]

Varios 0;49 Cox y un Diesel FROG Inglés.

[@donaldgrant9067]

Had those too. Great engine, but wasn't as fast as the Fox.

[@oliverbowen17]

Prime it

[@xKmotx]

Okay

[@Gusst210]

Perso j' en ai eu deux vraiment des moteurs d'acro couple important et régime 10 ....12000 trm Mais dommage vilebrequin sur palier lisse . pas de roulement et assez rapidement ils fuyaient par le palier du vilebrequin et devenaient capricieux...donc sur les deux j' avais usine des paliers bronze et ils faisaient un ou deux ans de plus .... J' ai I même eu un fox 15 2,5 cc Merveilleux petit moteur avec lui j'ai appris a piloter il était monté sur un " bleu Pant " . de Henri Stouff en 1970 et j'ai tourne mes premiers loopings et vole dos .....!! Merveilleux souvenirs avec mon père. Qui m'a appris.....le V.C.C Il nous a quitté en 2011 salut papa

[@xKmotx]

outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=3491 ¡Fantástico! ¡Gracias por tus comentarios!

[@TamaraPapp-o1i]

I have several of these and all run. I use 2 fingers not a chicken stick.lol. I also have a .29 and a .59. Still fly control line today

[@donaldgrant9067]

Anything else but finger is just cheating. LOL