Fox Float X & DHX | How to Upgrade with Low Speed Compression Knob

[@TheLostCo]

These are almost always on backorder due to high demand and low supply from Fox, but sign up for a stock alert email on our website so you know exactly when we get more - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly

[@SourPatchPuss]

I guarantee Fox doesn’t love this video being posted, but I sure do 😂

[@gabrielrobatel2332]

You should use a small zip tie to push the cylinders in simultanously

[@TheLostCo]

Nice trick! We'll try that next time 😀

[@jburgoyne3549]

I was going to suggest the same. Beat me to it! 🙂

[@ChrisBicycleRepair]

I was thinking that same thing

[@bilalexl]

Yep, I use zip tie and it took me exactly 10 minutes for the whole process. Didn’t even take the shock from the bike

[@Cathail-l7d]

Who is this man? Has albert einstine reserected to flex in comment sections

[@billderas3420]

Yes...While pushing the plastic cap off, I knocked one of the springs onto the floor. Took me 30 minutes to find that sucker! Suggest placing all those tiny parts into a magnetic tray for safe storage and work from there. Also, after taking off the plastic cap, I suggest that you initially look at the orientation of the specially shaped shaft to the new blue LSC knob and remember what number on the knob was the default position. On my 2023 Specialized Levo SL, it was the "7" setting. I currently have mine set to "8" now. Hope this helps!

[@killgates9890]

Thansk, wondered this

[@bobwyattfpv9847]

Ah. The sense of relief as the top snaps on. Awesome guys thank you. Fitted and running smooooooth ✌🏻

[@pbls43]

You can use a plastic tire lever,it will not scratch the shock

[@DayInTheLifeOfAl]

You are the only person on the planet that I would allow to work on my bike. Genius!

[@txwilliam23]

I just got mine and it took literally 5 minutes to do. Thanks for the video it was super easy to follow

[@antn8387]

really glad you made this video for the 2022 float X. I couldn't source an OEM fox knob kit, so I bought a 3D printed knob off ebay. Works great!

[@lars_atx]

when depressing the pegs, would a small ziptie work to depress all 4 at once? very good walkthru of process.

[@KeoOutdoors]

The zip tie trick worked for me

[@Ah022]

If only the kit was ever in stock anywhere.

[@k1ng617]

I have a DHX on my new Capra and I just adjusted my LSC w/o the kit. Pop the cap off and twist the metal tear drop piece carefully with the smallest pair of needle nose pliers you have. It's very fiddly to adjust, but if you just want to set it and forget it, you can do w/o the kit since its all sold out everywhere.

[@Ah022]

@@k1ng617 yeah, I did the same with my float x. Just wouldn’t mind having to knob. But honestly just going to get a vivid and that’ll solve all the problems.

[@KeoOutdoors]

My local shop just got a handfull in

[@huhupoklop5970]

I would like just to mention, that is very rare for such a dude as Alex to have 5 balls. But its nice touch! ..even the one is a bit smaller

[@zebbenbrown1301]

Worked flawlessly. Took a few attempts to set the cap and get the pins lined up.

[@zebbenbrown1301]

@Rusted.rubbermann no you do not need to let the air out

[@TheNationalTrails]

Serious upgrade here. Will be making sure to add this whenever possible.

[@Shawn-in-da-Canyon]

This isn’t all together true. Just adding the knob will not give you enough adjustability to feel a difference. To get full adjustability, you need to upgrade the base valve. This was confirmed both by talking to a Fox shock technician and by installing it myself and getting no adjustability. And, I can feel the slightest adjustment change. Although, it’s worth it to get the pretty blue knob. In the end, I installed a new 2024 and now reliable X2. Its perfection!

[@WilliamrikerNCC1701]

Interesting. Anyone else able to confirm as well?

[@Tr_Fast]

Nope got a factory float x and performance float and they both change equally ish and they both have the same stump jumper tune

[@TheLostCo]

After a lot of research into this topic, and speaking with techs at Fox, we have found that the Base Valve tune doesn't depend on whether the LSC knob is present or not. There are some base valve tunes, called Bleed-Valve versions, that have more Low-Speed forgiveness built into them than non-bleed versions. The Non-Bleed base valve tunes will inherently have a more easily perceived feel to the adjustment. And if your shock has a Bleed tune on the BV, then you can certainly change the tune, but this will also change the ride characteristics and overall feel. The bike-specific tunes do not have differences in this base valve tune for Performance vs Factory. Fox has also published an engineering drawing for the NON-LSC version of the shock, showing the 4 positions that the plastic knob can be oriented to to achieve the different LSC adjustment. This further indicates that even the plastic black placeholder cap still adjusts the LSC throughout its range. This is about all I can say that's clear and to the point for this! -Alex

[@hakonmyklebust2432]

@@TheLostCo the frustrating part is that if you talk to different FOX techs they give different answers. To check this i contacted FOX US east and west coast techsenters directly, and they gave totally different ansvers. One said you do not need to change the Bleed Valve to get LSC, the otherone said you most definetly had to. So pretty hoples..

[@toreTJ]

I have the same experience. Adding the button does next to nothing. This is on a 2023 Levo

[@Cathail-l7d]

Very good tutorial and great added detail thank you so much

[@RickyDownhillRDH]

Ahhhh man. I watched this blurry edit and got all excited. Went to your website and you're sold out!! :(

[@KeoOutdoors]

I used a car interior trim lever to pry off the cap. It's plastic and has 2 area of contact

[@jburgoyne3549]

I like the pliers concept. Slightly grip the cap and pull straight up!

[@lamps_mtb]

Just did this, worked perfectly. Thanks

[@71jsteele]

This is great, I was just reading about it last night.

[@uerkental]

Thank you for the video! Super easy to do🤙

[@84bish]

Great video just done mine after watching this 👍

[@KB-gu2sc]

Worked great, thank you for the video!

[@welersonqueiroz3214]

Hello good afternoon! Do I have a question? I bought a bike that came with the FOX FLOAT Could you tell me if these shock and suspension models are compatible with remote locking on the handlebars? Is it possible to install?

[@justinh7099]

Hell.... Yes..... Love these hacks

[@TheLawlbreaker]

1:33 Does this upgrade really bring the shock up to Elite level? Are there other differences?

[@TheLostCo]

There are no other differences! This is one of the best deals in mountain biking, and we're stoked that Fox made this upgrade possible -Tor

[@alanmudge1781]

Good DIY video. When I pushed the blue knob down, one of the spring and bearing assemblies popped completely out so now the knob is on, but only three of the four assemblies are in place. Do you know the function of these? It still seems to turn fine in both directions. I guess it's possible but I have not been able to remove the blue knob to start over.

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

Nice. I just ordered one. So, you don't use the smallest bearing? And does the number orientation matter when installing the top cap?

[@Hobbiemtbrider]

Use a small cable tie to hold the tiny cylinders then seat the cup n cut the zip tie

[@paoloc.6726]

Thank you guys for the nice work. So, if I got it right, at the end you have a fifth ball that you won’t use. Correct? And most important: how many clicks is the standard settings, the one you find defined at the factory? I mean, something like 5 clicks out of 10 or so? Thank you

[@DL-iq5zo]

Was also wondering if the smaller fifth ball was needed.

[@MTBUPGRADES]

Just did this "hack" Was super easy, got it first time exactly how it was shown in this video no zip ties required. Makes it heaps easier being able to concentrate and not have to do it whilst explaining how it's done 😉 Thank you @Thelostco

[@evanmolyneaux]

Hi, thanks for the great videos. Is there a tuning resource for the HSC on these shocks? Mine feels harsh and have trouble getting through the travel as a 145lb rider, despite having only a 0.2 token in there. I suspect the damper is tuned for a heavier rider from the factory. Perhaps you can weigh in. Thanks!

[@WilliamrikerNCC1701]

I’ve wondered if this was possible on my Dhx coil, so it’s awesome to see that it is and how to do it. Thx.

[@Mtb_Explore]

he says that's the same as float x

[@k1ng617]

I have a DHX on my new Capra and I just adjusted my LSC w/o the kit. Pop the cap off and twist the metal tear drop piece carefully with the smallest pair of needle nose pliers you have. It's very fiddly to adjust, but if you just want to set it and forget it, you can do w/o the kit since its all sold out everywhere.

[@WilliamrikerNCC1701]

@@k1ng617 Did you notice a difference in feel? Someone else posted on here that this didn't affect much, etc, but I find it hard to believe the lost co would put out this vid out if it didn't work, AND that fox would run some different internals yet cap the adjustment piece.

[@eddyledezma8811]

Thanks, went in like butter, 👍 👌

[@eddyledezma8811]

@Rusted.rubbermann no

[@KeoOutdoors]

I was about to make a similar video, just got my kit yesterday

[@jakestephen508]

Great video. Does the adjuster really make a difference? I’ve heard mixed things on the forums.

[@edwarddavis7415]

Is it possible to upgrade from a 2 to a 3 position compression lever?

[@kentb3175]

I've done this and used a cable (zip) tie, simple.

[@dirtyktm]

OK So I just did this with Fox Float X Performance that came stock on my 2024 Pivot Switchblade. I'm thinking it doesn't really do anything because the Knob simply just spins around. It was actually a pretty easy procedure as shown and I had already pulled the cap off when I first got the bike. I don't recall if the adjuster came to a stop before. Have not ridden with the mod since I just did this

[@garya1728]

I just ordered two of these kits and should have them in a week or so. I'll let you know how mine works out. By looking at the instructions Fox has on their website for this kit, it appears the cap has a groove cut on the inside that the smaller ball bearing rides in but the groove doesn't go all the way around so the adjuster cap should stop if the cap is fully seated and the ball bearing is in place.

[@sunless1215]

My friend's been looking for that part for 2 years

[@clubtouge1052]

I got my kit off ebay from UK seller - in stock as of 1/1/24. We will see if it allows changes with stock shock tune on canyon AL spectral

[@clubtouge1052]

Install was easy! I got my cap off with a plastic tire lever, spoon end on the cap lip and kind if leveraged it off the upper shock mount. Popped off first go. The new adjuster is definitely noticable on my shock, I've read others say it does not work without a different internal tune

[@fallbackproductions]

I got mine on a from that well known online auction site. Has stock as of Dec 19th

[@johnireland3521]

I just don't get it. I've got a track. Why wouldn't they just put it on from the start if it's only cheap anyway? And will it make a big difference?

[@mradam4430]

Brilliant, thank you.

[@Emtbtoday]

My float X on my new cube came with this blue dial ony 2023 cube 160 I got on Saturday im trying to work out the suspension settings not sure if it's the same shock it's the gold coated one so suppose you can call it an upgrade kit now since fox doing it themselves on new bikes

[@JoshuaDomoslai]

Thats the float x factory edition with the gold kashima coating. Basically the top level version.

[@Dedmuus]

I printed my knob. Now I've got a Patrick star LSC knob

[@natewhitaker6791]

Wanna make me one? lol

[@jackysfilmstudio]

It’s in stock now at WorldWide Cyclery

[@CM9999999999]

Is there a similar hack for a performance series x2?

[@ChrisBicycleRepair]

It’s Alex!

[@gofras]

Yeah, you get the pretty knob but sadly, no adjustability. I did just that on my Trance X 29r 1. Rotating the knob has literally zero effect on the LSC. Worth the hassle if you're aiming at a nicer looking setup but that's pretty much it.

[@JamesRoth]

Yay I did it!

[@jaredrude431]

It would be nice if these were actually available. I've been trying to buy this knob for two years and its always out of stock everywhere.

[@TheLostCo]

I wish they were available, too! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@pabloduque6723]

does it make a good diferences when you upgrade it ?

[@romma11]

and the big question is, do you really need it ? seems like it is preset in one position. Also, without doing it myself yet, where is the 5th ball - it is unclear to me and what does it do ?

[@daballztickler]

5th ball is in case you loose one i believe

[@angellnathan]

Does this need to be done on a non pressured shock or doesn't it matter if there is air in it or not?

[@aidanshmaden69]

doesn't matter if it has air or not

[@WannaJumpBikes]

When installing the adjuster, how many turns does the tear drop in the shock need to be from open or closed before you seat the adjuster

[@aidanshmaden69]

you can install it in any position.

[@WannaJumpBikes]

@aidanshmaden69 how do you know if the setting its on matches up with the knob. I've turned my eyedrop many ways one direction no knowing where its supposed to be set from factory

[@aidanshmaden69]

@@WannaJumpBikes The knob can only go on one way. thats why its tear drop shaped. the knob doesnt do anything but make it easier to turn the adjuster shaft.

[@WannaJumpBikes]

@@aidanshmaden69 nice one 👍

[@EdAllen-g6l]

Not true. There is an arrow on the right side of the shock that is used to match the numbers. You turn the adjuster rod fully closed and line up the lowest number with the arrow before pushing the cap all the way on. The adjuster obviously still works but the numbers are arbitrary without a reference point.

[@stefannantz]

Read video , Coul you do one on the remote leaver install please

[@stevied653]

I’m from the UK and these conversion kits are in abundance on eBay for around £30

[@hendrikdrossel9917]

Thanks mate

[@ShadLife]

What a pain in the #$@! 😂 Any idea when more of these kits will become available?

[@TheLostCo]

We got 50 in stock today that were on backorder for 2 months. They sold out in a matter of minutes 😯 No exact ETA as of now, but we have tons on backorder. If you haven't already, sign up for the back in stock alert on our site and race to the computer when you get an email notification! thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@duncandoughnuts_za]

Why is 10 the least amount of compression and 1 the most ? its opposite of the rebound ?

[@robertcampbell201]

Quick and easy-didn't have to take the shock off the bike (Rocky Mtn Altitude). Thanks for the video. Found a kit on Ebay... more than $25, however.

[@rockstertv_offiziell]

THX!

[@porroco]

Just and advace take the cap of the shock first then open the bag, easily the screw can fall on the table, shock or cap can slip and say bye to those small parts bearing and springs

[@JoshuaDomoslai]

Purchased 2 3d printed knobs off eBay for $7 each as I have two of these shocks. Both were crap and fell off instantly. I don’t recommend 3D printed versions.. Found the oem knob in stock from worldwide. The first shock it literally fell in place by pressing down in seconds. The second shock gave me a bit more hassle but overall was pretty simple.

[@louiscvs2126]

It is possible to remove the blue knob?

[@garya1728]

I believe if when you install the blue adjuster cap, make sure the small pin holes on the side of the cap align with the 4 pin locations and you'll be able to. You'll just have to "MacGyver" some sort of tool to push the pins in all at once and the cap can be removed.

[@FoundHarpy438]

Anything you can screw up majorly by attempting this?

[@applicablerobot]

Well I did it without pulling the shock - had to chase down springs for half an hour. Turns out the gap between crankarm and frame can capture a spring

[@alfou996]

Thank you, received the kit today and will install it soon, however in Europe is not as cheap as in the US... 35€ here😅

[@SpykeHellboy]

Hi, where did you get it from? I wanted to buy this also but could not find one.

[@alfou996]

@@SpykeHellboy Bike Discount

[@SpykeHellboy]

@@alfou996 i did a quick search fork accessories and cannot find it :(

[@Storm-Mastering]

@@alfou996Do you have a link ? I don't seem to find it there.

[@alfou996]

@@Storm-Mastering it's usually out of stock, you gotta check frequently the website

[@kevinlewis4846]

Nice work through video👍. I would also suggest a cable (zip) tie. Not sure about the defaced Black Sabbath shirt

[@josephscheneck1540]

Thanks for the video! I've added my email to the "notify me when available" list on your site. :-)

[@thomasc2246]

Tank you :

[@chrisracer2007]

Can you do the same on the fork?

[@oldgit4285]

Depends on the fork but generally I think it's a whole damper change

[@TheLostCo]

No, this is only applicable to the Float X and DHX rear shocks. The forks function totally different. -Mike

[@fredEVOIX]

nice tutorial...funny how no shop has those parts available but there are hundreds on ebay...remind me of my other hobby pc gaming and how nvidia RTX 3000 graphic cards did the same...turns out it wasn't private customers automated bot buying or whatever no it was manufacturers "grey market" selling their products on ebay rather than regular retail shops for max profits I smell the same thing here anyway thank you very much the bike I wanted is end of line (2023) and I might have to get the model below which doesn't have the blue knob on rear shock

[@05GDF]

Sold out 🙃

[@TheLostCo]

Yep! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@toofancy83]

I’ve been looking for one of these kits for 3 months worldwide and they are sold out everywhere. 😢

[@TheLostCo]

I know, it's ridiculous! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@51249ca]

100% success rate of 1 sample

[@andrewoliverguy]

Good info good video to be fair it was a doddle lol😅😅😅

[@marklegkun59]

Fun fact, the plastic cap does turn for compression adjustment, but you only have 4 total positions.

[@topchoice1621]

The original plastic cap on the shock?

[@marklegkun59]

@@topchoice1621 yes sir

[@marklegkun59]

@@topchoice1621 you’ll see a small “notch” type engraving on the top of the plastic cap, when it’s pointing towards the shock, it’s open. Rotating it clockwise will adjust compression. When you take the cap off you can also see that “teardrop” shape on the underside of the cap, so it is in fact spinning the compression.

[@topchoice1621]

@@marklegkun59 yes I see what you’re talking about but it’s kind of hard to turn I’ll just leave it alone for now I’m pretty much satisfied with how my suspension feels lol thanks for the help though

[@rezenclowd3]

@@topchoice1621 Correct, you have to remove the plastic cap to turn it to any of the other 3 positions as the moulding where the detent is acts as a hard stop for all 4 positions, where with the metal cap, it is machined to allow 1 rotation.

[@porroco]

Pins prob a ziptied will help

[@adamgrosman5615]

can i do a fork like fox 36 performance?

[@TheLostCo]

No, this is only applicable to the Float X and DHX rear shocks. The forks function totally different. -Mike

[@adamgrosman5615]

Thanks Mike.@@TheLostCo

[@tonytorrance636]

These kits seem to be sold out everywhere.

[@TheLostCo]

They are! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@goldier74]

Nice! Does this work with Float X2 as well?

[@jamesdomenico2953]

Cool video, but you cannot find this knob anywhere. I have been looking for over a month now.

[@TheLostCo]

They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@meteormedia7021]

Except that the parts aren't available anywhere.

[@TheLostCo]

True! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@setransou]

Great so where can I buy one?….. oh, out of stock EVERYWHERE

[@faultlinegravel]

that video was kind of hard to watch because of the constant blurry transitioning

[@xflow]

That's because Mike's the camera man 😂

[@TheLostCo]

My bad! I'm not exactly a cinematographer. Haha. -Mike

[@TheLostCo]

@@Jacob99174 Dan worked at a different shop 🙂

[@93Tillinfini]

It was still perfectly captured how to do this. You’re just complaining for no good reason.

[@mactheknife74]

Moaners always moaning 😢

[@LEL7567-ABCDEF]

bro my cheap marzocchi coil has lsc

[@jockardl]

This is so easy tf

[@FINNdeischgut]

Why do these performance versions even exist? They are not cheaper to produce, but are still installed on inexpensive bikes. Why would a bike brand go to Fox and say "I want an OEM version of the Performance Elite that is built exactly the same but with a non-functional LSC adjuster"? This is so stupid.

[@tristatetrifecta]

not worth it!!! I did it.. And it made no difference. In order to get the benefit you need the shim stack ( internals). also the easy way is the use a small zip tie to hold the indents in.

[@tjay_mac]

This has been sold out.

[@TheLostCo]

Yep, they're constantly on backorder. They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@dsgearandgadgets]

Does absolutely nothing in my shock. Wish I read the comments earlier

[@KB-gu2sc]

Right, but part is unavailable. Great video otherwise))

[@TheLostCo]

Yep, unfortunately, they are almost always on backorder! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@garybrown5769]

Camera man please increase your f/ stop ffs Everything in life doesn’t need to be shallow depth of field

[@TheLostCo]

My bad! I'm not exactly a cinematographer. Haha. -Mike

[@pernyberg2816]

Holy cow. That camera "work" made me all dizzy 😂

[@TheLostCo]

My bad, I'm not exactly a cinematographer. Haha. -Mike

[@bl4ckde]

Wish it would be 25 bucks... about 50 dollars in germany...

[@robertstrobel7338]

You do realize thay these kits are not available, at all, ever, anywhere.

[@TheLostCo]

Yep, unfortunately, they are almost always on backorder! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@ruvimtrofimovich]

Annnnnd still out of stock everywhere

[@TheLostCo]

Yep, unfortunately, they are almost always on backorder! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@robertovital9369]

out of stock...

[@TheLostCo]

Yep, unfortunately, they are almost always on backorder! They are in very high demand and low supply from Fox. You can sign up for a stock alert email for these on our website - thelostco.com/products/fox-float-x-dhx-low-speed-compression-adjuster-assembly -Mike

[@shredwithscott]

Seems like a pretty stupid thing to save money on, the adjuster is there, Fox only saved $ on the knob.

[@applicablerobot]

Product segmentation is often somewhat nonsensical, and typically obnoxious

[@tonytorrance636]

It forces you to spend more money on other things you don’t need.

[@ulrikerdland]

But never in stock🤷‍♂️