What Defines Blackness? - On The 7 With Dr. Sean

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@Tolutaiwoworship
@Tolutaiwoworship 5 жыл бұрын
As Black British Nigerian women I couldn't disagree more with my Nigerian sister on the panel she speaks with such ignorance, I am shocked that people live in this world yet they are so blind and do not have a well rounded perspective, I don't even live in the US and I can see that the Black Lives matter movement is needed because to the average white american the Black life is worthless. I grew up in Europe and have traveled around the world, I can see the blatant oppression of Black people all around me. We need to take a stand!!! don't ever get it twisted we are still oppressed and we must fight and pray every day to free the next generation.
@ultrainstinctmastered2031
@ultrainstinctmastered2031 5 жыл бұрын
No such thing as a Black British. You're Nigerian British. Blacks are an American Ethnic group
@sylviaashby3775
@sylviaashby3775 5 жыл бұрын
Thats right sista you go girl
@frenchgirl753
@frenchgirl753 5 жыл бұрын
@@ultrainstinctmastered2031 You can be Black and British wtf are you talking about? British is a nationality, she can very well be a Black British woman.
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
Ultra Instinct Mastered no they’re not your fool😂 African Americans fail to realise that slavery happened in Britain, Latin America and Caribbean. Colonisation also happened in Africa, which was longer than slavery and broke down a whole economy. They also don’t realise that only 6% of African were taken to the USA😂😂
@tahamenepark
@tahamenepark 4 жыл бұрын
@Mocha Brown no she's not English but u can be black British
@MrQuinnProperPropertyManager
@MrQuinnProperPropertyManager 3 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the most informative videos I’ve ever seen! I love all the perspectives and how everyone had their own opinion on matters! Great job to the host, who brought out challenging topics and follow-up questions to engage the conversation!
@warrenshuttles9717
@warrenshuttles9717 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful convo, growing up I always fought against the classification of “African American”. I always felt that our cultures were very different.
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 5 жыл бұрын
Warren Shuttles , we are aboriginal black Americans
@swatkins67
@swatkins67 4 жыл бұрын
GWorld7 D oh lord
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 4 жыл бұрын
Swatkins1800 ,oh Lord what! If you knew anything, you would have known blacks been in the Americans for thousands of years, not 1619.
@thecraplordsell4575
@thecraplordsell4575 4 жыл бұрын
@@gworld7d60 idiot lol
@s.o.6486
@s.o.6486 5 жыл бұрын
The Belizean lady doesn't get it. She said black people "no longer remained oppressed." She sees herself as not being oppressed b/c her family chose to come the USA were they don't live with the cost of 400 years of accrued and compounded disadvantage of being an American Descendant of Slavery. Immigrating to America as a black person no matter what country they left is not the same experience as being an American black person (ADOS). New York ADOS needs to set a solid boundary and stop letting Dominicans, Belizeans et. al. use the n-word. It's also ironic the Ms. Joseph is an immigrant rights activist. If she was a true ally of ADOS she would know that immigration has been the final in the coffin of ADOS in terms of economics, erasure, etc. She's black but not of ADOS lineage and does NOT share our experiences in America; she should have been pushed on that fact. The Nigerian lady is black when it's convenient. She is being completely disingenuous. All of the Nigerians I've met have always reminded me that they are Nigerian and don't identify with "you black Americans." I also want to know if the Nigerian woman is descended from a lineage that sold my ancestors into slavery.
@ultrainstinctmastered2031
@ultrainstinctmastered2031 5 жыл бұрын
That's because she isn't Black. Blacks are an American Ethnic group not a race of people
@brotherfirst4388
@brotherfirst4388 5 жыл бұрын
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@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 5 жыл бұрын
Black people in America never should have embraced Pan Africanism, instead they should have just focus on black issues here in the U.S.
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 4 жыл бұрын
Princip Mondesir , black Americans need to focus on us first, and if you have a problem with that, then that's you. I know black Americans history in this country way before 1619.
@asanteakan70
@asanteakan70 4 жыл бұрын
Princip Mondesir excaclty many of them descend from slave traders themselves they only know the Wikipedia basic history. Slave trading people were also sold into slavery. Just like a modern gang war or general war both sides can be victims and victors.
@nickyr3860
@nickyr3860 5 жыл бұрын
Most Black immigrants did not arrive to the United States before the 1980s. So just being Black in this country isn’t an equalizer as far as the overall Black experience in America is concerned. Its the same as if I moved to Nigeria. I’m going there and maintaining my identity as an a descendant of American Chattel Slavery. Yes the political environment would affect my day to day life; However, do I feel as emotionally invested in the historical why the politically environment is screwed up??! No, I just want everything to be conducive to my success in Nigeria, otherwise why be there? Just put yourselves in our shoes, this isn’t hard. And yes our experience is the predominant Black experience in this country in relation to time, culture, contribution, population etc. so miss me with any comments abt other Black experiences being discounted. These are our ancestral lands.
@blacksonrisenews3530
@blacksonrisenews3530 4 жыл бұрын
Research what was happening on the slave plantations when there were uprisings. Slaves were shipped to the Caribbean n to mainland Americas
@soraya.e5482
@soraya.e5482 4 жыл бұрын
So technically black immigrants aren’t black but they are black ( biologically) . I’ve been trying to explain this to people for a while but the guy with the fro explained it well.
@soraya.e5482
@soraya.e5482 4 жыл бұрын
Ryu Panther sounds like your pissed ... what did a Nigerian our preform you because that always seems to be the case.
@raymond110
@raymond110 4 жыл бұрын
Great post 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@bellaeagles8544
@bellaeagles8544 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@mac4022
@mac4022 4 жыл бұрын
This man's afro is spectacular!!!
@VinnyWilk
@VinnyWilk 4 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Asia for many years and anti-blackness is truly global.
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@melvinjackson4096 3 жыл бұрын
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@mekhibeckett7847 3 жыл бұрын
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@tiffanysmith2407
@tiffanysmith2407 4 жыл бұрын
It is a true disservice when American Descendants of Slavery are not on panels to discuss and represent our issues, especially as it pertains to Blackness in America. Both of the women were misinformed about the negative implications of chattel slavery, and yes, we are "oppressed".
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
Tiffany Smith Im sorry but chattel slavery also happened in Latin America, the Caribbean and Colonialism (worse than slavery and happened for longer) happened in Africa and destroyed a nation. Furthermore, chattel slavery MEANS JACK SHIT when it comes to the “black” experience not only in America but around the world. A dirty cop won’t hesitate to shoot at a black person just because his mum migrated to America 10 years ago. African Americans are so ignorant but I don’t blame you guys, I blame your education system.
@cvzdez
@cvzdez 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@cvzdez
@cvzdez 4 жыл бұрын
This Is the USA meeded a USA perspective
@viccha4318
@viccha4318 5 жыл бұрын
Blackness is political and cultural.
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
Aint...blacksness has to with race. Like i cant be asian because i was raised in an asian community
@queensboi1465
@queensboi1465 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackbeautytrending7032 But asaia is a geographical term.....black isn't......it's literary a shade not a race nor ethnicity.
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 4 жыл бұрын
@@queensboi1465 asia is geographical but it is also racial... people use the term to identify people from an particular area. The term does include ppl from india. Black is a race honey boo boo it just so happens to be a color also. And there is such a thing as black culture sweet heart.
@queensboi1465
@queensboi1465 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackbeautytrending7032 Sorry sis but you need to head back into the lab. The term "Black" is not a race but a legal categorization for political and social status in America. Black is not a race. A race is a species of people. There are the human race and the animal race in the animal kingdom. For black to be a race it must be a sovern body with it's connection to a body politic and considering that the united nations don't considered "black" to have their own independance or body politic it is not a race. For black to be a race or an ethnicity it would be attach to a land. The africans living in america (which are us) is not from any land called "black" we are from africa.
@queensboi1465
@queensboi1465 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackbeautytrending7032 Furthermore the term black was implemented when americas "founding fathers" suggested they used a system to categorized people as such. Giving european colonizers "white" because in african spirituality system such as "the bible" (when the colonizers used rhe bible to enslaved africans) white is depicted as being pure. Which we know there is no living creation that is "white" and they considered africans now african americans to be coined "black" because it represented sin and or death.
@ray1411
@ray1411 5 жыл бұрын
I could tell you’re a black immigrant (Belizean). Why do black immigrants think we do not know you’re not black American? Every group has standout features.
@soraya.e5482
@soraya.e5482 4 жыл бұрын
Rey S. The interviewer had asked first so why are so mad ? ....
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
@ Cause you don't pay attention. And also cause you probably don't look at these things. Like all the black people who were fooled that Dolezal was actually "black".
4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 most Black people can't anyone from the NAACP, so most didn't care. Many Nigerians look like AAs because they are mixed with Brits.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
@ Yeah, if they don't pay attention to features and accept the premise that anything or anyone can be "black" or that "blackness is political" (not racial). I don't, so much of the time I notice. It's pretty hard to know when you're looking at a half black half indian individual. But even with them I've learned to pick up on it
4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 I had no idea that JuJu Smith was half Samoan until he told his story. Some features of Black people and some Pacific Islanders are close so it is difficult to tell sometimes. Half Asian and half white sometimes look Mexican.
@princesscherry-top5989
@princesscherry-top5989 5 жыл бұрын
He really said that he don't think that everybody of African decent not black but he is ok with non-black Latinos saying the n-word simply because he from Harlem and Brooklyn? 🤔That's very ass backwards.
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
Princess Cherry-top EXACTLY
@gregoryglass9040
@gregoryglass9040 5 жыл бұрын
She can focused on being human all she wants too but the reality so she can but that is not how America tell her different
@kofitheakan9328
@kofitheakan9328 5 жыл бұрын
Being human is what we are as Africans, its just that the experience on this side of the world (as Black) for us and our ancestors have really left a bitter taste in our mouth.
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 5 жыл бұрын
martin campbell , we are not africans
@paconot
@paconot 5 жыл бұрын
@@kofitheakan9328 It left us poor not bitter.
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
Yea i thought that way as a child. Not an adult... but im a ADOS
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
GWorld7 D if you’re not African then your white because America was founded by Britain, Britain is in Europe and Europeans are white. So if you want to just identify as “American” go ahead WHITE MAN. Just know, to call yourself BLACK, you must be African (that includes Caribbean’s, Afro Latinx and AFRICAN AMERICANS)
@nakiadeonpresents6488
@nakiadeonpresents6488 4 жыл бұрын
I've yet to meet a nigerian that is down for the BLACK cause...unless its to get BLACK scholarships.
@simoneking1676
@simoneking1676 4 жыл бұрын
You are sooo right!
@makimoments
@makimoments 4 жыл бұрын
One of the creators of Black Lives Matter is of Nigerian descent
@makimoments
@makimoments 4 жыл бұрын
Opal Tometi
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
NakiaDeon Presents There are some. But for the most part they are pretty anti-black american. Them and Somalis. Two groups of africans with a seemingly anti-black sentiment. Keeping my eye out for all non-black americans that act like that. Dominicans too. Our biggests weaknees seems to be taking everyone in. Even if you want to claim everyone, you gotta at least have boundaries, and you gotta have standard
@teddybruscie
@teddybruscie 4 жыл бұрын
We all Black. We just not all Black the same.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
teddybruscie Well you gotta stop being black at some point, can't go on forever. Otherwise it just gets stupid. I draw the line at when you visibly look like another race or physically show signs of features from other races.
@teddybruscie
@teddybruscie 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 I'm going beyond looks. I'm talking culture. Specifically BLACK Americans. Descendants of Chattel Slavery in the United States. That's black culture here in America. So yea in America we all black. Just not black the same. Everybody wanna be a nigga but don't nobody wanna be a nigga.
@kofitheakan9328
@kofitheakan9328 5 жыл бұрын
Powerful episode.. a need to watch with family followed by discussions
@JennHayden
@JennHayden 5 жыл бұрын
I am reading between the lines. Dr. Sean's real question wasn't answered... African but not black. Don't try to be slick...he is talking about ADOS.....
@AS-lz6hp
@AS-lz6hp 5 жыл бұрын
Huh
@ultrainstinctmastered2031
@ultrainstinctmastered2031 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@JennHayden
@JennHayden 4 жыл бұрын
@@AS-lz6hp The guests pretended to be ignorant to what he asked. Dr. Sean was talking about the specific experience of ADOS.
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
you do realise that slaves were In BLACK SLAVES were in the Caribbean, Latin America, some parts of the UK for a while and ever heard of a thing called COLONISATION. I just find African Americans so ignorant. They want to act as if Africans have had it all easy and since they weren’t descended from chattel slavery that they were all free and peaceful and could get on with their everyday lives. Colonisation in some places was WORSE than slavery. In addition to that, the whole African Economy was destroyed when it was about to hit its peak, as a thriving economy. The term black should only stick as a biological factor and not be used as some “political” term only for African Americans because personally for me, I live in the UK and I know for a fact That the “black” experience over here is no better than the “black” experience in America, we all go through the same struggle THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
@1Cardavian
@1Cardavian 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a cultural thing. Foreign blacks come with the attitude of “I’m not no slave and still looking at us as a slave class”. That’s why especially Nigerians, they come as feeling that their better than us and are easily vetted to be accepted by WP to the point they will bring us down as well to make themselves look good.
@Trini190
@Trini190 5 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@tamaracharese
@tamaracharese 5 жыл бұрын
This is a nuanced conversation that folks are trying to simplify. Blackness is African and indigenous. Black Americans, Black Caribbeans, Black South Americans, Black Canadians, Black Australians are all that countries’ descendants of indigenous and enslaved or colonized Africans. It is truly convenient that this separation reached the height is does today in tandem with the height of voter suppression for black people. Be very conscious of the fact this Fox Soul channel is owned by the same parent company as Fox News. For those that don’t know, many African countries are still under colonial rule till this day, same in South America and the Caribbean.
@urbanvoice5323
@urbanvoice5323 4 жыл бұрын
These folks are trying to be intellectual but dividing us even further.
@veronicaapav8975
@veronicaapav8975 4 жыл бұрын
Now, the subject is BLACKNESS and RACE... And What does the EDUCATOR say? She mentions gender and sexual orientations and sexual preferences .. That has absolutely nothing to do with the subject a hand. I wonder how much she get compensated for assisting with pushing the agenda....?
@Minsi40
@Minsi40 3 жыл бұрын
No, she's not wrong. In the Black community, if you don't want a Black partner, then you lack Blackness. It's kind of like having a "Black card". She's showing the more social aspect, which is used in that way, as well.
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 5 жыл бұрын
Why people defensive about saying who is black? Even within "black" community there is an unspoken political correctness in saying biracial people not black. Trully not all of african descent are black just like not all of european descent are white. Colin Kapernick is of african decent but not black. He is also of european decsent but not whit. Hes of mixed heritage. Neither is WEB DuBois. Both are biracial. Now if they choose to identify more with one side than the other that is their privilege. Thats not to say someone like Bill Clinton can suddenly decide hes black. Even if he had that heritage it doesnt show. Its not apparent. We arent going about taking samples of genes to determine who you are.
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 3 жыл бұрын
@Trevon Womack biracial is exactly that. 1/2 black 1/2 other. There is hardly anyone in this world not mixed. I dare say Donald Trump is mixed maybe 1/16
@elvisnji2248
@elvisnji2248 4 жыл бұрын
What defines blackness, is the consciousness (culture) from the DNA and it is this that brought forth every phenotypic expression (perception).
@kemmyoluwo4732
@kemmyoluwo4732 4 жыл бұрын
The best way I describe it is this You have a box of chocolates with different flavours in it. What white supremacy has done is to win on all fronts when it comes to Blackness, but African-Americans have being a prime rolemodel and example of true resilience and influence because they were able to fight their oppression, which still continues TILL THIS DAY. In the eyes of the WM African is Black. We are racially the same, but ethnically different. YET, we do share alot of similarities in certain things than most of us think. However, there's huge sense of EGO from non-AA Black immigrants when it comes to their relations with AA without any context, as they are never told the REAL REASON that alot of AA are in the circumstances that they are in. Therefore, they are being used as a con-game to erase the significance of the ADOS on the world and the official Black experience.
@Ms.Jamieh297
@Ms.Jamieh297 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you...well said✔💯👏
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
Kemmy Oluwo Sh%t, you get it. Most africans I've noticed would deny this as well as "afro latinos" or whatever have you. Everyone always battling for their clan and looking down on black americans. This isn't superficially at all when I say it. *'Well said.'* 🎇✨
@kemmyoluwo4732
@kemmyoluwo4732 4 жыл бұрын
@@Scoring57 I've heard my people say that 'AA don't have a culture', when their culture is the most sold on the planet. And I'm aware of the word AKATA.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
@@kemmyoluwo4732 At least you're honest. East africans, specifically somalis, also use the word "bantu" in the negative to describe black americans and even other africans.
@keithmcgaffie9963
@keithmcgaffie9963 5 жыл бұрын
How many white Dutch’s in South Africa right now will come to America and can actually say they are African descendants.
@chocolatesilksworld6951
@chocolatesilksworld6951 5 жыл бұрын
This is a good segment
@Robay146
@Robay146 4 жыл бұрын
Great discussion.
@TheNyakaat
@TheNyakaat 4 жыл бұрын
People of African descent are black because we define it biologically and not politically. The American issue of race is peculiar to the U.S.
@FirstPersonHood
@FirstPersonHood Ай бұрын
Great
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 5 жыл бұрын
Black is not political solidarity or shared suffering. It is about ethnicity not politics or oppression!
@kevinjoseph2650
@kevinjoseph2650 4 жыл бұрын
historically european called any one with dark skin black in the territories they conquered not just africans ,indians from india ,aboriginal people of australia are still called blacks
@changes9743
@changes9743 5 жыл бұрын
Everybody gave validate points to their arguments. Very interesting topic.
@martineli312
@martineli312 5 жыл бұрын
As a host you need to learn to let the guest speak & finish answering & finish explaining your question🙅🏾‍♂️....
@ray1411
@ray1411 5 жыл бұрын
martineli312 What? He’s a good moderator.
@C2G2
@C2G2 5 жыл бұрын
Rey S. Exactly nothing wrong with the host ok 💯🤷🏿‍♀️
@temin7152
@temin7152 4 жыл бұрын
He did a great job 🤷🏽‍♀️
@natbrownizzle3815
@natbrownizzle3815 4 жыл бұрын
He only allows those to end their sentences, whom he agrees with, it is quite obvious. When he stopped the Nigerian woman from talking, he did that to disagree, not to ask further or because he did not understand. But I think one disqualifies himself the moment he says "Im from New York, this what we do" that is just stupid.
@gregoryglass9040
@gregoryglass9040 5 жыл бұрын
Blackness in America is an total different then in the africa they have their own language and culture we have not that they they have so we are different in that way
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 5 жыл бұрын
Gregory Glass , I hope you're not one of those blacks who don't believe we have a culture.
@paconot
@paconot 5 жыл бұрын
Great point. They can do "home" at the end of the day.
@Lil08103
@Lil08103 5 жыл бұрын
you speak of africa like it's a small country instead of a whole ass continent with like 30 different nations lol yes there are differences. no one is confused about the obvious. the question becomes whether there's a need for some kind of solidarity btwn blk americans and africans and i think so
@Lil08103
@Lil08103 4 жыл бұрын
@Mocha Brown blkness def exists in south africa. but i understand the implication of your statement which is that when your entire society is blk, the ppl do not think of themselves in racial terms
@gregoryglass9040
@gregoryglass9040 4 жыл бұрын
@Mocha Brown yeah but you still don't get it oh well i tried lol you mean the blackness of white people decide for us ok now who is being simple minded come people have you no common sense of who you are and your culture is ok
@theway68wb
@theway68wb 5 жыл бұрын
no we off the one-drop rule
@jesushateswood
@jesushateswood 4 жыл бұрын
Tell 'em. Biracial people don't want to be called Black anymore. We aren't living in WEB Dubois time period anymore. One drop is dead. Mixed folks want to be called mixed or biracial. They have their own group. Stop putting them in black spaces. They can be our allies but they ain't us.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesushateswood No, plenty of biracials do want to be called black and many black people also want them to be called black due to their own weakness and lack of self-pride. It's an issue caused on both sides. It seems the parents of biracial children contribute to it the most. They want black kids without having to have black kids.
@zat0076
@zat0076 4 жыл бұрын
Damn the show did no justice with the lady speaking on behalf of the AFRICANS in diaspora...zero knowledge regarding the topic been discussed
@edwigen7245
@edwigen7245 4 жыл бұрын
True. I totally agree with you. She had no knowledge at all. I never did quite understand why everytime there a topic/discussion about africa, theres also a nigerian on the panel? No other africans. The show really needs to make an effort of includes other africans too! If he did, then the discussion would have definetly be very interested due to the diversity and africans with different knowledge, where we could learn something.
@ntandokazikancube
@ntandokazikancube 4 жыл бұрын
My disappointment is profound. I wish our African rep on this panel was more knowledgeable. Identity as it refers to who is African is a major issue for us on the continent - especially for those from the Southern African hemisphere. Dr. Sean’s question was very deep and our sister missed it. The other gentleman tried to tackle it however, he lost me on the Afrikaner element and their “African” identity. One can argue that it is the “All Lives Matter” equivalent. I found myself raising my hand and screaming “me...me...pick me...!!” This needs a part 2 with another African or other African reps. Man... on the African v. African American juxtaposition, she could have drawn parallels between colonialism/slavery/Jim Crow/apartheid and neocolonialism as the common struggle that binds us together - even though there are nuances or differences if you will. Not to mention, the Pan-African movement was started by Africans and Africans in the diaspora / brought there through slavery.... Round 2 please Dr. Sean!!!
@free2bme144
@free2bme144 5 жыл бұрын
Blackness is global!
@keithmcgaffie9963
@keithmcgaffie9963 5 жыл бұрын
Just wrote about this on Twitter in political words and social groups. I was describing the definition of minorities people of colors and black and how all three terms applied to us first.
@martineli312
@martineli312 5 жыл бұрын
We know what African is, but what is black.
@aamrakamran7275
@aamrakamran7275 5 жыл бұрын
Black is fba. Go away.
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
What defines blackness? Anyone who can't escape their blackness.... It's not "politics" or "culture" or whatever else. Those things can be components that play a part, but at the end of the day the origin point of blackness is race (a physical appearance; an ancestry). Those children were only made slaves because were born to a *black* parent (that didnt happen with being born to native americans, asians, irish etc).
@sherrybrown8608
@sherrybrown8608 5 жыл бұрын
Love the Afro I want one just like that. Second panelist is not getting the conversation . I am quite sure she experienced racism but still does not get it.
@gworld7d60
@gworld7d60 5 жыл бұрын
Sherry Brown , she is African
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
GWorld7 D what the fuck does that have to do with anything? She grew up in America and still experience the “black” Experience
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
That's why she's African and. Not black African American
@biggmixxo
@biggmixxo 4 жыл бұрын
A lotta africans will say they r african & not black
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
Kymmie Koko It's, "black american" not "black african american"....
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
BIGG MIXX no they won’t they really won’t 😂 it’s African Americans who say their “African American” and not black
@Scoring57
@Scoring57 4 жыл бұрын
@@elijahoye8216 You're living on another planet.
@luvennise
@luvennise 5 жыл бұрын
DON'T DELETE THE COMMENTS
@jamescorvus6709
@jamescorvus6709 3 жыл бұрын
This bowtie guy is tripping. How he gonna say that Black Africans aren't Black. The one dude said anti blackness is global and he brought up Japan. Most of the Black People in Japan are from Nigeria and Ghana, they are not African Americans. Same in China. Black Africans get discriminated as all of us Black People do. Boers and Berbers from Africa aren't Black, so we ain't talking about them. If this bowtie guy doesn't identify with Black people coming from the mother continent, then he culturally would have to be a white man. He speaks a white mans language and has a white mans name. He couldn't be Black as the term Black to describe people was used before the slave trade for Africans. Saharan and South of the Sahara are Black People indigenously.
@leetate1963
@leetate1963 4 жыл бұрын
Belizian is not an ethnicity. It is a nationality just as being American is a nationality
@wildmansolow2
@wildmansolow2 5 жыл бұрын
why we always claim who is black when it does prove anything
@Boelle.
@Boelle. 5 жыл бұрын
Why does the host keep interrupting her and questioning her identity as an african? It is a bit annoying.
@s.o.6486
@s.o.6486 5 жыл бұрын
Because a person's lineage explains their history and perspective. The host wanted the audience to know that the lady is Nigerian and not ADOS. It is important to know this because the Nigerians sold ADOS and the other black people in the Caribbean and Latin America into slavery. The guest says that black in America means your ancestors were on the auction block so how can the Nigerian lady say she is black when her people are the very reason all of us ended up on the action block in the first place? Double dipping, trying have your cake and eat it too.
@Boelle.
@Boelle. 5 жыл бұрын
American Lady more separation within the black community is unnecessary. That nigerian lady is not responsible for slavery and she is definitely black.
@s.o.6486
@s.o.6486 5 жыл бұрын
@@Boelle. You can't be serious! The Nigerians (and other African lineages) are the reason there was slavery in the west in the first place. Some of them are wealthy today because their ancestors sold us into slavery.
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
American Lady your an idiot. Europe also conquered Africa and destroyed a whole thriving economy. This lie that Africans sold Africans into slavery is bullshit. The very top African KINGS sold others into slavery. The likelihood is that she is just from a village in Africa whose descendants were stronger than African Americans and managed not to be captured but still went through colonisation.
@tahamenepark
@tahamenepark 4 жыл бұрын
@@s.o.6486 I'm going to have to disagree slavery started in Ghana with the Ashanti tribe. Slavery was all cross west Africa. Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ghana & Congo etc. Why u blaming the slave trade on One country
@bpraise517
@bpraise517 5 жыл бұрын
Category-less people is not REAL. We define ourselves by classification and categorization.
@ishmeldaniel7127
@ishmeldaniel7127 4 жыл бұрын
Ejiofor need to shut her mouth about black life matter nobody life should be taking because they resist arrest
@KZ-zu4br
@KZ-zu4br 4 жыл бұрын
ADOS! We are not lost we are black Americans Period! Grow a pair and own that.
@frenchgirl753
@frenchgirl753 5 жыл бұрын
So apparently Americans of ALL colours don't know about North Africa.
@Trini190
@Trini190 5 жыл бұрын
They are not the original black
@frenchgirl753
@frenchgirl753 5 жыл бұрын
The greatest Ever what you said literally doesn’t mean anything. Some North Africans are black. Some are lighter, some are brown some are white. It just depends on their cultural and ethnic background
@edwigen7245
@edwigen7245 4 жыл бұрын
The show really really needs to include other africans too. Maybe you should be on the panel? 😁 representing north africa.
@frenchgirl753
@frenchgirl753 4 жыл бұрын
Edwige Nlassa I’d love to however I’ve been living in North Africa only for the past 6 months. I lived most of my life in France and England. I think an American North African would be more appropriate.
@edwigen7245
@edwigen7245 4 жыл бұрын
@@frenchgirl753 oh....please be on the panel😥. It amazing how many people dont know that there are black north african. You could educate ppl😊😊😊😊
@jlovely720
@jlovely720 5 жыл бұрын
Black Lives Matter TOO. Use your words to shut down the haters. Use an adverb - Too.
@Still-Learning
@Still-Learning 4 жыл бұрын
Poor taste in the production of this piece... At 9:25 when Ms. Joseph spoke about the attack on Black bodies, the producer includes a pan up of her body. Benign you say? Please keep this in mind... The Black psyche has been trained to be highly sexualized. In this moment of political discussion on the destruction of Black bodies, momentarily, the discussion is debased to a sexualized depiction, which in context, has no bearing on the discussion and may be an attempt to dilute the power of her statements and distract the viewer from her illumination of facts. While I appreciate the venue, I can only watch Fox Soul with one eye as the other is skeptical of their true intent. -Keep Learning
@cassyespencer9757
@cassyespencer9757 4 жыл бұрын
She has no idea I'm almost positive she speaks another language that alone makes her no awaire of the whole diaspora and the layers to African American culture.
@shariffbrown04
@shariffbrown04 4 жыл бұрын
I never heard Deane said
@fboomac23
@fboomac23 5 жыл бұрын
Blackness in United States and South Africa is political but like my Professor in my African -American studies, he went deeper that Black of African descent spread thousands of years all of the continent like India, Australia, New Zealand, Italy, China, Middle East, Central America,etc and if you do an DNA test on all dark and brown people, it is always a percentage of African in them
@michaelcampbell5817
@michaelcampbell5817 4 жыл бұрын
Being black was a consciousness. We are not Africans, we were given that name by a European Africanus. We were Asiatic black people, from Asia continent before the earthquake.
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 5 жыл бұрын
But historicalky, in herodotus histories there were always a non black community in libya west of egypt. Herodotus documents this well i believe. But Afrrikanners are not of african descent. They are of dutch and european descent!
@sylviaashby3775
@sylviaashby3775 5 жыл бұрын
Yr right white people will alwsys tell you what kind of european they are desended from where ever they settle themselves.
@frenchgirl753
@frenchgirl753 5 жыл бұрын
That's why I wish they had North Africans in the Convo. North Africans are white brown and black. We have a mixed heritage and therefor we're left out of the conversation all the time.
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like should not be used in this kind of conversation
@ThEEnlightenFemme
@ThEEnlightenFemme 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can be from Africa and not be black. According to the US Census, Northern Africa..ie Eygpt... are considered white.
@mommabeekay5203
@mommabeekay5203 4 жыл бұрын
I am loss... or is MS. Nigeria?
@marsallefrancisco4851
@marsallefrancisco4851 2 жыл бұрын
When Black women with fake hair,speak on black social issues,worries me greatly! I can't take them serious.The self hate is still within these women.
@adosscreenwriter1
@adosscreenwriter1 Ай бұрын
our ancestors her comments equal yike
@Bz779s
@Bz779s 4 жыл бұрын
🤷🏾‍♂️Some so called black people came here willingly🤦🏾‍♂️
@tearakasiyamhuru1614
@tearakasiyamhuru1614 4 жыл бұрын
I knew Doc was a sociologist 😎
@kkabrahamstudios
@kkabrahamstudios 5 жыл бұрын
#ADOS
@brotherfirst4388
@brotherfirst4388 5 жыл бұрын
Feel free to see my playlist titled BroFIRST ........my street work
@TheNyakaat
@TheNyakaat 4 жыл бұрын
Olivia, you are sounding ignorant. I am Nigerian and you are not speaking for me.
@mamabear5289
@mamabear5289 4 жыл бұрын
So does the democrat party believe it owns me as a black woman? Libertarian !
@thematrix3663
@thematrix3663 4 жыл бұрын
Trauma remains in the dna and continues on for generations which ms. Nigeria cannot appreciate and ms. Belize does not understand.
@elijahoye8216
@elijahoye8216 4 жыл бұрын
Giselle Pierre no it doesn’t this bullshit. Colonisation by Europeans in africa happened for LONGER THAN SLAVERY and was WORSE. And also, there were slaves in the Caribbean and Latin America, actually, the USA had the LEAST SLAVES 6%. A dirty cop won’t hesitate to shoot at a black guy just because his Ghanaian mum migrated to America 20 years ago. Slavery is just some bullshit excuse that African Americans use, in an attempt to play the “victim” card. Acknowledge that all black people are oppressed throughout the world but don’t complain about it, just get on with it and work harder. It’s why so many people stereotype African Americans as lazy, spend to much time playing the victim card.
@maryjane2965
@maryjane2965 4 жыл бұрын
The woman in the middle is way off! I didn't like what she said about how we all need to do better. She totally used the argumentation of the all lives matter people. Deana on the right was much clearer and made a lot of sense. The Nigerian Sis didn't add anything imo. You should have invited Godfrey as a representative of the Naija community, he gets it right. BTW BLM is out here in Germany too. We are out here and we are organizing too.
@21KEYZPRODUCTIONS
@21KEYZPRODUCTIONS 5 жыл бұрын
The term African Americans is a disrespectful term in my opinion I’m American by the way of Africa thru the Caribbean. It’s a political term to describe us in the political arena for votes.
@Beautiful_Hermit
@Beautiful_Hermit 4 жыл бұрын
Black may be a international struggling however the American slavery experience and descendants of such is not period point blank. It's not rocket science. It only disheveles our movement and struggle to even entertain the idea of oneness in our American history which is obviously set apart by that. Yeah we are all of African descendant and suffer from oppression in many European Asian and Hispanic countries, it's just not African American post civil rights descent Black. What weight does opinions hold in matters of fact.
@ASJ112PSU
@ASJ112PSU 4 жыл бұрын
umm the woman from nigeria does not get what is being asked. the conversation and the questioning is completely going over her head...this is what happens when you dont know information, and when you have an opinion of something based on the little information you know and not what you studied or truly took time to understand....
@TL-yc1nl
@TL-yc1nl 5 жыл бұрын
Afrikaaners are descendants of colonizers...not the same thing
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
She never answered the question yellow shirt
@blackbeautytrending7032
@blackbeautytrending7032 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryu Panther nigeria is Africa...yes..ok, i said what i said because africans from different countries share the same ideals... i didnt make it that way...it just is what it is.
@krankinthehog4984
@krankinthehog4984 4 жыл бұрын
2 + 2 = 5
@WealthyThomas
@WealthyThomas 4 жыл бұрын
Ask about black get answer about the globe
@cvzdez
@cvzdez 4 жыл бұрын
Africana are not of african descent. Descent meands qhere your people cane from thei people are from Europe
@edwigen7245
@edwigen7245 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Sean asked a very good question about if blackness and africa is the same thing. A good question. But ONLY ONE PROBLEM...WHERE ARE THE OTHER AFRICANS ON THE PANEL? You just had a nigerian person. And I completely disagreed with everything she said. I do sometime wonderful if you know that Africa is not Nigeria, Africa is continent with 54 countries and nigerians do not represent africans. You will find many africans from north, east, south, central and west living in the US, so why werent there any africans from north,central, east, southern and other on the panel? If these africans were on the panel, you will realise that africans dont think the same way. Very shameful...of not having diversity on the african side.👎
@judahbenisrael313
@judahbenisrael313 4 жыл бұрын
So there is a problem with being call black and even african because you hce to go back deep very deep into history to Adam and Even then Noah because early history have Ham and Shem always occupy the same space so here you go
@keithmcgaffie9963
@keithmcgaffie9963 5 жыл бұрын
African aren’t just black their white Arabic and Indian
@bluerowe4458
@bluerowe4458 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I can understand. But can not relate... That is the way that should have been said...
@wendywilliams9189
@wendywilliams9189 4 жыл бұрын
i can't stand how much he interrupts! he is not a good host
@theenlightenoromo5361
@theenlightenoromo5361 4 жыл бұрын
yes every body from Africa is not Black. look Egypt, Libya, Algeria, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia...
4 жыл бұрын
Ethiopian not Black? WTF
@theenlightenoromo5361
@theenlightenoromo5361 4 жыл бұрын
@ funny right. I said that b/c we dont rap 😂😂
@theenlightenoromo5361
@theenlightenoromo5361 4 жыл бұрын
@ yeah so. who the fuck are you? i said we as Ethiopian. what is wrong with being tribe and clan man if you dont hate others??
@distorbia20
@distorbia20 4 жыл бұрын
Who is this clown in the middle named Olivier
@cristobalbrown-salinas9548
@cristobalbrown-salinas9548 4 жыл бұрын
The Nigerian girl is just not a good speaker I di t fully disagree with her she j doesn't speak very well
@cookee888
@cookee888 4 жыл бұрын
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