CC Sabathia Says Black/Hispanic Players Face Pressure to Play Baseball ‘the White Way’

[@coolblack4869]

Chris is absolutely right!! Baseball popularity in the 80's & 90's was hella high in the African American community and it absolutely rivaled football and basketball!!!

[@senor_clyde6214]

I did my senior thesis on the decline of black players in Major League Baseball. I have so much info on this, as well as my own conclusions. Race is a major factor, as is socioeconomic status in America - which is intertwined with race.

[@austinb1400]

Link to publication?? Or an abstract? I'd love to read!

[@chrisisslick]

Bingo! There aren't any baseball fields in the hood, only the suburbs. Also, it's more expensive for everyone to have their own equipment vs just a basketball ball or a football. Add that with barely any blacks in the league which means young blacks don't see themselves in the sport. The swag shaming theyre talking about here is a major contributer too.

[@seanswinton6242]

Same here.

[@darrengordon-hill]

OVER ABUNDANCE of blacks in the NBA...

[@seanswinton6242]

@@chrisisslick Agree. For basketball, the only things needed a ball, rim, and backboard. Mounted at NBA level. Most parks have them. Also you can practice that alone or play one on one. Baseball requires more equipment that costs more. It also requires more people to play. That's why basketball is far more appealing.

[@1000percent]

The sandlot type games were the best 👌 I even would throw a tennis ball against the wall and imagine myself pitching in a real game

[@lamonteganaway2322]

You too?

[@SantiagoEspaillat]

Hello from Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 God bless America 🙌.

[@bosshova23]

I remember that! Griffey Jr. is my favorite baseball of all-time and they did make comments about him wearing his hat backwards.....

[@17thN.O]

He was the most naturally gifted players I've ever seen.

[@tmorgan7939]

CC might be at leastt 15 yrs late on this. Baseball has been on the decline even while he was playing. More boring every year. Hell if we didn't have the steroid era wonder where the game would be now.

[@JM-qn3tf]

Steroid era is when baseball was fun to watch. Ever since it’s been trash

[@rsb512]

The steroids era save baseball for 15 years. Let's see Gaylord Perry who cheated his entire career with throwing spitballs won over 300 games is in the Hall of fame but Roger Clemens is not. BS.

[@Awkward_Inc3l]

Why do baseball players make the most money ( I mean top earners as I know that most players aren’t taking in the big bucks, especially in minor leagues) if the sport seems to take a backseat to basketball and football. The money gotta be coming from somewhere

[@lordbakura1737]

Mlb is doing just fine bud. Just cuz you like having a clock on your games. It doesn’t mean baseball is boring

[@JM-qn3tf]

@@lordbakura1737 no they are not bud but keep lying to make yourself feel better

[@marcuswithuniverse]

Baseball in 80s and 90s had white guys with personality lol....baseball went conservative after the steroids era....once the game became conservative less black kids became interested in playing baseball....its boring...the players are like robots....the game is played slower now..less hits .less bases being stolen..baseball stars use to be on the same level as basketball star players when it came to star power in 80s and 90s..this has nothing to do with race or culture or the right way to play it...baseball took a major hit with the steroid era and they went the conservative route to clean its imagine up..its like watching pop Warner..let men be men again

[@stonedecatur6602]

That is when I stopped watching

[@pycellesbeard9728]

Yeah lots of factors contributed to baseballs current problems....Race aint one em'. Continued cheating scandals with the sign stealers and the sticky stuff blowing up and moronic players obsessed with launch angle are 2 huge problems.

[@sthao1733]

Yup. I knew who Ken Griffey was in the early to mid 90s and I didnt even watch much baseball as a kid. He was MLB most popular player by far, his popularity was comparable to Jordan in the US. You cant even compare the biggest MLB star right now to 25th best player in the NBA.

[@Ekim1740]

what are you saying? Conservatives are not dull. It got boring cause they banned steriods thats all. As a matter of fact, NBA got worse when they went Liberal. Soft calls and easy Technical made it worse.

[@stonedecatur6602]

@@Ekim1740 taking the steroids out is liberal not conservative. Remember, Liberal means progressive.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Black people invented hockey if u don't believe me look it up

[@shareofmoney]

I am not a big baseball fan but I can appreciate the coverage these guys give it. Most networks just cover the same teams and guys in the NFL and NBA. I would like to get into baseball but I feel like it is too slow for me personally.

[@Awkward_Inc3l]

To be honest im a fan of there being juiced balls, electronic sign stealing, and steroids. That would just increase scoring. I guarantee people would watch more if games resembled low scoring football games( 15-10, 12-9, etc.) don’t get me wrong pitching duels are cool every now and then but its hard to watch a 3 plus hour game with like ten hits. That’s a hit like every twenty minutes.

[@RosecityTone]

@@Awkward_Inc3l i used to know a dude in Portland named Kelijah Warren !!! His nickname was K-Dubb…… i used to smack him at 2k tho

[@Awkward_Inc3l]

@@RosecityTone yo wasgud tone I moved back to Portland last year. We gotta link up if you still in Portland. And I always beat you stop capping. Add my snap kelijah_w and ima send you my number

[@MrBimirud]

I'm Black and grew up playing and watching baseball, but it was the only sport where Black and Latino players essentially got a rock to the head for expressing their culture on the field.

[@stringer2295]

There’s a lot of butthurt non African American Latino people in these comments and it’s true, black and Latino players always have flair and there’s always a white dude the next day saying “that’s not how you play the game”. Ex Tatis, Griffey, Batista…..

[@jamesmarshall6619]

You could go back to when Jackie Robinson came into the game and how black players played differently than their white peers. It wasn't just the way they were on base paths but how they moved, how often they tried to steal, how Willie Mays would basket catch, etc.

[@richatlarge462]

The pitcher throws the ball, the batter tries to hit it, the fielders try to field the ball. Flair will not help in any of these things, so I don't even know why this is a topic.

[@allanbrito4645]

Facts!

[@AL-hf2fp]

They say ironically "White is right" but with all things there's a balance. Culture comes into play, it takes the black and White keys to make harmony in music!!

[@richatlarge462]

Where does that leave Asians and Hispanics?

[@Commsense750]

Nobody cares about Baseball like they did in the 90's Rob 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@alecedwards9413]

Just let the players juice for gods sake. Problem solved.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Bro u can say what u want but if they don't market their players it's gonna just be regional

[@mitchgoudreau7670]

Give me suggestions to market the game better I just wanna see some suggestions that aren't just commenting market the players better and it's not just marketing it's a much deeper issue.

[@TheMichaelN12]

​@@mitchgoudreau7670 For example, the NBA is hugely popular because they crossover into different industries. There's a huge correlation between NBA and Hip-Hop music, so now the NBA has ties to the music (largely the hip-hop/urban) crowd and that brings in a ton of viewers. They're also big in pop culture (ex: Space Jam with MJ was a massive success, gatorade and nike commercials, the entire Air Jordan brand is now a global phenomenon and has been for decades) They do stuff that's more modern/relatable to younger audiences, and there are a ton of pages that are dedicated to how NBA players dress, and so now they're crossed over into the fashion world. That means more viewers and more markets. MLB needs to do something similar and cross into different markets and cater to the younger audiences. A lot of it has to do with the players being more fun and personable, use that to build a bigger social media presence cuz the world is mainly digital now. But its hard to do because everyone loses their mind when Tatis does a lil dance/stutter step before rounding 3rd on a home run. MLB The Show 21 has done a great job of crossing over, as numerous NBA stars mentioned how great it is.

[@mitchgoudreau7670]

@@TheMichaelN12 Thank you!! See these are the comments I wanna see not just market your players better. And yes Hip hop and the NBA are crossed over because hip hop is the new pop music and the NBA/NFL and pop culture have merged together over the years through movies, stars, and brands. And I agree MLB needs to let the players be themselves, build their social media to be more accessible and cross over to different industries. And with the Tatis dancing stuff, baseball was taught by fathers from generation to generation. They were all taught the unwritten rules to be respectful etc. That's how my grandfather, father and I were taught to play the game. Nobody ever told us a different or more acceptable way because it's been part of baseball for over a century. In reality what CC is saying is the other sports exposed how baseball has a professionalism mindset which is not what fits todays fun to watch athlete.

[@JM-qn3tf]

There’s nothing to market. They got rid of all the fun.

[@tyfab1636]

Bout time the Padres are starting to get talked about they are the most fun team to watch in all of sports rn football basketball included it’s like a breath of fresh air no one hating and downing the players on every sports show just get to watch and enjoy the game even if they loose it’s still entertaining

[@mikeorfe1188]

Unfortunately yours is the mentality of today’s sports fan

[@mikeorfe1188]

@M F yeah so? They’re a bunch of clowns

[@Bodhi594]

It's culture not race or skin color. Everything that happens in this Country is due to Culture whether it's good or bad.

[@tronrobojim6526]

This is a point most miss. Very accurate.

[@OhCanada613]

Well said

[@keithgupton9349]

Actually I think both culture and race play a role in how many things are perceived in America. People see what you look like before they know what your culture is. Race can't be minimized especially in America.

[@TheToby121]

@tim hood Genetic reductionism is an even lower iq take.

[@hannibalburgess7517]

It's culture and race... What are you talking about?... This America

[@ericrobertson2595]

Willie the Phillie Montanez was the forerunner for being a hot dog and entertainer. He flipped the bat while walking up to the plate and for his flair when catching the ball at first.

[@jjsziabo4252]

I was just thinking the other day about how none of the sports shows cover baseball, as Broussard mentioned.

[@monijam1]

Yes latin-black players may have different cultural beliefs and daily practices but they're black, make no mistake...which is fine, it's great. Just like germans, french, english, and polish people are all caucasian. But bottom line, baseball does need to allow more flair, excitement, individuality, style, and entertainment in baseball.

[@mull4395]

Always appreciate the fact that the Odd Couple isn’t afraid to tackle topics like this. Big ups guy and continue to keep doing what you’re doing. 💯✊🏿

[@shavarez]

Why do you call black people african american but don’t call white people european american???

[@ghostface_7]

this

[@treyd7607]

White doesn't have negative connotation, black does

[@shavarez]

@@treyd7607 I disagree

[@yvans.]

@@treyd7607 i don’t think black does have a connotation anymore

[@krillin876]

The term evolved into a African American. Whites used to be called by their ethnic back round. For example, Italians were not considered white, but now you would.

[@jgood4010]

Chris is spot on about race and Rob is right about culture good convo around the world "black" usually means us black Americans even though racially we are the same as our diaspora brothers

[@Awkward_Inc3l]

Not really. There is a difference between American black and Dominican,puerto rica, Haitian, etc. that would be like saying American whites and Europeans are the same because they’re white. Obviously American whites probably have European descent just like American blacks probably have African or island descents but still. There’s a difference in your family being in America for hundreds of years versus your parents or grandparents just recently coming over. Not trying to divide any groups of ppl or anything but it’s just facts. Like I’m American black and when ppl ask me where I’m from I truly don’t know.

[@jgood4010]

@@Awkward_Inc3l culturally different racially we are the same I not speaking onnthe they are different. If you gathered bunch of Jamaicans, Haitians, Afro Rican, Afro Dominicans, and Americans Black's and took there cloths off and nobody spoke and mixed them up nobody would be able to tell who was from were. Can't saw that for europeans they still would look different .

[@mr.ronaldlawrence1231]

@@Awkward_Inc3l you are correct but don't miss "J Good's" point. Broussard is speaking reflectively from a youthful point of view growing up in Cincinnati.

[@madboyreadynow28]

My cousin is John Shelby played in the 80's and 90's and played on the 1988 World Series team with the Dodgers. His sons are big and strong and very athletic. All played baseball and none made it to the Big Leagues. I don't know why but it can't because they weren't talented. Something is going on when a ex Baseball player has 5 sons all play the game and know how to play the game and not one of them can make it on a team? Something is up with that.

[@pycellesbeard9728]

And yet 3 average at best players from the 90's and early 2000's have sons who are easily in the top 5 current players in MLB(Tatis, Acuna) and one a top 5 NFL player ( Mahomes), So no, nothings happening other than these Shelby kids obviously just weren't good enough.

[@dune-one]

You want to make it entertaining than let the players take steroids.

[@cindymmm11]

No. That will make many young kids using steroid.

[@lance.da.legend9837]

The problem with baseball is the games take too dam long...after every pitch the guy has to walk out of the batters box...or the pitcher has to walk around the mound...also it's homerun or strike out....what happened to the hit and run..the bunt...stolen bases...and not to mention these awful umpires

[@dejohnson2277]

The game is already in trouble. Tatis has flair but has 20 errors. Can’t play Shortstop. Meanwhile Tim Anderson from the white Sox has 5 errors. That’s a shortstop. Bo bichette butchering the shortstop position. Harold Reynolds and mlb network won’t give the black players any publicity only Latino players. And most Latin players get a pass because they are Latin players. Yea I said it. Some can’t play. Fools hitting into shifts. Constantly! Tony Gwynn rolling in his grave… Catchers catching on one knee. Ricky Henderson would have a field day against these skips. The Game is in trouble and It’s MLB’s fault. It’s hard to watch.

[@dejohnson2277]

@Idome Udo did you watch the game last night? Molina is done. It’s been a good run.

[@dejohnson2277]

@officialcpa They can’t block balls into the dirt consistently. There are more pass balls. They don’t catch the curveball correctly. The pitcher works harder. Because the catcher is jumping up and down. They don’t know how to frame a pitch for a strike. My son has wicked curve and change up that moves. I seen his high school one knee catcher get hit right in the chest pad more than once ,all strikes. 6A Texas Big boy baseball. The Vandy catcher is god awful with that one knee crap. They can do it know because hardly anyone steals anymore in the MLB. Ricky Henderson would have a field day on one knee catchers.

[@markj6681]

Black is an American term. No other country uses that to describe themselves. They may have African knotty hair but they don't consider themselves black or African. Americans consider black skin - black people.

[@stonedecatur6602]

What do they say?

[@yvans.]

Why not just calling yourself American and stop bothering us with this non-issue ?

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@yvans. Oikaphobia. Same reason those rich leftists haven't moved to Canada.

[@dontdoittoyoself6786]

You never heard of Moreno?

[@cjdayne3033]

I love how anything “white” is considered bad. And we think we can just keep on going like this and there won’t be problems ? Sooner or later it’s gonna go too far and there will be a pushback and at that point it’s gonna get bad for everyone

[@micklebob417]

It’s not that white is bad. This isn’t an attack on a ‘white way’ of playing the game. The point is MLB culture needs to be more diverse.

[@cjdayne3033]

@@micklebob417 I would agree with you if it was just this but it’s everything. Look at the Jalen rose situation if a white man had said they put a black player on the hockey team just for tokenism that white man would have been fired immediately never to work on tv again

[@Bannedconfidential]

Elaborate on the “pushback” you’re mentioning please...

[@whateveryaw8109]

@@micklebob417 isn’t it more diverse than say nba and nfl?

[@cal31BRIAN23]

Your little pushback already happened, which is why Trump got elected. Guess, you missed it

[@donaldphillips8312]

Rob Parker amazes me with his ignorance! People of Latin heritage or Hispanic an other ethnicities are of African decent. They came upon the same slave ships. They just had different slave masters. With different languages. That's all it is.

[@LIVEONETHEREF]

Yeah he's ignorant

[@DrPhill96]

But consider themselves Latin or Hispano on paper verses Black or African American. Blacks may accept brown as their people but rarely does brown see blacks as theirs.

[@chrisisslick]

@@DrPhill96 amen

[@judah2523]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Read a book.

[@Mars-pn1up]

Exactly

[@warriorj8658]

God forbid you have personality and emotion

[@zachg3069]

We always need to bring race into it dont we. I love what Fernando and the Padres are doing as a Dodger fan. It’s not a race thing, its a culture thing. I think of Madison Bumgarner yelling at Muncy when he admired his home run. The white guy yelling at a white guy because of the culture. Quit bringing race into stupid crap like this.

[@victorle7693]

There will always be racism because people keep talking about race, never wanna talk about individuals….

[@Xiondest]

Thing is culture and race are concepts that can be intertwined along history, a lot or old school customs on baseball could be seen as tradition to white people because they got used to said customs but to minorities it would have seemed like a different issue maybe. I'm not even american but it's pretty obvious that the history in that country between POC and white people is complex to say the least and it's remnants still affect everyday issues imo, i could be wrong tho

[@madgenuis2]

@@Xiondest nahh u right

[@stringer2295]

@@Xiondest thank you, i don't understand why its so hard for "them" to understand. And you being from another country and seeing this is hilarious, that's why there would never be any kind of peace because they deny that this country still feels the effects of slavery and the early 1900's, they say get over it like the ramifications are not being felt today.

[@Xiondest]

@@stringer2295 As sad as that fact sounds i hope someday those effects can be reduced in order for your country to truly proper and get as close to 'peace' tho. The country where i'm from was an spanish colony and our natives had a tragic fate in the process so it's not my place to tell a certain race to "turn the other cheek" after decades of degrading, but in my personal values i would hope equality would mean everybody treating each other fairly other than continuing a cycle of violence that would seem neverending, but then again that is easier said than done and it's not really my place as a foreigner to tell americans how they should manage those effects

[@rambooo2534]

It’s funny people complain about Baseball being boring but all baseball stadium’s are full every game meanwhile the WNBA plays every game in a damn near empty gym smh 😭

[@itshardtofindaname]

WNBA's boring too. Why you comparing baseball to a girls league lol?

[@njfuentesrespecter81]

I agree, let people make their own choices. Stop trying to get more black americans in the MLB. Clearly baseball isn’t cool to them so let them play whatever they want.

[@williamhicks8529]

They know that black pple do EVERYTHING with swag so to force us not to be ourselves and act like them which they say is the "professional way", he's absolutely right.

[@chrispoole8630]

Do you work with “swag”? Or do you act professional? Baseball is boring AF lol. It’s the league, not what color you are. If you wanna play with swag baseball ain’t it.

[@akeemalston7506]

@@chrispoole8630 why can’t someone have a personality about themselves that’s not boring and play baseball? If you look at what you just said it’s basically what this topic is about.

[@TheMichaelN12]

facts. i bet a lot of old white people/boomers get upset looking at Acuña Jr and Tatis Jr playing with their big ass chains on. I bet they would lose their minds if they saw what kinda cars black MLB players pull up in lol

[@Bigdre-ws3pd]

Glow stick They are not FBA y’all want give everybody the black card and they don’t even want it

[@seanswinton6242]

Showing fun and enthusiasm in baseball can bring people back. When I saw the Bautista bat flip a couple of years ago, I loved it. I grew up a Reds fan. The Big Red Machine were my team.

[@CasanovaPugilist147]

but the pitchers will be butthurt and their feewings will be hurt and will become emotionally unstable, we cant have that in this sport. Keep baseball the no fun league.

[@johnbrown4713]

So being black and Hispanic you just wear your hats backwards- Jackie Robinson , Doc Goodden this guy is stereotyping Black and Hispanic-

[@darrengordon-hill]

YES

[@yodon6867]

Only why it's not a whole lot of African American players in the MLB Because it's no Ken Griffey jr. Another is that it won't be as not free on TV and a whole lot of black people do not want to watch baseball.

[@MrBimirud]

Respect The Odd Couple for talking about baseball. It has storylines that are worth following.

[@hardworkingcriminal4873]

Having fun in the dugout doesn't equate to excitement on the field for me the casual watcher. When i see any flair I'm almost certain he'll be hit by a pitch next time up. Thanks to dumb unwritten rules.

[@Simon_Sez]

It’s sad that these “unwritten rules” seem to have been made under the guise of players being tough guys or something but in all reality it’s just because they’re emotional. And if you tell any of them that intentionally hitting someone is an emotional response, they’ll probably want to beat you up 😂😂😂 which, ironically enough, is just another emotional response lol

[@itshardtofindaname]

@@Simon_Sez yea their so fragile and sensitive, the irony is they dont have enough self awareness to see how their being emotional teenage girls

[@Simon_Sez]

@@itshardtofindaname exactly lol it’s sorta sad honestly. I’ve never understood the concept of having to beat someone up for calling you a “b*tch” either…. I mean, if one 5 letter word can get you upset enough to risk your freedom - you probably are an emotional b*tch lol. Things like that are insecure, fake tough guys who feel like they have something to prove to the world. I completely agree with that being “emotional teenage girl” behavior 😂😂😂

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Baseball grew when America was rural and the only media was radio baseball benefitted (since it favoured those things). Television, urbanization, and technology have led to baseball's demise irrespective of those other things.

[@terrencelightfoot8376]

MLB needs to let the players be themselves cc is correct

[@Keepdapocket]

I see a lot of comments about blacks not being interested, or there aren’t any baseball fields in the hood. I will see I kind of agree with the first part. Young blacks aren’t as interested in baseball because the game moves slow for a hood kid. Hood kids aren’t interested standing in the field waiting, actually hoping a ball gets hit to them. Or batting once everything 3 innings. Black kids like to run, move,. Baseball just isn’t that. As far as no fields being around? I absolutely disagree with that. Growing up in the 70’s and 80’s. My hood didn’t have a true baseball field. And, I’ve been to plenty of others at that time that didn’t have a true baseball field. But, we could a field of grass, whomever was batting we laid their gloves down as bases, and we marked a spot when there was a home run. We made due because we wanted to play. We had one bat. It was huge for use at the time, but we adjusted. We used tennis balls, baseball, raquetball, whatever, as the baseball. We were kids and just wanted to play. It’s the same as using a crate on a telephone pole as a basketball hoop. You find ways to play what you want to play. May not be pretty, but you make I do what it do. Bottom line is, for MOST kids that are between 8-12 years old, baseball is too slow of a game for a kid in the hood.

[@alberttate8198]

But the majority of the Latino players aren’t from the USA. So the % of latino population in America doesn’t have a direct correlation to the increase participation in baseball

[@yusefnegao]

Exactly

[@petepyeatt6909]

I think people are obsessed with race. Personally, I don’t care about being white. I just care about being Pete Pyeatt.

[@jamesmills9546]

Im glad you get that luxury pete do your minority friends have that option or does being white provide that opportunity to you?

[@jeremytruvillion1996]

I feel you dude. Im black but I care about being Jeremy Truvillion

[@petepyeatt6909]

@@jamesmills9546 I would have to really think about whether my friends are in the minority, first. That’s not something I pay attention to. I place people into three categories: Nice, assholes, and odd.

[@jamesmills9546]

@@petepyeatt6909 how many of those nice people you know happen to be a minority

[@johnmay4423]

​@@jamesmills9546 I'm a 250lb bodybuilder and get stared at like a zoo animal everywhere I go. Race isn't the only way to be discriminated against.

[@williest1]

This Era needs to learn more about Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders! Two of the BIGGEST names in MLB AND NFL!! ⚾ 🏈 I doubt we ever see two athletes excel in two pro sports like they did!

[@whereuwannabe7796]

Don't forget Brian Jordan. Also played for the Braves and Falcons.

[@anthonymilano6116]

So Harper says to make baseball fun yet boring baseball is the "white way". Got it! There are probably no black old time players that feel that way. It is certainly a black and white issue instead of an old and new one. I feel so educated today thanks guys lmao.

[@dhani1taylor]

😜👍🏿

[@stingrey1571]

this is why baseball's popularity has plummeted. if you celebrate too much, you're punished by having a stone thrown at your head 90mph.

[@McGarthur]

I have to give full credit to "The Chronicles of Judah 144" on this topic. On his patreon channel he went into full detail why there's a decline in Black participation in Baseball. It's because of the absence of the Father in the home. It all makes sense. How are we all introduced to the game? By our Dad, taking us outside showing us how to Catch, throw, and hit. It's a game of thinking, patience, and monotony. All characteristics of a Man. I was born in 87', all the men in my Family played the game (Dad, Grandads, Great Granddads, Uncles). Look at all the Black greats that played. They were all taught by their Dad. Ken Griffey jr., Darryl Strawberry, Barry Bonds. We have to get the Black Father back in the home, for much GREATER reasons, but also for Baseball. "Without Fathers, there is no Baseball, only Football & Basketball"- Diana Schaud.

[@stonedecatur6602]

Football and baseball are just more interesting. I don't think that it has anything to do with fathers. The ish is just boring after they took the steroids out. Judah makes some interesting points but he is sometimes a fanboy.

[@McGarthur]

@@stonedecatur6602 I respectfully disagree. It has everything to do with your Dad. The game of Baseball is passed down from Father to Son. Answer me this, how did Blacks go from Dominating Baseball in the 60's, 70's, 80's & 90's to out of no where it's not "interesting" anymore? That does not make sense unless something socially has changed. Fathers not in the homes. The crack era, Clinton's Presidency (War on drugs), Welfare, all hit hard and the 2000's you seen the effects. Even more now. How is he a Fanboy? He says he not a fan of anything.

[@blakeharris58]

That makes sense but I call it a stretch. My dad raised me on baseball. Football is more fun. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@stonedecatur6602]

@@McGarthur go back and watch his Steph Curry videos,he sounds like a fanboy.

[@McGarthur]

@@blakeharris58 You was blessed my brother to have your Dad and so was I. You and I are the 20%. What about the other 80% of brother's born without their Dad? But I also agree Football is more fun lol. Played Football myself. My Granddad wanted me to play Baseball. I was like Na lol. I I still followed it. We dont even Watch the sport. Let alone play it anymore.

[@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen]

Afro Latino/Hispanic is the same thing as black.

[@cal31BRIAN23]

Go tell that to the Hispanics

[@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen]

@@cal31BRIAN23 I don’t have to, some of them openly embraced their Afro roots. A lot don’t. The average Hispanic/Latino is mostly white Spaniard anyway and not Afro-Hispanic/Latino.

[@SmittyWerbenJagermannJensen]

@@cal31BRIAN23 hence why I said AFRO Hispanic/Latino and not just Hispanic/Latino. To put an emphasis on those who are ethnic alleys Hispanic/Latino but racially black.

[@A.Wojnarowski]

Just like American white guys and hispanics feels a pressure to play basketball "in black way". That's why you don't see them much in NBA.

[@Simon_Sez]

I’m not sure exactly what “the black way” to play basketball is but I feel like it might have a lot to do with the AAU tournaments and stuff. New kids get famous from their high school clips every year so naturally that’s how kids try to play. They just want to make highlights. But a ton of those kids never go pro or are extremely underwhelming. Dennis Smith Jr. comes to mind. You still see “unathletic” Europeans like Luka and Jokic actually dominating in the league tho. So if I’m to assume “black” means low iq basketball that relies mostly on athleticism rather than skill and intangibles that contribute to winning, I’m gonna have to put the blame on the AAU circuit. The NBA doesn’t keep many of those guys so none of the pressure to “play black” is coming from the big league in my opinion

[@bktruth9804]

Way to avoid REALLY discussing CC’s insights-you guys are PROS! Whyte Zaddy must be proud! 👍🏾

[@sebeku2]

They are Black Latino baseball players dating back from Roberto Clemente to Ronald Acuna Jr now

[@sha9infinite450]

Indeed…I don’t do that separation ish….all black people in North America don’t do the same thing….so saying Africans are ok and Caribbean players are different is ignorant. That food, yada yada is not the same in the U.S. neither. People don’t eat the same food just because we’re in the U.S. There are differences , however, it’s differences among Americans also.

[@yusefnegao]

@@sha9infinite450I agree makes no sense

[@JM-223-]

What’s the black way ?

[@darrengordon-hill]

Thuggish and bragging and whining and not shaking hands when you lose.

[@K.Puri92]

@@darrengordon-hill shame on you

[@danielbrock5449]

Rob Parker is on point with lineage

[@ramikwilliams9378]

Chris misses the point about activation and equity for blacks in baseball. He seems to see only from his lens which is limited and disappointing

[@emodadon1131]

Stfu

[@taze27]

Because baseball is inherently a more expensive and complex sport to play. You need a glove, a baseball, a bat, a good amount of space with bases and atleast 3 or more people to actually start a game. With basketball, you just need a ball, any kind of ball actually and a hoop out of anything. Why do you think soccer is the most popular sport in the world? You just need a ball and goal and pretty play by yourself. I think it comes down to simplicity and cost. But thats just my $.02.

[@itshardtofindaname]

Yea theres no expensive equipment required in football. And theirs zero complexity in learning offensive and defensive schemes in football.

[@richatlarge462]

Bad argument. If you can afford basketball shoes, you can afford baseball shoes. If you can afford a basketball, you can afford a baseball bat and ball. If you can go to the park to play basketball, you can go to the park to hit a ball with a couple of friends. And in school you can decide to play one sport or the other (or both). No one is not playing baseball because of the expense, but rather because baseball is not part of the local culture.

[@mattlee7210]

I like how the homerun derby now give the winner a spinning gold chain along with the trophy. I too agree ken's HOF bust should of had the hat backwards,that would be been perfect!

[@EricButler-b1u]

It's about jobs it's all about jobs

[@MR-qz4ny]

Odd couple does the best topics n deserves a show ...cause speak for yourself is hot garbage 🗑

[@AndreInThe416]

To these guys, flair = disrespecting opponents

[@mikeorfe1188]

Disrespectful generation

[@user-xf7ti9rc5f]

They say baseball is only for the rich but I see a lot of black people playing it 😳

[@hoshuazion961]

FERNANDO TATIS JR LOL IF U ASK HIM DO U CONSIDER YOURSELF BLACK, HE WILL MOST LIKELY SAY NO BUT Y R U WEARING LOCs LOCs R A "BLACK' HAIRSTYLE I THINK IF U DINT WANT TO BE CALLED BLACK STOPPING JOCKING OUR 👀 LOOKS & STYLE

[@ChiefAT227]

Black people dont play baseball anymore because it has been priced out the average person range. The equipment for baseball and hockey are far more expensive than sneakers for basketball; and football ball is so American based people pour millions of dollars into it helping to offset some of the parent cost.

[@mitchgoudreau7670]

That's only one part of it. Organized baseball as Rob calls it is known now as Travel ball and it has ruined the youth participation in the sport for not just black people but low income families in general. The cost that it takes to be able to have food, stay in motels, and fee you have to pay to go these tournaments is ridiculous on top of the overpriced equipment. Back when my dad played ball in the 60's and 70's all you needed was a hat, glove, and cleats. You were playing little league youth baseball until you got to high school not travel ball. It's become a gatekeeper sport for low income families in America especially when they can get Latin players for a much cheaper cost.

[@keithmcpherson149]

I just think most black fine baseball is boring. Y’all stop talking cost of it. It’s just boring sport.

[@ChiefAT227]

@@keithmcpherson149 if you dont think cost and exposure are the two biggest factors you dont follow youth sports

[@Bama20512]

It’s not many kids back in the hood that even have the access to play baseball for one…

[@williamhicks8529]

And also... Pple that are black and Latino have culture!!!! I'm not saying that white pple don't but if you can tell me what it is, I'd love to know! So I feel like they try to take away our culture while playing the game

[@dueynewton1139]

Rob is a cornball Brotha

[@hoshuazion961]

ROBERTO CLEMENTE PEDRO MARTINEZ RONALD ACUNA JR YASIEL PUIG etc.... YES , THEY R THE SAME NATION OF PEOPLE AS WE R SO CALLED AFRICAN AMERICAN

[@clearwater54]

These guys always quite when making millions but say crazy stuff when no longer employed

[@ItsChepps]

That’s the way to do it. Get the bag then expose them

[@clearwater54]

@@ItsChepps then it makes you fake, I'm fine with being that way but I'm not going to cry later on

[@jamesmills9546]

Duh you say everything you think at work🤔

[@stringer2295]

@@jamesmills9546 exactly lol.

[@ItsChepps]

@@clearwater54 bro everybody is fake towards something. Nobody is 100 percent real in every situation.

[@carlososcarcomedy]

I love CC and CC never liked being showed up. CC didnt want anyone showboating at his expense over giving up a 3 RUN SHOT. So CC keep it Buck and look at your own footage.

[@BBoyHannibal]

Rob - Black is not a demographic. African American is.

[@FNxKris9758]

So your not black if your from Cameroon or Columbia ? So ur just Latino ? So if you don’t eat soul food an aren’t born in the us u ain’t black ?

[@michaelpetrovich5353]

You did not vote for Biden, then you ain't black. 😁

[@slobbynick]

Bruh they ain’t eating soul food now lol just saying what they think needs to be said to keep there black card lol

[@musicotensai]

Not all the latino players are black though.

[@tg_oleksandr1307]

No if you're born in Cameroon you're African not black, and if you're born in Colombia you're South American. Or Colombian. Black isn't a race, it's just the color of your skin. It's like when a black person calls themself an African American, but you're only an African American if you were born in Africa and became an American citizen otherwise you're just African or just American. There are white Africans just so you know. It's a white guy that was born in Africa. The color of your skin doesn't matter when it comes to your nationality.

[@FNxKris9758]

@@musicotensai of course there not but there’s literally people in South America an Europe that are black but just because they have a different language or dress an have different beliefs that they aren’t “black” like what ?

[@omieg89]

Baseball is a fun game to play. Today’s baseball can be tough to watch.

[@khalifabdul-rahim5890]

Rob Parker what is considered black is if you are of African descent not if you are colonized by Spain.

[@MrBimirud]

I’m from Montreal. Vlad Guerrero, Pedro Martinez and our great manager, Felipe Alou, were DEFINITELY Black. What the heck is Rob talking about ?

[@bradivanson925]

Yeah but Caribbean you're white I can clearly tell

[@itshardtofindaname]

Your confusing race with culture. When african Americans talk about black they mean black American culture, even though yes black Africans and black Hispanics are racially black they come from different cultural backgrounds. I dont expect white canadians to really understand the nuance of this issue, I'm Canadian too before you freak out and white canadian always have hard time understanding the nuances of cultural identities.

[@terrytyler3139]

With the scouts not wanting to go to the inner city parks and recreation as well as high schools That's a big majority reason for the lack of blacks Even with the skilled players in the suburban schools Private schools if you will get scouted and drafted But one in eight may be in the show Remember there still is the good ol boy network amongst owners and GMs Scouts are outdated and antiquated with their philosophies They have that issue with charismatic blacks The reason its tolerated in the NFL and NBA is because blacks are a majority Imagine if the homeruns are led by blacks Base stealing is a lost art ⚾ although is the greatest Or one the greatest sport But its too boring Because there are no blacks

[@blakeharris58]

How exciting can baseball really be?

[@jeffsamuels2539]

Baseball is the juice

[@rrogers2370]

They couldn’t include a modern day black baseball player for the thumbnail? It couldn’t be that sparse in the majors.

[@mikeprince2036]

Analytics are killing the game baseball was fun in the late 90s with the dynasty and sosa McGwire, juice the balls get rid of that cheap ass shift and the game will be fun again , especially now with the athletes who play now

[@darrengordon-hill]

ANYBODY watch "Hispanic baseball"?????

[@Ksmoove0824]

CC is wrong. Blacks and Hispanics love baseball but blacks stopped playing baseball because there was no instant gratification or money right away, prestige. All my black friends stopped playing baseball when basketball and football became so $$$ dominant. That made scouts focus more on Latin countries. The AAU circuit at grassroots basketball is different and slightly corrupt. Baseball is clean and takes time to develop which I believe black youth and their family were not ready or willing to wait

[@barefootcatfishjones944]

"Black" is not a race or ethnicity it is a cooperate designation... You're father determines your ethnicity most "Black" people in the U.S. do not know there specific ethnicity so everyone is lumped in together go tell a Nigerian,Ghanian,Senagalese Person that they are "Black" there gonna laugh and give you there tribe name I am Burkinese-American my my ethnicity is Bushanga every person who looks similar to me is not my ethnicity we have no real culture in America that is why it's Constant Antipathy

[@hannibalburgess7517]

The 90s and the steroid 💉💪era was the best baseball

[@williest1]

The 80s were pretty exciting too! You had Doc Gooden, Daryl Strawberry, Bo Jackson, Ricky Henderson stealing bases left and right! 😁

[@dhani1taylor]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@17thN.O]

MLB better embrace Tatis, Otahni and Harper. Because those three dudes can help bring people to the game. Also embrace teams just not "star" players. Look at Boban in the NBA, people love him. Look at the past days. Iron head Heyward, George Mursean, Dikembe Mutombo, Refrigerator Perry, Vince Wilfork, Kyle Turley, BJ Raji, Bubba Smith, Too Tall Jones, Yasiel Puig, Muggsy Bogues, Ben Wallace and others I can't think of right now. People (especially casual fans) get attached to players. They don't have to be Jordan for fans to love them because they have a magnetic personality.

[@ranjanudayashankar1569]

@9:00 they are talking about Undisputed lol

[@PPM209]

Yup. Couldnt agree more.

[@adtastic1533]

This making everything about race won't end well. Take a look at the history of any other country if you don't believe me.

[@Bodhi594]

It's becoming a addiction to many people. It is absolutely creepy.

[@lastshallbefirst5516]

Lol.. are you serious? America has been about race since 1619. The Constitution, state laws, & federal policies are about race. Race has ALWAYS been the main theme in this country. As far as sports... you obviously don’t know the history of sports. If you did, you wouldn’t even have made this comment. Presently, the NBA & NFL are DOMINATED by Black athletes. But how many coaches??? How many owners??? The NCAA same thing, Billions 💵 for everybody except the players

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@lastshallbefirst5516 So you're saying "The NHL is racist and should implement affirmative action hiring policies for blacks?? ANY CHANCE blacks are better at basketball/sprinting etc due to BIOLOGY???

[@caper087]

Baseball and hockey both need to be talked about more on the debate shows… it can’t always be about Lebron or cowboys .. the Suns and bucks are in the finals and they have topics about dak Prescott and Lebron , like why?? Lol

[@cal31BRIAN23]

Because of ratings….Brady, Lebron, Cowboys…… these names drive ratings…that’s why most shows talk about the same topics all the time

[@worldtraveler8613]

Selfies guy was marcel ozuna... we all know what happened to him

[@216Browniee]

Didn’t these mfs go to school Latino is not a damn race , us African Americans just had a different boat stop

[@pooksfaamausili6540]

Honestly to fix the game or add excitement. Just gotta have more runs, just let everybody juice up lol

[@otisyoungblood]

Ppl don't watch baseball very few

[@jblitz55]

A couple of years ago didn't Rob Parker call TB the worst quarterback in the league? How tf does this guy have a job? Lol

[@dhani1taylor]

Because he's right. Very talented teams, preferenal officiating, slanted media coverage, and great coaching have hidden his lack of greatness for 2 decades. He is a competitor though. But, trash nonetheless 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@KT-mw2jt]

The guy that takes the ‘selfies’ on his homer trot is a domestic abuser no one is gonna be doing that for a while

[@bryantparker7390]

At the risk of starting a youtube comments war....at 2:45 Chris and Rob talk about how Dark skinned Latinos aren't black. That being said...yall think they can say the "nigga"??🤔 (I'm black btw)

[@coolblack4869]

Also baseball is not America pastime anymore. Football is. So therefore it's not emphasize as much anymore.

[@gregorywillis8400]

Rob is different,most blacks from Ny don’t look thru the same lens as other blacks in America. He can see Hakeem as black even though his culture is different than African Americans, but not the same as black Latino player who’s obviously of African descent,? What gives? A white from any country is label as white, but not the same of blacks from various countries.

[@yusefnegao]

I was thinking the same thing

[@81ghale]

Oh great they’re coming after baseball now. By they I mean the “progress at all cost” types. They did the same thing to professional wrestling 15 years ago and we see how that turned out.

[@dustinwroten353]

Hey Broussard. How about you tell mexicans to learn to speak english the same way you told Ohani to