Likely a Hall of Famer if Their Career Ended Today: Shohei Ohtani or Aaron Judge? | THE ODD COUPLE

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[@johnsutherland1688]

Ohtani will be remembered as an unicorn of the sport. That's all I have to say.

[@juliannechaney5166]

If Shohei's career ended today, he'll be a legend.

[@dougphamtexas2707]

SHOHEI has a lot more value then JUDGE because pitching is a lot harder to do.......

[@fated316]

Ohtani is the most amazing baseball player ever.

[@brandonfletcher7173]

No

[@fated316]

@@brandonfletcher7173 right cause you have done so much in your life that is amazing

[@brandonfletcher7173]

@@fated316 the most hrs by ANY player , including bonds btw . In the first 1000 games is 279 . Judge has 289 hrs in 924 games lol . And he may win another mvp this yr . U cant keep a 2 time mvp with the al home run record out of the HOF . Stop replying with pride and look at the numbers

[@greggibson33]

@@fated316 He thinks LeBron is most amazing baseball player ever.

[@brandonfletcher7173]

@@fated316 judge is also 1 of 5 guys in history with a 1.430 ops in 50 game ; the other 4 are all left handers lol hes the only righty to do it EVER

[@Revenant36]

The absolute ridiculousness of putting judge over Ohtani in the hall is some WILD bias. A 1.000 OPS hitter who finishes top 5 in cy young. It’s OVER after that.

[@snerdterguson]

He has a .936 OPS, not 1.000 for his career. Only this season is he over 1.000 His only season with a top five in CY (he was 4th) he had an 0.875 OPS. And when he pitched, it was every 6 games. So 5/6 of his games he was a DH, which means he literally was just sitting on the bench waiting for his AB for around 85%-90% of his time in baseball. Meanwhile, Judge has a .595 Slug (10th all time) and a 0.994 OPS (12th all time) and has one of the biggest records in the sport. And when Ohtani had his best season, pitching AND hitting, he rightly lost MVP to the guy with a big lead in fWAR, Aaron Judge. So at their best, Judge wins. Significant Records, Judge wins. Placement on all time leaderboards, Judge wins. That's how you can put Judge over Ohtani. By using facts and not just blindly saying, he can hit AND pitch. Like I said earlier, at least 85% of his career has been spent sitting on the bench while Judge has been playing right and center, with far less days at DH. And he has been a plus defender, probably should have been a GG finalist at least once. I don't get why Ohtani guys have to always act like Judge has no place in the conversation. I wouldn't think it is ridiculous to put Ohtani over Judge. But then, I actually bothered to look into the stats and then comment.

[@snerdterguson]

Pardon. Not a 1.000 OPS guy until last year I meant this year hasn't ended, so too soon to say he will be at or over 1.000 at the end.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@snerdterguson you forgot last season ? LOL ...

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@snerdterguson I'm still waiting for you to have a point ... he's a legend right now. Nobody hits like Ohtani off Tommy John surgery. You just pretend this is no big deal. LOL

[@NYC164]

Rob Parker is ode bias 😂

[@LuigiAlva714]

Shohei is already worthy. Not quite sure about Judge yet.

[@brandonfletcher7173]

Are u dumb lol , judge will be mvp this yr and this will be his 3rd yr out of 7 full yrs hitting over 50 homers

[@tonywong8134]

Aaron Judge has a 7.7 career WAR higher than Shohei due to playing 2 more seasons. His rookie year Aaron was a negative WAR. Additionally he said Shohei hasn't won a Cy Young, but he finished 4th in 2022 and was essentially the team's ace. No one expects Shohei to win the Cy Young while batting with essentially a 1.000 OPS, that's too monumental of a task but to do what he has done the last couple of seasons it's crazy that you would put Judge in before Ohtani...especially what he has done for the sport internationally. But Judge is a beast, no doubt about it.

[@TheChrisf95]

They both deserve to get in

[@LuigiAlva714]

History will remember Shohei 50 years from now as a unicorn. Not sure if Judge is as iconic...

[@greggibson33]

@@LuigiAlva714 Correct answer.

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[@JohnSmith-nj4zq]

No one will remember Judge in 20 years. More people will remember Trout than him. Shohei will be remembered forever not as Angels or Dodgers, but as the GOAT if he gets a couple of Championships on his resume.

[@mattc3929]

Shohei is a lock. He's clearly the most talented and gifted player of all time. 2 x MVP is no joke

[@sixtynine2856]

Soon to be 3 time MVP.

[@greggibson33]

Plus unanimous.

[@bern717]

The Jokic of MLB

[@mattc3929]

@@bern717 My man! Well said. Joker is the best player in the NBA.

[@BenDover-vs7ih]

For reals. No doubt.

[@1ZosoLZ]

ShoGOAT GOATani

[@lion3000hkhk]

Very important thing is, Shohei is no doubt to be Hall of Fame, MVP, etc, then we focus on the other. That’s why always think we did not talk about him not enough

[@baronvg]

I think it’s obvious Shohei has way more cred to get in considering he plays both ways, and does it WELL, he also played multiple seasons in Japan (another professional league) and has a WBC championship.

[@podcat0185]

Do this convo for Judge alone and leave Ohtani out of it. But you WON'T because you need the CLICKS. Lmfao, clickbait clowns always cloutchasing of Ohtani's name 🤣🤣🤣

[@CrUzAdErKhIdD]

Without even watching the video yet, I can already tell what 💩 Rob will pull outta his ass to hate on Shohei and belittle his accomplishments.. 😅

[@CrUzAdErKhIdD]

Just watched it and yep I was right. 😅😂 clown really pulled a “he hasn’t made an impact!” When Shohei is literally saving Baseball… 😅😂

[@maynetayn]

Ohtani fasho!!!

[@winterking9799]

I loke how Rob Parket easily disregarded Ohtani "we get it he hits and pitch.." like bro are you brain-dead? He has 2 unanimous MVP, no one has done that.. 3 silver slugger DH, I like all together 5 all-star (including both DH and SP) 3 all mlb team, like 2 all mlb 2 team, WBC champioship, 1 WBC MVP.. he has broken a lot of records.. 700 million dollar player, no one is getting more than that for the next 2 decades.. and more.. and that is only his MLB stats.. if you incorporate Japan.. he has won every award possible there.. that's the King of Baseball like wtf you on about mate

[@Galactic123]

At this point you couldn't tell the story of baseball without talking about Shohei Ohtani.

[@pjscafe]

People call Shohei the Unicorn or the GOAT constantly. Judge, he's just a good hitter. People will still remember Shohei 100 yrs from now. Doubt anyone will even know Judge plays baseball then.

[@i-chunhuang8413]

Agreed with Chris. Both Ohtani and Judge need some more longevity. However if both careers end today, Ohtani has a better chance because he pitched and hit for three seasons that no one ever has done before

[@dariusfountain683]

Thats crazy mike trout , shohei othani, Aaron judge, pete alonso have combine too win a total of 3 playoff series combined

[@mattmolt-bb1iw]

It’s not like basketball where one guy in baseball can swing your season one way or another

[@dariusfountain683]

@@mattmolt-bb1iw it doesn't matter for Mike trout and othani too have won a total of 5 mvps and never won one playoff is obsurb

[@mattmolt-bb1iw]

@@dariusfountain683 like I said baseball there is multiple factors, pitching, hitting, slumps, one player won’t change your fortune

[@greggibson33]

Irrelevant.

[@dariusfountain683]

@@mattmolt-bb1iw they 🗑️🗑️🗑️

[@Ksmoove39]

Love it. You guys are the only ones that talk baseball sadly. If it wasn’t for Rob I don’t know of you would

[@BobbyU808]

“shohei… but… judge has a few things going for him. first of all, he’s black” rob

[@aznnp77]

I was going to say yes, but then I remember that Johan Santana is not in the hall of fame. He had one of the best 5 year periods of any player ever. 4 All Star Games, 2 Cy Youngs, 1 Triple Crown, Led the league in strikeouts 3 times, Lead the league in ERA 3 times. He's not in the hall of fame, then neither should Judge or Ohtani be. They haven't had 4 years each at the very top of the league.

[@Saucelight88]

I’m really starting to have a big appreciation for baseball as I get older love the baseball conversations

[@KarenDesantissCat-uv9hd]

What planet is Rob on?

[@DallasTechie]

NO one from the past, even the great Babe Ruth can do what Ohtani is doing. And NO ONE in today's game can do it. And lastly, NO ONE in the future is likely to be able to do what he's doing at such a high level. GOAT.

[@matthewgabbard6415]

I would have loved to hear that Mattingly take but Broussard couldn't keep his mouth shut long enough for Rob to give it. He tried twice, smh

[@SmartDave60]

If Mattingly isn’t in then Judge isn’t in.

[@davidcovington1046]

Yeah exactly, he is annoying sometimes

[@myfirstvideowarningdonotwa1168]

😂

[@magicrug1278]

Chris was talking already rob was trying to interject and when he got his chance to talk 5 seconds later he chose not to talk about it

[@matthewgabbard6415]

@@magicrug1278 Because he forgot by that point. Nobody wants to hear Broussard on baseball

[@jeromekicks8925]

That boy Chris can talk over ppl with the best of them lol it’s like his headphones don’t t even work. He don’t hear anybody

[@davidcovington1046]

Yeah exactly 😂

[@1ZosoLZ]

Lmaoo

[@rg2884]

Judge is a beast but Shohei is the GOAT. Y’all forgetting the last World Baseball Classic,. Ohtani is a genuine world champ too.

[@sumandsubstance7881]

Lol a Mickey Mouse tournament where they went through powerhouses like team Australia Korea China and got lucky vs Mexico and America. Wow! A maximum of like 7 games!! Oh shyt, that's much more impressive than winning a World Series after going through a 162 reg season games!

[@rg2884]

@@sumandsubstance7881 Well, Japan has “got lucky” 3 out of 5 times. The USA, despite home field advantage for the finals, has only won this Mickey Mouse tournament once. I guess that makes them goofy? Or just shitty at baseball?

[@natureredux1957]

I grew listening to Baseball on the Radio. My favorite team was the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1979. You recall the We are Family, I got my family me theme back then aka Sister Sledge. Guys like Dave Parker the Cobra, Willie Stargell and Bill Madlock. So you mentioned the Hall of FAME and apparently only Willie has gotten in. I recall those 3 as been pretty good hitters. I looked up Judge stats, don't get why anyone thinks he deserves to be anywhere Near the Hall of Fame.

[@greggibson33]

Madlock multiple batting champion. Not in.

[@no30036]

Not an “or” question but “and” . Both may end up top ten all time

[@Dipset415]

Thank you for talking baseball 💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤤

[@jumahbrady670]

Facts 💯

[@Ffollies]

Both would be borderline HOF if they retired today. Hopefully they both have long careers ahead of them as I enjoy watching both.

[@Trill_Tour]

Shohei is a 2 time unanimous MVP. He would be a lock

[@Ffollies]

@@Trill_Tour Not a lock. His WAR is only about 40, which is at the very low end of being in the HOF. He's only in his 7th season. He's great, but he hasn't played long enough yet.

[@MTranFitness]

Shohei and Judge right now would respectively have a more fabled career than... *checks inductees* Todd Helton. lol

[@straightfacts6482]

Freddie Freeman a .300 hitter I can see him in the hall of fame

[@greggibson33]

Dime a dozen.

[@Ffollies]

I think Freddie is a near lock even if he retires today. He'll probably finish with a career average under .300 but .300 doesn't mean that much these days. It's more about OBP and SLG percentage these days.

[@user-xt7wt8yz5d]

What a silly question! Both of them are awesome. But if I had to pick just one, it'll undoubtedly be Shohei.

[@mgh62000]

Quite possibly the 2 GOATs

[@michaelohare9217]

Judge otani Harper trout Verlander Kershaw all definitely getting in

[@greggibson33]

No on Verlander. Proven cheater.

[@Dipset415]

Betts💪🏿

[@realspitter2727]

Chris mentions players getting hurt more than anybody on media. He’s obsessed with it

[@RaulGuzman-jo3nr]

Two guys can't go wrong

[@cdmix2709]

Shohei has the arm, the speed on base, the power at the bat. Take it Judge has the power has the most home runs in a season and possibly beat his own home run record but he can't run as fast as Shohei. Judge does have a strong arm and plays the outfield though, I'll give him that. To me it's a coin flip if I had to choose one or the other and either one I'd be okay with. If they both played for the next 5 years and Shohei pitches at the high level and hits and plays left field and then his career ended, I'd definitely vote Shohei for sure.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

Judge doesn't have 102mph strong arm with point point accuracy ... come on bruh. Can't run. Can't pitch. Ohtani > Judge. You know it.

[@Ksmoove39]

Both would be if they have multiple but it seems the bar is lower for guys. If we are letting guys in on short careers I nominate Don Mattingly for HOF induction

[@strtupg]

Judge will need 600hr to get into the hall. He’s too big.

[@Dipset415]

😭😭

[@ghingisoverland6932]

Making the comparison during Shohei’s non pitching rehab season.

[@STR33TJESSUS]

JUDGE AND OHTANI BOTH ON THE BARRY BONDS JUICE

[@manintheglass254]

It's not a ridiculous take by Stark. Aaron Judge's biggest issue has always been staying on the field and the question for Ohtani would be has he done enough TODAY in order to make it to the hall? I agree with Jayson that if they both suddenly retired today that neither would make it to Cooperstown. If they both retired today and I had to pick one, I'd choose Ohtani, obviously, as he is an MVP level offensive player AND an above average pitcher.

[@sixtynine2856]

Cy Young caliber pitcher when at his best. Top 1-2 hitter in the game when at his best. That's Cooperstown worthy, imo. I challenge the best hitters to take a season off and just pitch as an ace or the best pitchers to just hit as a slugger -- that's the rub with Ohtani.

[@manintheglass254]

@@sixtynine2856 Hasn't done it long enough. I'm sure you watched the video like I did. Ohtani has a couple of poor numbers up there as well. He's been in the league since 2018 and "only" a 4 time all star (*no asg for 2020). Shohei's the best player in the game, but he needs a couple more seasons at above average status to lock up his spot in the hall

[@greggibson33]

@@manintheglass254 Umm..... that's not the subject of the video. You might want to read the question again.

[@solenstyle]

@@manintheglass254 He's only been a 4 time all star due to injury. He's been injured a lot. He's only had 1 poor year (shortened season). When he pitches and hits, he puts up the most WAR on average per game. It's not even close. Last year he could have put up 12 WAR. So his peak is higher than anybody in the world, he just hasn't been able to sustain it with his arm. That will probably change now that he's on his 2nd tommy john (or rather something close to tommy john).

[@Trohl-]

Has judge done more than ohtani? Jc

[@Alart28]

After such a great take by Rob (in regards to the Lakers) ....this one is sooooo biased. He looks lost in his disingenuous words.

[@blinksstayfresh2524]

Baseball talk ❤

[@Ksmoove39]

Mookie betts?

[@terrancewilson3226]

I think Mookie has to be in

[@victorle7693]

Mookie is like Kirby Puckett…Kirby was a huge name back in the 90’s

[@Ffollies]

Pretty sure Mookie's in even if he retired today.

[@RaulGuzman-jo3nr]

Berry 20 det no o line n kick asss

[@yahcrack]

FREDDIE FREEMAN? HE’S SO OVERHYPED WE HAVE TO STOP THIS

[@brandonfletcher7173]

Judge doesnt have 1000 hits nor 1000 games played . Most hrs by any player in history through first 1000 games are 279 , judge has 289 hrs and only played 924 games lol .

[@ivanmorrobel1633]

This is insanely good and bad. Good for obvious reasons, but bad because Judge should've easily reached 1,000 hits and games by now.

[@brandonfletcher7173]

@@ivanmorrobel1633 true , he shouldve but injuries , late start to career and covid yr all in that boat

[@Patrick-nq6no]

Rob is wrong!

[@bmk5219]

Stupid question... both will be in the hall of fame. Only way they won't... if either one test positive for steroids.

[@DallasTechie]

Agree, the cat on the right is bias.

[@Jayoplantern]

Freddie and Joey hell no

[@greggibson33]

100% correct. No way. But Baseball votes for mediocre in the HOF every year.

[@reginalddavis19144]

Just say if they decide to retire

[@yahcrack]

Trout Scherzer Verlander Vershaw Altuve Harper Ohtani Judge

[@mirikaku5811]

Rob Parker is running out of reasons “If Judge was not in IL” well if Shohei or ANYBODY wasn’t in IL they will do better! How stupid he sounds.

[@brownredxx]

These two are not the right to people to ask this question.

[@fliplife67]

If they retired 2 day neither should get in.

[@Tickie82]

U guys should stop bring up Ohtani as a topic for your show. ROB IS ohtani HATER so everything he say is always so bias. Stop putting ohtani name for click bait when u refuse to acknowledge how good ohtani is.

[@coreyeatmon5101]

Maybe but they'd have to wait 40 unnecessary years

[@sumandsubstance7881]

Judge

[@MyLife-og2kr]

Did i really think any different when it came to Rob Parker?? Nope.

[@lavellwilliams5605]

Judge is a hall of famer if his career ended today, ohtani is a no right now for me tho.

[@Samsonmanase]

Sho elite two way already puts him ahead of most but let’s see him do it for 15 years

[@Mark19829]

the dumbest question ever asked on this show.. NEITHER OF THEM!!! I know it's July but come on guys, you should know better. This is pathetic.

[@VicariousThePot]

Freddie freeman is a hof'er

[@mrjones4432]

Bots are out of control

[@AP-lf6qs]

Not bot..just a troll looking for attention

[@RaulGuzman-jo3nr]

Im lucky

[@timmyg831]

Sometimes Rob wins the argument, sometimes Chris wins the argument. Here, Chris definitely wins the argument 😂

[@logancolston8061]

Isn't Aaron judge like one quarter black? Lol

[@greggibson33]

That's plenty for Rob to love him. He hates 100% Asian.

[@greggibson33]

That's plenty for Rob to glaze. He hates 100% Asian.

[@davidcovington1046]

Yes

[@mirikaku5811]

Parker is so obvious it’s embarrassing 😂

[@RaulGuzman-jo3nr]

Sanders both bros

[@hugokloeppel3596]

Othani

[@18cmoe]

Rob is just a hater lol

[@yanchand3603]

2 Hall of famer (PERIOD) Enough discussion 😊

[@hardworkingcriminal4873]

Baseball topics is when id like to hear the least from Klutch Broussard. This is when Rob is fully engaged.

[@nsd_respect]

LeBroussard

[@jumahbrady670]

Klutch Broussard is spot on

[@tru3dialect]

Both HOF

[@fullmetal1766]

mookie betts

[@ImShinTaRokGuoBaePress74]

Sho and Judge aren't gonna make the hall of fame with their current stats, voting is not gonna give pity points to short peak years and what ifs The only way I see them both have the possibility without the numbers are longer peak performances that bring awards i.e if judge won multiple gg along with his ss, mvp accolades as for Ohtani his peak is even shorter than Judge, but got 2x unanimous mvp which that gives him big ups And I don't know what that man on the right is smoking with his Cy young takes like wtf? Cy young isn't a must for cooperstown, he's talking as if Sho has career 4+ era when it's actually career 3.01 (143 era+) even with 500ish innings is still impressive Given all that imo the one that has a more impressive career so far it has to be Sho When comparing bats it's Judge is the best no doubt but Sho is literally in the top 3 convo Fielding and pitching are night and day when compared since Sho is an ace to 2nd option pitcher

[@bernyourhart]

Neither of them, as good as Ohtani is he doesn’t have a HoF pitching or hitting resume.

[@greggibson33]

Funny...... oh, wait. Yer serious?

[@sixtynine2856]

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[@sixtynine2856]

It's like saying Deon Sanders had three all pro cornerback season simultaneously with three all pro wide receiver seasons combined in three years should'nt get in because he only did the extraordinary for 3 seasons and not 10.

[@douglascarter2078]

Shohei's pitching arm is shot.

[@straightfacts6482]

2019 Anthony rendon better than all of them

[@jumahbrady670]

OH Really

[@mirikaku5811]

Take the award in making money without hitting.

[@FGrecoJR]

People always forget that Ohtani pitches but does not field. Judge is a great fielder. That nearly counteracts Ohtanis pitching. Who by the way had tommy john and isn't even pitching this year. Plus Judge is a better hitter and was robbed of an MVP. So I have them about equal. I don't have Ohtani over Judge so far.

[@user-df3op4jz1f]

What are you smoking? Pitching is like playing QB.

[@mikegilda-fz2iz]

A great pitcher can make or break a game. This makes it mind. boggling that he's capable of being dominant in both hitting and pitching. Unicorn!

[@FGrecoJR]

@user-df3op4jz1f Ya every 5 games

[@greggibson33]

Then you would be wrong. No shame in that.

[@Jayoplantern]

Judge is a better hitter than the gambler

[@greggibson33]

How's Judge's curveball coming along?

[@straightfacts6482]

@@greggibson33ohtani started back throwing yet?

[@greggibson33]

@@straightfacts6482 He's already been an Ace. That's always going to put him over anyone.

[@Jayoplantern]

@@straightfacts6482 noticed I mentioned hitting and the man clearly cant read

[@MrNaturalSez]

Judge? Oh, you mean Captain Zer0! All Rise!