Browns Made the Worst Trade in Sports History | 2 PROS AND A CUP OF JOE

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Күн бұрын

2 PROS AND A CUP OF JOE - Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington react to the latest reports that the NFL is pushing for an indefinite suspension of Deshaun Watson and won't accept anything less than a full season.
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@tristalacour2492
@tristalacour2492 2 жыл бұрын
Deshaun, while on suspension, I strongly recommend that you not schedule anymore “massages” 🙄
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve loved to be a fly on the wall when the Browns massage therapists were introduced to Watson!
@clara7920
@clara7920 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@guygoesgolfing
@guygoesgolfing 2 жыл бұрын
You know that’s first thing he did after signing that deal with browns
@blaqkmusiqk5057
@blaqkmusiqk5057 2 жыл бұрын
@@claymac7895 lol
@pete6705
@pete6705 2 жыл бұрын
No way he sits at home all year with nothing to do and doesn’t call more massage girls
@warriorj8658
@warriorj8658 2 жыл бұрын
And who knows if he’ll even be an effective QB after sitting out 2 years. It’s not like he was leading his team to Super Bowls before all this happened. The guy has 1 playoff win lol.
@Shootershane55
@Shootershane55 2 жыл бұрын
The browns and Watson already prepared for the suspension. Hence his first year salary is only 1 million.
@r.brown0294
@r.brown0294 2 жыл бұрын
genius. baker loom even worse fir jumping out window. if he bounce back theses NFL contracts are meaningless.
@c-mobucks4930
@c-mobucks4930 2 жыл бұрын
He's gonna miss this year and next. It will be an indefinite suspension and he can apply for reinstatement. They are gonna keep him out 2 yrs like Trevor Bauer.
@Shootershane55
@Shootershane55 2 жыл бұрын
@@c-mobucks4930 he’s not going to get two years. They’re going to try nd give him a year. They will appeal and get it down to 10-12 games. Nflpa has a lot on the league.
@worldtraveler8613
@worldtraveler8613 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Shootershane55 i was with you until you gave credit to the nflpa. they are a joke
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shootershane55 I agree. One year is bad enough. Two years would be extremely excessive. He's already lost one year ago of playtime. Three years would be catastrophic.
@thawkereynolds
@thawkereynolds 2 жыл бұрын
What makes this such a Browns move is that the Browns could’ve drafted him out of college
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
The icing on the top of this cake is going to be watching Baker ball out for Seattle! 😂
@theworkethic
@theworkethic 2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome
@dav2762
@dav2762 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah with no line and no where close to the same RB room good luck with that 😂
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 2 жыл бұрын
@@dav2762 He'll be better off next year when he becomes a free agent. Right now, he needs to showcase his quarterback skills for teams to sign him next year.
@joyboy7900
@joyboy7900 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnymason2460 boy u that optimism u got must be for coping 😂
@ishmaeldarjean2757
@ishmaeldarjean2757 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna happen.
@frankieallen0
@frankieallen0 2 жыл бұрын
The Texans made one of the smartest moves to give up Deshaun Watson for a dozen of future draft picks. The Texans have been dealing with serious problems, and their future appears to be brighter with this move.
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
They might lose some of those picks if they end up getting disciplined too.
@frankieallen0
@frankieallen0 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonicsky4126, I thought the Texans said they took the legal issues about Deshaun Watson seriously.
@kaboo2009
@kaboo2009 2 жыл бұрын
ITS THE BEST DEAL IN SPORTS FROM THE ATHLETE VANTAGE POINT, WHICH IS DESHAWN
@blaqkmusiqk5057
@blaqkmusiqk5057 2 жыл бұрын
and even better for his agent...
@shawngillespie3532
@shawngillespie3532 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about making out like a bandit😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ddc210
@ddc210 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the worst takes I've ever seen. Browns didn't make this trade for only the year 2022. Watson is 26 years old. If he gets suspended the entire year do you really think it's the end of the world for the Browns? He will come back next year at 27 about to be 28 and be their QB for the foreseeable future. These guys have no foresight.
@maxb9435
@maxb9435 2 жыл бұрын
He may be kicked out of the league bro, "Indefinite Suspension". Watson deserves to be expelled from the league. He's a sick puppy, and ran the NFL's name through the mud. Set aside his guilt or innocence pertaining to the 24 women, he still showed a pattern of disturbing behavior and POOR DECISION MAKING, which is kind of important for playing QUARTERBACK in the NFL!!
@maxb9435
@maxb9435 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle Indefinite means indefinitely, it's until they feel he should come back, IF EVER. Vick missed two seasons, while Jenkins only missed a week. Considering Watson's accusations are far more serious and abundant, we really don't know how long INDEFINITELY will be. That's my point. If they wanted to give him a season suspension, then that's what it would be called, but because they're pushing for an indefinite suspension it stands to reason that they believe he may need more punishment or need more time to wait to make sure nothing else comes out. Because more women can come forward considering how many DMs they've found when they checked his phone and how many "massages" he requested.
@maxb9435
@maxb9435 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle We're saying the same thing, the only difference is you're assuming they will reinstate him after he applies the first time. I'm assuming that this Predator has done more and will do more which is why the NFL won't accept his application for reinstatement after just one season.
@maxb9435
@maxb9435 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle First off, I'm sorry you're a Browns fan. I'm a Jets fan so I get the years of suffering. And when you put it that way, you're probably right. In that instance, given nothing else new comes to light, Goodell would most likely reinstate him. The internal pressure from ownership would definitely outweigh the external pressure of public opinion.
@15SilverSurfer15
@15SilverSurfer15 2 жыл бұрын
He had 22 cases when they signed him gave up 3 picks now they want the money back? They knew who they married when they gave that contract.
@Rick-ge9pj
@Rick-ge9pj 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong dude they don't want money back get your damn facts right
@15SilverSurfer15
@15SilverSurfer15 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-ge9pj that's what I was saying bro they put too much money into him to even consider voiding money. Sorry didn't mean to offend you Lions fan I'm mean 💩💩💩 fan.
@nels7347
@nels7347 2 жыл бұрын
I saw something about how the browns should be able to get out of the contract and I say no they should not they were the ones that were dumb enough to do it
@hface79
@hface79 2 жыл бұрын
Deshaun will play 4 years for the browns at least…..maybe more…these guys act like Watson will never play football again
@jessicamaxiell7832
@jessicamaxiell7832 2 жыл бұрын
@Rich Goldman ask tom brady if he wished he coulda took 3 years off..lmao😂😂😂....HED PLAY TIL HES 50!!!!
@jessicamaxiell7832
@jessicamaxiell7832 2 жыл бұрын
@Rich Goldman dxmbazz....😂😂😂...common sense tells you...take 3 years off in NFL FOOTBALL???!!!....ALL THAT PERSON DID WAS FURTHER LENGTHEN HIS CAREER....SOTHIS IS JUST ANOTHERFALSE HOPE...THAT WILL BECOME A FALSE NARRATIVE....PERIOD
@worldtraveler8613
@worldtraveler8613 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is that none of these women were licensed masseuses. so everyone knows they are sex workers. or women that on some level knew they were agreeing to money for sex. Watson just didn't agree on the price. thats where he screwed up. they wanted him to pay more cause they know he got it. the first woman told him gimme 100k and he refused. had he gave it to her none of this comes out. people are afraid to say it but as a commenter i can say it lol. so that has to factor into this. even dan marino paid women off, Shaquille o'neal, tons of athletes.. college basketball coaches too apparently lol. i dont believe he raped anyone. i do believe he screwed up. but i don't think he is a rapist
@cy4330
@cy4330 2 жыл бұрын
Try not to comment before you have facts. This civil lawsuit started with one woman named Ashley Solis, a licensed massage therapist with her own business. She is also one that DW apologises to and also the one who holds text evidences of DW threatening her career if she messes with his. And this girl won't back down and can't be bought likely the last one standing fighting him to the end.
@worldtraveler8613
@worldtraveler8613 2 жыл бұрын
@@cy4330 im just going off what i saw on the news a few weeks ago. Obviously more details have come out since then. Thanks for the info
@devonnemallory5935
@devonnemallory5935 2 жыл бұрын
@BROK it’s a lot more of evidence that Watson has that no one talks about but the sensationalism, makes them have to keep to the narrative! They never talk about the women or the fact the browns weren’t the only team that wants him! By the way these dudes are clowns 🤡
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 2 жыл бұрын
Mayfield's still on the roster, right? Tell him he's playing all year. It'll be good for him too if he plays well because he'll be auditioning for his next contract.
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
If he doesn't have the team to back him up there's not even a point. He has a few people on that team vs the rest that were upset with him over his behavior and were solidly on OBJ's side of the locker room. it's just not going to happen. Plus, he couldn't keep his mouth shut and insulted the fans as well. His best bet is to try to get on anywhere else but the Browns.
@-sensibleChris
@-sensibleChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@yallarenuts6497 when did he insult the fans? I also think there are a lot more people on his side in the locker room. Baker didn't trade Odell,the Browns did. Baker wanted him to stay. Odell, and his dad wanted him out because they think he's a world beater #1 receiver which he clearly is not at this point. Baker was a friend to Odell right up until Odell just stopped talking to him. Baker didn't even know where it was coming from.
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
@@-sensibleChris if he had the majority of the locker room on his side more people than just Chubbs would have come to his defense. Just to be clear, I think the guys liked him, but it's possible they didn't like certain aspects of his style. We keep hearing things about his maturity. The only way to get around that is to see how he does with a new team. The Browns are a cess pool at this point. As far as insulting fans, hecwas complaining about the people who were hard on him in the last year. I wouldn't call it insulting because I thought they were overly harsh, but a Cleveland fan that doesn't like Baker might. Just my thoughts.
@-sensibleChris
@-sensibleChris 2 жыл бұрын
@@yallarenuts6497 Probably true.
@coloneldusty4476
@coloneldusty4476 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t want him
@eldrewski1692
@eldrewski1692 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at how they structured his deal only losing a million if he misses the 1st season..they knew..and there are other teams willing to ruin their reputation attaching themselves to a predator, but the Browns came in with a ridiculous fully guaranteed contract like nothing before in NFL. Give a record contract to this guy..Browns be Browns
@ameerabdullah4045
@ameerabdullah4045 2 жыл бұрын
there worst draft pick was johnny football
@bobloomis246
@bobloomis246 2 жыл бұрын
'their'
@barithekid
@barithekid 2 жыл бұрын
22 cases but none of them are criminal, I wonder why?
@cocorna3282
@cocorna3282 2 жыл бұрын
"D-Shawn Watson sexually assaulted me while we were interns at Facebook in 1978" - Brian Seltzer, CNN
@kingllw2586
@kingllw2586 2 жыл бұрын
24 Civil Law Suits by 1 Attorney!! Unheard of !!! Damn Dummy!!
@r.brown0294
@r.brown0294 2 жыл бұрын
um ben simmons got a max deal with no jumper. and sat out all year.
@DOUBLEOENTLIVE
@DOUBLEOENTLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
The contract is 230 for 1yr he has time after this season to build back his career
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
He will have been out for over 2 years during which he was exposed to the world as a serial sexual predator. Humiliation beyond comprehension. Tiger Woods was never even close to his old self after his scandal and it was nothing in comparison to what Watson’s going through. He will be lucky to be a mediocre QB when and if he comes back. Think about his last game is 2020, he won’t see the field again until 2022, at best!
@drich8806
@drich8806 2 жыл бұрын
How can they say what they “won’t accept” when they don’t get to choose.
@Logie_Mills
@Logie_Mills 2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated morning show.
@cali4nia420
@cali4nia420 2 жыл бұрын
They prepared by bringing in Qb Jacoby Brissett this past offseason.
@DeCurtaRican
@DeCurtaRican 2 жыл бұрын
About 5 other teams tried to make the same trade. We know if at least 3 that were bellyaching after Cleveland “won” the trade: Atlanta Carolina Miami New Orleans Seattle (to save face post-Russ) Detroit?
@davet3659
@davet3659 2 жыл бұрын
It’s one thing to be interested. It’s another to give him 230 million fully guaranteed
@mrtnite9780
@mrtnite9780 2 жыл бұрын
They weren't just interested, they tried to actively sign Watson aswell only to lose to Cleveland's offer
@cocorna3282
@cocorna3282 2 жыл бұрын
CIRCA Sept. 32, 2028 - Raif Gorgonzola connected with Russ Maxwell for a late 31yd. TD as the Cleveland Browns erased a 17 points 3rd. quarter deficit in Clevelands 20-17 win over Rutgers University
@DOUBLEOENTLIVE
@DOUBLEOENTLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
They dragging it
@troublefollows9986
@troublefollows9986 2 жыл бұрын
Deshaun Jersey #4......4 unsettled lawsuits. Coincidence?... 😳
@Koolej98
@Koolej98 2 жыл бұрын
Very unlucky number.
@kbennett2587
@kbennett2587 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Cleveland and I can tell you that the sports radio guys are insane. They are still saying there is a chance he either only get six games or no ban. This is completely nuts here.
@JsPerspective
@JsPerspective 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆you guys have me dying 😆😆😆😆
@nels7347
@nels7347 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for Kevin stefanski
@madboyreadynow28
@madboyreadynow28 2 жыл бұрын
DeShaun needs to take the NFL all the way to the Supreme Court if suspended for the season. DeShaun has never been arrested, never charged with a crime and never convicted of a crime. 2 grand juries declined to indict because there was not enough evidence to indicate DeShaun of a crime. Again the law declined to indicate, 2 of them because there was not enough evidence of a crime. This means police investigated the women, interviews, phone records, computer records, video surveillance cameras and found nothing. So what is the NFL suspending DeShaun for? Because too many woman accused him of a crime?🤔🤨
@mgee1723
@mgee1723 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, yes it’s bc of accusations
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
Just a question, (and I swear, I actually do see your point of view, this isn't the angry female saying "how dare you!" lol), but what did you think of his text to Ashley Solis? That's the sticking point I have. I can see why a grand jury wouldn't move on criminal charges, but that doesn't remove the doubt of him doing something inappropriate for his position possibly 66 times, of the 66 only 24 actually had suits filed on him but from what I read some still had issues with his behavior. But as far as that text to Solis, you don't send an apology text to someone then also throw a passive aggressive threat to her if you didn't do anything inappropriate. The remaining 4 are there for a reason, there may be more there than what we are aware of. That's why he is where he is, on top of that just not being very smart. If he'd kept his nose clean, he wouldn't be where he is right now. He handled the whole thing horribly from the start and so did Houston and The Browns. I'm not saying he shouldn't ever play again, and I definitely think the owners who were caught doing things too should have been disciplined too, but ultimately, if you compare what he did to say Kraft, his was pretty bad. I'm not saying people don't lie, men and women lie allllllll the time to save their butts or to profit, but I don't think all the women were lying. I can't judge all of them as one any more than I can judge him for all. If he takes a year off, he can hopefully wrap up the remaining 4 suits. I could see him offering some sort of Kobe type apology where he acknowledges that the remaining 4 truly feel the way they feel without actually admitting guilt. Weirdly enough, something like that may salvage some of his reputation and then he can prove he's worth the money the following year.
@jsmith4094
@jsmith4094 2 жыл бұрын
He tarnished the NFL's reputation, that alone is a suspension. They don't have to be charged with a crime to be suspended. The criminal cases and the NFL investigation are 2 entirely separate things, with separate criteria to meet.
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 жыл бұрын
Conduct unbecoming, and bringing disrepute to the shield. It's the same at most corporate environments. If I get into a drunken fight with my gf at the company party they may fire me
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 жыл бұрын
@@yallarenuts6497 he got bad advice from the beginning. If he had said he had a sexual issue with exposing himself and he was sorry, settled with the women for 25k (which was the original figure quoted) and got on with his life he'd be preparing to start the season as a starting QB. Grand jury is going to be reticent to indict a bunch of indecent exposure and harassing behavior...even it's it creepy and disturbing (think Louis CK and his drama)
@floridagator1765
@floridagator1765 2 жыл бұрын
This situation for Brown’s fans should show the shield is about protecting the shield. ALL professional sports are about money and about betting/gambling. Most sports franchises make money primarily because of 📺. Remember, most franchise owners are millionaires in other businesses and have some of the best money managers in the world working for them. This situation is exposing sports and the money/lose is passed down to the consumer/fan also known as suckers. This is not madden
@SundevilRoadrunner
@SundevilRoadrunner 2 жыл бұрын
Drafting Brady Quin was more of a mistake then trading for Watson. This trade was not about the now. It's about the following season assuming he will get a full season. He will not be suspended indefinitely without ole charge.
@cali4nia420
@cali4nia420 2 жыл бұрын
you're picking on Quinn because almost all of the Qb's browns have drafted haven't worked out. Browns actually were prepared by bringing in another free agent vet Qb in the offseason.
@quintonmack9578
@quintonmack9578 2 жыл бұрын
Cleveland signed D.Watson for the future. They were willing to eat a year or 2. Watson is only 27 yo. He will start opening week next year as a 28 year yo starting QB in his prime and nobody will care about these lawsuits next year. Ppl dont think about the bigger picture. When D Watson is taking the Browns to the AFC championship games 4 and 5 years from now. everyone is gonna look stupid.
@AR-cc1cl
@AR-cc1cl 2 жыл бұрын
With no first round picks and having to play the Steelers and ravens 2 times a year good luck 💯
@chrisandersonley4521
@chrisandersonley4521 2 жыл бұрын
Yea because sitting out for 2 plus years has no effect. You don't even know how good he is gonna be
@waynekeeran48
@waynekeeran48 2 жыл бұрын
D bag
@dupreeaddison3395
@dupreeaddison3395 2 жыл бұрын
You know what it was when you signed up.. now you gotta run it up..
@thawkereynolds
@thawkereynolds 2 жыл бұрын
Babe Ruth from Red Sox to Yankees still worse trade
@c-mobucks4930
@c-mobucks4930 2 жыл бұрын
He'll never take a regular season snap for the Browns. He'll be suspended for 2 years like Trevor Bauer, then request a trade again.
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely. This is not baseball. Different set of rules apply here. Plus, the Browns won't accept a two year suspension.
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. Deshaun Watson didn't get suspended the whole season. As I predicted. Time will tell if he can play at a high level again. The fully guaranteed contract was stupid to begin with. Houston would have been better off if they had traded him when he first asked for one in the first place. The Browns proved just how stupid and idiotic they are. Baker Mayfield was better off getting traded from the Browns. The Browns are the most dysfunctional organization in sports.
@tru3dialect
@tru3dialect 2 жыл бұрын
Dude already missed a whole year, some bs. Those chicks were obviously paid off after he didn't wanna play in Houston anymore
@tru3dialect
@tru3dialect 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle all these women come out years later coincidentally when he requests a trade from Houston. It ain't a coincidence dummy. Houston was obviously salty
@tru3dialect
@tru3dialect 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle 😂😂 then why didn't he get indicted criminally if you're so smart buddy?? Shouldn't there be easy convictions If he was so obviously guilty?
@tru3dialect
@tru3dialect 2 жыл бұрын
@Wong Kar-Chazelle I'm saying exactly what I said!! They set all this up cuz they were salty cuz he wanted out!! Period
@johnusher8869
@johnusher8869 2 жыл бұрын
How stupid do you have to be to hire a sexual predator, and to give him the most lucrative contract in the history of the sport, they deserve what they get!
@waynekeeran48
@waynekeeran48 2 жыл бұрын
Sickening
@Capn_FTB
@Capn_FTB 2 жыл бұрын
Browns to the city of Cleveland: We’d like to introduce our savior, our messiah, our saving grace that’s going to win us a championship whom we traded our foreseeable future for… most importantly we’d like to introduce the #1 customer for massage parlors everywhere and now he permanently based in this city. Enjoy! Side note: how do owners allow to sell their souls for a guy like this KNOWINGLY what he did and what he will continue to do in THEIR CITY if he starts playing again, it’s not like he’s not going to take care of his body and real predators just don’t stop because they got caught. It really sums up their want for winning and what their owners really prioritize in order to be competitive. They threw the whole meaning of ethical straight out of the window.
@lordofdouchebag2161
@lordofdouchebag2161 2 жыл бұрын
all these article's stating as fact's are not fact's. Sue him in court and wait for court resolution before punishment.
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
The FACT is he’s put himself in a position where it’s impossible for the NFL to allow him to play. He made this mess entirely on his own. As did the Browns.
@dds_que7472
@dds_que7472 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you can tell they haven’t even read the court documents. He does have the opportunity to defend himself.
@allanhollis3758
@allanhollis3758 2 жыл бұрын
The rest of the NFL’s owners should be trying to force Cleveland ownership to sell, IMMEDIATELY!! Not only were you the ultimate idiots for going after Deshaun Watson and not doing your so-called “due diligence.” You signed him to a fully guaranteed contract, screwing up the market for a guy that won't be able to play. It's one thing to trade for him but giving him more money was pure STUPIDITY!! Congrats you played yourself.
@jessicamaxiell7832
@jessicamaxiell7832 2 жыл бұрын
What your hoping is he cant play in 24 because if he does...whats missing a year??...nothing but lengthening your career...and if your skilled at something...lemme tell you...you never forget....like riding a bike....muscle memory...never forgets....thats why u see reggie miller at 60 yrs old😂😂😂 still can shoot 3s better than mostly everyone not in the nba...its called muscle MEMORY....for a reason....dumbazz...😂😂😂😂😂
@dukurobb4134
@dukurobb4134 2 жыл бұрын
Bs and stop hating
@chuckrambo4401
@chuckrambo4401 2 жыл бұрын
He’s Done
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckrambo4401 How?lol
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
Until he's convicted of any crime until he loses any of those cases until he takes the field and not perform up to that contract, nobody can say that's a bad contract I mean seriously they just want to hate on the man just to hate on him.
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
OJ wasn’t convicted in criminal court but was in civil court. Do you believe he’s innocent too? Would you be ok with him playing? The guy is guilty, you are only defending him because he can benefit you. You want the Browns to win and believe he can help that happen, therefore you don’t care what he’s done. It’s sad and frankly pathetic.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@claymac7895 First off, you don't know me from a hole in the wall. Second, as of right now he's not convicted of any crime and he hasn't found liable in any civil suit. So how in the hell can you say it's a bad contract when nothing has happened yet? And if he settles or takes care of the other four cases serves the suspension and actually plays for the browns and they become a legit title contender how to hell can you say that's a bad contract??
@westrueblood8178
@westrueblood8178 2 жыл бұрын
I think the Browns had to know the NFL was going to come down hard on Watson when they traded for him, which is why his deal only pays him $1 million for his first year. And his not being charged criminally is incidental. People get suspended or fired from their jobs all the time for behavior that isn’t a criminal offense-and that is the reality that Watson faces. The NFL believes he violated their personal conduct policy. Whether his contract is a bad contract remains to be seen. If he is suspended for two years, well, that might do it. I don’t think his punishment will be that severe, but we will see.
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyguy7825 - By the time he ever takes a snap for the Browns he will have been out of the NFL for over 2 years. During that time he’s been exposed to the world as a serial sexual predator. Humiliation beyond comprehension. Look at a Tiger Woods, he was never the same after his public scandal and it was NOTHING compared to what Watson’s going through. Who knows where his head is going to be at when he finally is allowed back, who knows where his skill set is going to be, who knows if he will continue to commit these behaviors and get in more trouble.. I guarantee he will not be stepping in after 2+ years off with this enormous mess and be one the best QBs in the league, it’s not possible. And now for this season they have no QB! So this season is over before it even starts. One of the best rosters in the league wasted. All while Baker is now perfectly healthy, with zero lawsuits for sexual assault and good standing with the NFL. And who knows, this new disciplinary officer could wind of suspending him for 2 years.. Then what? He’s out for 3 years and suppose to come back.. Lol
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@westrueblood8178 again that is for on the job behavior not necessarily outside behavior I have never not one time have worked with someone who got suspended or fired because of any type of criminal action outside of work that they were accused of or any type of civil suit that they were going through I've worked with many dudes that had DUIs and they still kept their job and wasn't facing any type of suspension that's one case I heard one dude who was facing a domestic violence charge that he ended Pleading to a lesser deal and he still kept his job and not faced any type of suspension my point is is that the NFL play judge jury executioner with these players and they don't even know the full story
@sheraldhill2728
@sheraldhill2728 2 жыл бұрын
What if he’s like Tiger and he can’t play well without all the woman drama?
@chuckrambo4401
@chuckrambo4401 2 жыл бұрын
MasSage Watson
@MACSX7
@MACSX7 2 жыл бұрын
Code? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Alpha-pe7nz
@Alpha-pe7nz 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Cleveland, why is ANYONE surprised!
@louisloother301
@louisloother301 2 жыл бұрын
These guys are delusional if they think this is the worst deal in sports history 😂😂😂 They got one of the best QBs in the NFL that is still young. These dudes need to shut the hell up with this B.S. 💯💯💯💯💯 They are laughing about another person's downfall smh. Sad story all around 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@Waryan1
@Waryan1 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I only see heavy delusion from your point of view. Good luck 😐
@c-mobucks4930
@c-mobucks4930 2 жыл бұрын
He'll never take a regular season snap for the Browns. He's gonna be suspended for 2 seasons like Trevor Bauer then get traded again.
@claymac7895
@claymac7895 2 жыл бұрын
He won’t have played for over 2 years by the time he ever takes a snap. During that time he’s been exposed to the world as a serial sexual predator. Humiliation beyond comprehension. Tiger Woods was a shell of himself after his scandal and it was nothing in comparison to what Watson’s going through. He will be lucky to be a mediocre QB when he comes back. You can’t just stop playing for years and walk into the NFL and be one of the best.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@c-mobucks4930 Bro, if he's never been convicted of a crime and he settles all his cases or wins all of his cases how in the hell can you get suspend it for 2 years? He sat out all of last year. The worst thing they can give him at this point is half the season which is the most reasonable Suspensionbecause there is a thing called the Union and they will battle that and fight it to the bitter end
@c-mobucks4930
@c-mobucks4930 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyguy7825 Bauer wasn't convicted of anything either... Calvin Ridley got a yr suspension and that's the starting point for this.
@macalloway1
@macalloway1 2 жыл бұрын
These guys... Listen, Deshaun needs help and it looks terrible for the Browns but to say it's the worst deal ever is ridiculous. He'll be out a year and hopefully he quietly seeks treatment for his issuess but if he comes back and plays at his normal level it's going to be one of the best deals ever despite the moral implications. No matter how wrong it may seem morally if he plays average for his standards it's a great trade and if it happens the media will say at that time it was a great trade
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
True, but the flip side is there's a lot of marketing that goes into having a winning quarterback so that they bring in more money. He's going to be a tough sell outside of Cleveland for years. He he wins games, but try selling the jersy of a guy who many considering a sexual predator now. That's going to be tough.
@macalloway1
@macalloway1 2 жыл бұрын
@@yallarenuts6497 no doubt but I'd wager odell is the only cleveland brown that was very popular outside of Cleveland since Jim brown
@yallarenuts6497
@yallarenuts6497 2 жыл бұрын
@@macalloway1 I agree with ya on Odell, but he doesn't have the stain Watson has on him. Beckham, for all the controversy over his time with the Browns at least has the ability to be marketed without angering an entire population fans.
@ttmazz1
@ttmazz1 2 жыл бұрын
How many criminal charges?
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
0!!! NONE!!! Nothing.
@westrueblood8178
@westrueblood8178 2 жыл бұрын
Can you get fired or suspended from your job for behavior that isn’t a criminal offense? Of course you can. And that is what is happening here. The NFL believes Watson has violated their personal conduct policy, and they plan to punish him for that.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 жыл бұрын
@@westrueblood8178 That's different that's for on the job behavior not behavior outside of the workplace the guy is not facing any criminal charges and so far he's got several cases that are still pending four of them so in my opinion and I think a lot of others it's very logical that he shouldn't face any type of suspension whatsoever as far as his job is considered.
@ttmazz1
@ttmazz1 2 жыл бұрын
@@westrueblood8178 But why are u jumping onboard w/ no criminal charges? With 0 physical evidence? Msgs? But lawsuits 4 each 1? With the history of U.S. courts of Caucasians accusing Negros & vice versa? With atleast 22 of the 24 women coming from the same lawfirm? With each women just parroting the story of the previous? With all the Suspect White Supremacist jumping onboard on 1 side?
@johnnymason3265
@johnnymason3265 Жыл бұрын
​​@@flyguy7825 Unfortunately, that also includes behavior off the job. You can be fired for robbing a bank and getting arrested for it. The job has the right to fire you if you do something detrimental to the employer whether on the job or not. Plus, this is the NFL. They will punish players and coaches for conduct detrimental to the NFL whether they are convicted or not. That's a fact.
@MIkeyG-qc1of
@MIkeyG-qc1of 2 жыл бұрын
If it happens once then we’ll ok but 24 times. Their is something wrong and why you want that mess in the locker room. Just dumb
@5000G-x2z
@5000G-x2z 2 жыл бұрын
these dudes should walk light I bet if you went into their background there are women who would say things to get paid off of them they got lucky it didn't happen to them farting in public is inappropriate I guess a man flirting for sex with a woman is now inappropriate.
@DeCurtaRican
@DeCurtaRican 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if Deshaun will ever play again. Right now, Colin Kaepernick would be more acceptable to NFL fans - particularly women. Even Trump supporting women would accept Kaepernick more than they would Watson, as long as Kaepernick isn’t protesting - which shouldn’t be a condition, but is. Watson will never get another endorsement for the rest of his career. He will never run a camp or be allowed to visit after-school programs or children’s hospitals, etc. No female reporters will ever interview him. He’s done! He should pick another sport, like European football. He should move to the UK and do his thing over there. Maybe he should play basketball in China.
@johnnymason3265
@johnnymason3265 Жыл бұрын
I doubt Kaepernick will ever want to play football again. He's selfish. All he cares about is making money. He has no love for football anymore.
@hapjr77
@hapjr77 2 жыл бұрын
I see why nobody know this show. They have no insight! They laughing at their own jokes. How good was Brady Quinn? He was horrible 🤔🤔
@GOD-IS-REAL247
@GOD-IS-REAL247 2 жыл бұрын
I BET NONE OF YOU GUYS WOULD BE SAYING THIS IF WATSON WAS ABLE TO SETTLE ALL THESE CASES NOW I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN HIM A GUARANTEED CONTRACT LIKE THAT. I DO LIKE THE FACT THE BROWNS TOOK A CHANCE ON HIM BECAUSE BAKER MAYFIELD IS A BUM AND HE'S AVERAGE AND THE BROWNS WANT TO WIN A SUPERBOWL WITH THE CURRENT TEAM THEY HAVE NOW WHICH IS A GOOD DEFENSE/ GREAT OFFENSIVE LINE/ AND GOOD RECEIVERS ON THE OUTSIDE
@jsmith4094
@jsmith4094 2 жыл бұрын
The Browns are the Browns and always will be. They gave away the future with all those draft picks traded for d. Watson, and it will be hard to bring in high price talent via free agency with 25 percent of the salary cap eaten up by 1 player. They won't win this year, and next year they will have to start making hard decisions based on a very tight cap space. Meaning some good players may have to go. Besides, it's the Browns. They could have the best roster by miles, and still brown it up.
@jsmith4094
@jsmith4094 2 жыл бұрын
@BROK I'm seeing 31 million as the projected cap room in 2023, followed in 2024 by just a $ 470,000 cap space. At least that's what Google said.
@mrtnite9780
@mrtnite9780 2 жыл бұрын
Not guilty
@vasquezeli19
@vasquezeli19 2 жыл бұрын
Brady is biased towards baker Thiss subject has been beaten like a dead horse so bad by this show .. which I like But no one cares
@reddscorpion6174
@reddscorpion6174 2 жыл бұрын
Guarantee he doesn't serve a year... Fourteen team Wanted Watson.....Now that the Browns have him it was a bad move?...Who says they didn't expect this
@terryjohnson3042
@terryjohnson3042 2 жыл бұрын
The Browns do it again!!! lol
@werocktheplanet
@werocktheplanet 2 жыл бұрын
100% THis is what happens when you have a sexist good ole boy like Haslam and no woman strong enough to stand up to him running a show - ANY show.and on ANY issue, not just concerning sexual predators. See also Mayfield and Manziel. And Freddy Kitchens
@CookiePuss3
@CookiePuss3 2 жыл бұрын
Little early. Taking them to a superbowl would make that a false statement.
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