FPGA Gaming at Half the Cost! // MiSTER Pi

[@TakiUdon]

I need to start doing projects that don't take an entire year to finish 😅

[@thatzaliasguy]

Might be able to help with that.

[@daverhodus]

I built a MiSTer in 2018. Thanks for making it affordable again.

[@chace4804]

I'll buy them either way.

[@ryanmcguire989]

OLED for DS next?

[@remusracingro3884]

You're too cool for this day and age. Nice one

[@ultimatemacchia]

Bro really said "Fine, I'll do it myself"

[@CptJistuce]

Alterra, now Intel, is just going "Finally! Couldn't they have stopped hoovering up all our evaluation boards while that chip was still relevant?"

[@BrandonAdams1010]

In reality he didn't do this all by himself.

[@ultimatemacchia]

"Acktuahlly"☝🤓

[@Mong00se22]

A genuine person who puts others before himself regarding pricing. This will go a long way for you in the future. The more people who get into Mister the more you will profit in the long run. Thanks for being cool. I bought a DE10 nano when they first came out many moons ago for around £100 so I am gonna wait til all the noobies have bought theirs before I buy a second one from you. Need one for my livingroom but I can wait. Long live FPGA and long live TakiUdon !!!!

[@lukilladog]

Wishful thinking.

[@ClareHehe]

​@@lukilladog huh

[@lukilladog]

@@ClareHehe "This will go a long way for you in the future"... you don't know that. It is more like betting to lose, unfortunately.

[@gerboog]

that's not how it works buddy. Like already said above, that's wishful thinking. Big Respect to Taki Udon, he knows that as well and still did it.

[@shinigamiauthor]

"i wanted one, but saw the price, so i made one instead. youre welcome" its like a "wouldnt it be cool if..." joke among your friends, except that one friend doesnt just leave it as a joke. amazing.

[@Danish_chad]

You know its a good day when he pulls out the clear blue plastic casing for a console

[@EriolGaurhoth]

I'm so happy you pulled this off. I never could have afforded a previous MiSTER setup with all the bells and whistles. I know you did this as much for yourself as the rest of us, but you've helped a ton of people, Taki! I love my MiSTER Pi, thank you so much!

[@iamdmc]

I FOUND IT!!! $100 OFF!!! I decided to splurge and go for the full $180 kit - $95 after code and shipping. Thanks Taki!!! Looking forward to getting it when it's released in Jan :) My Christmas is coming a bit late this year but it's the gift that will keep on giving!

[@kenkwok83]

@@iamdmc wow. So blessed.

[@justingoers]

Found what? How do you get the discount?

[@JbombTheGreat]

@@justingoers Taki mentions at the end of the video that he "hid several coupons for 25, 50, and 100 dollars off in this video for anyone lucky enough to find them".

[@MrThetruthhurts]

Can’t find any of them. Are they still up after 24 hours of vid being up?

[@paulshealthfitness7922]

where

[@bearonguitar]

If you care about retro gaming accuracy the Mister is where it's at, it simply feels exactly like playing on the original consoles. Thanks for having created the Mister Pi and growing the Mister community. I'm patiently waiting for news about the handheld version.

[@zekossss]

I'm just grateful that MiSTer fpga is now more accessible with this project. The more popular it gets, the better for our community!

[@Deadite8593]

Just got mine in the mail from the second batch. Just wanted to come back and say thank you for putting in so much work on this. It is absolutely fantastic!!!

[@jasonames7452]

I'm still waiting on that FPGA handheld announcement.

[@MarginalSC]

Moved on from one year projects to two year projects.

[@atavusable]

I have looked at Miste FPGA for over 2 years. The DE10 nano price hike made me stop. Thanks to you I finally bought a full stack to play these good old games from my younger days.

[@low_k0]

After not having any luck with batch 1 I could now place my order in batch 2. Thank you so much for this. You did an amazing job for the community!

[@IamR3D88]

Same. I ordered before this video came up, and after i saw the video, they were already sold out (15 hours after posting). Has yours shipped yet? I thought they were in stock, but my order is still "confirmed"

[@peterschlendrian2850]

HI Taki, I just want to thank you for all the work you have done. You are making many ppl very happy!♥️♥️♥️ I ordered mine from batch 1 and just missed the 3 days for the free shell. So I went on your site today to order a shell. When i saw that there were still MISTER Pis for sale, I just had to buy another one and 2 shells. Before ppl getting mad at me, there is still stock available at this moment & a preorder option...

[@amiga_vision]

Thank you for the shout-out to AmigaVision and the 0MHz DOS Collection!

[@k.k9206]

Whoa, This is awesome, the price was exactly the reason why I didn't own one of these, that it totally within my budget! I'll have to grab it!

[@spapa9292]

thank you taki. I cant wait to recieve my MiSTER Pi Mega Pack. you are a hero..

[@alextirrellRI]

Thanks so much for doing this and expanding the community. I've been a proud MiSTer owner for over 4 years now. I had watched the project grow since about 2017 and when the pandemic hit I was finally able to build a MiSTer stack, and before the DE10-nano prices really skyrocketed. The project has only gotten more amazing over time, and it is number one in devices I've bought that just keep on giving. Personally I'm looking forward to your upcoming systems, as I'd love to have one MiSTer paired with a CRT just for computer cores, and a more consolized version in my game room with the TVs. (Truth be told: A portable with dock with HDMI and VGA would be THE device for me).

[@bedwablackburn]

Thank you for spearheading this! Ordered a full set this morning

[@Incaensio]

I've been waiting for this video. I've watched the reviews. Thank you so much man.

[@emmettturner9452]

8:32 For those wondering, four is considered “unlucky” because it sounds like or is written like the word for death. Some speculate that this is why the N64 security CIC chips skip CIC-NUS 6104/7104 (otherwise range from 6101/7101 to 6106/7106)… so it’s not just China. Don’t be surprised if there is no button for 4 in a Chinese elevator.

[@robbischoffmusic]

Had no idea thanks

[@AxiomofDiscord]

Like 13 in most of the west. I still find it amusing but silly when a newer building is skipping floor 13.

[@leandrojvss]

ty Taki. I'm from Brazil and just purchased mine. this is a good alternative for us.

[@Lougardeixion]

Cara, vc já recebeu o código de restreamento do pedido? No meu ainda está como não enviado. Já faz mais de uma semana

[@thickie-d]

Fried my DE10 nano a while back, just bought your product, thank you for your hard work with this and i hope you make some good moneyb- you deserve it

[@GeminiNight]

How did you managed to fry it?

[@thickie-d]

@GeminiNight Plugged in an amplifier in the same area which used the same sized AC connection but very different current. Moved the amp, not the cable, and one day the wrong AC cable was plugged in. USB hub had a capacitor spark up, the current damaged DE10 on the way through, although it does have some signs of life. Very sad, wasteful and expensive lesson

[@Eve619]

Just wanted to say Thank You for your dedication to this community. This is truely amazing.

[@thebocop]

Ur a friggin' hero for making these and keeping the prices so reasonable. A BIG THANK YOU.

[@JJiG]

I want Taki's handheld FPGA.

[@sibbyeskie]

I'm pretty much the exact target user. Old school gamer, all about early arcade/console generations. I play a lot of shmups and everyone who does knows accuracy is super important and very difficult with traditional emulation in order to capture very sensitive conditions like slowdown. And of course latency is huge. But I held off for years mainly due to the price issues. I dipped back in now that I got a CRT and everyone told me to just get a MiSTer Pi as a no-brainer. Though it appeared it was selling out very fast. I managed to swoop in at just the right time to get one from the 2nd batch. It's clear this is going to be the default and will open up to a much broader market. I love whenever someone can figure out inefficiencies and solve a glaring market problem. Very grateful and eagerly anticipating my MiSTer Pi. Well done!

[@chrish6373]

0:38 Full disclosure is integrity. Hats off to you.

[@Deadite8593]

I've been wanting a mister for several years now, but couldn't stomach paying $400+. Thank you for your hard work, I hope it gives you great success!!! I managed to place an order for the 2nd batch, not sure when it ships but I'm excited

[@OpoSai]

This is giving me couch multiplayer with family vibes 😭 I totally want one just to play with my 5yr old and show her all the old school games I played as a kid

[@PlasmaSnake369]

You could do that with something else

[@colbyboucher6391]

Could do it with a laptop and some controllers without too much trouble!

[@OCDRex11]

Not sure if I should cry or not that I just built a Nano MiSTer fully loaded. I knew about your setup with the MiSTer Pi but I was impatient. That impatience led me to spending well over $400. I almost bought the whole setup on your pre-order two days ago just to have it lol. I am not sure why I felt I needed it. Almost like mental reverse psychology lmao. This was a great video btw. I never knew all the differences until now. I get it. Well done!

[@eddyhg8098]

I love the passion you put in your projects man, I'm not personally in the market for this one, but damn it's really well done

[@v1x4z]

FYI: a SNES SNAC adapter along with a SNAC level shifter are exclusive to the 2nd batch, which has already sold out. The 3rd batch (available for preorder) has a NFC reader and four NFC cards as its exlusives.

[@ShamanNoodles]

Handheld mister console please! 🤩

[@luckyday]

He's stated this is something being worked on.

[@ccricers]

Someone did make a custom one on the BitBuilt forums.

[@TachyonGP]

This is something that I would get to play games like these.

[@ghallium-jv]

I finally managed to buy one from the last batch. Thank you so much for your work, i can't wait to try it.

[@TheShoe1990]

This has become the single best video game purchase of my life.

[@locked01]

We love you, Taki!

[@anthonyp2312]

The fact that you used pokemon CC as the example is about the main reason I would want this. I do want a console that I can take my CC file to the big screen thank you for giving me another option.

[@the_king_of_normies1501]

I can't wait for the super7 oled on v1 switches! Bless your hardwork!

[@baris7971]

I am so hyped into this. I went back and forth for a few years now but seeing the Price of the DE10 Nano or All In One Packs sold here i never give it a try. Now with your offer it was a no brainer for me. Cant wait to hold this in my hands. =)

[@nexxusty]

I've been waiting for this. Nice.

[@ultraokletsgo]

I'm proud of you, well done.

[@r7ndom]

Dune 2, Xenon 2, and Another World all on Amiga. A video after my own heart.

[@MillsGotSkills]

Got a batch 2 order. Just waiting for it to ship. Great work Taki

[@foobar2027]

Amazing. Good work, mate. I definitely will buy one of these to play PS1 games. Not now. I currently play on original HW so no urgency for me. Later, once everyone that need one urgently have one then I will buy one. I can wait, but I still greatly look forward to getting one in the future. Bravo. This is exactly what is needed in the retro arena. People with passion. Thankyou sir for your work.

[@buenogoodlive]

Damn, those discounts codes went quick lol.

[@christopherdoyle8081]

were they video annotations that stop working after a certain amount of hits?

[@jcarloz0]

@@christopherdoyle8081nah, the codes are still in the actual image of the video but all the ones i’ve tried say the limit was reached.

[@buenogoodlive]

@christopherdoyle8081 I only found 2 of the 3, they were both hidden during the Core showcase in the bottom left.

[@f3ryx]

Nice work Taki! Didn’t have affordable FPGA on my 2024 bingo card lol

[@knightriding]

Its nice to see other fans of Vandal Hearts.

[@philharmonic2251]

I cant wait to see what the next products are Taki has in store! Handheld fpga? Here's hoping!

[@jrherita]

Thank you for making the Mister Pi!

[@zubazub66]

This deserves much success 👍

[@Beyondesp]

Don't know where we normal people can put a review of the mister pi, but i just wanted to say, I was in the batch 2 of the mister pi and I got the turbo pack. It's great. So far I am enjoying setting it up and playing some games and testing it. My minor complaint is that the acrylic case is a little tight and I couldn't just pop out the sd card. I had to take it apart. And once I took it apart it was really hard to get the case back together. I am leaving the sides off so that it's easy to take the sd card out.

[@BrianCryptonixBradley]

Batch 1 owner here and I printed the case that you ended up recommending here in Astro City color theme. ❤

[@wobedraggled]

Finally snagged one. Can't wait.

[@Pngwolffman]

From what I understand Robert's PS1, N64, and GBA FPGA cores are not exactly "cycle accurate" because of issues with the RAM somehow, but they are still much more accurate than basically any software emulator out there.

[@bearonguitar]

Yes, because of Mister hardware limitations, mostly RAM latency if I understand correctly. I have used both the N64 core side to side with my real PAL N64. They are identical in feel with the only noticeable difference being that the N64 core had slightly less and shorter duration slowdowns in busy sections.

[@Aberusugi]

GBA is something he wants to go back and rewrite one day, it isn't related to the RAM. It is cycle accurate, but cycle accurate =/= 100% accuracy. Cycle accuracy is not the whole story for accuracy. The PS1 and N64 are not 1:1 either. Personally when talking about FPGA cores saying the words "cycle accurate" is less relevant than with software emulators where it is more difficult to achieve cycle accuracy.

[@Sim-rh4tj]

Mine arrived a few days ago. I have much to learn now about how to use it!

[@mcferguson81]

Obligatory nerd out -- ACKSHUALLY ... the PS1 core is 98-99% cycle accurate. I don't know where Robert's original posts are (prob his Patreon which is inaccessible), but he did extensive testing of the CPU timings vs. original hardware for basically all (?) operations. On the flip side, some RAM access may be slower iirc and triangle drawing may be too fast... I believe there is a missed cycle counter in the core that balances out RAM slowness by speeding up other operations so that it is imperceptible, and the triangle drawing speed only impacts a handful of games that are not using framebuffer. And thank you for creating MiSTER Pi and growing the community!

[@EmblemParade]

Simply incredible. I think this might completely transform the retro scene. I also expect it to be sold out super quickly and ... then we'll see if the Retro Make company can keep up with demand!

[@UnlockedANDunleashed]

Bro that is EXACTLY what i thought was missing from the market You just did an RKO to the enthusiasts

[@WMARUoriginal]

I'm patiently waiting for the deluxe PVM model or handheld you release. Whichever comes first, I'll buy it day one! So glad these are doing well.

[@TarisRedwing]

Cool seeing it play Tony Hawk so well and all the N64 games.

[@returningwhisper]

Fantastic project, definitely going to buy a kit soon.

[@nomi-non]

I recently got a DE-10 setup but I'm really glad this exists at a lower price point for those playing on HDMI. I would definitely consider this for a second setup if it had a more comprehensive analog output board.

[@TomCarbon]

I’ve bought it right away!! can’t wait to receive it \0/

[@geebsterswats]

Great video Taki! Just ordered the full kit batch 3! Been watching you for years and wish I’d checked out your second channel sooner as I just found out about your console from LTT. Can’t wait to be able to play arcade and console games perfectly, from a single unit. 2-3 months seems so far away at this point lol.

[@kojimayoshiyuki2728]

I have mine from batch 1 and Im loving it, looks fantastic on my crt! cant wait to get the console version for some friends

[@medianfidelity]

Very cool that you have it on a CRT! How did you connect it? External HDMI to SVideo/Component/Composite converter box? Does your TV have VGA? Or some other way?

[@NickBaysingar]

Just pre-ordered a mega pack and I plan to print out that case in some fancy PLA as soon as possible. This is really exciting stuff!

[@PIXELPORTABLE]

This actually looks really incredible!

[@Soupie62]

I bought one, it arrived today (10 December). Even if I JUST use it as a DE10 Nano, to learn about FPGA, it was cheaper than buying the original dev kit. Cool !

[@RetroGralnia]

Got first banch MISTer PI - and I'm loving itl!

[@Berg085]

I'm not sure if I'll ever get a MisterPi, but do like knowing that if my DE-10 ever bites the dust i'll have a much more economical backup solution, so keep up the great work! One thing I'd like to see though, if it's even possible, would be a change in the overall form factor. I think a mini-itx style carrier board would be great, and shifting the FPGA onto a card like the raspberry pi computer modules would be pretty fantastic. I'd be curious to see how that might affect upgrading in the future to newer more capable FPGAs. Being able to buy a new module and just pop it on the carrier board would be pretty fantastic imho.

[@edu.protazio]

I'm looking forward to the delivery of my board here in Brazil.

[@EsperHubb]

I hope the Turbo pack will still be in stock by the end of the week. I really wanted to get into MiSTER and this is the perfect time to get in.

[@Cujobob]

It’s in stock now.

[@SRC267]

Here we go!

[@rafaelnesi]

Hi @TakiUdon, how did you do that at 2:33? Are the controller and screen connected to the Mister via cable, is that some sort of lan streaming service?

[@MFOSOOO]

I must know!

[@A.D.G]

He's using the Peakdo screen that does wireless streaming

[@rafaelnesi]

@@A.D.G Thanks

[@mrttype]

Nice going man.

[@a9udn9u-vanced]

I never had an FPGA board and the last time i played on PS1 and older consoles was 20 years ago, for people like me, it would be great id there are side by side comparison between hardware and software emulation so we can see the difference

[@Dontrel3030]

I'd love to be proven wrong but I think any differences would be few and far between. Software emulators are building off of decades of iterative work at this point - Years of development, users playing each and every game and reporting back when something goes wrong with the emulation, competing projects copying each others notes, etc. The famous examples a lot of videos about FPGAs cite as the reason software emulators are some sort of problem are edge cases in SNES games that haven't been in any of the popular emulators for over a decade. I wouldn't expect many visually obvious differences on any of the famous PS1 games, but the PS1 had a _lot_ of games.

[@AxiomofDiscord]

A lot of people will disagree with what I am about to type. This is just what I have discovered. I think FPGA is overhyped for some reasons and underhyped for others. I also think the same could be said of software emulation. Each has its use cases and what I would recommend mostly comes down to how well each would fit your lifestyle, and what you are trying to accomplish. If you are emulating on a sufficiently powerful machine with a mature emulator the only advantage really of FPGA is efficiency. But it destroys in that category and the small box makes for a great living room item. Running Software versus my original hardware with latency hacks and overclocking options I can make an emulator perform "better" than original hardware. Without all that, there is going be some added latency with input. I never could dial in the input of most emulators with original hardware. I either was a little behind or a little ahead. Weaker hardware will have emulators for them that are not as feature rich and may be less accurate. Have stutter, slowdown, sound pops/distortion, missing effects, etc. FPGAs are lower powered than even these weaker software emulator's machines and far more accurate at this level and often way more responsive. I think handheld/hybrid FPGAs are probably one of the best use cases.

[@poptheweasel100]

Definitely awesome to see it actually working and in people's hands, and I'm excited to hopefully be getting into it someday. I'm personally waiting on the consolized versions, since I'll mainly be playing on a composite only CRT, direct composite out is pretty important to me. Though I still gotta decide on whether or not I'd get the more standard one or wait for the flagship, I guess it just depends on what the flagship offers. If it offers a NFC card slot for TapTo (or whatever it's called now) then I'll gladly go for it and make a ton of cards for it, cause that physical representation of games is pretty awesome, even if it technically isn't physical lol

[@carloswashere7787]

Wow, it’s been about 8 hours since I was lucky enough to get my preorder in. I’m glad I managed to because I completely forgot, and now it’s sold out. I guess there’s no turning back now, but I’m really looking forward to this new device!

[@choboutube]

Nicely done. I remember getting an import PS1 along with Tekken, bringing it with me to a shop to test out the TVs (needed SCART). I played the heck out of the Tekken series. I liked the Saturn too, and have a Japanese console somewhere just to play Baku Baku animal (great 2 player game) - I was disappointed that the light guns for Virtua Cop wouldn't work on LCD screens!

[@Covnam]

Great work. Looking forward to hearing about the consumer version you've mentioned before in the future =) Didn't know about the DOS game support, that's pretty neat ^_^

[@paulgarcia6259]

Missed you Mr. Udon.

[@trulsdirio]

Die mini Blaustein steht ohne Baumschmuck dauerhaft auf der Pflanzbank. Da hat man am Ende wenigstens was, das nicht schon am 25. in der Tonne lieg. Dieses Jahr gibt es den mittelalterlichen Markt von BB, halt in 24 Abschnitte gepackt. Das wird ein Fest!

[@ofeklivny]

What is the name of the Iron Man game at the very end? 23:35

[@silky.919]

beating analogue to market on N64 FPGA support is crazy

[@LeesChannel]

Beating Analogue to market is not that crazy, actually receiving your order from Analogue is no mean feat in itself.

[@bradlauk1419]

Analogue is the Apple of the retro handheld world. Stuff that's *looks* great, but it pretty much just prior art with a coat of shiny white plastic on it.

[@LeesChannel]

@@bradlauk1419 Very apt analogy

[@brandogg]

Thank you for doing this.

[@raxada27]

I will wait next opportunity to buy on site

[@koo3144]

Bought one! I can't wait. I hope one day you will be able to somehow create a MiSTER that has 4K output capability built in.

[@michaels9917]

I believe there is an fpga project in development called the Replay 2

[@lukasperuzovic1429]

You are right, the PSX core isn't cycle accurate, its slightly off to A: Fit on the Cyclone V B: slight nudges to the Sound "hardware" to run on a single SD Ram Module. (Where its stop being cycle accurate as its off by a clock cycle). There more compromises to make the N64 Core run on the Cyclone V.

[@ketzergon6806]

What is the last game showed at the end of the video? 23:28

[@seradisc2]

Amazing, I was just talking about how great fpga would be once it becomes affordable. I'm holding out for handhelds though.

[@PhyA52]

I just pre-ordered the third batch. I noticed in the video where it was mentioned that a second RAM stick would help the Sega Saturn core, but where would that second stick fit? I would have ordered the second stick, but I didn't know if it fit on the board with all of the other add-ons.

[@_Turbocat777]

Grats on the release, this looks amazing! Glad that you are making things so much more affordable for everyone. Question: I assume that all the coupons that you hid have been used already? (the ones I found said the limit had been reached 😥)

[@iamdmc]

yep all three that I found were used up

[@RetroRockGamer]

I already have one MiSTer, but when I get a second, it will be yours!

[@LeesChannel]

Thank you sir, you're so kind!

[@outerspacebass]

It should be stated. The de10 nano is a developer board. When Intel released it, they were supplementing the cost to make developing on it, affordable for developers. The de10 nano was specifically chosen by the mister programmers because of this. It was a match made in heaven.

[@denis480]

How's Golden Sun doing on this? Usually emulation botchers the sounds during fights.

[@NeoTechni]

Looking forward to the One.

[@Aberusugi]

CPS3 is also kind of at the edge of what can be done, it might not be possible on the platform without some accuracy tradeoffs, if even that.

[@LeesChannel]

I hope someday a MiSTer successor comes out than can handle Naomi. That'd be the dream... 🍥

[@hicamajig]

Would love the ability to use original cartridges like analogue platform via adapters or something for those who don't wanna rip and have a collection.

[@overoula]

amazing device, im really happy with mister pi