FPV - What didn't they tell you about waterproofing your drone

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nutsidea

nutsidea

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@quadronaut
@quadronaut Жыл бұрын
The scroll back at 0:02 had me rolling!! Awesome video man
@Maxbl4
@Maxbl4 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips, thanks! I also used thick silicone grease inside connectors to waterproof them. Only downside grease collects dust
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vladmimir! Enjoy flying!
@suzysheer66
@suzysheer66 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^^ yes, i use a dielectric grease in the connectors, all of them. Also acetone will easily dissolve conformal coating if you have to service it.
@MadDragon75
@MadDragon75 Жыл бұрын
They make rubber booties for the USB
@UNLOCKEDANDOVERCLOCK
@UNLOCKEDANDOVERCLOCK Жыл бұрын
Do you need to put conformal coating on your whole LED bar or just the connection part
@paulmakesthings
@paulmakesthings 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Gives me a lot more confidence to actually trust the quads I've waterproofed as well as some tips for the next few builds
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
All the best!
@DrMacca
@DrMacca 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips - thanks! Really glad to have found your channel!
@madladdan
@madladdan 2 жыл бұрын
Surely you can make a plastic cover that covers the stack. Then have rubber opening for the wires.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
If you try it, do watch out for heat issue though. The quad can drop from the air when the stack gets too hot. Air circulation is crucial to keeping the electronics cool.
@madladdan
@madladdan 2 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea Yea the vtx is going to be an issue. Maybe if you split the housing for the stack up and had slots between each layer for air
@opts9
@opts9 3 жыл бұрын
Quality video! I have conformal coated numerous quadcopters, but never taken a real-world plunge - but it was really interesting seeing and hearing about your experiments. subbed!
@mrray52381
@mrray52381 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you!!
@illusionfpv1326
@illusionfpv1326 3 жыл бұрын
Most helpful video I’ve found. Subscribed
@shelbeyhollingsworth622
@shelbeyhollingsworth622 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!!
@ogrows
@ogrows 2 жыл бұрын
You can actually buy little rubber/Silicone USB port plugs for next to nothing instead of filling USB port with waterproofing you can just plug and seal. Makes accessing your usb a whole lot easier if need be.
@55yxalaG
@55yxalaG 2 жыл бұрын
That's a cool idea, maybe one could be 3d printed out of TPU or something flexible? I'm working on conformal coating my builds for the (eventually) upcoming winter but at this point I'm not sure if only a light coat would do, or if I really need to cover absolutely everything conductive. My initial impression was that it's only super critical to cover the small component legs that are less than a millimeter apart.
@godsun358
@godsun358 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome information brother
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bro!
@sunsetpark_fpv
@sunsetpark_fpv 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool experimentation here! Great tips! (that I am too scared to try myself) 😎
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely connect to the fear part. I burned a few ESCs and FCs before getting it right. Since I am not sponsored in any way, it was money bye bye and that was painful. Hence I summarised the experience and shared it here so that others need not go through the painful learning. Glad that it helped others in some ways.
@JaydenLawson
@JaydenLawson Жыл бұрын
RainX is hydrophobic (creates beading). I’d recommend something that is hydrophilic (creates sheeting/filming), like anti-fog spray for reading glasses
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the new perspective!
@TheDepep1
@TheDepep1 3 жыл бұрын
deff gotta turn that volume up.
@amerulwahid
@amerulwahid 3 жыл бұрын
nice info thank you.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me. My pleasure.
@TGiFoosday
@TGiFoosday 3 жыл бұрын
I tried nail polish at first because it was cheap and always available but noticed after awhile that it would start looking different and nasty. Probably due to component heat but after a few cameras mysteriously died I wondered if it was also conducting current but haven't tested for that yet as I switched to silicone conformal coating by MG chemicals (amazon) and have not had any problems since. Winter flying demands protection with open frame drones as even launching and good landings will stir up snow that can get on the electronics and cause issues or damage. With these FC components working at 3.3V logic levels it doesn't take much moisture between two adjacent pins to cause IO errors that can bring the drone down. It's Better to protect than Regret.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input! My guess is that the heat caused the nail polish to harden and crack. The moisture thus gets to the electronics eventually. Whereas for conformal, it remains a bit soft and sticky. Thus providing the protection even after prolonged usage. Good information you provided. I am sure others will benefit from your experience. Appreciated.
@TGiFoosday
@TGiFoosday 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea That is a good assessment of what happens. ** TIPS ** Conformal Coating is also UV light reactive! So you can use a bright blue LED or UV flashlight to inspect your application and spot voids to cover. You can cover the backs of and soldered legs to plug connectors, not the matting parts and don't seal the hole on barometer sensor chips and can be used as lite duty alternate lock-tite too. If your electronics do get wet power off asap and get it cleaned using distilled water to flush if really dirty and needs it, then allow to dry. Re lube motor bearings and/or possibly clean/replace but at least check them. Hope this does help others and glad someone made a good video about protecting them.
@skyweaver3199
@skyweaver3199 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man that was a really good video I just wanted to tell you that. I will definitely subscribe to your channel.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback.
@cyberoverkill5844
@cyberoverkill5844 3 жыл бұрын
That scroll up at the very beginning XD
@derelictfpv
@derelictfpv 2 жыл бұрын
Great tips. I killed a gyro conformal coating and fried another, not sure why. I conformaled it over well. Hey what do you do for your XT 30/60 plug and battery balance wire?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
the XT30/60 plug doesn't need any protection because they are already quite isolated by the plug. I am not sure why the gyro fried. Do keep the coating thin to allow heat to dissipate well. But that's just my guess. There is no need to cover the components except for the electrical contacts. The conformal/nail polish is to prevent short circuits due to close proximity of the terminals. Hope it works for you on your next try.
@derelictfpv
@derelictfpv 2 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea Thanks for the tips again. That MG Chemicals 422C silicone coating doesn't appear to be that good. It can flake off fairly easy. I'm trying clear RTV silicone this time. It may be another fail but at least I tried.
@neofotografie
@neofotografie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, very informative! I'm in the process myself and wondering: how to you handle the small PH xx plugs from ESC to FC ? Or a pluged VTX ?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I first connect them, test the flight to make sure that everything works well, before covering them with the conformal coat. Do understand that once you coat them, it is rather difficult to separate them without harming the connecting cables. Hence do it ONLY after testing everything works fine. Alternatively, use blue tag and wrap them around the sockets. Works as well too.
@neofotografie
@neofotografie 2 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea Wow, thanks for those hints, valuable ;) And thanks for the super fast reply.
@VIREGAnet
@VIREGAnet 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget don't cover your barometer sensor if any...
@JankoBros
@JankoBros 2 жыл бұрын
hello is there any issues with overheating using dji fpv system?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
Important to turn the temperature control to ON. (you can set it in the DJI goggles) that way the high power mode only kicks in when armed for flying. When flying, with good airflow, it is not an issue. When not flying, it is in low power mode, so that is not an issue at all. Even if you have the temperature control at OFF, on Vista, it takes quite some time before it gets too hot in hot weather. But if you have the Air Unit, it gets hot very fast.
@Xplicit_fpv
@Xplicit_fpv 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@ethanandrews5964
@ethanandrews5964 3 жыл бұрын
super helpful cheers
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know.
@HowardPhillips46
@HowardPhillips46 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video hopefully I can get a reply, I'm looking to waterproof my Long Range Quad are the brushless motors waterproof or how would someone waterproof them? I can't find anything on that. Thanks
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
Hi. There is no need to waterproof the motors. They can even operate without fail in water.
@KolibriFPV
@KolibriFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks! What do you use fpr waterproofing? Silicone? Acrylic?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
For the electronics, conformal coating. For the camera body, I would suggest using glue from the hot glue gun.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Nail polish would work for the FC and ESC as well. I won't suggest silicon although theoretically it will insulated the boards from water. But you don't want a thick layer on the boards because you want good heat dissipation. Else the temperature will run up high very fast.
@sarah.dxv3
@sarah.dxv3 3 жыл бұрын
informative video, thank you :D
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know.
@AndreasFelix
@AndreasFelix 2 жыл бұрын
@nutsidea how do the moters take the dipping into water? is there anything to consinder?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andreas. There is no need to worry about soaking the motors in water. The motors are brushless and don't get affected by the dip.
@AndreasFelix
@AndreasFelix 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nutsidea thank you for the fast response. will coat my thoothpick for the winter season.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndreasFelix That's awesome! Wished I had a snowy landscape to fly around too. All the best!
@TheNonamon
@TheNonamon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video ! It’s all I needed, you genuinely answered all the questions I had after watching all the waterproofing tutorials on KZbin :) One question though : what about the XT60 connector ? Does it need to be waterproofed one way or another ?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the trouble to inform me. Appreciated.
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
No the XT60 does not need to be waterproofed because the pins are separated and too far apart for electrical to cause any issue. It is when the connectors are very close together that water can become an issue.
@MrPhilbautista
@MrPhilbautista 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea No issues even when submerged?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrPhilbautista no damaged issues. However the video transmission and the radio signals drop-off dramatically when the drone is under water. Thus, you will lose connectivity when the drone is about 5-10 cm submerged. Otherwise it is fine. You will see your LEDS still on even when the drone is under water. But do not. As prevention, always unplug with the drone submerged. Either that or immediately unplug lifting the drone out of water.
@MrPhilbautista
@MrPhilbautista 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea Thanks. What if the antenna is high enough to stick out of the water? If there's nothing interfering with the propellers, is it still possible to fly it out of the water? I've seen it done but no idea what motors they use.
@R.B_B
@R.B_B Жыл бұрын
What I'd that "blue tag or tack" you wrap rge connectors
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
I presume you are asking me what is that blue tack? Pls refer to this: diy.bostik.com/en-SG/products/stationery-craft/blu-tack
@R.B_B
@R.B_B Жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea Yes. Thanks
@krashskwad852
@krashskwad852 3 жыл бұрын
Nice bro..very informative.thank u🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@djilly75
@djilly75 3 жыл бұрын
RainX on the lens im guessing
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Spot on.
@djilly75
@djilly75 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much water resistant without conformal
@ShottaIbby
@ShottaIbby 3 жыл бұрын
Would the same logic apply to waterproofing a high payload drone? For example a DJI S900 or Matrice?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
I would think so. There's not much to it actually. Just insulate the electronics and exposed connections. However for big stuff, you might want to consider using silicon instead of Conformal or nail polish.
@WegaFPV
@WegaFPV Жыл бұрын
I have rush tank ultimate vtx which is have a like metal shielding on top of it, so can I coat it bu just flooding it from outside ? or should I open the shield(I dont know if it safe)
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
From experience, Rush glues the metal casing to chip. You can ply it open quite easily but do it slowly. Also, what I observed is that most Rush stuff come coated with light insulation already. So it is not necessary to coat it anymore if you see that coating when you ply the cover open. You can glue the cover back. However, do check the board yourself. Cos I am not sure if yours is ultimate mini or tank II ultimate. Mine is a mini.
@giulianobellettini5295
@giulianobellettini5295 3 жыл бұрын
do you have to coat some part of the motors? i dont find information about the motors in time to coat a drone, pls help me with that information
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Plus do NOT coat the motors. No need at all as they are brushless. At maximum, spray or drip a bit of oil into it. I didn't bother. I wash my drone all the time and it never is an issue.
@POLARISFPV
@POLARISFPV 2 жыл бұрын
The blue tack thing is genius but it got me thinking 🤔 Why can't you just stick it in the usb port?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you are RIGHT! Brilliant! Thx!
@o.x.o7797
@o.x.o7797 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! My quad crashed at water in 5 minutes, is still fine to use?, is there any components to destroy?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
If you unplugged the power while it was still in water, it should be fine. However, dry your quad thoroughly before plugging in power to try again. I usually place it on top of my modem box because it it pretty hot and dry there. Takes about at least half a day to ones day. Then plug in and see whether the ESC or FC are still working fine. Rarely does vtx, camera and crossfire get damaged. You can reference this post for the dip mine had. FPV -- How to retrieve your drone from a pond kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWXadIdre6prpNU
@o.x.o7797
@o.x.o7797 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for your response, my vtx and camera are working fine, so it may have a chances to damage later or sooner?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
if you are worried about the camera or vtx showing signs of damage later, worry not. It will take quite a bit of abuse to damage these two. Usually it is the ESC that gets damaged first, followed by FC.Bigger motors also are way tougher than the smaller ones.
@elroytan2851
@elroytan2851 Жыл бұрын
Are you from Singapore?
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
yes I am.
@syedmuhdakram8450
@syedmuhdakram8450 3 жыл бұрын
How to waterproof 4in1 esc pin that use connector
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. You first plug the connector in. Then coat the whole connector casing with a layer. Remember to apply coat to the where the cables enter the connector. In most cases, the connector can still be separated after months. But occasionally, separating the socket can rip off some stuff.
@syedmuhdakram8450
@syedmuhdakram8450 3 жыл бұрын
@@nutsidea thanks for your reply 👍
@andrewut7ya511
@andrewut7ya511 3 жыл бұрын
Im gonna start building my waterproof drone for the snow that will be coming in the next few months, and stock up on battery warmers
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! All the best. The waterproofing will certainly keep the quad safe. I would suggest to add GPS and the automatic recovery buzzer to the quad as well. It is not easy to find the quad in snow if you lose it. I am envious of you to have snow to fly in.
@thedroneguytoronto
@thedroneguytoronto 2 жыл бұрын
1 huge tips out a USB plub in the ports... DON'T COMFORMAL COAT THEM.. I don't care what the video says it's extremely hard to dig out comformal coating from that port... Plug the port and cost all over it, you'll be good
@nutsidea
@nutsidea 2 жыл бұрын
u r absolutely right! Thus as suggested earlier, pasting the blue tag over it before conformal coating will prevent the socket from it. leaving the blue tag is an easy way to waterproof it.
@djilly75
@djilly75 3 жыл бұрын
Wow nice view count
@nerdCopter
@nerdCopter 3 жыл бұрын
+1👍
@MRdeLaat
@MRdeLaat 2 жыл бұрын
just dont crash in a lake and dont fly when its raining then u dont need any of those greesy bs
@nutsidea
@nutsidea Жыл бұрын
It gives you the option to look at things in the rain. Eg. I went out flying when the river got flooded. Saw how it changed the surroundings.
I didn't waterproof my drone. Now I'm paying the price.
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