Fr. James Martin’s Flawed View of the Parable of the Talents

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Joe H., you are the man, so full of talents. Please interpret that in the most positive way!

[@atrifle8364]

I am finding you on all the best places on these here UTubes.😎

[@shamelesspopery]

Thank you, Father!

[@ModernLady]

“Don’t waste your talents!” Came for the theology, loved the language class!

[@jamess7576]

Thank you for this video. A big flaw is whenever a theory assumes Jesus doesn't understand something. It betrays a lack of faith that Jesus is who He says He is.

[@williamsousa4715]

My Pastor had a great homily on this and explained that people often mistake the talents given for the things you are personally good at. Its not. The talents represent the message of the Kingdom of God. The wicked servant was given the good news and buried it. never making use of it to make it grow. that is why he was punished. I take great comfort in this parable because when I feel how little I myself have done with this message I remember how the master would in fact have accepted the servant if he had done even a little to grow the kingdom but he did nothing.

[@chase6579]

Thank you for this.

[@isoldam]

That makes so much more sense. Thank you!

[@bethanyjohnson8001]

Happy Thanksgiving, fellow Americans!

[@synanthony]

Pray for James Martins conversion to Catholicism

[@Forester-]

I'm thankful for Shameless Popery

[@KimHmrs]

Hearing Sr. Barbara's take on this parabel, I just knew she didn't wear a habit. Looked her up, and I was right. Physiognomy at it's finest.

[@rushthezeppelin]

I'm shocked, shocked. Well not that shocked.

[@mattbernacki9282]

That was literally my first thought as well, and I'm glad someone else looked it up.

[@mangispangi]

The strange things is that the church has come to not only suffer a person like that woman to teach, but the church allows her a pathway to people's ears whilst she is linked through the church.

[@michaeltrumaunt]

I agree also confusing

[@stooch66]

I love Joe…one of the best out there. On quibble, “flaws” suggests that there is no deliberate intent. I think that is the charitable thing to do, but I also think Fr Martin has built enough of a record to demonstrate that there is a willfulness to his “flaws.” I will not go so far as to assume it, but it is hard not to think it after all of the different times he has done it…see Trent Horn’s videos on it. God bless you, Joe!

[@avg516]

There’s a difference between opening up new aspects of the scriptures and twisting it out of all recognition

[@chase6579]

It's really clear in the context that a talent is money even if you do not know what a talent is. It's also clear that it is a symbol for what we have been given.

[@MrPeach1]

any Priest who is following the church should be able to put 2 and 2 together. First the keep your oil in the lamps followed by the Masters return and the talent. The theme is clear stay ready. Thats it. pretty simple.

[@RealSeanithan]

"Profoundly wrong in a way that could be spiritually dangerous." That sounds like Fr Martin, all right.

[@CaneToadsDotCa]

The argument that there's evidence of economic ignorance in this parable is a bit absurd in itself given that the parable actually reveals economic competence. Both the servant with 10 and 5 talents double their investment indicating the writer understands (or at least intuits) a general market rate of return. The speech of both the master and the unfaithful servant align with economic theory that the return on capital isn't a function of the investor but of the capital (he reaps where he does not sow). The master even shows economic savvy trusting his servants rather than the banks (given a general market rate of return the bank would have returned the general market rate of return minus a management fee). Bad interpretation comes with bad theology. If one wants to read socialism into the bible there are certainly targets but using one that explicitly endorses capitalist actions with a good economic foundation is wild.

[@CaneToadsDotCa]

​@@CatholicDefender-bp7myIs your argument that "yes the economic commentary is an incompetent sign of the times but it doesn't matter because jesus?" Seems like a dubious line of argumentation for a Catholic Defender.

[@kathyweiland4732]

Joe you are amazing! I absolutely love your book Eucharist is really Jesus!

[@tomjue5128]

This parable always stood out to me as these ancient people understand inflation

[@sethw7399]

I've heard this homily a few times. Watched a video from Breaking in the Habit using it not to long ago. Something about it immediately gives me the feeling of false teaching.

[@MB-zn9vg]

It sounds satanic. Stay away from his videos and Jimmy Martin

[@nerlam1]

Had to find this video and I was shocked

[@rushthezeppelin]

Wow, never been a big fan of that channel but didn't expect that bad of an interpretation from him.

[@roysantiago9925]

I agree this is about entrustment (or the trustee) and not about the talent (or its value), thanks for explaining it clearly to the point

[@enteron]

Hmmm have been wondering for a while why no action has been taken for this priest

[@michaelrome3527]

I’d like to know about a servant who invested his portion yet failed in that venture and came back to the master with nothing. If the master was a shady businessman this servant would get treated terribly. Also, what about a servant who went back to the master with the same amount as the third but kept his mouth shut about the master being a bad guy, he just simply gave the money back. If the master is God, He can reap anything anywhere because everything is His, not because He’s a shady businessman, so the condemnation of God would be the fault NOT the investing of the money.

[@MrPeach1]

GOD is GOD if he gave you the talents then its because you have what it takes for the mission. It was what you were born to do.

[@crusaderACR]

The parable starts saying the talents are on par with their ability. The guy that got 5 talents was because he CAN make 5 talents more. There is no failing venture here. If you reap nothing, it's because you didn't even try.

[@drewbydoo4828]

I see this parable as further evidence of our requirement to perform good works out of love for our Master, which can only be done using the graces of our Master. We won't do good things for our Master unless we believe He is Master, that is faith and requisite. But unless we use the talents He gives us for His glory we will never be the good and faithful servant.

[@chryphex]

Something that occurred to me is that you could theoretically even grant that the master might've made his money through unsavory means and it still wouldn't preclude him being a symbol of Christ - as you mention, Joe, in one of the previous parables, Jesus compares himself to a "thief in the night"!

[@chrisflanigan7908]

Theoretically, but unlikely. Take note of the question mark in the following (Matt25), "‘You wicked, lazy servant! So you knew that I harvest where I did not plant and gather where I did not scatter?" It drips with contempt - "SO. YOU. KNOW. THIS?!" It sounds like the Master has just been slandered to his own face. Most lectors read this as a statement, not a question - which greatly changes the tone.

[@LauraMonge1974]

Spot on, as always! I hope that you had a happy Thanksgiving!

[@Joe-bc1kz]

I learned that the talent was money as a child in catholic school. It was always clear that the people need to use what they have to do good and serve good. It's pretty clear.

[@charlottelauzon3147]

I enjoyed the podcast very much. Thank you.

[@dynamic9016]

Really appreciate this video..Insightful.

[@MathAdam]

If I had 5 talents for every poor sermon I've heard on this passage....

[@ChristySilva-zo6ou]

Fr. James Martin's interpretation doesn't seem to make sense with the parable of talents in Mat. 25. But a similar interpretation, in the historical context, make sense of Lk. 19 version of the parable. There Jesus appears to make a contrast between His kingdom and the earthly kingdoms. Herod would have acted much like the king referred to in that parable.

[@killianmiller6107]

Fr Casey made a video with this interpretation a while ago

[@MB-zn9vg]

Both false teachers expounding the doctrine of demons. Not catholic at all

[@Real_LiamOBryan]

Yeah, I think it was about trusting the nation of Israel with bringing God to all nations. They were supposed to increase what was left to them, not bury it. The disciples do this, Jesus divorces Israel, marries the Church, Satan is bound, and the Gospel can--then--go out to the nations. I think that is the meaning, but--as you say--the application of the passage is in being a wise steward, generally.

[@carlosux]

im pretty left leaning. but the interpretation by america mag is definitely off. Jesus really wasnt mincing words here. 😅

[@bellottibellotti9185]

The tide raises all boats...one man's wealth does not make everyone else poorer. A job is most often better than no job. Although there can be abuse that's not how an economy functions

[@RandomThoughts77777]

This shows what the feminist hermeneutic is capable of doing to the human mind!

[@billymays7958]

Next thing you know they'll be defending Eve for rebelling against an evil patriarchal system established by Adam XD

[@buffalonickels657]

So, if the Old Testament reading is a themed tee-up for the Gospel reading, but the New Testament reading stands on its own then why do I hear homilies that try and tie all three together? Is the New Testament reading not related to theme but rather something else in relation to the Sunday Gospel reading?

[@shamelesspopery]

The Second Reading is on an independent cycle (although all three readings should be thematically connected on major feasts). We want people to get exposed to the New Testament letters in more-or-less order, while we jump around in the Old Testament to find sections that thematically link up.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

It _is_ about using what God has given you. What a pedant

[@sueseelie]

Are they purposely trying to lead the flock astray?

[@MB-zn9vg]

It's so clear

[@GarthDomokos]

Where does it say in the parable that the "master incurred lots of wealth while the others go wanting?" The rich owner sounds like an OK person top me, but had expectations of his men, and at least how I read it. The rich man also seems honorable, as he gave them a lot of freedom. I would love to work for him. "you reap where you do not sow?" sounds like every business that ever existed, so are they in business to lose money, and not provide? seriously, am I missing something here? Maybe the rich man wanted more money so he could provide more for his servants, and the third servant missed out. Maybe love your enemies and do good to them...

[@mikelopez8564]

Feminist and communist bible interpretation always raise my hackles

[@someonesomewhere6316]

I just happen to be opposing most of Fr James Martin's posts ever since pope Francis became pope. In my opinion, his views are always skewed yet a priest. He has ever since blocked me on Facebook. Fr James Martin is misleading so many souls. May God bless him.

[@MrMarcodarko]

love to see a joe vs Hulk Hogan discourse

[@Olivier1]

My understanding is that the talents are a reference to the Holy Spirit that is poured out by God, so that God's people get charisms of all kinds in order to succeed in their journey, and in the same process helping others, towards Himself. I suppose the more one sins, the more one needs it. Some use the charisms and develop it largely; some use it less; some ignore it. Then, this one is my addition: some possibly waste it like the prodigal son did his father's money and end up dining at table with the pigs😅. Not sure if my interpretation is entirely correct.

[@ronanjm]

No, you don’t get more grace for being more of a sinner.

[@DRWH044]

@@ronanjmcorrect, but you get more grace for repenting of your sins and humbling yourself.

[@gregorybarrett4998]

@@DRWH044 I think it's more complicated than that. Grace abounds to supply the good. There is no good of any description without God. If we respond to grace as the saints do, then grace abounds through you to supply the good to a desperately needy and broken world. Grace is thereby multiplied not only in you but through you to many others. If we sin, not only do we fail to be the instrument of grace to others but we also injure ourselves. In that case, grace abounds to you to supply the good of restoring, healing, reconfiguring, transforming you to be able to participate as much as remains possible to you in the life of grace.

[@DRWH044]

@@gregorybarrett4998 I agree, I was saying “more grace” meaning to replace some of the grace you lost, not more grace than you had before.

[@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast]

Ancient Egypt and the Bible (a Protestant channel that actually does some interesting work) made maybe the best video about sola scriptura that I've seen. Do I smell rebuttal material?

[@tookie36]

This was a horrible representation of Reid’s interpretation of the parable.

[@jonathanlaury2585]

Jimmy Martin has a flawed view of Catholicism, so no surprise here. But I guess his heretical style is ok with Rome as long as he's not an American conservative Catholic.

[@Diapason16ft]

Because Evil Jimmy is indwelt by Satan. That’s why he has it all upside-down. Also I Timothy 2:12…

[@seamusweber8298]

Superb deconstruction of the hypothesis that James Martin tried to foist. The man is a degenerate.

[@catkat740]

Seems to me she likes to “Reid” too much into this.

[@shamelesspopery]

You're in the right place to make jokes that bad...

[@catkat740]

@@shamelesspoperyWhat a shameless plug.

[@richardjackson7887]

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O POPERY son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

[@gateway6827]

I never thought someone could misinterpret that parable. Father Martin must be demonically oppressed

[@MB-zn9vg]

Yes it does sound satanic indeed. Not catholic at all

[@richardjackson7887]

The Talent is the Gospel of the grace of God but you have left yours buried in the dirt where the rust has corrupted it! Pro_26:7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. Mat_13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

[@richardjackson7887]

@@CatholicDefender-bp7my “ Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.” (John 4:22, KJV) “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9, KJV)

[@richardjackson7887]

@@CatholicDefender-bp7my You must not understand revelation 12 either for it is a rehash of the 4 gospels. Its not about money or any worldly good but of Christ “Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,” (Psalms 40:7, KJV)

[@MB-zn9vg]

You're OBSESSED

[@richardjackson7887]

@@MB-zn9vg yes, with Jesus who is my life

[@richardjackson7887]

do you not understand revelation 12 and 13? look in the mirror!

[@marvalice3455]

Alexander hislop and his consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[@richardjackson7887]

@@marvalice3455 revelation 12 is a rehash of the 4 Gospels. what does God say its about? what does your pagan catechism say its about? God or Man bro, you can only serve one master!

[@richardjackson7887]

That talent is the Gospel of the grace of God which you have still buried in the dirt and by now the rust has corrupted it! Pro_26:7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the mouth of fools. Luk_5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Mat_13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

[@richardjackson7887]

@CatholicDefender-bp7my “ And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.” (Mark 2:22, KJV)

[@richardjackson7887]

@CatholicDefender-bp7my Catholic defender and not Christs defender! Not good bro!

[@richardjackson7887]

@CatholicDefender-bp7my seems you have given up looking for that lost coin and you sure are not going to spend what you have to buy the field that has that hidden pearl!

[@marvalice3455]

Quoting scripture cannot hide your envy. Your fruits are not those of the spirit, but of the flesh.

[@richardjackson7887]

@@marvalice3455 that's right, Scripture only comes from God and not the Romans pagans beliefs. you must know the Roman catechism condemns all who have faith alone in God to Hell, that means Noah, Abraham and all Christs saints are going to hell. you do know Adam fell because he had not the faith to believe God. "Eat of this one tree and you will surely die." the only work he had to do was not to eat of that one tree! How marvelous is that fruit you are eating of that tree God commanded you not to eat from? By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw he was a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? Heb 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.