Michael Knowles Explains the Latin Mass in 5 Levels of Difficulty

What is the Traditional Latin Mass and why does it matter? Michael Knowles explains the Traditional Latin Mass in 5 Levels of Difficulty. Featuring Alex O'Connor, Fr. Brian Park, and Dr. Mike Foley.
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0:00 Michael Knowles Latin Mass Introduction
Level 1
0:41 Kids
1:05 Latin
2:07 Traditional
2:40 Mass
Level 2
3:46 Young man - Gen Z
4:05 Ad Orientem
5:00 The law of prayer is the law of belief, lex orandi lex credendi
6:38 What is the Tridentine Mass?
Level 3
8:26 Atheist, Alex O'Connor
8:49 Latin, a language barrier
11:12 Atheist in a Catholic Church
12:00 Young people are drawn to the latin mass
Level 4
13:03 Diocesan Priest, Fr. Brian Park
14:35 Vatican II goals for the Novus Ordo
15:14 More genuflections = More reverent?
16:28 Did Vatican II fail?
19:12 The Novus Ordo is here, so now what?
Level 5
21:07 Theologian, Dr. Mike Foley
21:55 The Holy vs The Sacred
23:37 Are both forms equally Holy?
26:07 Young People and the Traditional Latin Mass
28:09 Modern man needs an ancient liturgy
29:14 Is Latin an obstacle to participation?
29:31 Dr. Foley's Argument for mystery
31:35 Summary - Why TLM?
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[@greyforge27]

Not that anyone particularly needs my two cents, but as a nonreligious person considering converting to Christianity and Catholicism in particular, really almost the whole appeal of the Catholic Church is the tradition, continuity, feelings of ancient-ness and reverence and beauty, and the sense of communion with deep history and culture, which are all totally absent from modern life. Wasn't aware of the subtleties of this issue but now I have a sense that I would greatly prefer a Latin mass (have never been to one, there aren't any within an hour's drive of me - I looked it up) and I can now understand why people like J.R.R. Tolkien were so desperate to retain the Latin tradition in the 60s.

[@wiederganger1959]

You took the words out of my mouth. Including the part of being nonreligious but considering Catholicism, for exactly the reasons you mentioned.

[@kathleenhamilton7608]

Maybe once a month make the drive to LM, you will love it.

[@MylesGriffin]

This is precisely what drew me to the Latin mass. All of my years attending a NO Mass, I had 0 clue that there was something even more reverent, ancient & traditional. Which is precisely what my spiritual life was craving.

[@xxJ0xx]

Well look up the rosery in the Bible and you will not find it and many other teachings they practice so id be careful what i start converting to

[@xxJ0xx]

@@wiederganger1959 do your research, almost everything they practice isn’t in the Bible like the rosery and veneration for Mary, this is serious sin.read your Bible that answer your questions

[@jong3404]

The kid that said “The Eucharist” melted my heart 😊

[@vonhalberstadt3590]

I don't think I would have used that term in my Catholic High School years. Smart kids.

[@notcrazy6288]

Yeah that was a very intelligent thing for a kid of that age to say.

[@deborahjabara2614]

That, and

[@deborahjabara2614]

That, and the tiny one who used the word adoration.

[@461weavile]

Hearing that kid say it literally made me cry.

[@jlburns2051]

The preschooler said “Eucharist “?! Great job Mom & Dad for your strong Catholic faith & teaching your child properly! An inspiration to others.

[@joanl.7543]

"Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected praise".

[@judgmentaltoast]

YES! I teared up at that part. So sweet. God bless those parents.

[@tenaciousb4731]

I can probably name 20 other adult cradle Catholics, that if you asked them that same question, the reply would be something like "celebration of Jesus and community" or something Protestant-y like that.

[@lizf506]

Those kids had to have been homeschooled. At least, that's what I was thinking.

[@kingofthorns203]

I loved when the little girl knew the Adoration too :)

[@kemmow25]

those kids parents you know were smiling and actually bring their kids to mass

[@CoenBijpost]

I wish I had opened my heart sooner. We baptised our kids early, but I was still an atheist and my wife a cultural Catholic, simply wanting them to have a sense of their maternal roots. My youngest was already 5 and oldest 7, when I met my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and accepted the Holy Trinity as my God. I tried my hardest to get my kids into the church with me, but they never accepted it as normal and are now fully on the way of the secular nihilist I used to be… I pray for them daily in church, hoping that it won’t take them 35 years to find God, like me… 😢 These kids are blessed that they carry the Lord in their hearts from day 1 🙏❤️

[@CrimeTimeCrochet]

You can have masses said for them, you can have masses said for conversion. I'm 29, was a cradle Catholic, got away from the church, but thanks to watching and reading a lot on apparitions of Mother Mary, I have come home to Christ stronger than I ever knew before. Stay strong, maybe invite them to Latin mass; that was a huge impact on me.

[@lcunningham1776]

You can have Masses prayed for them, not just said...

[@bernadette8475]

@@CoenBijpostBless you for your humility. Keep praying. Our dear blessed Mother won’t let you down.

[@julietsancz3208]

Oh the little ones! My heart! I had tears building up when Michael asked the children what is the mass and the little boy said The Eucharist!...🥹😭🥹💘 and one of the girls said Adoration!🥹 God bless the parents of those children, And the children too, I wish I had gone to the TLM when my son was a baby, well we started going to the TLM 2 years ago after covid was fading away, my son is 14 now, but the first time we started going he was in awe and not just by the mass but the choir, he said they have angelic voices 🥹🥰 he was then 12, we love out traditional Latin community, very caring and welcoming new parishioners.

[@Phred1994]

Michael is very good at talking to kids. When they give an answer that is correct on a basic but simplified level, instead of saying, "well, that's close, but actually," he gives them the W because they are correct in the basic way that kids are capable of being correct

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Yeah, he's got a great way with chitlins.

[@tattedlace2086]

I was just thinking, wow this guy is great with kids! XD Not all adults seem to be able to talk to kids intelligently and on a kid level at the same time.

[@SirBlackReeds]

Now if only he'd admit that Trump is corrupt. He carries water for the Protestant blowhard despite knowing damn well that Trump admitted to a room full of evangelical Protestants that he's never asked God for forgiveness.

[@AllhailTDLjimpic]

Out of all the Theologians, Bishops and Priests that i have listened to about Catholicism, Michael Knowles, a podcast host, gets the very closest at convincing me to convert. Edit: Just to clarify i am Christian, just not Roman Catholic.

[@mdelg030]

Definitely something you should pray about. Keep searching for truth and your search will lead to Jesus. God bless you!

[@mathfrom0to96]

Always keep an open heart, even to silence

[@anoushpaz9795]

I will pray for your conversion

[@Oniathain]

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[@jacobcaeli]

Father Ripperger is also very good too.

[@lizf506]

I liked hearing about the distinction of "holy" and "sacred." This was very well done. Thank you.

[@ceceliajamieson1852]

Thank you for your explanation about Holy and Sacred...inspiring

[@kevinquinn1993]

Excellent distinction made. The discussion of that specific subject begins at about 21:55.

[@ThatGirlMoi]

@@kevinquinn1993thanks! I was curious about the time stamp bc I’m about to watch the video

[@kevinquinn1993]

@@ThatGirlMoi You're welcome. Happy to help. ☺🙏

[@sananton2821]

totally made up

[@SuperSaiyanScandinavian]

Honestly for being an Atheist, Alex O'Connor is a pretty respectable human being. I'd love to see a day where he returns to the faith, but for now, we've gotta commend him for genuinely trying to learn more about Christianity, even though he doesn't currently believe in God. Most Atheists stay pretty ignorant to the subject they're completely against, and simply listen to other Atheists. I think that's what keeps him a bit more humble, ultimately calm and respectful during debates, unlike his counterparts who debate from a place of anger and hatred. You'll never win someone over with hate, and just further the divide.

[@jeremias-serus]

He'll come back around eventually.

[@tenaciousb4731]

"y'all never win someone over with hate" Tell that to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Aragon. It actually was extremely effective with their Reconquista and Inquisition on the Iberian peninsula.

[@SuperSaiyanScandinavian]

@@tenaciousb4731 i never said "y'all". Also, what do they have anything remotely to do with two people sitting down to have a debate? Literally nothing. I'm talking about having a respectful debate with no name calling, and you're bringing up forced conversion through torture?

[@lulabella9249]

I will keep you in my daily rosary, Sunday obligation and adoration intentions that you come home.

[@SuperSaiyanScandinavian]

@@lulabella9249 are you talking to me?

[@gtaylor178]

I went to Mass this morning in my small country parish, the priest had exposed Our Lord in the Monstrance on the altar - as I arrived in the small vestibule (maybe 10' by 8') three "ministers" two of handing out the newsletter and one of reader" were having a loud conversation ( the door into the church was wide open) - maybe 10 people inside, I went in and closed the door behind me. Within a few minutes two people starting talking in their pew and a lady crossed over the aisle to stand with her back to Our Lord hands leaning on the pew in front of her and starting chatting to another two ladies in their pew. I am convinced that each parish is in dire need of basic Catholic teaching on the Eucharist. Reverence and awe are just not present.

[@catfood1161]

A lot of people go into the house of the lord to feel a sense of community. I used to turn and walk to the back of the church at the Eucharist of all moments because I was trying to not get in the way of other parishioners … one Sunday I got up to do this and He just simply and gently told me to keep facing forward. I think someone in my church prayed for me. For a bit of context I belong to an Anglo Catholic Church (St Bartholomew’s in Brighton UK) and we have a wonderful liturgy using the Roman missal (translated of course) every mass is a blessing (of course)… we even have people from local RC churches attend our services during Holy Week because they are so much more reverent than their own… I had no idea that not every catholic believes in transubstantiation- that’s kind of a key feature of Christianity… I’ve been to some RC masses (I don’t take communion) and they’re nice but they’re not particularly reverent, in my experience anyway.

[@carolnearson7932]

Those things are painful to read. These folks should gather together to do community together after Mass! Have donuts and coffee in the hall, go out for breakfast together…but to do that inside church during a holy time is not the place to do community with each other, but to worship the Lord together!!

[@directinprint]

Ok that’s pretty sad

[@jayneteske1963]

Argh! Too true!

[@eugenec2851]

Having never attended a Latin Mass I have noticed pre service socialization is on par with the Protestants.

[@antaine1916]

Those little kids knew more about the Latin Mass to start with than the vast majority of Novus Ordo adults do (even those who are old enough to remember Vatican II.

[@tenaciousb4731]

A child's wisdom never ceases to amaze

[@seamusomurchadha2620]

You would hope so if they have experience of it. I wouldn't expect people to know Latin Mass if it is not something their parish or diocese does.

[@kingofthorns203]

Truly wonderful the mind of a child is. -Yoda

[@MsDormy]

Yep - speaking for myself, cradle Catholic, Catholic school, lovely, Catholic parents….. my understanding of the mass has only really just begun! God bless you ❤️🙏

[@hongtamnguyen7294]

As a young Vietnamese man of twenty, having been raised and educated within the theological framework established by the Second Vatican Council, I have subsequently cultivated a profound reverence for the Tridentine Mass. Remember, the Holy Spirit often guides us in subtle ways.

[@rosemaryfernandez3197]

This actually goes to show that the children can have a better understanding of things than learned people. It doesn’t have to be super complicated, people. It’s often extremely simple.

[@thedroidish]

However, we're all still cowards, cause we don't act on it.

[@darthjerh12]

😂 what? No. They are just regurgitating what was taught to them. We're seeing this exact same thing on the left with all that gender crap. Children are just little mimics around that age.

[@jothePianoMaster13]

So naive. No. Clearly, this just shows they are just repeating what they heard from their parents. It's called brainwashing

[@ScriptedLinks]

@@thedroidish Being one of the main reasons behind Jordan Peterson saying he doesn't like the question of "Do you believe in God?".

[@kevinphillips150]

Answering a question can be completely different than understanding what the answer means.

[@hismajesty6272]

As a Protestant, I love Michael Knowles, and deeply enjoyed experiencing the Latin Mass (I didn’t take the Eucharist for obvious reasons). Most of my friends are Catholic, so I’m trying to do my due diligence and immerse myself in Catholic theology. God bless you all.

[@uganda_mn397]

don't be lead astray by the traditions of men

[@hees0009]

​@@uganda_mn397because Luther and Calvin and Knox weren't men too. Lol😂

[@uganda_mn397]

@@hees0009 i don't like a big part of luther's work i do like his principle tho. Sola Scriptura as the Scripture is infallible 2.Timothy 3:16

[@TheBigWatermelon]

⁠​⁠@@uganda_mn397no where in scripture supports sola Scriptura

[@uganda_mn397]

@@TheBigWatermelon acts 17 beroa shows that you don't need to trust men but God's revelation.

[@awokencatholic]

now explain it to the pope

[@mement0mori]

Incredibly well done by Mr. Knowles. What intelligent, articulate, and powerful conversations these were.

[@BelaMadeira]

@@RussellSilver-tl6tdI’m sure they’ll grow up to be well rounded individuals…

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

@@BelaMadeira Yup ~ 30 yrs or so, they might be in the Oval Office….

[@junjujinz]

It's unbelievable how well-spoken all the kids are! Hat's off to the parents, such a wonderful thing to see!

[@Devoted_Catholic777]

YES I love Michael and Alex o Connor together we need a full discussion between them

[@mutuati7103]

I love the little kids, thanks to the parents for teaching the faith as small as they are, his is awesome may God bless you all.

[@MassoftheAges]

They were great!

[@kingofthorns203]

I pray they stay innocent and protected by our Lord.

[@mutuati7103]

Amen@@kingofthorns203

[@mutuati7103]

I was really blessed to watch that video am so inspired.@@MassoftheAges

[@carolnearson7932]

Their parents have done a great job catechizing them.

[@codynunez5246]

Praying for Alex O’Connor’s reversion!!!

[@ce1834]

Think he's smart enough not to tbh

[@mariemiller8740]

I love the Latin mass found this treasure 14 years ago when I was 50 God bless everyone

[@MaggiePies]

This was Awsome. I love how welcoming and enthusiastic Michael is regardless of your level and understanding. You can tell he genuinely loves God and being Catholic.

[@kingofthorns203]

I’ve never really enjoyed his podcast on politics, but his love of the faith and being Catholic is top tier for sure.

[@mc1114miller]

I believe desacralization diminishes an inclination toward holiness. Sacredness inspires holiness. Also, true Catholic music is Sacred. It is set aside. Excellent conversation! But please, let's restore the sacred.

[@tenaciousb4731]

In another comment, I had just mentioned that my neighborhood parish just recently brought in a guitar and drum set for mass. "The 1970s and 80s just called. And they want their terrible post-vatican II ideas back"

[@rmp7400]

I still do not understand why Protestant theologians were given such power at a Pastoral Council that was, essentially, supposed to enhance the relationship between Pastors and their Parishes!!! How did Protestantism ever become the official determinant of that? Like a troubled couple seeking marriage counseling from an atheist: not a wise plan.

[@carolnearson7932]

@@tenaciousb4731Oh my, that’s horrible. Is that for every mass, or can you avoid it?

[@tenaciousb4731]

@@carolnearson7932 unfortunately, due to some family logistical complications, we are not able to see if their Sunday morning masses are the same at that parish. I know what you mean though. The last parish from our old town, had a much much different liturgy, depending on which priest was celebrating it, at which time The only other option, is the student parish in my Town's University. Their 'charismatic' Catholics. They literally seeing every single prayer. Everyone. Confiror. The Creed (Nicean and Apostle). Kirie eleison. Even the Our Father. However, they are pretty passionate, and boy do they put their heart out when they 'sing prayer'. And they do use a normal piano at least Still not the organ and Gregorian choir that my old Latin Mass used to do But it's better than the rock and roll parish

[@GregariousCatholic]

Michael Knowles is awesome! Great content.

[@MassoftheAges]

Couldn't agree more!

[@kingofthorns203]

He’s my least favorite DW personality, but he did great here.

[@BrianJones-cu2sx]

@@kingofthorns203 Knowles is the best!

[@kevinphillips150]

The last three speakers could have been avoided since their perspective was from the importance of the Second Vatican Council.

[@petersclafani4370]

I began o learn Latin when I was in roman catholic school. I continued to learn it on my own when in college majoring in ancient histories.

[@Ai-kh9vm]

Fr Brian was amazing! I’m glad he was open and in agreement with the idea that the TLM should be celebrated.

[@bengoolie5197]

The priest seemed rather dismissive of the TLM.

[@tomdahl8841]

Fr. Brian Park is my Pastor, and he and his Associate Priests are fantastic, and all exhibit beautiful respect for the Eucharist. I love our parish in St. Michael Minnesota. We need to look at this as a "Both And"! Both are beautiful ways of honoring our Lord Jesus Christ, "Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity". Great discussion. God bless, Tom 🙏

[@kingofthorns203]

You have some amazing priests in your state. I’ve been listening to Father Mike Schmitz’s podcasts on the Bible and the Catechism and it’s been wonderful.

[@carlac33]

We go to Epiphany in Coon Rapids, but St. Michael's is lovely too. Our middle was baptized there. It seems like Fr. Brian is more traditional than the previous pastors?

[@cbentler4528]

My parish has been so blessed to have priests that have brought back more and more reverence to our parish Mass. We use altar rails, aim to sing reverent music, and often the mass is celebrated Ad Orientum. Still “Novus Ordo”, but with much more devotion and reverence. It is possible

[@carolnearson7932]

Wow, that sounds wonderful!

[@QuentinNeill]

And proper

[@lizhalpin8610]

The children are the saviors of the TLM!

[@marilynBgood]

I cannot EXPRESS how much I appreciate your doing this episode! Thank you, Mr Knowles!

[@MassoftheAges]

You are very welcome

[@Holymotherchruch]

Excellent! Thanks again “Mass of the Ages “for bringing an understanding to the timeless and most valuable gift of the Latin Mass! Mr. Knowles you knocked it out the park! You were “Top Notch “ as usual!

[@MassoftheAges]

Our pleasure!

[@borichamo]

It was an honor to help film this video!

[@ashleysbored6710]

I am a Protestant who loves Catholic mass (even the Novus Ordo) because of the reverence. I have so much respect for the Church and that it still has such a strong idea of worship, because that's been lost in so many evangelical churches.

[@JohnAlbertRigali]

Please consider converting. Our Lord wants you in the church that He founded. ✝️

[@DivineKnight_115]

They way Michael handles the little kids of varying education levels was nice to see. The kids were paying attention and he was explaining it reasonably well so they could understand it. Maybe he should be a teacher.

[@johnperic6860]

First off, I appreciate that Micheal doesn't dumb his language down too much, its really good to use bigger words with kids, in the right context. Second off, my goodness, these kids have a good vocabulary. Never seen a five-year-old who would think of the word "adoration". They've got good parents.

[@anthonyjones866]

That was incredible. Thank you for making this!

[@MassoftheAges]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM]

This is brilliant (just seen the first 5 mins so far). God bless all who took part.

[@Salve_Regina8]

My wife an I had a Traditional Solemn High Nuptial Mass in the Præmonstratensian Rite on the feast of Our Lady of the Rosary. We are on our honeymoon watching this!!!

[@fundamentalreviews]

Congratulations, what an awesome feast day for your marriage

[@Salve_Regina8]

@@fundamentalreviews Deo Gratias! Thank you!! Indeed it is.

[@wiederganger1959]

I have been following Michael's, and Alex O'Connor's content off and on for years, but never would I have ever expected to see them sitting across from each other, having a friendly conversation about the Latin Mass. What a time to be alive

[@CapitolPilot]

Dr. Mike Foley was absolutely brilliant. He brought so much insight and ideas I have never thought about. That conversation actually made me realize how little I know about my own faith. Thank you for the video!

[@kingofthorns203]

I loved how intelligent he was. It radiates.

[@robp1000]

Yes, Mike Foley is the real deal. I know him personally from my time as a student at Baylor. He introduced me to the TLM, and I've been grateful to him ever since!

[@audoremus]

Fr. Brian Park! I remember when you were called “BP” from my NET year in 2004/2005. Wow. I’m so happy you’ve a love for the TLM. I’m praying for your priesthood. Audrey

[@alethein359]

I don't identify with any particular religion, but this video made me really want to go to a Traditional Latin Mass, especially since I value tradition extremely highly. Unfortunately, there is not a single Traditional Latin Mass in my city. I'm actually a bit pissed off to be honest. I should be able to take part in the same mass as did my ancestors. But apparently I can't. I won't be attending the new mass, nor any other church denomination (although I may look into Eastern Orthodoxy) until I have attended a Traditional Latin Mass. I do plan to move to a different city or perhaps country in a few years, so that may be my chance. I certainly hope so.

[@rachelmow00]

Divine liturgy is beautiful. The TLM is wonderful as well. I've personally found my home in Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Good luck to you.

[@nathanvangoor4979]

You should keep it in mind when you travel!

[@sdeawsa]

You could look up pious the tenth masses too, while the priests are in skism the mass itself is not and it's a TLM.

[@battyz1]

They are not in schism, you just need to look into that a bit further.

[@jodymccall4412]

"Seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened." "All things work for the good for those who love God." I am 63. I just found the Truth about a year ago and a true Catholic Parish The Faith, the Church was driven into the catacombs once more in 1968 with the enforcement of an illicit meal "liturgy" as opposed to the true Holy Sacrifice codified by Pope St Pius V EO is not a substitute kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoOYm2mlhddsrM0si=16DLiGY1HNNaAOSX God bless, I am praying for you. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️

[@TheKyPerson]

I went to a TLM from birth to about the 9th grade. I'm 72 now and I am still amazed at the number of Latin words I picked up along the way. It did wonders for my vocabulary. My diocese does not have a Latin Mass but I do go to a Mass said ad orientem (to the east). See what I mean about Latin and vocabulary? I still love the TLM and hope one day I will get to go to another one.

[@allyboballymomally7440]

I hope you get to go to a TLM again! I’ve attended a TLM for the past 20 years now, it has changed my life.

[@capybarapullup1233]

Check out the SSPX

[@lucabrazzi45]

There are Latin masses all over America SSPX churches in every part of America Everyone dresses up Women wear veils I left Novus Orda a few years ago Dominus Vobiscum

[@carolynbrightfield8911]

Ditto. Age 71. Ironically, coming from poverty, when studied biology / science, my knowledge of Latin gave me a Head start.

[@Nikalette100]

WhenI moved to a new town and was looking for a new parish as a relatively new Catholic, I signed up for a class being taught by lay people. During the first day I heard some heresies. I asked the leader about the real resurrection, and she said to me that no one believed in that anymore. I met with the pastor and left that parish.

[@rondanakamura2655]

Would that lifelong Catholics who don't give our faith as much thought as we should might embrace your zeal for the TRUE teachings of faith!

[@carolnearson7932]

Whoa! That is scary!

[@lucabrazzi45]

Novus Orda is gone

[@illas14]

I come from a very catholic family. Went to catholic school all my life. Withdrew myself during my teens and early adulthood and identified as agnostic. Reconciled with God recently through Protestantism. This video popped up and I’m bawling my eyes out. I have a three year old and just realized I don’t know how to pray in the Protestant style… The prayers from the Catholic Church just rolled out my mouth to my daughter! Beautiful video Michael!❤ Maria Reina de la Paz ruega por nosotros. Sagrado Corazón de Jesús en voz confio ✝️✝️✝️

[@jymsyi]

Urgently, i ask you to find a near latin mass… RAISE YOUR KIDS THERE!! Again, there is no disproving this statement; tradition is one of the objectives for living live. You see, norvos ordo, it is more like a protestant worship time…. TLM IS THE WAY!

[@ohmightywez]

I think Ireland and Latin America both got hit super hard by a movement to separate the most devout Catholic populations in the world from the true Church. Lovely people like you who are truly seeking Christ in order to live as you are meant to. Especially with your mother's love for your children, you want to give them the armor and weapons to be followers of Christ. People will tell you what to do. We get VERY excited about people coming back to the family with a real understanding of the gifts and grace and strength that are given to us in the sacraments. I hope you do find your way back to the Church. I know you must have felt a lack of connection with Christ in the Mass as you were growing up. It's our fault. We don't teach people anything about what is happening. It's a real attraction to the connection and enthusiasm you can find in many protestant congregations. I understand how that would draw you in, and God bless you for seeking a relationship with Him. I would say you cannot have a closer relationship with Him than to be in His presence literally at the Mass.Bring your enthusiasm for the Gospel and for a joyful prayer life and infuse it with the truth of the Sacraments. Benediciones a tu familia. Nuestra Senora os ama como una Madre ama a su hija.

[@lucidlocomotive2014]

What he said about Tradition vs old is something I’ve been saying for a while. It’s so annoying when people like Michael Lofton say something like “communion in the hand is more traditional” it may be older, but traditional means it’s been done for the longest time

[@_kidtripp7772]

Yes. That is why I unsubscribed from Lofton a while ago. His rhetoric felt too hostile to traditionalists like me.

[@YiriUbic3793]

​@@_kidtripp7772I think you are in your feelings Lofton is anything but hostile to traditions he tries to convey a balanced argument about the subject but some of you act like toddlers when people don't say what you want to hear

[@bumponalog5001]

Lofton is truly one of the most arrogant people I've ever seen. He's got a constant smug attitude that rubs me the wrong way. I've known a few people in my life like that... never nice to be around.

[@_kidtripp7772]

@@YiriUbic3793 I don't hate him entirely. Some of his older videos on Eastern Orthodoxy are quite good, especially when he had his take on Pints with Aquinas about the Orthodox. Pretty good episode. The reason I unsubscribed was because his viewpoint on Pope Francis seems to give him too much of the benefit of the doubt in this time where the Catholic Church is being attacked by modernism from foreign and internal threats. Pope Francis just doesn't go against the modernist like the Church needs. Whereas St. Pius X used his supreme papal authority to actual deal with the modernism in his time. The Roman Pontiff shouldn't have climate change and this Synod at the top of his mind. It should be actually punishing pedos in the Church, which he barely gave a slap on the hand to Fr. Rupnik who molested nuns and Cardinal Fernandez who has mishandled abuse cases, excommunicating politicians who support abortion (which he hasn't with Pres. Biden and others), and being bold with pronouncements against LGBTQ instead of dancing around the issue with same sex couple blessing which is scandalous.

[@_kidtripp7772]

@@bumponalog5001 Exactly. He treats us trads like raving fools who worship TLM and deny papal authority. No, we want a Mass that better glorifies God and have a pope that isn't anti-tradition and modernistic.

[@elainepellas3112]

thank you thank you. We have TLM every Sunday in our parish. It is the MOST attended Mass of the entire weekend. Sadly, the Bishop has restricted TLM for sacraments, HolyDays and even funerals. Only our parish can have weekly TLM, no other Parish in our Diocese so familys drive for up to two hours to come here. I pray the restrictions get removed and then the Churches will grow all over the place. Please Holy Spirit open the eyes of this Pope.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

We just got an extension of our TLM in Savannah. Our Bishop wrote to Rome to request it. I drive 60 miles each way every weekend. Very worth it!

[@carolnearson7932]

And as we know, it is being eliminated according to Rome. ☹️☹️

[@tiffany2130]

Michael talking to the kids is everything!!! And those children are so smart and precious 💕 God bless them 🥰

[@3ggshe11s]

I'm a cradle Catholic, born in the early '70s when the church was still trying to find its footing and often overcorrecting post-V2. Catechesis was terrible; Mary statues were being shoved into closets; rosaries were being discouraged. Catholicism was being aggressively de-Catholicized. I didn't know that at the time. I just thought I was born into a faith tradition with no fundamental difference from liturgical Protestantism. Nobody ever told me why I should be a Catholic as opposed to, say, an Episcopalian or a high-church Lutheran. I never even attended a Latin Mass until I was in my thirties. When I did, I felt like we'd all been robbed of something sacred and beautiful. These days I fall more on Alex O'Connor's side than on Michael Knowles' when it comes to religious belief, but I still find myself drawn to the sacredness, rituals, and tradition of the TLM. It humbles you. It directs you upward and out of yourself. The modern Mass doesn't. It's a banal two-way conversation that leaves you stuck there, in the mundane everyday world, and takes you no further. If Catholicism wants to shake up the world, I think the only way it can do that is through the TLM. Otherwise it's just another indistinguishable product on the shelf.

[@brownmullins]

I'm protestant and have a devotion to TLM. I love the extraordinary form of the holy water and incense as though God totally surrounds us. I'm very thankful for every opportunity to attend.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

I have just begun attending the TLM in Savannah. It is a beautiful and reverent way to adore the Lord. What a great show!

[@impasse0124]

I had heard that the TLM was gone in Savannah so that’s nice to hear!

[@lucabrazzi45]

SSPX?

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

@@lucabrazzi45 No, diocesan. 🙂🙏🙂

[@samuelnicholes]

This is such a fantastic way to approach the TLM and the desire to have it celebrated. God bless Michael Knowles, one of the calmest and thoughtful kind souls to speak about Catholicism.

[@CatholicCat-er9xn]

Amen!!

[@juanchitaro5380]

I really enjoyed Mike Foley's contribution. I wasn't expecting to find so many rich new concepts and distinctions.

[@bellanegrin3915]

Michael, this was so simple, yet so profound! I was impressed with the children's responses. However, like you, I never really contemplated the difference between being holy and that which is sacred. Thank you. I learned something very important here today.

[@Prepping-for-Heaven]

Nicely done, Michael! I especially loved watching and listening to what the kids were saying! They were amazing! Thank you!

[@MassoftheAges]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@pattyoehrlein5077]

Thank You for this clever and insightful look at the TLM. Loved it. Please do more like this. 🙏

[@MassoftheAges]

More to come!

[@billpletikapich5640]

I have attended only a few Latin Masses 50 years ago when I was in grade school. Your sharing great insights that were easy for me to consume and digest. Thank you

[@tracygetty8319]

So cool to see our priest on the Michael Knowles channel! I pray that someday our beautiful parish of St. Michael will celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass.

[@MassoftheAges]

Well said!

[@11antun]

" both forms of the Roman Rite are equally holy!" 👏👏👏👏

[@angelamalek]

Worth watching to hear Dr. Foley’s beautiful explanation of the Mass. Kudos to Knowles for this interesting show!

[@georgedavis2554]

During Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, He made 7 (seven) touching prayers (statements) starting with "Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing", and ending with "Father into Thy hands I commit my spirit". For those who find it difficult to follow the Latin, and want to "participate actually" (participatio actuosa), I would recommend meditating on these 7 statements, after Sanctus onwards when the reverential silence is the deepest.... and by the time you say "Domine non dignus" you will have surrendered to Jesus your soul ready to receive Him - Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity". You will have stood by the cross as Mary did accepting you as her "son' at His command. That is the beauty of theLatin mass. This is both active and actual participation at the Holy Mass. This is possible only during the reverent and dignified silence in the Latin Mass. During the actual crucifixion only His enemies patted each others' back for the black deed they did 1990 years ago.

[@daniellucas2968]

That point Michael made to the skeptic was really good: "If what is going on at the altar is something that I can cognize and comprehend, then it not be what it claims to be." I've never thought about it that way, but I'm coming around to that way of thinking more and more.

[@celestialblissfulness]

This was beautiful, thank you! Much respect to everyone that participated

[@billdestroyerofworlds]

When I heard that four year old say a four syllable word ("adoration"), I knew these kids have good parents who have been teaching them plenty.

[@ProjectMysticApostolate]

We need more episodes like this.

[@AG-kr1my]

I have been heavily contemplating changing parishes to attend Latin mass thr last couple of days. This video helped open my heart and mind so much.

[@lucabrazzi45]

Take the leap I did during Covid Love it

[@marcuswilliams7448]

Dr. Foley's explanation of mystery was superb.

[@zZjak793Zz1]

LOVE this video. More videos like this!

[@MassoftheAges]

You got it!

[@cristinamz2137]

Thank you for doing this, Miachael. I have been a bit confused at times, eventhough I go to the Latin Mass. I understand more, now. Thank you.

[@MassoftheAges]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ahoblit]

The thermostat and thermometer analogy was spot on from Dr. Mike Foley.

[@greatpretender83]

Dr. Foley the most knowledgeable of them all explains exquisitly the Christian Mass. Very easy to digest in a way that doesn't demand a lot of knowledge before hand.

[@Corolla97ww]

Yes. I liked his explanation of the difference between holy and the sacred.

[@robp1000]

I was so privileged to be introduced to the TLM by Dr. Foley himself when I was at Baylor back in 2008. In his winsome manner, he invited students to check out the local TLM, and I happened to be among them. He gave a 30-min explainer beforehand (which he called "Mass class"), which has stuck with me to this day. Absolutely wonderful man. And an Irishman at that!

[@CatholicMailman]

I rediscovered the Traditional Latin Mass early last year after decades of attending the novos ordo mass and have since attended the TLM all the time. Cor IESU Sacratissimum, Miserere nobis. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@donquixote8462]

Did alex o connor just acknowledge that the Christian faith is the only faith that has a historical contingent? Wow. He's absolutely right for once.

[@kingofthorns203]

I feel blessed to have never heard of him before this video. Shows me how far I am from my youthful atheism (thanks be to God)

[@theyellowflashoftheleaf5896]

Nah it isn't

[@maciejpieczula631]

Islam is historically contingent.

[@konyvnyelv.]

​@@kingofthorns203so you grew up and started believing in talking snakes and donkeys

[@mathfrom0to96]

​@@konyvnyelv.dude, 1 what? 2 why are you always against us in Catholic comment sections? Why do you watch sooo many Christian videos? Are you planning on coming around?

[@taxfree4]

Thee was nothing in Article 36 of the Constitution of the Sacred Liturgy that said put a table in front of the altar, turn versus populam, remove altar rails etc. etc, etc. Vatican II was a scourge warned by the Blessed Mother at La Salette and, especially Fatima's Third Secret. Our Lady warned "A great tragedy shall come upon the earth, mankind will not progress as God wants it to in the 2nd half of the 20th Century. Cardinals will fight cardinals and bishops will fight bishops and Rome itself will greatly change. Satan will even succeed in infiltrating into the highest positions in the Church."

[@mc1114miller]

Wow.

[@ejaquilio41]

Just a super presentation, pray many will see this and get the most out of this.🙏🙏🙏

[@sc100ott]

Excellent! My family has been attending the TLM for a couple of years now. While my wife and I might prefer a more reverent Novus Ordo Mass, it is our children, particularly our youngest children, who are drawn to the TLM. I’m unable to explain it, but there it is-more exciting to the youth than folk hymns with guitars and tambourines. I hope this energy for the faith stays strong in them! As an aside, I had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Foley’s wife and daughter at at a Right To Life march a few years back, and that is how I discovered his “cocktail” book!

[@lucabrazzi45]

My kids love Latin Mass My son is 100% all in The young men and women in SSPX are militant and are realizing the modern world provides misery and debt. Love TLM

[@tarajones-legros3661]

One of the most meaningful chats about the TLM I’ve heard. Ever. Learned something important too. Thank you!!

[@geoffmead4581]

Michael Knowles is awesome. He never goes off talking for lengths of time. He says something and asks a question.

[@KenDelloSandro7565]

From the mouths of babes ..... Excellent job and much respect to the parents who raised those children. Watching them really makes me want to thrive in being a better father. Thank you and May God Bless you and Our Lady Keep You.

[@lisamarie2784]

Oh I look forward to watching this, so glad you did this, so necessary.😇

[@willing_spirit6830]

Wow, the last 5 minutes on the nature of the mystery was brilliant.

[@jasmadams]

Holy is a Germanic word, and it comes to us from the same root as healthy and whole. Its Latin equivalent is sanctus. Sacer, on the other hand, meant to the late Romans "devoted to a purpose," or vowed to some end. Similar sounding words, but very different in origin and meaning.

[@VersoLaltoProductions]

Excellent conversations! Knowles is excellent, and I also enjoyed the people who were brought in to talk with him. Well done!

[@VizziMoto]

Amazing video. We need more leading figures bringing the Traditional Mass to the forefront!

[@goskaku7291]

I’m truly impressed with Michael’s ability to lead the conversation at so many levels. All the participants were very impressive as well.

[@battyz1]

I think the fact that the kids were so well catechised is an argument for the TLM. It is a catechism class in itself.

[@MassoftheAges]

💯

[@fundamentalreviews]

You can tell the parents are taking seriously what they promised when the children were baptized

[@philominaeapen9240]

Very well done Michael ⛪️ if only many more people would appreciate and make it practical in their lives 🙏✝️⛪️♥️

[@christinereich6050]

Thanks Michael. I also thought both Masses the same. At first, I found the TLM difficult but then I found myself relaxing. I allowed the beauty and reverence to sink in.

[@MassoftheAges]

Well said!

[@debgab9259]

Music is another issue especially for me. I moved from one state to another and tried to find a church again. After going to several novus ordo masses, with each one several and some over dozen or more times, the music really bothered me at each one. I finally settled on a church that offered the TLM and not too far from me. I find it hard to go back to the others now.

[@lizziepark6743]

This is interesting content! I love the last the most cause, despite him being the expert, he speaks in clear language anyone can understand. This is a true gift if you are focused on complex topics to a diverse audience

[@weemouse1959]

Thank you Michael!!! 💖🕊️😇

[@MassoftheAges]

The Michaels would like you to know that ‘you’re welcome’.

[@alejandrawalker5045]

Archbishop Levferve fought with his life for traditional Latin mass

[@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus]

Without a doubt, the best part of this program was Dr. Mike Foley. Brilliant conversation. More with him, please.

[@keiclynjara]

What incredible conversations these were 🙏🏻

[@EruIluvatar5]

It's cool that you guys got Alex O'Connor for the episode.

[@Thoughtworld1984]

Access to what is sacred does not make one holy. Very true. But, trying achieving holiness without it.

[@teresad7102]

I don’t understand why priests continue NO masses when they are aware of the difference; I assumed they were all ignorant.

[@Nikalette100]

There were barriers placed before them until Pope Benedict.

[@zm7094]

This is great! Thanks for doing this

[@juniormakovsky9206]

Michael is very good with the kids. He would have made a good teacher

[@ChachiTelevision1979]

What I love about the preschooler saying “The Eucharist” is that it’s the most accurate thing you could say when asked what is the Mass. It’s short, but too the point and very much correct.

[@patrycjalubera3342]

This helped with understanding of the TLM, thank you! I have to say that in the Novus Ordo Missae in Poland (in some churches) poeple tend to receive the Eucharist in a traditional way- without touching the Body of Jesus with hands and some older people will kneel. 😊

[@michaelcourville5957]

This was very well done. Thank you!