FRAMEWORK 180 watt USB-C Power Adapter REVIEW AND TEST

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AllThingsOnePlace

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@siberx4
@siberx4 5 ай бұрын
Man, they really knocked this one out of the park. Really cool to have a well-built reasonably-priced option that can do 180W while following the PD standards!
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it's nice to find something this good.
@ciswhitememe
@ciswhitememe 5 ай бұрын
Looking forward for a Framework 240W adapter in the future. A review from you as well.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
ha yeah if they don't make it I don't think anyone else will.
@Kavyatej
@Kavyatej 5 ай бұрын
first 180w singleport output adapter on the channel! oh yeah!
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's nice to do something new.
@maxcohn3228
@maxcohn3228 5 ай бұрын
Framework X AllThingsOnPlace? What more could I ask for?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@GeekyGamer167
@GeekyGamer167 4 ай бұрын
I think part of the reason other companies aren't jumping on the 240W USB PD bandwagon is the fact that there's basically no components yet. None of the known and trusted IC companies have USB PD controllers that support over 28V, so they're holding off on using chips like the Weltrend that framework is using. That chip is, to my knowledge, the only USB PD controller that exists currently with 36V support. Their 48V model has a part number but doesn't exist yet I believe, their information isn't public so I have no idea.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Yep, I mentioned that in one of the other comments. I went through a few parts sites looking for components and came up with very few options, none at 48V. A large company isn't going to pick up the banner either, why change the laptop to match the power supply. I have a board that will negotiate for 48V PD now so that's one step closer.
@GeekyGamer167
@GeekyGamer167 4 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace lucky, I wonder what they did to make that work... Probably used some resistor divider trickery and/or microcontrollers to bit bang the protocol
@ariefhidayat2157
@ariefhidayat2157 Ай бұрын
​@@AllThingsOnePlacethere are usb tester like witrn c4 or c5 pro and power z km003c that can trigger pd 3.1 avs 48v
@parthsethia4223
@parthsethia4223 5 ай бұрын
Framework is doing just some right things
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I like the design philosophy. In time hopefully the laptops and firmware issues will get better. In this case at least they tried where no one else has even bothered.
@Kavyatej
@Kavyatej 5 ай бұрын
Surprised how it's only 99$. expected around the wattage of the chrager
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
yeah, not bad at all.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 ай бұрын
I knew already from another video that it's missing 12V and PPS. That's a bit of a letdown, but still a unique piece.
@AmmarAbotouk
@AmmarAbotouk 5 ай бұрын
PPS is a problem for sure
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
This has AVS, the newer-bigger PPS. It's not a phone charger.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 ай бұрын
​@@AllThingsOnePlace Different voltage range. Different use case. It could however have had both.
@kylereis7854
@kylereis7854 5 ай бұрын
​@@AllThingsOnePlaceAVS only does 0.1v steps and only at or above 15v (9v with the revised AVS in PD 3.2, but this is only PD 3.1). PPS does 0.02v steps and can go as low as 3.3v (and up to 21v). AVS is certainly newer and bigger than PPS, but not necessarily better. More complimentary.
@torymiddlebrooks
@torymiddlebrooks 5 ай бұрын
What would you do with PPS that you can't do with AVS?
@joell1999
@joell1999 5 ай бұрын
The problem with running 48V to the laptop is that the stepndown circutry is inefficient and generates a lot of heat. Arguably, this negates any benefit of reducing power loss through the cable itself. Not to mention, that additional cooling reduced efficency and increases weight. That's likely why most manufacturers are sticking to 20V adapters and proprietary plugs (like Asus' new G14 and G16 laptops with reversible type-c like plugs) that stick to 20V and >5A. Notably, the cables aren't the problem, its the USB-c pins that can't handle more than 5A as they were never designed that way, hence the higher voltages.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, I didn't want to get that detailed in the video, it is amazing that 5 amps makes through those tiny pins, although in general they skimp on wire size too on some cables. In terms of efficiency, yeah, there is a little bit of a hit, it would be interesting to test the trade off of the entire system 40V-5A versus 20V-10A (barrel plug) for example. There are so many power supplies and voltages in a laptop it would take substantial work, and obviously it gets done things work... I think the bigger reason is that there's 1,000,000 pieces of cheap 24v rated buck converter chips from any supplier but if you need a 50v buck rated parts that number shrinks greatly. I just checked mouser, it's not good. So, supplier problems, cost, etc.
@nich-nk2cr
@nich-nk2cr 5 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlaceanother thing to note is that Chinese proprietary chargers going extreme speeds also do the same thing, and they’re creating proprietary usb c cables that support 10 or even 12/13 amps of power now, at 20 volts. Maybe in the future we could see a USB PD 4.0 that has both 48v 5a and 20v 12a support.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 ай бұрын
No the buck converters can be very power efficient. You can make capacitor based switching circuits that have 95+% efficiency. And you need to have buck converters anyway. You will not get more efficiency by using lower voltage. It is not true that this negates any benefit of reducing power loss through the cable itself. It just costs more right now and needs new designs.
@mdr________
@mdr________ 5 ай бұрын
As always, thanks for the nice review! A lot of the newer HP and Dell PCs only have USB C ports for charging. Will this work on their "proprietary" charging standards?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
It will work up to 90-100 watts, PD standard 5 amps and 20 volts. For the higher wattages, it will not work.
@ZeroPageX
@ZeroPageX 5 ай бұрын
Glad I watched this. I figured it'd be fine to power anything up to 180W. I love the idea of having a USB-C cable around I can connect to whatever needs to be charged or powered at the time. I didn't realize it wouldn't be recommended for lower power stuff. I know you said don't use it for 30W, but what is the lowest you would recommend?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
It performs great above 45 watts.
@nich-nk2cr
@nich-nk2cr 5 ай бұрын
Maybe the 240w, 48v 5a power supply was supposed to be also out at the same time, but there are some issues with that adaptor’s certifications that mean that charger is being delayed until further notice.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
I don't know, they only announced this one and that the laptop can support the 240W mode but it is possible.
@randxalthor
@randxalthor 3 ай бұрын
Looks great! thanks for reviewing this! Looked at the "USB-C" charger that just came with my new Dell laptop and it's rated for 165W, but at 28V and nearly 6 amps. Gotta love violating the USB spec. Looks like Framework is far out ahead of everybody else. Looking forward to a future with 240W USB-C adapters, though.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are, but also substantially lower volume. The chips to go up to 36V are made at orders of magnitude less volume than the ones that go to 30V so, until that volume is up Dell, et all, will keep doing what they're doing.
@eugene4350
@eugene4350 2 ай бұрын
Haven’t stopped by in a long while. How ya doin? Interesting to see 36V adapters on the market. Surprised that the Framework is still the only 36V adapter seeing as it came out at some point last year.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 2 ай бұрын
Not bad, just been busy with work, August plan is to get back on a more normal schedule here. Yeah, this is a first and it may be the only one for a very long time.
@eugene4350
@eugene4350 2 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace Oh boy I feel ya. Work has ramped up significantly in the summer as usual for me. I think it’ll be interesting seeing who releases the first 48V PD charger. PD controllers already have implemented 48V charging in multiple devices so hopefully it’ll just be a matter of time from here. Maybe one of the chinese phone brands
@findleydunn4301
@findleydunn4301 5 ай бұрын
You should definitely look at some of Alogic's line specifically the Alogic Matrix 3 in 1 and the Alogic matrix ultimate seems like a brilliant product intresting to see if there is a catch.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, yeah, the power adapters themselves look like clones of things I've already tested. I haven't done any of the wireless charging things yet but I added them to the list.
@waleedmughal1375
@waleedmughal1375 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your detailed reviews and efforts. I'm really confused about buying an adapter for my MacBook Pro 2019 and iPhone 14 Plus. I had finalized the Baseus 100W adapter after watching one of your videos, but it had reviews about very low longevity. Can you please help me buy an adapter that excels in all aspects, especially longevity?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Longevity is tough. It really comes down to use, and also quality. Some of the lesser known brands tend to be bad in that way. If you want longevity over all else for the adapter, use the Apple adapters.
@Jahang89
@Jahang89 9 күн бұрын
Could this be used to charge the new Anker Solix 300 DC which is supposed to be able to charge via 140W two way USB C fast charging?
@Sanaduzzabaniah
@Sanaduzzabaniah 5 ай бұрын
sir . does it support pd charging , like on most mobile devices nowadays?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
It only uses PD charging.
@pabloagogo1
@pabloagogo1 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I saw your review of the SlimQ 240 watt. Based on what I see here with the Framework 180 watt, it seems to be better, for one thing, for having all the safety certifications, I am guessing. I actually bought the SlimQ-240, and it has not given me any problems for like 2 years or more. My laptop have these specifications of 19.5 volts and 9.23 Amps, which is basically 180 watts. But one odd thing with the SlimQ-240 when I first tried to power my laptop was that it did get hot. That maybe happened 2 to 3 times right at the beginning. BUT from then on, it has remained very stable, temperature wise. I got the SlimQ right when it got released, I believe. BUT what I like about the Framework 180 watt, is that dimension wise, it is a bit smaller than the SlimQ-240, also weighs a bit less.The only thing lacking for this Framework 180 watts is a DC barrel. BUT I found online that there is a Type-C to DC barrel adapter. SO, I am planning on getting this Framework 180, because it has more safety certifications and is a bit smaller in size and weight as the SlimQ-240.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 2 ай бұрын
It most likely won't work. This framework adapter is a high voltage, lower current output adapter, so a cable adapter will not work.
@pabloagogo1
@pabloagogo1 2 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hi thanks for your reply. On the Framework website, I don't see the detailed specifications in terms of voltage and current. So are you trying to say that the specs may be like 20 Volts and 9 Amps, or like 24 volts and 7.5 Amps, on this Framework 180 watt charger?
@zeshwonsos
@zeshwonsos 5 ай бұрын
Your videos are excellent! What's the current state for 240w usb c adapters? I've got a laptop that will support 200w, a couple 100w adapters/banks and a bunch of 240w cables...not good for my ocd
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
They're aren't any 240W single port adapters.
@kaysond
@kaysond 5 ай бұрын
Even though the Framework blog post discusses the topology, it would be nice to see a tear down anyways! I want to know what their PCB layout looks like, heat management, etc
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
I was going to use this one that's why I don't want to break it. The heat management is interesting you can see in the thermal image there is a cold spot in the middle. Is that an area where there's less thermal compound or maybe that's where all the capacitors are? I wish I could get this stuff for free, haha. This video made about $15 so far. If it makes $100 I'll tear it down since it essentially paid for itself and I can buy another one. or Framework just got a bunch of money they can sponsor a teardown of their adapter?
@kaysond
@kaysond 5 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace I bet if you reached out to them, they might send you another one. The CEO is pretty active on social media too, if you can't get ahold of anyone (I see him comment on Hacker News posts every now and then)
@alx9r
@alx9r 5 ай бұрын
Yay! They even chose the right mains power connector.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Powercon? haha
@alx9r
@alx9r 4 ай бұрын
If a USB power adapter doesn’t use C5 or C7 for mains power something has gone terribly sideways during design.
@00SNIVY00
@00SNIVY00 4 ай бұрын
I didn't really acknowledge how awesome it is. My Framework 180W charger is barely a centimeter longer than the 100W charger that came with my Yoga 7i. Nearly twice the power in basically the same volume!
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it genuinely is impressive.
@brandonbonewell9972
@brandonbonewell9972 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for another good one. I am in need of another youtube first. Power banks for reclining chairs seem to be way overpriced. I tried and failed to use a normal powerbank w/USB C to 2pin homemade adapter. The chair didn't move. Please consider showing how this can be done and what specs have to meet for the adapter. Also, lazy boy has a different plug than the standard. My chair is not lazy boy, but it may be something for the video. Thanks for your time.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
mmm, yeah, it's about figuring out what protocol they are using if it has a USB port. It could be quick charge or QC, or if PD would need an appropriate PD trigger board. One of the USB monitor things in line would tell you the voltage maybe even the mode depending on what you get. The data lines or cc lines for QC or PD respectively need to be connected as well. If it's just straight voltage, they shouldn't be using a USB port.
@Greg-bu6ns
@Greg-bu6ns 5 ай бұрын
I like seeing the progress. My wish list includes a compact PD PPS charger that will also support 54.6V CV CC charging for my ebike at 240W.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
haha, yeah, they seriously need to standardize that but I think volume is too low for anyone to do that. USB C at 48V and 5A though will get the 240W across, and there's a converter to the battery anyway... So, that higher power USB may be the bicycle battery charger future.
@madhavmarri
@madhavmarri 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Really appreciate if you can do a video(s) on Lenovo Legion GAN series chargers ( C135, C140 & C170). These chargers are widely used, however there is not much in detailed testeng done on these chargers. It will be helpfull if you can do it.Thanks in Advance
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, they've been on the list and I tried to get some of them a couple times and couldn't get them delivered, orders cancelled for some reason.
@Eb-rh4ki
@Eb-rh4ki 5 ай бұрын
What board do you use for your EPR sink? Are you able to test AVS? Thanks for the great video.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
The sink is the Siglent load tester with 4 wire mode enabled. The negotiation board is an eBay special, I'm going to do a writeup on Patreon for that. This one does not support AVS.
@nich-nk2cr
@nich-nk2cr 5 ай бұрын
The thing is that existing 240w USB C cables can already use these, so there is no need for a proprietary cable.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yep.
@KababalaghanYouTubeChannel
@KababalaghanYouTubeChannel Ай бұрын
Would this be enough to power gaming laptops to performance level? Let's say Zephyrus G16 for example. Sorry noob question
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace Ай бұрын
It would be, but the issue is the compatibility of the power supply. This doesn't have the lower voltage most laptops run on so power wise it would be fine, but practically, it won't go over 100W with most laptops, 140W with a MacBook Pro 16" and 180W with the Framework.
@mrbigberd
@mrbigberd 5 ай бұрын
Can we get a review of the pinepower station? It seems like a great device for the cost.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll get it going here. Probably June timeframe.
@drunkenmaster9005
@drunkenmaster9005 5 ай бұрын
Make a video or playlist of the best products you’ve reviewed so far
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
I do periodically do a video on 'best of'. I want to get it on the allthings webpage also. This is a one person operation, barely get the videos out. But yeah, making a playlist would be pretty low effort and that's a good idea!
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 4 ай бұрын
will this work with a MBP?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
It supports the modes required by the MBP, of course you need the MBP cable to get 140W still. But at 140W the apple adapter is just as good as this one. So, not really much of a need.
@alystair
@alystair 3 ай бұрын
Does can charge phones at their maximum allowed charge rate?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 3 ай бұрын
Some of them... It lacks the PPS mode for Samsung devices or others that rely on that.
@HatefulEntertainment
@HatefulEntertainment 5 ай бұрын
Would something like this be enough power to put in my Jsaux RGB docking station to power my monitor wireless mouse and keyboard and headset? The charger I have now at 65W just bottles out 😢. Thank you for your help. Keep up the sick and informative work I really appreciate it.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
This is probably a bit overkill for that. The docking station probably has a maximum supported input power, most likely 100 watts, so something in that range should work.
@godtonnam9813
@godtonnam9813 5 ай бұрын
Can you review Cuktech products please ❤️
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
I have some here.
@ZelenoJabko
@ZelenoJabko 3 ай бұрын
Can you compare it against Zeus charger 280W?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 3 ай бұрын
mmmm crowdfunded, probably will not.
@ZelenoJabko
@ZelenoJabko 3 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace no, not the 280w one. The previous 270w version was. It can be simply ordered online.
@Tummymunster
@Tummymunster 5 ай бұрын
Can you review the newly released Belkin BoostCharge Pro 200W 4-Port USB-C GaN Charger? It was announced at CES 2024 and just released.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, yeah, that's a good one. I think that'll be it's own video. I have the lower wattage newer Belkin offerings coming soon.
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 ай бұрын
I want laptops to bring ethernet ports back with POE power input as an alternative to the USB-C and while we're at it we might as well make USB-C go all the way up to 48V aslo.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, PoE is probably the thing driving the power supply market, there's a drive for converters that can do the 48V to 1V in one step to make these more efficient and usable across that wide voltage range.
@BDJQP36
@BDJQP36 4 ай бұрын
there's a difference between thermal equilibrium and a steady state
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Sorry for not being clear.
@jammies701
@jammies701 5 ай бұрын
Nice vid mate
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Missinde01
@Missinde01 5 ай бұрын
Hello, I have been trying to find info on how to supply power to various USB ights etc here in my studio. I have all these little USB adapters plugged in here and there including plugged into my PC. I would like to buy "one" device like a USB hub to plug them all into. I do not need anything for charging,, just supplying power to my various lights. My goal is to not use my PCs to supply power to lighting. It's been a confusing journey trying to find what I need, everything talks about "charging" which is not what I'm interested in. If you could point me to a product that can handle between 10-20 lights, I would greatly appreciate it. thank you so much!
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter 5 ай бұрын
If it's power delivery only why not use bare cables.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
The thing I focused on is the number of lights. 10-20, if they need lots of power you'll end up with multiple adapters anyway. I have a video using a power adapter with LED light panels. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5q4f3eYpJqtp5I
@polosandoval
@polosandoval 5 ай бұрын
I gave up on power adapters. I use my Sigilent bench power supply lol.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Haha. I haven’t tried to measure that for efficiency.
@stonyman694
@stonyman694 5 ай бұрын
Wonderful video quality. 6K ?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
I hope that is sarcasm? It's 1080p.
@LGNilsson
@LGNilsson 5 ай бұрын
1080p60 according to youtube...
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter 5 ай бұрын
It's Bit-Rate and CPU codec remdering. This resolution thing is just dumb and a complete waste, what matters is bit-rate and bit-depth. Higher resolutions are dumb and a waste.
@LGNilsson
@LGNilsson 5 ай бұрын
@@Splarkszter say that you don't own a 4K display without saying you don't own a 4K display...
@stonyman694
@stonyman694 5 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace I refreshed the stream several times but only got a black screen with a slightly lighter overlay on it. I assumed it was an audio presentation. Sorry.
@nikoladd
@nikoladd 2 ай бұрын
Still one port. You'd expect after usb-c bacame mainstream PC manufacturers would evolve to the logical next step of having maybe one or two more ports, which they don't have many spares of on the laptops anymore... At least it has a detachable usb-c cable, unlike my more expensive Lenovo's adapter.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm surprised they haven't opened up a bit more on some of these chargers. I understand with this framework as it is the conventional laptop brick, just with more power, but yeah an extra port would be nice, even if it was much lower power capability.
@walidoutaleb7121
@walidoutaleb7121 5 ай бұрын
can you test the pinePower
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, finally gonna get some of that stuff on here.
@walidoutaleb7121
@walidoutaleb7121 5 ай бұрын
@@AllThingsOnePlace nice waiting patiently then
@Carrot-is-a-fruit
@Carrot-is-a-fruit 5 ай бұрын
Could you maybe look into the anker 315 67w? I see little to no things about it online.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, I may even have it here. I need to look around, there are a lot of Anker chargers I skipped, they make too many.
@Kavyatej
@Kavyatej 5 ай бұрын
is 94% efficiency highest seen on this channel?
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
The Satechi 165W beat it by a little.
@AG8000
@AG8000 4 ай бұрын
Powerbank 20.000 mAh EB-P4520 Samsung, please test.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know, I have it here too.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 5 ай бұрын
Omg, I was waiting for this video!
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tutacat
@tutacat 5 ай бұрын
Oh! It's called leakage current.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Mmmhmm. Zap.
@alx9r
@alx9r 5 ай бұрын
Does it not die? Because so far only the Apple adapter is able to not die.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Apple adapters have a good reputation, I haven't really used any of the newer ones though. Today these are all essentially the same as anyone else making these high density supplies that tries. They all get hot, my expectation is their not going to last long under any major use, test of time will prove it out I guess.
@alx9r
@alx9r 5 ай бұрын
As of about August 2023 when I last searched the Amazon reviews, the Apple 140W adapter was conclusively the only reliable 140W adapter. I tested a handful of other from Anker and some others and they have all died, same as was reported by the Amazon reviewers. Dell was the only other source of reliable adapter, but their output is the non-standard 20V, >5A. Unless something has dramatically changed in the past year, the dominant story for these adapters is whether they die prematurely. If that has changed, it would be interesting to understand how to tell a failure-prone adapter from others. I get that durability isn’t easy to measure, but that doesn’t make it matter any less.
@adalbert93_75
@adalbert93_75 5 ай бұрын
@@alx9r Please share what chargers let you down?
@alx9r
@alx9r 4 ай бұрын
@adalbert93_75 On each amazon product page there is a box that allows you to search reviews on that product. I recommend searching “died”, “dead”, and “fail” on each of the products you are considering. I did so on each of the products reviewed by this channel in the 140W class as well as some others. That confirmed to me that the failures I saw weren’t anomalous. This Framework power supply is obviously too new to have much of a review history so it might be better to stick with those with a longer track record. I just did that search on a few of the most recent vintage of ~140W adapters. The recent negative reviews suggest that problem remains.
@alx9r
@alx9r 4 ай бұрын
@adalbert93_75 On each amazon product page there is a box that allows you to search reviews on that product. I recommend searching “died”, “dead”, and “fail” on each of the products you are considering. I did so on each of the products reviewed by this channel in the 140W class as well as some others. That confirmed to me that the failures I saw weren’t anomalous. This Framework power supply is obviously too new to have much of a review history so it might be better to stick with those with a longer track record. I just did that search on a few of the most recent vintage of ~140W adapters. The recent negative reviews suggest that problem remains.
@jannikramsen8504
@jannikramsen8504 5 ай бұрын
We newer get to old for Star Wars :D (I dont mean the new woke sh..)
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 4 ай бұрын
haha
@tutacat
@tutacat 5 ай бұрын
*OEM Power supply with USB C functionality
@oznerol256
@oznerol256 5 ай бұрын
This doesn't to it justice. The description would also apply to 140W Dell chargers, which only give 60W to non-Dell laptops. The Framework one follows the PD standard even at 180W (using EPR), which means it will charge non-Framework devices at full power.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am impressed with the capabilities of this power supply.
@aliensstolemybeer5362
@aliensstolemybeer5362 5 ай бұрын
How much is this unit, considering it only has one port? Who is it particularly aimed at for having one port?
@ganlet20
@ganlet20 5 ай бұрын
It’s designed for their 16 inch laptop.
@AllThingsOnePlace
@AllThingsOnePlace 5 ай бұрын
It's $99.
@aliensstolemybeer5362
@aliensstolemybeer5362 5 ай бұрын
That's £80 uk price, bit cheap so not something I'd buy or relie upon at that price. ​@@AllThingsOnePlace
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter 5 ай бұрын
Framework 16 That's what it is designed for, the BEST and the LAST laptop you will EVER buy. 100% Repairable. 100% Upgradable. You can change the GPU without changing the motherboard(you can upgrade the mobo too). Just the best in the world.
@Kavyatej
@Kavyatej 5 ай бұрын
@@Splarkszter it's great! but a bit too expensive still
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