France Is Not Trying to Win Eurovision This Year

[@line_vondensternen337]

Omg the opener had me totally worried

[@Wriwnas1]

ikr? :D

[@aekelly]

I know, me too! I worry every year whether they'll be back....I missed them so much when they took a break!

[@overthinkingit]

I had to do the Space Jam / WAP mashup for nine months straight and I regret nothing. -MB

[@timschnitzel]

My heart dropped when you said "the final season". You can't do this to a German, we famously don't do jokes! ;)

[@line_vondensternen337]

Ich dachte schon ich bin die Einzige 😅

[@trildi]

Mine did too!!

[@DrHarlequinn]

The noise I made in response to those words scared my dog. You're a monster, Matt Wrather's telepromper writer.

[@johanneskarlsson3859]

Or a Swed, I got scared!

[@Soundbrigade]

Yeah, you run the department of humor in EU …. 😬

[@ashleyleckwold5091]

My hot take is that Fulenn is a banger 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@GossipGirl770]

Yes! Especially in the snooze year of 2022 when there were so many balads..i dont understand why it got such a low score

[@jbdloucks]

@@GossipGirl770You must not have eyes. That live performance was visually messy and turned people off from voting for them. Also, they were too early in the running order.

[@marsukarhu9477]

Exactly! It was in my top 5. Still love it!

[@lilsaam]

​@@marsukarhu9477 Same! Fulenn was great

[@Korilian13]

I really loved Fulenn, but when I saw them live in Amsterdam I knew they were out. They were too sloppy live.

[@madbot32]

Regarding La Zarra- the gesture is not different in Canada, no. But it is in Morocco. She is Canadian-Moroccan.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

Personally I think the La Zarra bit is overly critical. A lot of her humor goes over people's heads and the French media was basically attacking her the whole time leading up to rhe competition. She definitely still has some diva attitude but things have been overblown. Anyways I can understand the french delegations thinking processes regardless.

[@berniedu7185]

Humour when she shit on everyone ??? She’s a terrible woman. Living Amsterdam without any excuses but a million…. Etc … til the D-day with her disgrace finger. I loved the song and I loved the artist, till she start her disgusting comedy.

[@eurovisionhistories]

Thank you for the shout out Matt ❤❤

[@ianadam3393]

6:45 she was talking about morocco. she moroccon-canadian. she even talked about it on eurovision video with rylan, she told that it was a funny gesture

[@tvaddictedbooklover]

I think the Anouk theory is spot on, and I don't think France is aiming for a win. But, I also think that they might end up very very high with the juries and you never know, with the right staging and running order, the televote might just swing enough votes his way to end up on top anyway. So happy to see the return of Overthinking Eurovision and quietly hoping for a video on Belgium's entry and the weird experience of seeing multiple people hype it as a potential winner.

[@igortirkajla8042]

Finally, the most well researched, articulated and informative ESC reaction channel is back (btw, funny thing is that I appreciate the most couple of American ones). I hope you'll take time to review Konstrakta although she didn't win, b/c you'll appreciate this years effort, I can bet on it.

[@Asdsfdsf]

I think he would review Teya Dora's Ramonda amazingly well.

[@igortirkajla8042]

@@Asdsfdsf I'm sure of it, I just suggested Konstrakta b/c he got her right last time and I think he'll enjoy it very much what she did this time.

[@marcjasz7208]

You got it wrong about the symbol La Zarra showed, she never said it was to do with Canada, it's actually used in Morroco (she's part Morrocan), that the gesture she showed means exactly what she said. And it isn't a middle finger. It was clearly her turning her hand while showing with two fingers a sort of gathering motion. I don't mean to be rude but this was easy to research and precisely the type of sensionalist journalism that made a big deal of the gesture in the first place. It was still an arrogant gesture, especially with her facial expression she clearly seemed to be saying she's dissapointed, but it was not showing a middle finger to the audience.

[@overthinkingit]

This is fair. I think even so it was a dumb thing for her to do but her explanation wasn't as silly as it sounds at first.

[@giovanniscg8540]

She made a middle finger for the sake of doing it, stop writing bull*hits. She flopped hard and deservedly considering that now her concerts are a flop themselves

[@mappingproductions8632]

Moroccan here! This is straight up false, we have no hand symbol of the sort!!! Please don't spread misinformation, a middle finger has the same connotation in our country as it does in Canada. In addition to that, La Zarra has always been reluctant to display any aspect of her moroccanity, it's almost like she's ashamed of her origins. Moroccans were personally shocked at how whitewashed she was!!!

[@rowenn1729]

do you really believe what she said 😂😂😂, she genuinely knows what the gesture means.

[@bskiy]

Lol what a lack of common sense :) do you really believe everything unacquainted ppl saying on the street?

[@marrx3884]

I thought you where about to roast France. The title made me want to roast the hell out of you 😂. Glad it isn’t a negative review lol. This song is easily top 3 and for me it is the winner.

[@overthinkingit]

In general one of our philosophies is not to worry about "good" or "bad" and just worry about "interesting." No roasts from us (although I guess we did sorta roast Wild Youth last year). There are songs we love this year that we aren't doing videos about, and other songs we'll do 15 minutes on that we don't like that much. But if you must know, Slimane can really sing and he's foxy as hell, and I say that as a straight man. -MB

[@ChristopherDraws]

In terms of potential to win, I think Slimane could earn a lot of votes from people who want a classic ballad, because (at the moment) there are very few of these, and of course he's a seasoned performer, so it will shine in the final. Regardless of where he places, I'm certain this will be good for Slimane and he'll gain huge numbers of new fans as a result of being in the contest.

[@maxx6299]

Hello guys!! So happy to see you back!! It's not Eurovision season without your Overthought videos!! And this year you double the offer. That's awesome!!

[@acquiresoup]

Wether that's France's goal or not, Mon Amour is an amazing ballad and I think it does have potential to go far. Being that there aren't many ballads this year it actually feels fresh and not just "another ballad". As a French speaker, I'm definitely rooting for Slimane.

[@lucasbrayer1867]

France 2 has just published the audience scores for Eurovision 2024. This year, Eurovision had an audience share of 36.8%, an increase of around +10% with 5.3 million spectators, with even a peak of 7.6 million during Slimane's performance. These are historic figures according to the channel. New, it will be interesting to see if these figures will be maintained or deflated the following year. Another good analysis, great job

[@johnmoynahan874]

Ah, Matt Great to have you back The season has now truly began!! 👏👏👏🥳

[@viktors702]

And the legends have returned!

[@Coraaline]

Hi, just discovered your channel and love your analysis! As a Frenchie, I do think it is spot on! Slimane has the almost impossible job of making Eurovision popular in France and I fear French people won’t accept anything below top 10 from him… La Zarra’s gesture was a “toz”, it is not canadian but comes from the arabic vocabulary which can mean disappointment and “I don’t care” among other things 😊 (not an expert though)

[@mimmiblu6138]

Italy couldn't care less (so much so that we pulled out if it for 14 years) about Eurovision until we started being good at it... now shares are improving even though pretty poor if compared to Sanremo, our own song festival.

[@nesquik8214]

Personnellement, avec la chanson qu'ils ont choisi, c'est une erreur pour convaincre les Français de regarder. Déjà le nombre de critiques que Barbara c'était prise parce qu'elle "faisait trop la Edith Piaf" ou que ça soutenait le cliché de la musique fr etc. Donc je suis pas sûre que ça va convaincre. Après ça dépendra du résultat aussi.

[@berniedu7185]

@@nesquik8214les Français détestent l’Eurovision, enfin une grande partie des français. Tu pourras faire ce que tu veux, ça sera toujours de la merde pour eux. Bref !

[@LeykosLykos]

Y'all are baaaaaack!!!! I missed you so much!

[@lillia5333]

I loved La Zarra and her song. Was she a diva? Of course she was. It was her birthright. An icon and a wonderful diva.❤

[@daniozombio]

I hope France continues to send *aggressively French* entries to Eurovision

[@Drag_on_king]

I'm so glad you are back for this season. You had me worried that something happened.

[@stevenwilliams3038]

I hope France does well Its my favorite song (that has been announced so far) in Eurovision this year.

[@AramAmirbekian]

La Zarra was an icon.

[@berniedu7185]

An icon ??? 😂😂😂

[@giovanniscg8540]

A flop icon that holds concerts at the incredible price of 3€ because nobody wants to see her

[@evivox]

@@berniedu7185and a legend

[@AureWaxman]

Interesting. It worked well with Noa Kirel here. I love it when countries send us their favorite artists. It shows respect to us and their Pop culture.

[@maximedasilva9452]

Its dosent make totally in Frnace I think

[@alemagno11]

Please don't stop. This channel is, by far, the best!!

[@Hope00Love]

I actually went to your channel a few weeks ago to see if I had somehow missed your return for 2024. So glad you're back!

[@broerbier]

Finally, you're back! You guys had me worried for a while, and there's so much to overthink this year

[@ninab.2323]

Finally! I was waiting for you guys 🥳🥳🥳

[@Masaim6]

To be fair La Zarra Seems to have calmed down a lot after last year and in particular with one issue she is very right.

[@koelkastridder3388]

😏

[@leanykakicsi6152]

Which issue?

[@marcjasz7208]

@@leanykakicsi6152 israel ban, she's possibly the first "established" artist in the community to openly call for it

[@el_naif]

That only confirms she’s coockoo.

[@Ronkyort0dox]

​@@marcjasz7208so an antisemite. Awesome

[@KatEtoile]

Maybe it’s harder to impress France with their own entry than the rest of Europe, so with this strategy they can win… it’s similar to the UK. Sam Ryder’s song was a big jump in quality and taken seriously. Then it was a surprise that Europe loved it too.

[@rocketpants785]

Anouk also had the hit "Nobody's Wife" back in 1997 which lives rent free in the head of a lot of people

[@llamaboy]

This has made me realise that France and the UK are actually having quite similar experiences at Eurovision at the moment. Both have had one recent major success, and have both found themselves very hands-on with the contest (UK with hosting last year, and France with their two JESC hostings recently), but they’re both struggling to replicate the results they’ve both had. And so they’ve both made a similar move this year, by selecting established artists to try and get the public to care

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

I personally think they are. They will most likely win the jury vote or come top 3 with Silimane's voice alone and the televote will surprise people. Don't count them out!

[@overthinkingit]

I love it when we're wrong about every prediction, it's kind of a fun running joke at this point. -MB

[@Mira_Dra_Le]

heeeeeyyyyy welcome back we've missed you!!!!!!!!!!

[@Charlotte-xt4wx]

slimane is very well known in other french speaking countries like belgium and switzerland so i dont know how true it is that france only picked him to boost their viewing figures within france. he was also a judge on the voice belgium and currently on tour in europe and people have been impressed with his performance of mon amour especially on dora.

[@rutholdfield3679]

WELCOME BACK!! It's been FOREVER!!! And thanks so much for the inside story on France ... I'm loving Slimane and his song

[@gameotaku900]

It still is my clear Number 1!

[@ESCTom]

Zomg you’re back ❤🎉 🤩

[@vicsymons1570]

Wtf...But Slimane is for everybody and he is well known in Belgium, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and the eurofans already knew him so no he is not only for the french people... Of course France is trying to win with Slimane, 47 years and you really think that they don't want to win with one of their best singer? You're wrong I think.

[@mb-176]

Please make one about Zorra, it's caused a lot of discourse here in Spain! I would love to see your take on it.

[@ESCHayden]

Long time no see. I was starting to wonder if you were dead 😭

[@line_vondensternen337]

That's normal for us, we don't do many videos in the off-season

[@theophilepetit6223]

Slimane is (or was, idk if he's still) a judge on The Voice Belgium, maybe the French delegation just wanted to get the votes of their neighbors lol

[@gameoverb_tch]

from our juries, probably from the televote... he will be in our top 10 for sure bc of his fanbase but i can also tell you a lot of people here in belgium are just *bored* of him 😭

[@vicsymons1570]

​@@gameoverb_tch bored? Explain

[@crow22zero]

Yesss you’re back guys! Amazing! Your insight is truly outstanding, the research you do on this channel is superb!

[@Tollkirschenkind]

OMG you're back 🥰 Just in time, because last week I was searching for you, thought maybe you wouldn't be recommended to me anymore, but here you are!

[@bastbats1952]

Since we are talking about viewing numbers, it is important to note about France that Eurovision is broadcasted on France 2, the biggest public-owned channel on French tv but not the biggest channel overall. The main competitor is TF1, which is a privately owned tv broadcaster that is not only the first channel in France, but also in Europe overall in terms of viewers (you can fact-check this on the mighty wikipedia if you don't believe me). So basically, while Eurovision is admittedly not as popular in France, as you explained in the video by comparing to a random cop show, it is also starting at a disadvantage compared to the UK, for example, which airs Eurovision on BBC1, the most viewed channel in Britain anyways.

[@schnitzelsemmel]

I'd be happy if you were able to point me towards the Wikipedia article you cite as calling TF1 the biggest TV channel in Europe, because I couldn't find anything like that. It generally seems tough to compare channels in different countries, because based on what metric? The most popular metric the French channels use for promotions are the "total reach", which are dubious, and the "total hours watched" which is not measured in all countries equally). You can go for individual shows and time slots. The TF1 20hrs seems to be the most watched news programme in Europe, before the Tagesschau and BBC's News at 10, but in prime time, TF1 looses to both German channels ARD and ZDF. TF1 barly gets over 3.3million spectators, and on some days they fall behind France2, while both ARD and ZDF have more than 3,7million usually. A crass example is last Monday, where TF1 had 2.9million www.ozap.com/actu/audiences-quel-score-pour-le-lancement-de-la-peste-avec-frederic-pierrot-sur-france-2-face-au-retour-de-lycee-toulouse-lautrec-sur-tf1/642747 ZDF's 20:15 programme on that day had 6,9 million. www.ozap.com/actu/audiences-quel-score-pour-le-lancement-de-la-peste-avec-frederic-pierrot-sur-france-2-face-au-retour-de-lycee-toulouse-lautrec-sur-tf1/642747 There's obviously a lot of fluctuation, but if you look at almost every time slot on multiple days, the main news at 20h are the only slot where TF1 wins over both German channels.

[@bastbats1952]

@@schnitzelsemmel You are right, it's not always clear how they calculate this. But I've heard this about TF1 for many years and it does state it on the second paragraph of the wikipedia page : "TF1 est la première chaîne de France et même d'Europe en termes d'audience". In any case, my point was more to say that depending on the broadcaster, viewing figures will change. It is true the UK loves Eurovision more than France, for example, but the huge viewing figures over there are helped by having the biggest broadcaster air the show, as oppose to France where it is not the biggest channel that broadcasts the contest.

[@k.v.7681]

There's also a matter of audience targeting to consider. Cop shows do incredibly well in France, older ladies love them, and TV is very much a retiree thing in France, it's the main audience. Under 50 years old, there is a monumental part of potential audience that just goes for streaming after they're done watching the news. A good way to guess what the audience of a program is is to watch the ads. Most cop shows will show ads for intimate soaps, lady products and cars.

[@Halliinnchuks]

I've been anxiously waiting for your videos. There are so many songs this year to overthink :)

[@carladv1479]

So glad you guys are back 🎉 love your videos. While I agree that with Slimane they are trying to attract more interest in the contest in France, I also think that since Barbara’s Voilà the French delegation has been trying to win the contest and replicate the success they have in JESC. Slimane is a strong candidate and he will definitely stand out this year amongst all the upbeat funny songs.

[@nocturne7371]

This mehe interest in Eurovision and the national selection is so foreign to me living in country where the national selection is THE TV show and has one of the highest ratings for the Broadcaster. I live in Sweden.

[@kaitlins2934]

I love the idea of looking back! There is so much fascinating history in Eurovision.

[@dusan2667]

Gotta do Europapa and Ramonda. Very glad to have you guys back!

[@audi0078]

That Ramonda wont make it to the finals lol. Netherlands will be top 10

[@egyptianhibiscus9203]

Excuse me, "Ramonda" will be top 10 at least

[@gertruda3834]

You wish! Its not the point about results but overthunking. Why are you even watching this channel? ​@@audi0078

[@carmenplangger9417]

I remember the Austrian commentator cursed live on TV in 2014. Because hosting the thing would be expensive.

[@Imaginarie]

Great to see you back! Can't wait for the upcoming overthinking videos 😌

[@realpirate]

Can't wait for you to do the Dutch entry - thank you for overthinking my favorite contest 🥳 I haven't missed one since Waterloo, only found your channel now and am bedazzled by all the background info 🏴‍☠

[@victorlenoble6643]

Tbf the Netherlands' broadcasting share seems more related to being in the final of the contest. But the two effects may as well add to each other.

[@koelkastridder3388]

Every year the Netherlanda doesn't make the finale there are noticably fewer people watching

[@eso4286]

I waited on baited breath for this series to be back. So happy it’s returned!

[@renskedunnewold1995]

As a Dutchie who has been wachting Eurovision all my life, spot on. Our entries (and by extention the whole of Eurovision) had become a joke in the eyes of much of the country. A big star like Anouk choosing to participate was a big deal, and it set us on the path towards victory in 2019. I know many people who tune in each year now, but only started doing so in 2013.

[@Hana9916]

You're back!!!

[@TheBestWeddingMusic]

French singer And the song are amazing. I love it!

[@FredWalker-v8m]

You're back!!!! I was getting worried!

[@DoraSometimes]

Although I'm proud Croatian, after all has ended, I cannot stop listening and singing Slimane's song. Maybe because I know French? Not just that. It's such amazing song, to me it sounds like hymn.

[@Eurovulcan]

Omg you're finally back! Yes!

[@MalenaCPH]

Hi, love to see you back!!! Pls do a video about Jalisse - Fiumi di Parole and all the drama with Sanremo.

[@glaudio67]

As always a great video which gives another perspective on the french entry in Eurovision... and lots of other things. The strategy behind the early announcement of Slimane as french representative in eurovision 2024 was also to associate Eurovision with probably the currently most succesful french artist and make forget La Zarra... before hosting Junior Eurovision in Nice. As for Slimane it's a great opportunity to gain more fame in Europe and beyond and tour in non french speaking countries as Barbara Pravi could do after her brilliant result back in 2021.

[@EmmisonMike]

I loved France this year in Eurovision, especially since it succeeded where Greece (right before France in the semi) failed, being more intimate with the screen than a performance seemingly designed for a cellphone, while so grand as to show the whole auditorium and belt into the microphone from two cubic mitres away. They deserved their flowers for that performance, especially since France doesn't leave too much of an impact normally, from what I recall (barring voila, I haven't heard that before but it sounds like the end of the world and I love it for that).

[@MokumHVB]

Really cool videos! I like a lot you do so much back ground info and give analyses. I love France´s entry. For me it feels incredebly French and Slimane has such a powerfull voice! His semi finale performance was mesmerizing. I realy loved it, usually not my type of music.

[@TheFrkSofa]

I am sooooo excited seeing you guys back! Can't wait for Thursday :D

[@factoryofchaos5672]

Fulenn is still on my playlist and always will be. Europe has no taste.... Which Netta's win confirms. Slayman is amazing, i wish him luck. Hopefully Europe will recognize and reward his talent.

[@ellem8990]

I liked the song, but the live performance was pretty bad and from what I saw online, it seems like that's how other felt aswell so they didn't vote. That being said, I have been starting to find a lot of the eurovision fans tastes questionable lol.

[@Purple-Family-88]

He is so Beautiful & he can sing.I Love his performance.

[@heidiedarwit]

TODO EL AÑO ESPERANDO UN VIDEO NUEVO!! AMOOOO!!!

[@czechistan_zindabad]

tbh, I feel like none of the Big 5 countries try to ever win (except for Italy I guess)

[@ESCHayden]

🇫🇷 21, 🇬🇧 22, 🇪🇸 23. And both 🇬🇧🇪🇸 have explicitly said they want to win, even if they haven't got the results since 2022 to get there.

[@han-oq6bo]

Italy doesn't care about eurovision. They send their sanremo winner and sanremo is older than eurovision itself. What Europe thinks of their song is very very very much an afterthought

[@Olivier-GM]

Stéphane Sitbon-Gomez, #2 of France Televisions said after the French victory at the Eurovision Junior in November « Avant les JO 2024, on veut gagner l’Eurovision » (We want to win the Eurovision before the Olympics"). (source 20 minutes). I can't be more explicit.

[@bskiy]

Yay! New season! Congrats! We've missed you!

[@shawnverbonac5971]

As a Canadian, I can confirm this is very untrue

[@j0hnegan]

Was sort of expecting you to say something about Slimane's actual song and how it's been performed. :(

[@overthinkingit]

Everyone did that back in November. We’re trying to find some new angles to explore.

[@CosmoMaster888]

Welp, good news is he reached 4th lol

[@overthinkingit]

Yup we’re gonna have to apologize for this, he did great!

[@driadka]

Happy to see you back! 😊

[@ameliecarre4783]

Picking an entry that will be popular in France but won't win the contest will have the effect of interesting the french audience only marginally. They will watch this year for Slimane, won't be interested in the other entries, won't get interested in the ESC more than they previously were, will be gutted when Slimane doesn't win, will keep a generally bad opinion of the ESC or form an even worse one, and next year France TV will have to face the same problem again. Short-term thinking. Except for the fact that Sweden is hosting this year, therefore the show's gonna be a massive banger overall, so I don't know, maybe it will hook some new fans up for years to come.

[@UniDashCorn]

Please can you do a deep dive into Joost Klein - his song is fascinating to me this year - it's "fun" but not (if that makes sense). I would find a deep dive so interesting.

[@mrcaos999]

Well, at least they have some idea behind it. Germany keeps loosing because the NDR thinks it knows how to pick music even though they keep failing;)

[@wuw127]

Yeah, It showed when they almost sento Electric callboy to Eurovision and the they didn't loosing the only rael chance they ever had to win.

[@overthinkingit]

@wuw127 By “almost sent” you mean “didn’t even let them participate in the selection,” right? One of the great Eurovision bag fumbles of all time.

[@Rafaelinux]

Every week from now 'til Malmów? Hehehe Love to have your videos back again

[@polarfox5454]

welcome back old friend, you've been missed.

[@igortirkajla8042]

I wonder what's the reason behind French success in Junior Eurovision - it's hardly because of the ratings, yet they are like in absolute dominance there...? I'd personally love for them to win, since I still can't get over the fact how Amina lost to Carola. And considering I am fan of the contest for 40 years now, I'd love to see every country winning during my lifetime.

[@juliaczernikowska2056]

So excited for more videos!

[@opresopre]

Who is Travis Kelsey/Kelsay?

[@qwertylello]

What is the crossword that briefly appears at 9:19 supposed to mean??? I need answers

[@BenKroll]

Seems like there's an ARG going on, the newest video spells the premise out (the nightcore remix one). Not sure how far anyone has gotten with it yet but it's definitely interesting.

[@snowcold5932]

La Zarra's gesture was a tozz, commonly used in the Maghreb (she's part moroccan)

[@erianthe76]

This channel is the highlight of my Eurovision season! 🎉

[@aekelly]

So glad you're back! I was worried, starting to get disappointed! Looking forward to your thoughts on Ukraine's song!

[@Sonnen_Licht]

So happy to see you back 😭

[@tagaway6173]

You guys look amazing! Happy belated Honeymoon 💕

[@austinthesan-antonian3932]

Love the Network applause at 8:30

[@reinisrudzitis8254]

You kinda remind me of my this year's national entry 😄( And I hope he'll finally get Latvia out of the seemingly never-ending streak of NonQualification )

[@miguellupi8709]

Mon amour isn't strong enough to win as presented today. Either they released it early to do a winning revamp soon or... you are right, they don't really want to win. 😂

[@vicsymons1570]

You wish

[@miguellupi8709]

@vicsymons1570 why would I not wish? Nothing against France (voted for Voila to win). Just an opinion about this year's song.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

They released it early because Slimane wanted to sing it on his pre scheduled tour.

[@JamieJooESC]

YOU'RE BAAAAAAAACK!!!!

[@alexandros1973]

My friend if you were brothers with Travis Kelce, you would certainly be the good looking one… by a margin! I love your video, it is a very welcome surprise after all the silly Eurovision videos I’ve seen. Keep up the good work 👌

[@Eurovision-OLD]

You're back! 🧡

[@ESCKrish]

Your viewing figures graph indicates that when a country does well, its viewership increases. So surely sending something that Europe would like would actually be the path to increased interest in eurovision? The 'Anouk effect' was 100% dependant on her doing well after all.

[@MyrtleP]

Well great! Now I'm going to have Matt's kid creepily reciting the Birds lyrics in my head... Again.

[@overthinkingit]

He’s in college now. 😬

[@MyrtleP]

@@overthinkingit Does that mean he's finally old enough to watch Human Centipede?

[@overthinkingit]

@@MyrtleP Been thinking about this one and I vaguely remember the joke but can't place it. Do you remember? - MB

[@MyrtleP]

@@overthinkingit omg! Way to make me do a deep dive through your back catalog! The clip was such a non-sequitur, I couldn't remember ANY of the rest of the video is was in. Anyway! I finally found it. It's 3:54 from the 2015 review of The Netherlands. lol

[@overthinkingit]

@@MyrtleP Thanks! Honestly I can't even watch those old videos anymore, anything from before like 2018 is just cringe to me which is a good thing. - MB

[@mo4848]

Very cute trip pics 😘

[@idraote]

to be honest, ditching a room because it's dirty it's not diva behaviour.