(these) estonian bros know something (about eurovision)

The fandom doesn't believe Estonia's 5miinust x puuluup supergroup can be a contender. Are they on drugs? SEE THE NIGHTCORE REMIX HERE: • (these) estonian bros ...
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[@5MIINUST]

wow. 😮

[@overthinkingit]

You dropped these: 🕶 Good luck in Malmö, boys.

[@Foreverandever-gn8rw]

sama (armastame teid 5-miinust)

[@deprivalli]

we don’t deserve you 5miinust (& the talharping friends puuluup), but i thank you for blessing us anyway. get that win !!!!

[@user-qi8hq3fz2m]

Woo! 5miinus!

[@Madippadibabas]

(what's) the best act of eurovision 2024 (and why is it estonia)

[@motherofslavs8761]

I am seriously impressed by your analysis. One of the rare esc youtubers that actually takes the time to understand the artistry in the original context, language and with cultural references...chef's kiss.

[@efi3825]

In a way, removing one of the minuses from 5miinust was actually a plus.

[@vretnamkosan2202]

I really hope Eurovision appreciates this song, I've been listening to it non-stop.

[@nurrnena7798]

I love, that you really have done your research! Also Puuluup members are master trollers live. There’s a live video of a song called “Chika Pua”. They try to explain what this song means: Ramo is speaking in Estonian and Marko translates into English. Of course, the translation part is completely different to what Ramo is actually saying. Also every time I’ve seen them live, they have a different story of what this song means. And the stories are really detailed, like you almost actually believe them. They talk so masterfully, that only when you start to think about what they’re saying, you understand that they’re talking nonsense. They are just a bunch how guys having fun.

[@LCDVF]

Living, maybe? 🎉

[@virolainenVirosta]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1044">17:24</a> I think you’re a bit wrong about this, and it is actually another reference to the TV show “Politseikroonika” that you mention later in the video (and that is referenced in the next line of the song). There’s this very famous clip of “Politseikroonika” that’s known as “Siberi rahaboss” (“moneyboss from Siberia” in English, it’s briefly seen in the video at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1172">19:32</a>), where the host visits three drunken people in a disgusting and cluttered apartment, one of whom is a guy who keeps repeating how he earned a lot of money in Siberia (hence the name). In that episode, the woman in the group says “mul ei ole… meil ei ole narkomaane…” which in English means “I don’t have… we don’t have any junkies…[here]”. The first line of the song might actually reference this phrase. Later on the woman mentions how they gather stuff from garbage and says this: “Näete, seesama kleit, mis mul seljas on - see on ka leitud prügikastist” which in English means “You see, the same dress that I’m wearing - this was also found from a garbage can”. Of course this is just speculation on my part, but it wouldn’t be the first time this particular episode of “Politseikroonika” is referenced in a song.

[@itst2t2]

Heh funny thing is when I sent in potential clips to the boys for 19:32 I had actually noted that exact line as a potential callback (would have needed fixing the subs since the compilation with eng subs we got from hobune translated kleit => skirt, and the current selection works better out of context), and none of us [over]thought about it to connect the two But hey can always have multiple meanings too

[@piiluja]

I think it's absolutely no coincidence as there exists also 5Miinust + Öökülm remake kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipe7paxuj5aNd5Y of original song about Siberian money boss, "Viskilaul" ("The Whiskey Song"). So they are surely using that bum lady motive from that legendary "Politseikroonika" episode what could be rephrased as: "we are honest hard-consuming bums, look, we are even wearing clothes found from dumpster, how dare you mix us up with some damn junkies."

[@RubyChiang]

All of this origin story just makes me love these Estonian guys even more!

[@silja6838]

I’m so excited about them going to Eurovision because my dad has built their instruments 🤩 And I also just really love this song!

[@rebekkanikula9986]

Onko ne jouhikkoja suomesta? Vai onko virossa oma soitintyyppi?

[@silja6838]

@@rebekkanikula9986 joo, Suomessa tehdyt jouhikot 😊

[@It_a_Kis]

​@@rebekkanikula9986 talharpa!!

[@0626love]

Estonian here. Wow my mind is blown over the attention to detail in this video, blown on multiple levels 🤣😂😂😂 when I thought you couldn't go any deeper, you went even deeper (lol @ scenes from Politseikroonika). Now I can't even imagine your levels of overthinking in every day life 🤣 like how's this even possible without knowing estonian and being inside the culture for years. SUper skills

[@phuttyyt]

Minor claim to fame: I was the Production Team Supervisor for ESC 2002 in Tallinn, and it was during a meeting about the postcards and how to allocate them between entries that I suggested 'So many beautiful women' be shown before Slovenia 😅 I also recommended that 'Freedom' presage Russia...

[@yugi1714]

When you mentioned the 'suvilas' being meth labs i think you're a bit off cause most Estonians have summer houses due to them being being cheap back in the day. And because Estonia is a relatively small country it's not time consuming to go to your summer houses year round and most people do so. So in my opinion i think they just meant it as a hangout spot.

[@shalalahs]

Yeah i wanted to mention the same: Having a suvila is not a sign of anyone being rich. Estonians used to live in rural places, and yes, young people move into bigger towns but the rural homes generally stayed in the families. Everyone needs a place to leave the towns behind for Jaanipäev ok.

[@1tastiger1]

And I have learned something new while wasting time on KZbin. Thanks!

[@malevich92]

Even from the little clips of this song you played, I’m ready to break out into a dance. Ugh it’s just so good, the community is sleeping on it, but Europe won’t. Thank you for yet another amazing video!

[@halbtonschritt3702]

The singer of the 1980 duck song was Estonias first ever Eurovision representative in 1994, Silvi Vrait.

[@marteninho]

wanted to see if i was right about that, thanks for confirming

[@lroke2947]

Heh, had that typed in until I decided to check for redundancy before posting. Thanks for looking up the year as well! :)

[@oehlbormturn]

one of my faves this year I feel like they and their performance are something that can appeal to people from all ages.

[@SmolAliens]

My 6 month old baby loves the song. We have used it to calm her down if she’s crying, or to make her laugh by getting her arms to do the dance. Definitely ‘all ages’ :)

[@riinr2087]

@@SmolAliens, so sweet 🥰 😀

[@TashaKoenig]

As a wannabe anthropologist sitting on Tibetan and Bhutanese Buddhism for over a decade... I totally freaking relate to him taking 18 years for his thesis LOL

[@lroke2947]

Well, you certainly do your homework! I learned many new things about my country's entry. :D

[@Halliinnchuks]

This year's Eurovision is absolutely a party first (trophy second), whoever wins, will have deserved it. But I am fixing my sound system and planning who'm I want to invite to watch the show and dance.

[@zzarkoo]

Is that Michael VSauce here

[@18pristine]

I believe he retired and moved to estonia and now living his dream to perform in Eurovision

[@efi3825]

So, the V in VSauce stands for "Viis". We finally found out!

[@Vanavanapagan]

@@efi3825 There was never a Michael VSauce, it was all just a longform cultural experiment from Puulup.

[@MustiiForTheWin]

So Michael VSauce's actual name is Marko Veisson?

[@skye1013]

Marko "viis-sauce"

[@HereWithTeti]

Not me, passing by Estonian elementary-middle school another day and hearing this song, sung by some 7 year-olds. And then later someone blasted Käärijä in the classroom Taste👌

[@S0-102]

Thats basically all that kids listen to here

[@dasmysteryman12]

I have a personal connection to Puuluup by proxy. I used to work in an Estonian cultural centre in Toronto. They hold an Estonian Music Week festival once every two years. My former supervisor knows Puuluup very well. She and other colleagues invited them for EMW's 2019 edition. They were a massive hit among those who attended. Fast forward to today, sometime immediately after they won, she tagged them on Facebook to celebrate.

[@pagaporvista569]

So hope they can pull off (or puuluup) a Moldova 2022! Thanks for this background story, gotta move them in my to 10 (currently my 12th place). So many good artist this year!

[@IABITVpresents]

pull Estonia up

[@IABITVpresents]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1198">19:58</a> Worth noting that "Papaveri e papere" came 2nd on the second ever Sanremo music festival, which is distinct for how the top 3 was all occupied by the singer Nilla Pizzi. Love how we joke about Sanremo not having a male solo winner for 10 years in recent memory, while the early Sanremo editions were all about women (in a way).

[@IABITVpresents]

I used to watch Overthinking It the first time they tackled Eurovision in 2013 (from Malmö to Malmö), when there were more guys in the channel digging into 3 songs at a time, and the channel still tackled things other than Eurovision. Dare I say this is one of the most anticipated videos for me personally in terms of Overthinking It Eurovision coverage? (then again I love it when every Eurovision-tackling platform/person with at least a little bit more charisma and analyzing skill power covers my favourite songs of the year hahaha)

[@heyy13]

This is my favourite song of the year. It's cool to see it get a video.

[@catarinavh1835]

You are doing eurovision God's work. For real, amazing work. Thank you so much

[@johannes_floehr]

uuuuuuuuuh yeaaaaaaaah!!

[@steivsilm]

You missed a detail :) "Pardike ja mooniõis" was a song by a group called Fix whose lead singer in that song was Silvi Vrait (you showed her) and Silvi of course was the first estonian in Eurovison finals with the song "Nagu merelaine" in 1994.

[@idraote]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="852">14:12</a> Stefan's song was great, definitely one of my favourite, that year.

[@Mees_]

In 2013 Winny Puhh was participating in Eesti laul with the song "Meiecundimees üks Korsakov läks eile Lätti" they didn't win, but I think it would have fit Eurovision well

[@innerview6298]

It was golden!

[@TarvoMetspalu]

Estonian here. Thank you for this in-depth analysis about Estonian modern Eurovision/music culture. I really learned a ton! :)

[@johnocarroll2325]

Now I like the song even more.

[@lasthmatique]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1245">20:45</a> I hope with all my heart that this is a VSauce reference Incredible work by the way !

[@clevomon]

OMG, thank you so much! I love this song and have been wondering what it's trying to say FOREVER! It's like, "I'm pretty sure they're trying to say something, but damned if I know what it is."

[@skye1013]

There are lyric videos with translations as well

[@catabyte]

Thank you so much for talking about this song. So catchy and fun …and once I read the translated lyrics (which unfortunately most casual Eurovision viewers won’t see), I was completely hooked. I have had it on repeat ever since and it’s aging well. The video was also hilarious. If this doesn’t make it to the final I will be so so sad. Sending lots of #CaliforniaLove and 12 points!

[@overthinkingit]

My nightmare scenario is both Estonia and Finland NQ. I will never recover. -MB

[@catabyte]

@@overthinkingit That would be a nightmare indeed. I’m also really hoping Armenia qualifies - the world deserves the fun and flavor of that one too.

[@sirprintalot]

I feel like the fans have cooled on the song because it dropped actual months ago (December?), in a regular year you would say this would do well in the televote but it's quite a televote heavy year. I love it myself but I can equally see this coming Top 5 in the televote as I can see it NQing.

[@efi3825]

Sabaton also has a board game, by the way. I haven't played it yet, but I am eager to try it out, because having a 7.0 rating on Boardgamegeek and being from Pegasus Spiele, it could be nice.

[@benjwilliams5104]

I am beyond stoked for their collab album!! My husband is already sick of me playing Viimane Suusataja on repeat

[@IABITVpresents]

finished the video. disappointed that there was no shoutout to Vsauce. although maybe <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1247">20:47</a> counts (but it needed the Vsauce cue music :c )

[@Korilian13]

I'm really looking forward to that album now!

[@miriam3848]

Best review, hands down! Great work!!

[@jakob5027]

Damn, never have I seen a YT channel do such a deep dive into research and be completely accurate!

[@lagritsalammas]

What a thorough video essay! Loved it!

[@anakosovic6727]

12 points from me, 😂😍

[@erickbaka]

Super high quality infotainment! The research you do really does leave no stones unturned.

[@FraiseLK]

Honestly, these guys is among my top favourites this year, and I'm really hoping they can beat the odds. Their song is just such a fun one

[@schnitzelsemmel]

You're still not over your historic mistake of underestimating Moldova hahahah

[@joosepkubar2124]

Very impressive and thorough research!

[@knusprigeschuhsohle7939]

Thank you for all your research, this was very interesting and informative ❤

[@InSaHe86]

Thank you for the video. Got some nice facts i didn't know 😊

[@taniaphillips9766]

I love this so much. Thank you.

[@ATG-gc2cy]

On April Fool's Day, you pranked me with a video on my favourite song of 2016. The following day, you rewarded me with this video on my favourite song of 2024. All is forgiven.

[@revo5530]

you just nailed that politseikroonika part(Y)

[@qilorar]

wow, just wwow, that was an amazing analyis, thank you so much, so interesting and so deep, full of extra stories

[@FeeESC]

This was greatt, i love this entry its in my top 10. You should definitely do the Netherlands 🇳🇱🇪🇺

[@Jakumata]

I am stunned by your in depth research. Seriously I have such a high respect for them, but your analysis. Sold the song to me. Jumping on the Estonia bandwagon like right now ❤

[@deprivalli]

my winner

[@Crudeliciousbops]

My winner this year

[@etsique]

Truly impressive amount of research you've done here.

[@Rebasepoiss]

Great analysis!

[@meropale]

Wow, I had no idea about Rockefeller Street! That is the coolest Eurovision news I've heard today. Estonia has my favorite song at Eurovision 2024.

[@danikim235]

These guys are awesome together. Yet another gem that came from my recent Eurovision obsession. I will definitely listen to their album!

[@jimkats1]

That's a weird mix indeed, but it turns out it's a really good one.

[@xanperia]

What a great video! I learnt many things from it. I once took a deep dive into the lyrics of this song and one line made me think they might know about those drugs after all. The line "Prillid on pupilli...ei noh pulli pärast ikka" which at first doesn't make a lot of sense and can be dismissed easily, but when you think about it and fill in some blanks yourself, it very well can be that they start to say "the glasses are for hiding dilated pupils" but then quickly, in the middle of the sentence, change it into "no, it's actually just for fun". And they ARE wearing sunglasses on the stage, so... is it really just for fun, or are these characters sus after all? 🤔

[@crow22zero]

Incredible video AGAINNNN 😭😭😭💖💖💖

[@vanesssaT]

This was excellent! We are looking forward to your interpretation of the Greek and Dutch entries

[@chdimas]

Great group great song and what a video you did once again dude. Well done

[@cendrapolsner8438]

Awwww, once again, such a sweet and well researched video, thank you Overthinkers, I never tire of this channel! Also, while I enjoyed vibing to "Nendest (...)", I wasn't much of a big fave of mine so far. Your analysis, once again, had me re-evaluate my judgement and deepened my enjoyment! I just love how overthinking Eurovision in the right way, seeing that still many peeps dismiss ESC as a "trash-show", can actually reveal why Eurovision is anything but trash! Much love, a 40+ yrs devoted fan of the European mad music olympics! :*

[@karlteine]

pretty good research there brother

[@user-fp8pq9kf5e]

Awesome!

[@Noam10391]

Top quality video I'm subscribing now!

[@Razorgirl]

If folks haven’t seen it, Google their winning performance at the selection competition with the Sign Language interpreter. It’s ACE. I hope they have footage of his interpretations on the screen behind them.

[@mervekarpov7305]

🎉🎉🎉 another combination of nice stories. I’m assuming the next is Rimtimtagidim. :)

[@daily_depression]

I love how the KZbin captions didn't even try to get the Estonian names and stuff right

[@meropale]

I'm glad you referenced Valentina ❤

[@musikkritisk]

One of my top10 of this year, it started at 4th place but it settled down in 8th place ;)

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

🇫🇮❤🇪🇪

[@Peterhorowitz7653]

Hey. Been watching your content for a while. I’m genuinely baffled as to how you come up with such a well researched and funny script. Must take hours to do but I can see your passion. Is there any way to financially support you guys? Like a patreon or something?

[@SCP-049.4]

Hey puuluup! Michael here. Where am I?

[@yourskaia]

estonia is easily my fav entry in 2024

[@martinkoitmae6655]

Nice video👌

[@MokumHVB]

Little Big, Uno Eurovision 2020 (even though it was cancelled) has 283 million views.. I love the Estonian song for this year. I was just so disappointed they had no translation with their videos in subtitles. But I say in a comment the translation and loved the lyrics to. I will vote for them and song is in my playlist. Great music video also! 💖

[@sebastianniittyvuopio5017]

12 p from🇫🇮

[@fuusok]

I learnt so many things about my own country, lol. And gained new respect for @5miinust , did not realise how deep the references in their songs go. I have said for years that 5miinust should represent Estonia in Eurovision since they are what Estonians actually listen to (apparently I did not know any of the Estonian Eurovision songs since 2017 ._.), even tho I don't really like their music myself.

[@herne4504]

this is so underrated what.

[@Valdna]

What an interesting video regarding Eurovision and it's participant. Cheers!!

[@KutsugeMindUrmoks]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="360">6:00</a> I forgive you

[@Rantasalmi47]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="177">2:57</a> Mans is now way ahead of everyone else in my favorite eurovision winner category

[@jackmichaelcarr3555]

yoooo I got into Puulupp in 2023 at WOMAD

[@kairoosaar5530]

Thorough.

[@lorvik]

Luup actually translates to a magnifying glass

[@itst2t2]

While it's the primary meaning, luup is also defined as "a sound clip that's recorded live, but made to repeat" [EKI Ühendsõnastik 2024/Sõnaveeb] (Also it's the definition Puuluup prefers)

[@MrGarryRollo]

Puuluup is actually better know world wide then 5miinus. Puuluup has performed in India and other places. 5miinus is just a local drug and party band. They promote music about tits and other sex and drug stuff which children seem to really enjoy and sing along. That controversial for me. But they both are big in Estonia and sell out concerts.

[@miZuZYN]

This video was not only informative but oh so hilarious without subtitles. Estonian sounds similar to Finnish and shares a lot of the same words, but the language sounds so funny to us. Estonian sounds like Finnish (specially Helsinki's dialect) spoken while having a stroke caused by alcohol poisoning. God I love these guys, hopefully they perform well in Malmö.

[@tarapitagaming3284]

I never comment but this video is so great I just had to.

[@overthinkingit]

This is a high compliment, thank you.

[@rzaku5536]

This title made me giggle a lot

[@ggfreites]

Valentina Monetta Mentioned!!! Uh oh uh uh uh!

[@kadibelkuusk9633]

Estonia mentioned

[@marekmadisoo322]

kena :D !

[@herne4504]

marko looks like vsauce

[@willewiking98]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="983">16:23</a> wow, i did not know about estonia and drugs. damn

[@rumi7000]

insane detail

[@rumi7000]

how the f did u dig up that politseikroonika clip????!! wow👏