Frank James Interview on Being a Husband, Parenting, 16 Personalities Skits & INFJ Enneagram 4 -isms

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[@davidkepke1435]

Use to watch him when he had about 1000 subscribers. Good to see he has a wife, child, and over 1M subs now. Way to go FJ.

[@aladdout9454]

HE HAS A WHAT NOW?

[@drchristopherjsernaque]

"I highly recommend parenthood."-Frank James In an age of anti-humanism, I'm grateful to hear you say that Frank. 🙏

[@ellie8001]

38:41 The INFJ stare 😊

[@waftsofpetrichor]

1:01 The intense Ni stare is so relatable as an infj. 😂

[@AnniePants367]

Considering his old vlogs , and just how much he struggled with love, almost believing, in my opinion, that he would not be able to find someone I’m happy with how much he has evolved. I remember, it took him a long time to get over someone :( it was hard not to feel empathy. just talking about just his own heart aches and feeling self-conscious, which always surprises me, because he is so handsome and smart, you would figure women would be just throwing themselves at him. And if I could blunt , I don’t really care if he’s mistyped . I do believe he’s an INFJ, but if he’s an INFP what does that change about him? Does that change all the cool things he’s done and all the people he’s reached. He’s reached people since day one. He is one of a kind. And before you accuse me of fawning , I am married lol we both enjoy Franks work :-)

[@meowhahaha]

Agree

[@gracesellars4568]

I feel exactly the same with what u are saying

[@jessenceq3250]

I remember those vlogs too (and miss them). I watched it a few months after his first video. 🥲 I totally still feel as he did at times - but I've often convinced myself I couldn't do something for awhile (inhibit myself). I'm an Enneagram 6 so it's very prominent. As a kid, I predicted I would never learn how to read or be good at cursive. I'm great at it. I convinced myself I couldn't hold a full time job (due to past work trauma) and live on my own. But with putting myself out there, people helped me do just that once I took the initial steps, even when terrified. I like his idea about narrowing down main aspects to what we need in a partner. What is essential? Ni power. Now I'm starting to believe I can get a Bachelor's degree with lots of research for my 10 year plan. I can dream lofty and try to find means to make more money and live a life more true to my needs and eventual desires. But even if that doesn't pan out as expected, I'm inspired by what he shared one on his podcast some years back: what are the essential aspects of the goal/dream you have and how can you rework it if needed? He has a theatre degree and now has a successful channel. He learned how to do the tech stuff and what landed well for others through patterns. He has a meaningful following and is a revolutionary! I think Joyce is also a revolutionary. I absolutely love what she does, her engagement, questions, knowledge, leadership and inspiring others to come together! Invaluable! Both inspire me so much when I see a dark future ahead, projecting doubt from only what I've known and held onto. There's more to be experienced, and I'm NOT the same exact person I was from those past impressional points. Narrative is important 😁

[@AdorableOracle]

I know he said that he doesn’t really like them, because he’s such a different person now . And you can tell he’s very different now. I mean the same old funny, handsome FJ but definitely different. Even his tone of voice and facial expressions, he just looks happier, and not as dark if that makes sense. I was scrolling through KZbin one day and three suggest the videos came up. His first video, one of his videos with his beard and is his 1 million subscribers video and I thought I was looking at three different I wish that I would’ve found this channel back then, because I think it would’ve helped especially with the community that was there. But I’m glad to watch them now because they make me laugh, I have cried at a few of them I’ll confess, but it just resonates with old me from back then and how far I’ve come. Timmy, in a MoshPit will always make me laugh. Even thinking about it makes me laugh. And yes Joyce is amazing as well :) I think we have found the positive section of KZbin. :-)

[@ClubENTP]

Happy Father’s Day, FJ

[@RetroXRicardo]

So wonderful to have Frank James on your channel! I can imagine how busy he is being a father and a major KZbinr! It's so nice of him to share the balance of his personal life and professional life. Thanks Frank and Joyce! 👏👏👏

[@Granzteelvids]

that patented INFJ deadpan response to cordial flattery lol but yeah Frank James made it more fun to get into MBTI its amazing

[@AnniePants367]

They have been some sketches , especially lately, where the ENTJ and ESTJ have felt more complex and likable to me. :-) But please never stop roasting Timmy.

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

23:10 you nailed it, Joyce. Being allowed to fully be yourself and have the full range is when you know the other person is a good fit.

[@suechristy363]

You BOTH are two of my favorite MBTI/INFJ KZbinrs 😃 Thank you for doing this interview, Joyce and Frank!!!

[@greenserene2676]

Joyce, once again you blow me with away with how well you speak and are able to articulate abstract concepts.

[@AmyKinso]

But I think what people don’t understand is that people who prefer Te, we actually enjoy choosing efficiency and it’s actually fun, its not a chore, its like wow that feels really good because it’s the thing that made most sense, like yes we’d appreciate someone making us food as a gesture and all but if it’s not what’s most practical in the moment it can feel like…why aren’t you actually helping towards what really needs to be taken care of? Because it would feel 100% better, but I can see how that would be perceived as harsh.

[@StephanieJeanne]

This was a great interview! I've heard of you, but never watched before. Since I am a Frank James subscriber, this came on my feed. You’re very good at explaining the nuances of MBTI and it was so nice to see two very well-educated and well-spoken MBTI KZbinrs talk about the community. I also enjoyed Frank's story of meeting his wife and the family dynamics. I'm very happy for him. Thank you, Joyce. I'm a new subscriber.😊

[@michellearthur978]

Those compliments were all deserved...enjoy every video Mr James

[@lancelotdufrane]

Thanks. Nice opportunity to look behind the curtain of Franks incredible capacities. Appreciate knowing him a bit better. Congratulations on your new Son. Thanks for the interview. INFJ here. Frank has been a source for years. Grateful student.

[@dominicsey3032]

This was a pleasure, well done

[@icecreeamm0000]

thank you so much for this interview!

[@brindygray4410]

Happy Father’s Day FJ!! Love to hear a podcast with our favorite KZbinr!

[@linmonPIE]

Thank you Joyce for so eloquently putting concepts into words that I’ve been struggling to put into words myself. Excellent interview!

[@livingdiystyle]

Settling in with a cup of tea ☕️. So interesting to hear about how the infj vs. entj handle parenting. Great questions, Joyce;)

[@ClubENTP]

What a great interview. I’m hooked on his content.

[@rogerhuggettjr.7675]

I appreciate all both of you do in your unique ways. Along with Love Who and Dear Kristen Frank James has brought a lot of humor to a subject that society underrates. Since both me (INTP) and my fiancée (ISFP) both enjoy your channel, you clearly have widespread support. I can relate to your dating experience. I initially wasn't that attracted to my girl, but she seemed so nice I decided to give it a shot. I think the low tension going in made for a no mask dating experience and I saw practically that we both just made sense. Understanding how ISFPs thought going in I was able to avoid the landmines of dating one's superego type and help her get me. We've had virtually no serious fights in almost 3 years as a result.

[@jessenceq3250]

Much love to you both. Long time subscriber to Joyce and Frank (2017). Truly inspired by you both, and this is coming from a slightly jaded dreamer who is beginning to finally believe in herself. 😉 Thank you for making a difference and being sincere leaders.

[@ClubENTP]

Congrats. Joyce on a great interview.

[@cierahayes]

This was a great interview, Joyce! I really enjoyed hearing the advice that you & Frank shared & also your personal insights regarding typology/personality theory - you communicate information in a very clear & beautifully defined way! Much appreciation! 🙏

[@CJ_536]

As a frank james fan this is intriguing and i enjoy the personal backdrop. As an entp i had to change it to 2x speed to tolerate it. Even so, young people need to hear franks explanation of what makes marriage difficult when compatible. He speaks truth.

[@AdorableOracle]

This popped up in my suggested videos, too :-) I think the interview was wonderful. It was really thoughtful and insightful. I never had the opportunity to watch one of your videos Joyce. Now I have something to binge watch on my commute :-) I think I’ve commented this on Frank’s page before, but I got into typology because of the sketches. And I loved his Talking Head videos he did. A long time ago because I’ve always found him insightful, raw and funny . You are both definitely positive people to watch on the platform! When you were talking about Enneagram fours, a friend of mine also said that there was a big stretch of time where she typed as a four and felt like a four, but she doesn’t even think she is one anymore. I wonder if the wings have something to do with that. I’m a four wing five and I really feel like when I study 5, and really be aware of my weaknesses I don’t feel so much like a stereotypical 4, I become more cognizant of those blind spots and I can work on them :-)

[@kathrinethalund4729]

You look stunning Joyce💛

[@Nerdy-By-Nature]

I know I'm late to the party but S/C/B(P) 🤣 This was such a great interview, Joyce your questions and feedback are always so insightful 💜. I'm also an INFJ married to an ENTJ so I loved hearing Frank's experience and perspective. Co-parenting with someone on the Te/Fi coin can be challenging but it does create good balance. Frank is also so inspiring to me being a Play laster. I'm really trying to learn how to respect my SF Play so I can be of better service to people. Love hearing both of your processes on balancing "people pleasing" feminine Fe messaging with masculine Ti logical and accurate information. So helpful 💜 Thank you both! Don't mind me consuming all the FJ and Joyce interviews I can find now 🤣

[@kayspitzner3229]

A great conversation!

[@claytonia1586]

I'd be really intrigued to see examples of things like INFJs being unsympathetic to see how that goes in the comments. I'm an INFJ myself and I get more annoyed by the sweet innocent snowflake stereotypes as INFJs can be so rational when there actually is an emotional problem. We use feeling all the time but I feel when there's actually a problem I can suddenly flip into my Ti effortlessly which can come across as problem solving and unsympathetic at times.

[@chasna4546]

@Moondust Frank is a Ne-Si user. The Enneagram 4 is probably because of his strong Fi use. It is also obvious from body language. Comparing Joyce here with him, how she is staring in the distance in a fixed point (and generally having a heavy gaze) and her body becomes weighted when she is thinking or focusing on a thought, while he fidgets constantly and has a naïve, playful look in his eyes. Opening his eyes widely when he is thinking about something.

[@grababundoberni]

I am Enneagram 1 and yes, when a negative emotion takes over me or I feel frustrated I can be quite zero cute and zero mercy. Did I run out of compassion, or was that person undeserving of my compassion? I do try Fe response for a start at strike one, but seek Ti solutions to find that out if it reccurs...and generally if I ever need to ask myself that question more than once...it is a mixture of both of the above.

[@dialiann]

This is a great video🥰

[@mysoulcalledlife]

Very interesting interview. Thank you.

[@getreadywithmemamma6973]

So cool to see how Frank evolved through his journey with MBTI/ KZbin to now. Yeah Joyce, Brad is definitely INFJ. It’s weird hearing Frank talk about his early fatherhood experiences, Brad is so this. My Te even in the third slot gets punchy when I’m caregiving since I’ve worked charge nurse and NICU. And Brad has Chaplain background… the reason why I chose Brad INFJ was because I was raised by my ENTJ father. I can handle blunt and I think that’s what the NTJ’s like about me since I can slam it back. But, I was definitely bruised and hurt by that. Brad INFJ has become this alpha through fatherhood and honestly, my father chills around him in a way that I’ve never seen even from my ISFJ mother. INFJs are my favs since over time, in long term situations that’s when you get to see the dominant Fe Ti Se ethics master come in. Brad currently is insanely effective in managing our navigation of long term financial savings and I purposely had him learn from me and then passed the reigns over time as he became more confident with it. Things are different when your parent is an ENTJ. I was expected to handle insane amounts of responsibility early on in life and finding a spouse had bizarrely high standards just in general for me since my half Asian background TE dominated childhood just has me in extreme lockdown mode. These decisions are so extremely important to me, but when I met Brad it was like oh my gosh… he’s the real deal so that took time and he easily intimated me and also kept me calm. Dating was so calm and evolved from the stronger roots of friendship. We’ve been through twenty years of life, colleges, volunteer corps, grad programs, moves, ministry, nursing, marriage and two kids. Brad is the best decision that I’ve ever made. To me the INFJ is the sage of all sages. Watching my ENTJ father who has mastered life on several planes, the man was a crafty genius, be humbled and flat lined by the strength in this personality type and just Brad. You have to be willing to watch it grow though and have patience because there is an Fe Ti door slam that is always a bit there. But the bond is real and extremely deep. You need to bring your real self, your A game and no pretentious nonsense to the INFJ relationship. Best and most intense relationship I’ve ever experienced… it is the fairytale honestly, I feel like I married a Wizard Elf Prince. That’s honestly real❤. So happy to see I see INFJ’s bloom, happens once in a lifetime and is a season to behold.

[@generalshepherd7026]

I can't believe you interviewed the god of MBTI himself

[@AdorableOracle]

I had another random thought for those who see this, I would give $1 million if I could see Franks old dating profile lol . I only used the apps once, I stunk at it horribly. I my significant other while working on a play.

[@Elodie_N_INTJ_Analyzes]

2 of my favorite creators on the same video, thank for sharing this ! like your confidence, and how you explain so clearly (you both) It's magic when 2 Ni meet: the relief to be fully ourselves ^^ When things happen naturally without too much effort it's amazing and a good sign. *Type is just another way to respect neurodiversity and to recognize it* 💙 Thank for this beautiful sentence.

[@Dani-jo9yr]

Hello hello my fellow NF’s👏👌😁 Excellent 🎉

[@sunnycieli]

It takes a lot for an INFJ to say yes and expend their energy to favours or sacrifices we know are really not worth it - But to give you what you somewhat need, ok! Much respect to you FrankJames 💜

[@TreetrunkVneck]

Real pearls of wisdom to emphasize the unified, non-judgmental design of MBTI: (Joyce) “Instead of seeing type as a label, I see it as a filter for incoming data, and a filter for outgoing action.” (Frank) “It’s not that they’re a bad ‘whatever MY type is,’ it’s that they’re being THEIR type.” Magnificent work, y’all!

[@kathrinethalund4729]

I vote for the long nuances videos🤗

[@sherriec5258]

Totally understand what Frank is saying. I can feel the emotions and feelings of people so well...until I'm involved with them deeply or intimately. It's like my feelings and emotions get wrapped up in theirs out something. I don't know....

[@ramzzzyleo6525]

awesome interview ! but plzz add timestamps with questions next time 🙃

[@Heart.headed]

Let's be honest, Frank would be an excellent Superman. PS/edit: I agree with your old skool typing of Frank. ENTP. Otherwise... *GEETAR* (ISFP) 💪🏼🤓

[@kimtopology4257]

Fatherhood really suits him .

[@David9660523]

I've watched FJ's videos for years, and I love his sketches. It's clear to me that he has gained so much from understanding mbti. That being said, I agree with what the Linda Berens school of mbti says about him, that he is an INFP mistyped as an INFJ, like me. That is nowhere clearer than in this video. His style of interacting is so meandering and personal compared to Joyce's (Fi and Si). He is constantly trying to connect patterns through his experiences (Ne/Si). Everything is first person. There are no Ni summaries. He worries about being punctual and efficient (Inferior Te). I could go on. This is no attack on him or his insights, not at all. People are mistyped all the time. Personally, I am happy for him. He has come so far from where he was. He seems so fulfilled now. It is great to see him happy and it gives me hope.

[@cazbee6126]

What do you think about Renaud Contini's type?

[@David9660523]

I've only watched a few of his videos, but he seems to me to be more of what I think of as an INFJ. Direct, almost choppy language, the need to summarise everything, emotive, slightly awkward Fe facial expressions while he talks, not self-referential or autobiographical, etc.

[@cazbee6126]

@@David9660523 oooh, interesting, thanks

[@EC-dj3xb]

If I remember correctly, Joyce is an enneagram 6 and Renaud is an enneagram 5, whist Frank is an enneagram 4. Do you not think being a 4 could make his conversation style more personal than theirs?

[@cazbee6126]

@@EC-dj3xb I suppose what you're asking is, How broad is the presentation of INFJs? I don't know, but maybe if you're presenting as an INFP you are one. (Not really into the enneagram, as it doesn't provide the meat and bone explanation of personality tendencies that mbti does.)

[@sophiagomez5619]

Thanks for being our gateway drug Frank 😊

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

31:15 the archetypes to me are where MBTI goes wrong, as it exaggerates the notion of one-sidedness. I like the discussion you are having of handedness as an alternative to can versus cannot much much more.

[@sudiprizal]

Why is he staring at my soul?

[@AnniePants367]

People have been asking that for six years when you do not know. It has to be the Ni 😊

[@StylizedKitsune]

INFJ stare 😊

[@spacebar9733]

like someone else said, INFJ stare.

[@Julina-yh6qs]

I'm INFP and stare as well :/

[@IndieRockerHippy]

​@@Julina-yh6qs there's a difference in the intensity of the INFJ though. Literally feels like he's boring into your soul. Anyone can stare but not in the same way

[@mnelson1960]

I’m certified in MBTI but I’m here because he’s so cute.

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

FJ spittin facts about parenting being a relationship stress test. Se vs Ne, Ti vs Fi… it can get messy! Kids are 100% worth it, though.

[@kairostimeYT]

I remember there being this one time when someone in your comments section noticed Jamila talking about her news website which highlights the POV of a black person and that dude concluded that ISFPs are prone to aligning themselves to a certain race, taking part in identity politics and yada yada yada, even though nothing about her or that video had anything to do with race and Jamila only mentioned that because you were asking everyone about their social media information.

[@katherinebolwellbyme]

~ 12:40 Coincidence?

[@fyn1985]

You INFJs have so much wisdom to offer when you grace us with your Ni/Ti. So often you deflect attention. As a lead Ti, I am fascinated and a bit triggered by the last 5 minutes of this video. It feels so wrong to compromise on those truth nuggets by wrapping them in Fe. This has come up a lot in my life recently - I am a writer and my instincts for the direction of a story often fly in direct opposition to my beta readers' preferences. I will change a character name or the colour of an outfit, but anything more and I lose interest in the project.

[@serendptyhere5023]

Frank ENTJ and ESTJ are completely differnt types. Also women ENTJ are super rare. So you got your ESTJ. Congrats!

[@mattguess9887]

I actually believe him. An INFP would not suffer an ESTJ for long, but ENTJs provide for the very enticing pedagogue pairing--providing an opportunity for shared growth and admiration. The ENTJ and the INFP would also connect on that intuitive level while the ESTJ and the INFP would just suffer to understand each other's opposing perception preferences. And 2 Si users getting together? Not sexy. Not buying it. No INFP would suffer that pairing for long.

[@Kiseochan]

FJ our favorite gateway drug!

[@dasein9980]

Frank James is an infp.

[@CharleneArian]

✨✨✨❣️

[@orphelunes]

hmmm, if Frank's wife doesn't really have any wants/desires and just goes with whatever he wants, it seems like she'd be an Si-Ne user --> meaning she'd be an ESTJ which is highly compatible with INFJ!

[@meowhahaha]

Agree

[@rachelross4770]

Frank James is actually an INFP. And if his wife’s an ENTJ that would make them a perfect pair

[@tflg3257]

ESTJs are not the type to subject themselves to being at the whim of someone else. I would rank them #1 in skill at controlling their environment. They have both the energy and the know how. Expansive physical energy outwards and the know how that will be accumulated over time.

[@orphelunes]

@@rachelross4770 i have been thinking for a while that he is an INFP also. It's so difficult to have these conversations when so many people have different definitions and examples for the cognitive functions. Idk about his wife tbh, but how would INFP-ENTJ be a perfect pair?

[@jennifermeza5746]

This is so weird to me 😂 see the "real" Frank and not a character

[@cazbee6126]

Meeting someone who you click with isn't fate. That's all I've got for you today.

[@oaao5574]

Heheheh infj stare guys

[@cellgrrl]

I find the situation of your first date with your wife to be interesting. Because you were late, you felt your blew the date and all hope was lost. But I think I can view it from your wife's perspective perhaps; I am INTJ so I don't exactly match your wife, but seriously if you told me you were late due to being unable to find parking, I would simply accept that you couldn't find parking. It would make sense you were late. I would have not read any more or less into it, and that was it. But I think it was a happy circumstance that since you felt you blew it, you had no other pretensions. She fell in love with the real you. Congratulations on your new life!

[@inbetweeny3294]

What’s his type?

[@spacebar9733]

INFJ

[@ma00055]

What's his wife type?

[@RetroXRicardo]

She's an ENTJ

[@TebibicheSalma]

​@@RetroXRicardo How do you know?

[@Yasmina-1979at]

Yeas, comedy is about the ridiculous .. you can’t make funny without pushing the boundaries a little bit

[@aninfphilosophy]

It'd be funny if he turns out to be an INFP 😂

[@onimusha13]

FJ is ENTP but he seems happy I guess, that's important

[@ewaperczak5479]

I bet he's in fact an ENTP

[@stevedavenport1202]

Frank James is a gateway drug? Call the DEA 😂

[@thetimetraveler2232]

cringe

[@inf-jayne]

Joyce, i enjoyed this video and your descriptions, and hearing more about FJ's life. FJ, the skits are fun and yeah you kinda have to jab at the 'weaknesses' of a type, especially when they're in a situation that is opposite from what they thrive in. but i'm also so down to learn what you feel may be missing from the theory and to have more balanced, feel-good content where their strengths are highlighted just as much. going deeper, yaaaay! or whatever floats your boat. 🩵