Frank's Missing Cash, The Lucky 7 Broadcast, and A Mysterious Missing Woman | blameitonjorge

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01:53 Unknown Joanna
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Frank Sinatra’s Son, The Lucky 7 Broadcast, and A Mysterious Missing Woman | blameitonjorge
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Twitter: twitter.com/blameitonjorge Patreon: www.patreon.com/blameitonjorge Other videos you might like: A Tech Giant Disappears: The Unfinished Journey of James Gray kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5u3ZJtsbblrfJo The Most Terrifying Sound Heard Around The World kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYHHY2uco61jmZI Meant to post this last weekend, but I ran into a family emergency. Also I was mentally recovering from Squid Game. Let me know any thoughts on this mini-mystery format and I'll see you next time :D

[@mandude03VideosYT]

Aight, i'll watch these after this video

[@rakiahbaker5589]

Hope to hear something spooky for Halloween. Like scariest movies or TV shows/ episodes. 🎃👻💀💿📺

[@je777y]

First story is freaky 😭 things that i could have reasonably come across as a kid get to me

[@_bit_]

Bussin

[@_bit_]

Pog

[@TriceraTerror]

The Joanna Lopez segment feels like something straight out of an analog horror video lmao

[@invidusspectator3920]

Kind of reminds me of the images and videos shown on the tape from the Ring movies 📼

[@Solinaru]

I have a feeling this was actually a recent analog horror attempt. Things like station sign-offs became really rare in the 80's and everything was 24/7 by the 90's. On top of this, local BBS/newsgroups were up and running for a while by then. Some of the rare pirate station uncidents (Max headroom incident) has recorded history in these newsgroups for example. There's no recorded history of the Lopez story though in what would of been a period of time that many people were awake and some of them had network access

[@Samplehorse]

Very similar to local 52

[@land___shark]

@@Solinaru I was thinking the same thing. Might be worth doing some digging on

[@meepthescorpio6367]

Walten Files, anyone,I dunno,it reminds me of Jack Walten's missing poster, except more terrifying

[@TheCrypticSyx]

The Joanna thing is so offputting and genuinely creepy it feels like an ARG or another horror series

[@katie2275]

Uhhh yes when they played that image with the static it was so creepy

[@cgimichaelmyers2806]

It almost feels like something Adult Swim would do to scare away kids.

[@ReidBlakley]

It’s mid-afternoon right now but I’ll be so freaked out for the rest of the day unless I distract myself, I know it

[@ijustlikebees]

The fact we don't know if she's even real is purely unsettling

[@snipee9655]

I think she was missing at the 60's or 50's by the way the image was showed

[@chettywap1620]

Whoever designed that Joanna Lopez slide back in the 80’s was a menace they knew they were gonna scare the piss out of thousands of people, imagine falling asleep and waking up at like 2 am and seeing that I’d literally run out of my house

[@AsmrByDozy]

i was thinking that, like if i fell asleep with the tv on and woke up to pee, id just pee my bed and cry

[@JuliusCaesar2005]

id waste away right there tbh

[@damienc6130]

Id change the channel and turn all the lights in my house on and maybe cry

[@febethelastone1084]

Fall back asleep

[@joannalopez7894]

Ummmm

[@gluchie]

There’s been a couple of updates to the Joanna Lopez case. - Another missing persons poster was aired on WMAQ for a missing girl named Tricia Kellett a few years prior, proving that Joanna is NOT a hoax or a one time thing. - A moderator in the subreddit dedicated to finding Joanna Lopez contacted a woman by the same name in Chicago. She confirmed that she ran away from home in the late 80s. No further contact has been achieved yet.

[@Angryginger2421]

So it might have been solved? If this person isn't a troll

[@Tirgo69]

Honestly the mystery of who she is/was and what became of her is less interesting to me than the story of why the image aired in the way that it did. I wanna know who in the TV studio did it, I wanna know who asked them to do it, I wanna know why it aired again in 1991.

[@VIIncaunt]

@@Tirgo69 All good questions, but also questions which probably we will never have the answer to. It’s possible it was an accident. But the only way to know is to contact the staff who worked there at the time. Unless there is another way of knowing?

[@thischannelisajoke6810]

@@VIIncaunt Joanna said she ran away, so they most likely thought she went missing

[@dennis65]

When did reddit become a reliable source of info ? Have i missed something?

[@PixelPalettes]

That image is actually really chilling to me, probably the image quality and the lack of detail to it, kinda like when you take a picture of an animal at night and their eyes are just... glowing. That vibe.

[@spongefan155]

I Thought It Looked Like An Alien

[@sterilebroth8933]

@@spongefan155 same lol. Me after realizing the milk I drank was 2 years old.

[@tempesttossed6029]

I know she has huge 80s glasses but they make it look like she's got big alien eyes lol

[@lord_planc]

It's like that glowing eyes meme

[@sandman1576]

your mothrr

[@beattcha3126]

i wont lie, the first entry with the missing woman scared me on a primal level

[@amoureux6502]

The thought of that popping up on screen at midnight after the television signs off... such a low-res image that she looks almost alien... the thought of her not even existing? And no updates or explanation in almost 30 years. I'm left so intrigued but viscerally terrified.

[@tempesttossed6029]

@@amoureux6502 have you seen my pet alien? She escaped from area 51 and responds to the name joanna.

[@aristokriseas6034]

YES! that’s exactly how I felt! It was surreal!

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

That is one of the scariest photos I have ever seen in my life.

[@Ne0nZombie]

For real, and I’m not one to normally get scared. I think the silence definitely upped the scare factor because I feel like your brain is going into overdrive just waiting for something to happen

[@kendrawaters4050]

It's weird, I can normally watch horror movies without batting an eye, but seeing that image of Joanna chilled me to the bone. All I can imagine is watching this broadcast on TV and suddenly that pops up on the screen. The worst part is I'd be too scared to move and change the channel, so I'd just be sitting there terrified, praying it would go away.

[@JaneDoe-po4gu]

it also makes me think of nightmares where u see something scary on tv and physically CANT turn off the tv, you know? ugh this is so frightening

[@CarolinaBlood704]

Reality is stranger and scarier than fiction.

[@KatSuYeah]

this may confuse you, but maybe it's because fiction is not real? 😱

[@snoleopard]

I watched an entire psychological horror last month, having had no prior experience in horror at the time apart from creepypastas and stuff. (emesis blue is a good movie) The second Joanna *fucking* Lopez comes on screen, I get the primal urge to run/curl up and die.

[@_gorillazfreakinc._2]

​​@@KatSuYeah Can you not be a disrespectful piece for once in your life? Your attitude says all I need to know about you.

[@DanAtkinson918]

The marine that rings the bell on the station sign-off was my uncle. My grandparents would make us stay up late to see uncle Rick on the television. Ahh.. simpler times.

[@cursorguy]

Imagine if you guys stayed up that night to see uncle Rick but instead got Joanna Lopez.

[@zakazany1945]

@@cursorguy That would be hilarious

[@partIycIoudy]

Wait srsly? That’s cool

[@TePasasALV]

Screaming R I P RICKY.

[@evangelionfan69]

that’s really interesting

[@ReidBlakley]

I think stark still images on TV accompanied by no music traumatize a lot of people cuz they just seem so serious and impersonal. When I was around 5, I watched a lot of PBS and Teletubbies was a popular show, and there was some live event called “Teletubby play day” that the network was hyping up for what seemed like weeks. One day they just broadcast a still graphic for a few seconds, with no music bed, and a deep male voice-over said “Teletubby Play Day has been cancelled” in a very firm tone. I didn’t expect to go to it and it was the fucking *Teletubbies*, but it was quite frightening the way they did it. I think it changed me.

[@etrs]

This sounds almost like a copypasta to me

[@parkersenkiw9701]

Someone needs to find this

[@ReidBlakley]

@@etrs I assure you I’m a real, oversensitive person

[@ReidBlakley]

@@parkersenkiw9701 it’s a total nothingburger I promise you, I could recreate it from memory with a stock photo of La-La in a half hour in After Effects

[@ReidBlakley]

@@jgs5891 I promise you it would be a total waste of time to look for it, it’s just a graphic and voice over that scared me and it lasted 5 seconds and there’s nothing mysterious about it. I like lost media stories as much as the next guy but there’s bigger fish to fry. But if you must know, it was sometime between April 1998 and August 1999 based on when Teletubbies debuted stateside and when my family moved to a different city. We were in Regina, Canada which gets its PBS feed from Detroit Public Television. I don’t know if it was an event in the Detroit metro area or if was a touring show or what. “Teletubby Play Day” doesn’t even show up on a Google search.

[@kobcritic624]

I've been pretty thoroughly desensitized to creepy stuff i see on KZbin but that missing persons clip made me feel a level of unease I haven't felt in a looong time god damn

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

Me too! This is exactly what I was thinking!

[@sweetjules5425]

exactly what i was thinking…

[@nota_2526]

I’ve watched a lot of pretty disturbing and fucked up films, but that imagine terrified me to my core!

[@rachelmdiamond]

Yes! Creepy videos on YT are a nightly treat for me, but the Lopez broadcast makes me want to turn on every light in my apartment.

[@rubyrogers8879]

Thatsa big mood

[@gonkle3533]

imagine falling asleep while watching tv and waking up to that still image staring at you

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

I'd scream and cry if that happened to me.

[@brianmurphy250]

Or worse….that image is you. Your drivers license photo

[@VirgoMafiaArt]

@@brianmurphy250 Okay Satan

[@BigHH88]

@@MoonshineTheDragThing that's gay

[@BigHH88]

@Mafī ❤ the guy said he'll "scream and cry" if he saw an image on tv

[@daisydaze2886]

HOLY BALLS! The Joanna Lopez mystery is legit the American version of Selena Delgao Lopez. A mysterious missing person, with a bizzare photo, no records anywhere and who just appeared on tv one day as a missing person. This is freaky!

[@lilbill7385]

Is there a video on it?

[@daisydaze2886]

@@lilbill7385 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aafPeWx7otFlfrc

[@lilbill7385]

@@daisydaze2886 thanks

[@karensimp6658]

That’s what I said

[@mrsuns10]

Not to mention sharing the same last name r

[@SirAsdf]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Joanna Lopez thing was just some tech at the channel fucking with people.

[@ChicDead26]

Probably just some tests, actually.

[@FunkSwaggMusiK]

No BS it probably was lets not forget that Trolls existed way before the internet

[@lewisaino]

@Brupcat Test of resistance

[@ohnoitschris]

It's telling that we haven't seen any other missing persons images from that channel, using that same format. Is the banner that says "MISSING" even unique?

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

Time to call the station and ask. If that's the case, then mystery solved.

[@Mello-Naper]

“With spooky season approaching” *Skeleton begins dancing* This is gonna be a good video

[@mariaquiet6211]

Spooky season is every season as far as I care. Y'all are just on my page for a month, yay.

[@aeman7636]

spooky scary skeleton sends shivers down your spine

[@FirexDragonXx]

I hate late night Amber Alerts and broadcast interruptions already, so the Missing Person genuinely terrifies me to the point of my eyes watering.

[@destructoidreaper3]

Staring at the Jane Doe thinking something isn’t right than realizing I’m staring at the photo of a corpse is a weird realization

[@zakazany1945]

It was pretty obvious to me at first, had seen these types of photos before, and the situation she was found already gave away that it was a corpse photo. Anyways, what a poor soul... I wish I could at least find out her name to give her some dignity in a proper tombstone.

[@taxevasion4870]

Wait what

[@brxkenhalo]

i knew she was dead and i somehow didn't realise it was a corpse photo

[@sonicroachdoggjrraven3263]

Oh my god

[@dustbindan3481]

That's not actually a corpse. It's an artist's recreation, as you can see in the caption of the three photos at one point. It's a model made to recreate what she might have looked like in life, so it does look very uncanny.

[@patriciov.catricura3074]

Weird how similar is the Joanna Lopez's legend for Chicago as the legend of "Selene Delgado" in Mexico, which appeared in Televisa Canal 5 around 2001. Some think is a Jane Doe case or even an invention by someone in charge at the Police office or the Channel, as her last name "Delgado" means "Slim", the name of the network owner, Carlos Slim

[@jmrivera_piro]

WAH! I thought of Selene Delgado too! My favorite mexican urban legend. It's really similar isn't it?

[@dontlookatmyplaylists]

Man I was just about to comment the same thing, ngl both pictures are gonna keep me up at night, it’s just so unsettling.

[@jmrivera_piro]

@@dontlookatmyplaylists Hey your playlists are cool

[@lewisaino]

Yeah, maybe every country has a Selene Delgado .

[@am2023]

Very very well said was to say the same you won an award

[@pass_]

jorge's entire life is funded by murder mystery games

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Well it's captivating to say the least. I'm something of a 'Sluth Detective' myself... *The cosmic kind.*

[@the4tierbridge]

He should get a Clue Sponsorship from Hasbro.

[@ohnoitschris]

pretty cool way to earn a living tbh

[@jacosisaba]

That’s missing persons add was the creepiest thing I’ve ever seen. That image is haunting and the fact it was on screen for hours with no noise is horrifying

[@ivy7510]

The case of Joanna López reminds me a LOT of Selene Delgado López, even her surname is the same, she was a girl who got lost and they put her photo on TV in the local community service, and just like in this case, people think she never existed. You should look into it. It's really interesting.

[@mrsuns10]

Now that is a bizarre coincidence

[@bowiebee1104]

that makes me think that its fake even more, like either a prank or an example slide

[@roguedalek900]

@@bowiebee1104 I doubt it was a prank. FCC specially in that era is famous for not having a sense of humor. A station could risk loosing its broadcast license. I did hear of a TV station once after hours accidentally airing an "adult " VHS tape (Interns were watching it after hours and accidentally broadcast it) the station manager only heard about it when people called wanting to see it again. FCC hit the ceiling.

[@evil1by1]

​@@roguedalek900they arent known for having a sense of humor now. Look how they acted over the Janet Jackson nip slip. Absurd to get that worked up over a nipple. Oh but the children...ugh should I tell them or do you want to, that many babies are exposed to nipples daily for years.

[@midimusicforever]

Imagine how easy it is to troll people as an transmission operator at a TV station. :)

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Makeshift Max Headroom will remember that... *Where ever he is...*

[@lewisaino]

You can say that it was part of your role lol

[@aliceemory5913]

Hmmm sus 👀👀👀 are you that guy?

[@chevu_2]

yeah, it must be the easiest way to get fired.

[@welpppppppppppppp]

i bet that missing person’s case has a boring explanation- it just seems like a test for a system that was left on or triggered on accident… for it to be such a low quality image without a real name seems like they were trying to purposefully leave out details. i know some news networks for instance have canned obits for celebrities on hand in case someone croaks

[@roobee1234]

I agree, smart explanation

[@moonstone5549]

i had the exact same thought! seems pretty likely

[@bluegum6438]

Agreed, there was probably a tape labelled "STATION SIGN OFF TEST" that was accidentally aired a couple of times and the picture is of someone's mom or wife, it's a mock-up

[@SeanSMST]

Regardless of the reason, seeing a non descript face on screen with no sound, no warning, no voice, breaking news, nothing, is absolutely haunting.

[@raind0ll]

exactly what i was thinking!!

[@enimo9241]

I really want to hear the perspective of someone who actually witnessed the Joanna incident live. It probably would have traumatised them for life

[@LSTORMTheMC]

I can imagine some turning they're TVs off. Few hours later turns TV back on then BOOM picture still there and they're like "What why is this still on??!"

[@ZemmyChess]

i saw someone comment about that, he is a dad now, but he was 19 at that time,who was alone in a cabin, with a surrounding forest. he was just chilling watching in his bed, but when he saw the joanna lopez pic on a stactic tv, he was traumatized, and couldnt sleep that night, whats even scarier is that he lives in a surrounding forest

[@SG-jc1pe]

@@ZemmyChess nah man I'd never sleep alone

[@Xxmagic.city777xX]

LLove your 2D pfp

[@rprince418]

Maybe I'm weird, but I think there is something surprisingly sweet about Sinatra being buried with dimes in his pocket. Like it's a nice final nod to an old friend.

[@PrimeStone]

I Find The Photo to be absolutely terrifying, that is something I wouldn't want to see on my TV during the middle of the night on a weekend. Those white eyes stare into your soul.

[@jasonthecritic7086]

I think shes wearing glasses

[@ohnoitschris]

Surely they could have done a better job scanning it at the time, it's not like contrast dials were unheard of

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

@@jasonthecritic7086 Yup, big glasses.

[@xokatelyn]

Yes made me superrrr uneasy 😟

[@mrsuns10]

Selene Delgado vibes

[@KingOfInsanity777]

Blameitonjorge in October not only feels appropriate, but just right for the chills.

[@jazminsmith6343]

no, thats the other guy.

[@KingOfInsanity777]

@@jazminsmith6343 >Chills Lol, I forgot about him. He's cool too.

[@mischiefmaker240]

@@KingOfInsanity777 I miss ScareTheater as well 😔

[@juno1752]

The fact that Johanna Lopez’s name is literally a feminine form of ‘John’ and a very common Spanish surname makes me think that she isn’t real, and is simply an amalgamated placeholder for the missing persons system. With the low quality image and the phone number going straight to the police, I think someone at the station accidentally triggered the placeholder to go up overnight.

[@enimo9241]

That's what I think too. The image they chose is very disturbing though

[@spate7207]

But then why not just use jane doe?

[@juno1752]

@@spate7207 I assume because someone was tasked with writing a placeholder and just didn’t think to use Jane Doe. Maybe they wanted one that was less obviously fake. What I would be interested in knowing is if the station used similar missing persons bumpers like Johanna’s or if the style guide changed over the years

[@spate7207]

@@juno1752 Perhaps although what confuses me would be why they'd want it to feel less fake? I just don't understand why they'd try to make it seem real in the first place if it is just a placeholder because then, as seen, there is confusion /:

[@funnycomedymaster]

@@juno1752 according to another comment there may have been bumpers like that but with different people but so far there’s no record of them

[@simonmacomber7466]

600,000 people go missing every year. 596,000 are located fairly quickly, most alive and well, some are found injured or dead. ONLY about 4,000 missing persons *remain* missing each year. And, yes, a missing persons' poster *can* and *does* appear on TV by accident all the time. The image and text looks like just like a placeholder graphic that was in use in the late 1980s when I worked at a local TV network. I wasn't in the Chicago area, but the image is *identical* the only difference is the phone number to call. It was replaced with a phone number of the police department in my area. The name on the image was also different. At the station I worked at the name used was "Joanna Dean." Joanna Dean was the house name used for unknown women, Jonathan Dean for unknown men. Jane and John Doe was reserved for news stories with unknown people found by police, so we couldn't use that name. I really think that someone at head end switched to the placeholder graphic accidentally and it wasn't caught through the whole night the first time. Someone did catch it the second time and pulled it after ten seconds.

[@Djcreepermc26]

i hate to be that guy, but do u actually have any proof of this?? because i’d love to believe this but it just seems like all talk

[@tigy516]

Source? Simon Macomber: i made it up.

[@A-little-bookworm]

The photo of Joanna might haunt me for a while P.S. I really really like this format!!

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

It looks very... Alien... maybe it's the void looking eyes.

[@KILOPOWER]

Yeah, it jumpscared me, bruh

[@ughcreature]

me too, idk why it scares me tho, it's literally just an image

[@tempesttossed6029]

@@ughcreature uncanny valey. You know its human but cannot see her eyes. Eyes are what connect us.

[@amoureux6502]

I think she's wearing cat eye sunglasses and the white is a reflection rather than her actual eyes - still really haunting since it's not at all clear from the photo

[@debutyves]

it’s always a wonderful day when blameitonjorge posts

[@Kuino]

agreed

[@sourgreendolly7685]

absolutely!

[@josesagastumesagas1860]

It really is.

[@aneurysm1991]

True

[@polkarfield]

More like dreadful, these videos give me chills. Still watch them though

[@AlbatrossThePenChewer]

Ever since Local 58, hearing The Star-Spangled Banner always puts me on edge

[@lilliths-httyd-channel]

honestly same

[@MasqueradeRose]

Almost made me puke in this context tbh, jesus

[@User71956]

Oh if you really wanna be creeped out, they use to put subliminal messages within the National Anthem sign off. Stuff like "obey" and anti communist stuff. Just KZbin national anthem subliminal messages.

[@Paya-hx6eu]

@@User71956 there’s (i think a scare theatre) video disproving this

[@KA-ys5ps]

Same!

[@CaJoel]

The fact that we’re all so terrified by the first entry is making me wonder if horror really isn’t that subjective

[@mellowapocalypse]

Thinking about this first story and how if this came on your screen late at night and you just happened to leave it on for too long, this image could be burned into your TV screen. You would see it every time the screen was blank.

[@kodakasaur9518]

why would you say something like that

[@chitindrip]

o_o

[@spate7207]

I was doing perfectly fine until you brought that idea up

[@flowerpower003]

@@blackbearcj5819 Not in 89 you wouldn’t I think I remember my mum telling me how bad afterburn images were

[@TheLaughingVampire]

@@blackbearcj5819 Not exactly. I have an older flat screen and if I pause a video for longer than a few minutes it'll leave an after image. Thankfully it goes away after resuming the video for several minutes.

[@morganlak4337]

I wonder if the Joanna Lopez title card that was broadcasted could be like an example graphic used for like training or testing purposes at the network. The two times it was broadcasted could have been some kind of mistake where they accidentally left the graphic on, that might explain why the second time it cut off abruptly, they realized they made the same mistake twice. This could explain why the graphic is missing so much info, and why Joanna Lopez is a name that doesn't match up with anyone, whoever made the dummy graphic just made the name up on the spot.

[@aetherland1883]

They wanted to test the RTX graphic card lol

[@404.filenotfound]

I think that could be true but if that was the case wouldn't they have had something like John doe or something like that with a clear as day image of a man with example or test on it somewhere instead of a very unseeable image of a woman

[@duongpham9023]

Makes sense. But I wonder if that were the case, why wouldn’t they put out a statement or something? Or why someone who either worked directly or knew someone from the network that is familiar with the practice never say something? I mean it was broadly shared across social media and all.

[@bdalbor]

That's what I was thinking. Like this was something for new writers at the station to come up with a description for a missing person that doesn't exist. But at the same time, I saw a comment on the Fuzzy Memories upload of that slide that said that this happened multiple times across this time span (not just in '89 and '91). The crazier part about that comment was that they sometimes showed a different person and a tone would play over it (like how the color bar system worked). Nothing about this mystery makes any sense. Until there is more footage of these WMAQ sign-off enigmas, or if someone that worked there during that time frame comes out and explains everything, then we're nowhere closer to the end of the mystery than we were at the beginning...

[@morganlak4337]

@@duongpham9023 there's a chance tbh that they weren't caught by higher ups? Idk about tv stations but it might just not have had real consequences at the time

[@Luigiawesome13]

That missing person's broadcast was genuinely one of the most terrifying things I've seen in a long time.

[@hats]

WAIT…

[@re-huvane5622]

I usually don’t get scared by stuff in horror related stuff, but once in a while I see something that does something to me. The picture of Joanna is one of the things.

[@ruminatingreptilian5907]

I've honestly enjoyed the transition to true crime and these mini-documentaries.

[@BeatRiceIsHere]

True crime is honestly a perfect fit for the channel imo

[@sneedling]

@@BeatRiceIsHere that and lost media

[@the4tierbridge]

I miss the lost media stuff.

[@ruminatingreptilian5907]

@@the4tierbridge Not gonna lie I do as well, that and especially stuff like Creepy Videos on the Internet.

[@Fomortiis100]

Eh, true crime channels are a dime a dozen while lost media is a more niche appeal. Though he's covered so many lost media cases by now that the well is close to running day anyway, so I get why he started investing in something different.

[@80s-ghost]

Joanna Lopez reminds me of the Selene Delgado mystery and coincidentally they are both broadcasted in a channel with the number 5. And the fact that both could probably not even be a real person.

[@MayorofMoralton]

I was thinking the same thing, what a strange coincidence.

[@joiluna]

ohhh. i forgot about that !! If they arent real people, it makes me wonder why they do that in the first place? :/ weird.

[@Alekrannn333]

Been looking for this comment lol the Selene Delgado case is very eerie

[@mrsuns10]

Maybe every country had a Lopez Delgado

[@almondwaet7966]

the bald selene that is used on uncanny mr incredible memes?

[@ninagarcia7180]

Looking at the next time "Joanna" appeared again she seems to be wearing some big sunglasses on her eyes even if you have a photo editing tool that can lighten or sharpen up the image. Very odd choice whoever got the image up would just have an image showing her eyes and facial features, but all obscured and hard to tell with the sunglasses on her eyes and the low-quality image. Ngl I would be unsettled if an image like that appeared late at night staring and staying like that till the news came back on in the morning. Thank goodness we have at least late-night programming, early morning news, and reruns of shows and news from earlier in the day.

[@wardrich]

Yeah, I think she's wearing large-framed eye glasses

[@ninagarcia7180]

@@wardrich Admittingly it does ease the creepiness on the photo knowing that information, but still just an odd choice to choose as a photo for a missing person whose eyes are obscured by the large glasses which doesn't give the information what they look like fully or maybe eye color if it wasn't black and white.

[@ScorbunnySneaselEnjoyer]

The other two were nothing compared to Joanna Lopez. Something about that one just gave me chills. Everything about it combined makes it so creepy, the eerie image, the lack of information, the silence, and how long it stayed

[@Account_Not_Applicable]

Nothing like a static low-res black and white photo of an unknown woman with no sound or music to give me the heebie jeebies for the rest of the evening. I really dig this video format by the way. This and the two lost media files videos are great for these smaller stories which are really fascinating but have limited information on them

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

That photo has been bothering me for about 8 hours now.

[@enimo9241]

@@MoonshineTheDragThing Same

[@lorddrayvon1426]

When I first saw this video, I was sitting in the dark home alone at 2AM. Boy was that a mistake. I felt like, if I left my room, that fucking face would be face to face with me outside my door.

[@williamhild1793]

Hi, Jorge. I vote "yes" for more videos of this type...shorter mysteries presented 3 or 4 at a time to make one longer video. I really enjoyed this video.

[@naskivik]

i vote yes as well

[@Ghostly1989]

@@naskivik me too

[@swarler]

its a yes from me too

[@itsjeremysalt9715]

I’m one of those people that scare easy but I still always find myself drawn to these types of videos, I think it’s just the way people like Jorge, Nexpo and Reignbot stylise it

[@AxleMyths]

Lol i have to remind myself... "Its only scary because of the music..." Lol

[@pichu222]

I had to stop eating my lunch when the photo of that missing woman came up, my eyes started to water... idk, it was so uncanny. it's insane how people can just disappear on this earth and never be seen again. stay safe everybody.

[@kristin332]

:(

[@pichu222]

@David Morrison ok

[@_kia65]

did you continue eating your lunch after?

[@BeatRiceIsHere]

I've always wondered what it would be like if you were one of the missing people in these videos and you happened to stumble across it on a whim, like how would that feel

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

I would want to speak up, but most people would think Im a troll lol

[@xxprizefighterxx]

The Face on the Milk Carton by Caroline B Cooney. Also called the Janie Johnson Series.

[@b.m.933]

Probably terrifying

[@c.j.4180]

Look up the music video to 'Runaway Train' by Soul Asylum and the stories about it. Happened to a few kids thanks to that video.

[@DWEEBERBUG]

@@c.j.4180 I knew that damn song was cursed

[@kirstendenney6129]

I’m so happy Jorge is posting more frequently now. He’s one of my favorites and it’s always a joy to see him post a video.

[@b.m.933]

Exactly. Also I don't know of any other KZbinrs who upload content about mysteries like he does.

[@TheTicassShow]

@@b.m.933 Lemmino, Cadaber, shrouded hand, red herring, Atrocity Guide, reignbot, scare theater, night mind, all things lost, fascinating horror. All great channels ;-)

[@b.m.933]

@@TheTicassShow Thanks!

[@catmcflooffloof4832]

@@TheTicassShow man, imagine a collab with those people

[@TheTicassShow]

@@catmcflooffloof4832 that would be legendary

[@sereously]

My theory on the Joanna Lopez thing is that she was a runaway who's family never followed up with a proper police report. That explains why there's no official report or missing persons file. Sad.

[@corruptlogic8479]

It's real life stories and events that get me scared. Not horror movies or even scary games. This is what scares me...reality

[@ocean8343]

that’s how it should be, while horror movies/games and ARGs are all unsettling nothing is more terrifying than the real world mysteries

[@MellyVuong]

Just what I need while on a drawing spree tysm Jorge

[@a_literalrat1096]

Melly ❤️

[@222two]

hiii melly 🌹

[@ShewasIwas-biden]

These acronyms are getting ridiculous. Well, I guess this a tik tok type world now🤦‍♂️🤣

[@dyinginside821]

@@ShewasIwas-biden it means thank you so much and my grandmother had texted it to me before so it definitely isn’t a tiktok thing lol

[@emenefer]

@@dyinginside821 srsly

[@DBEO23]

Honestly, I think the reason Frank Sinatra didn’t have his “Boys” “break their legs” was prob because he maybe wanted them to live in fear for the rest of their lives. This was a man who in his late 70s told Mia Farrow that, if she wanted him to, could’ve have Woody Allen Murdered. He def had pull to have someone wind up in the bottom of a lake with cement shoes If I messed with Frank Sinatra, you know I’d be looking over my shoulder for the rest of my life That or the dude maybe was just grateful to have his son back and all and didn’t want to focus on revenge Idk

[@tanner201x8]

I feel scared for Woody Allen

[@c.j.4180]

@@tanner201x8 You shouldn't lol, Woody Allen is trash.

[@Ashannon888]

Also, it would have been way to obvious and Frank Sr would have been suspect #1. He probably didn't wanna deal with potential legal issues in his old age

[@lewisaino]

@@Ashannon888 Yeah, pretty much he was the main culprit .

[@jonnyleeconway]

@RandomName it wasn’t fake, listen to the podcast “The Grand Scheme: Snatching Sinatra” it is an interview with Barry about the abduction and it’s really great

[@Pineapple_Coffee]

Jorge: and some of the money was never recovered… Me, no hesitation: did they just spend it really really fast

[@MandyMeowington5]

Considering that one of the kidnappers was a pill-popper, it’s entirely likely. Drugs aren’t cheap

[@nefwaenre]

The 1st one was horrifying. Can't even fathom how her family must've felt. So, so many people go missing daily, or justice is not given to their killers or just shipped alive. And if one thinks about it for a while, it can make somebody go insane. Probably that's somewhat the family feels? i wish peace upon them, their family and all the victims around the world.

[@vinechetti]

The Joanna Lopez's photo is so uncanny and off-putting, that it absolutely caught me off guard

[@ladygrinningstardust]

Re: Sinatra's son: I would believe that the police were just incompetent before they were accomplices

[@thorntails]

Great video! Especially the Joanna segment. A video cutting to a still image with no audio is so much scarier than any jumpscare, to me, at least; It's just- dead silent. Nothing. Nothing _meant_ to make you jump. Nothing to accompany the video. And the fact that it stayed like that for _hours_ the first time? I would've shut it off after a couple seconds.

[@cursorguy]

I think it’s creepy because our brain expects there to be a jumpscare. So the fact that we’re just _waiting_ for a jump scare scares us.

[@AdachiCabbage]

Back in the 80s and 90s, it was pretty common for shows to randomly have the bar graph or cut off when a program ended or random stuff show up. I remember staying up as a kid and would randomly see people selling products and it just cuts off to the bar graph and noise before going black. I assume that Lopez was a missing person and someone or someone at the station knew she was missing and wanted to help out but resources/money/etc. ran out since a lot of missing people families don't have a lot of resources/etc.

[@GreysPrincess]

The Joanna Lopez thing reminds me of a guy I knew when I was working at a bank. He would come in once a month or so to do his banking and get a few copies of a beaten up DIY missing person poster. This thing was a copy of a copy of a copy and the photo on it was impossible to decipher, with the name and phone number not much better. I guess he’d been doing it for years and I think he said at one point that the police didn’t consider the guy missing anymore (something like they’d gotten in contact with him and he didn’t want to be found, maybe?); it was all just really sad. It kind of makes me wonder if Joanna could have been something a little similar, like maybe she wasn’t officially considered missing but one person was still trying to find her, and only had the one photo to go on? Definitely doesn’t explain the timing of the broadcasts though.

[@Joskilani]

That's a pretty interesting theory on the Joanna broadcast, but also pretty sad... that sounds heartbreaking

[@the4tierbridge]

@@Joskilani What does?

[@Joskilani]

@@the4tierbridge one person desperately trying to find someone else to no avail

[@the4tierbridge]

@@Joskilani But the person was already found.

[@ianschwartz08]

yeah.

[@RisingRevengeance]

The Lucky 7 thing definitely sounds like a student thing. I did the same thing in the early streaming days though it was obviously not as unique anymore.

[@buddygettingnutty8351]

The gas mask with a noose gave it away, it's definitely some student.

[@mybloodythanksgiving3040]

I thought about what if you left that missing persons image on all night and when you changed the channel the image was burned into the tv for a while like a lot of flatscreens do, that would just add to the creepiness

[@feelfreetoscreenshot1733]

Damn that’s scary

[@DavidFromOuterSpace]

lol. looks like a "stock footage" tape to me. something you would get/prepare for your low budged tv station containing you station's logo animation, the national anthem, a missing person place holder and a test signal. looks like the tape is just running out till its end after the logo while the director/editor has already left the control room at the end of their shift.

[@Sfernandez99]

The Joana part reminds me of the Selene Delgado case in Mexico, missing person that no one knew anything about

[@n.9718]

just got out of class and you best believe I’m about to sit on the side of the hall and watch this while eating chips.

[@mrwrigh]

Mood lmfao

[@diskdem0n]

chad moment

[@lilx3089]

The Joanna Lopez one is too scary man its just too scary just hy looking at the image is just pure scary im 100% sure that im traumatized for life if i saw that as a kid man

[@snowrinaride4287]

Sadly, a case like Johanna is extremely common in the Chicago area, usually left in an ally naked usually means she was assaulted by a gang. Though they usually dispose of the body in the sewers or in Lake Michigan so either it was sloppy or the person for people who did it knew that she couldn’t be identified.

[@Blalack77]

I remember when those colored bars used to be on the TV overnight. That's a pretty early memory for me but that would have been the late 80s or early 90s. Just one of those weird, fuzzy, super-early memories. That sort of memory is really weird. When did they start just showing stuff all night? Because it seems like when they did start having programming all night, it was just infomercials until like 5 or 6 AM. Which reminds me - that might be why I would see the bars - trying to wake up super early to watch Bozo or something when I was probably 3-5ish.

[@Solinaru]

Yeah, this is where I keep having hangups on the first story. Around the states, some TV stations would have sign-offs still in the 80's but many of them already transitioned to a automated system to keep their station running 24/7. For example, Fox5 in NY would show their 10pm news @ 2am as a rerun as they were one of the few channels that didn't have late-night comedians like David Letterman or Johnny Carson. Channel 11 (pre-Warner buyout in the mid '90s) would play movies after 11pm and then infomercials. If you were a TV station and a large city like Chicago, you would most likely have something to play after hours since there's still a very sizable audience for advertisement. You wouldn't have any of the best shows on, but you would have some shows that would only show up after 11:00 p.m. or so as they wouldn't have the same commercial appeal at any other time. To have what would be a mainstream station sign off to black or nothingness at this point would have lost the station money and would have actually showed up in the news the next day as a station malfunction.

[@Clo_Dub]

In this age of 24 hour news coverage, the thought of something coming on *after the news has finished* is so odd. I can’t believe I was even born at a time (‘95) when you couldn’t just turn the channel over to the news whenever you want or access it immediately online 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Lowmanification]

It was a better time.

[@misakiumeki1620]

Think its from the time when all the channels stopped showing content after a certain hour, where they would sign off with the national anthem and then they would resume broadcasting in the morning.

[@Clo_Dub]

@@misakiumeki1620 I’m not sure if we had that in the U.K. 😂

[@TimmyTickle]

@@Clo_Dub They did... BBC1 played God Save The Queen at the end of the night for years (they started broadcasting 24/7 in 1997)

[@annieapple8974]

The fact that the first image of Joanna stayed on screen for 7 hours in the silence is so creepy.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Facts I break my tv for that

[@miamaru414]

The Joanna Lopez picture is a lot less scary when you consider thats she's wearing big sunglasses. the white near the eyes is the light reflecting.

[@InfestedLice]

That part freaked me out the most and no one is talking about it 😭

[@Anon_1003]

The Father's Day Bank Massacre would be an interesting case to cover.

[@lilacswimmer]

the Joanna Lopez mystery has fascinated me for so long, amazing to see it covered here!

[@ArekusaSan]

Generally, not a lot of things related to mystery or horror that KZbinrs cover haunt me. That image of Joanna, on the other hand, made my blood run cold. Perhaps it was a fragment of some test or section that accidentally was played. Perhaps it was a prank from the station. Perhaps it’s a poor attempt to signal for an actual missing person who was never identified. Whatever it is, it’s haunting. It’s crazy how a still image and the sound of buzzing static could cause intense fear.

[@thawg5500]

Right? Same thing with the errates dude or whatever

[@CRT_YT]

it's 1in the fucking morning for me

[@tonys6620]

I like how we found the Joanna Lopez pic scary now, but back then people in the 70's had to see this for hours and were probably like "OH THIS FUCKING LADY AGAIN"

[@lupuslapas6568]

Loving these smaller mysteries that are informative but vague enough so that people will want to research on their own. Definitely would love to see more radio/televised mysteries since theyre so localized that you also get a bit of geographical history along with it and put a small town/village/city on the map.

[@tempesttossed6029]

F'real that sign off stuff seems super fake until i remember that some old towns just were that patriotic and cheesy back in the day

[@TimmyTickle]

@@tempesttossed6029 A lot of smaller towns in the red states still are to this day

[@cryptox826]

Love seeing Jorge selling his soul to Hunt A Killer yet again 🙏

[@troumer]

One other possibility on the Joanna Lopez case: It may have been someone doing research for a grad degree in some area of criminology (Psychology, Statistics, Social Work, etc). At that time, research was definitely happening on forensic drawings with exaggerated features to get more leads. (IOW--Remember those unrealistic, kinda creepy drawings where the teeth or chin or whatever would be way out of proportion? There was "research evidence" claiming that those kinds of images got more attention and were better at jogging people's memories than more realistic sketches.) Maybe a similar project was being done with forensic photos? NEVER, EVER, underestimate the goofy weirdness of a grad student in need of data and/or a thesis topic. Someone may have been working part time or interning at the office attached to that phone number while also finishing a degree.

[@yoshiyajoshuakiryu3198]

I really love this idea!

[@iainronald4217]

As callous as it might sound, this Joanna Lopez case kind of sounds like testing protocol; I was a CompSci major when I first started University, whenever we were testing a program we'd written ourselves or an OS we were unfamiliar with, to get familiar with it we'd ask the program to do one thing: Write the phrase "Hello World!" in white text on a black background. When running system checks, radio stations do this as well. They'll play high pitched, eerie sounds in order to recalibrate their system before the next broadcast day. Something about them using such an overexposed image, leaving no information, it sounds like a test; I don't know if Joanna Lopez was a joke inside the office or with the broadcast engineers, but that's what it feels like, especially using it multiple times and leaving it on for hours on end. The overexposure makes sense too, likely, the photo is a collage of different features cut out from magazines and yearbooks just so they could have a photo to use for their test graphic and in order to make it not look fake, expose the crap out of it.

[@morgue.dweller]

wow um. I thought you were going to talk about Selene DelGato. Joanna's missing photo is somehow even more distressing

[@cursorguy]

Probably because Selene’s photo looks more like a police sketch while Joanna’s looks more real and uncanny.

[@arusaurzyt5456]

I honestly really LOVE the idea of bunching together multiple smaller mysteries into 1 video! You should do more of these! 😁

[@hatchetrave]

I'm sticking with the theory that Joanna Lopez was a test slide that was left on all night by accident. That would explain why there's so little information about her. The person in the photo probably isn't even named "Joanna Lopez." I feel this would also explain why the second occurrence was replaced with SMPTE bars, perhaps someone at the station caught the error and pulled it off the air. Just a theory though, it's still an unnerving photo to be staring you down at 3am.

[@ricochet0928]

I love the "They stopped the kidnappers to quiz them." at 16:11 Like i can just imagine- *Kidnapper, getting pulled over:* yes officer? *Cop:* what is the capital of arkansas?

[@matthiasrobins9669]

for some reason, im... really not satisfied with the arg/mistake/troll angle of the Joanna Lopez case. Occams razor and all, but theres just. something off about it. 1) if it was to scare people staying up late, why did it only happen twice? years apart? also why was one all night and the other 2 seconds 2) from the evidence gathered and what i understand, the joanna lopez case or even anything else to do with the broadcast have never been followed up on, killing any idea for arg. it was on at the end of broadcast on a local chicago tv station, i dont think thats an ideal place or time to play games with people. 2) ive seen someone say it could have been a mistake or some kinda testing card accidentally turned on. okay, so: why would they use a missing persons poster? why have the number to the chicago police youth division? usually these things have some sort of text or announcement that it was a mistake or a test. none of that happened. theres something off about the photo apart from the obvious. something tells me the answer lies in the origin of the photo.

[@aetherland1883]

Dude it was some troll who wanted to jumpscare people for the lulz

[@boxman139]

What if It’s the person behind lucky 7? Carl Sagan was right: everything is connected!

[@MoonshineTheDragThing]

I have a similar theory about getting answers from the photo. My theory is that if someone who knew Joanna personally has a copy of that photo and decides to share it, their copy would most likely be higher quality and we can finally do more research to try to find out what happened to her.

[@villvvinter9182]

@@meuliaisacoolgirl it would be easiest for a person working at the station to pull it off, but it could be done remotely by anyone with broadcasting equipment by setting the signal they are broadcasting to be the range that that tv station uses. Its illegal, but TV signal highjacking was much more common before satellite tv became common, and possibly even more so before they started cracking down on it after the max headroom incident(which also occurred in Chicago!). The fact that it supposedly stayed onscreen for and this is the first I've heard of it is almost suspicious, but it's very possible that noone reported it bc 1. it only interrupts the sign off which many folks may have turned off anyway and 2.it looked like a legitimate emergency alert for a missing person to those who saw it at the time

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

@@villvvinter9182 So, Ms. Lopez is possibly like the Max Headroom Incident. Same city and roughly the same time period. Maybe they are connected.

[@deferencetodusk]

The Lopez thing couldve been a signal hijack like Max Headroom, but still that doesn't help explain much

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

And both were in Chicago. If it is a hijack, maybe they're connected.

[@mrsuns10]

@@SpukiTheLoveKitten75 this is an angle that should be brought up more

[@itsasquid]

The Joanna Lopez case heavily reminds me of the Selene Delgado incident in Mexico. Very similar concept.

[@92jaxs]

My heart literally goes out to Joanna Lopez and many others in the same similar situation. Imagine being a missing person for literally years and no one coming forward or even trying

[@upyoursdotcom]

It LITERALLY goes out you guys

[@bazookagrunt5293]

I’m so glad to finally see someone talk about the Lucky 7 Broadcast

[@onijester56]

It was like nearly 15 years before my time. However, having gone to Le Moyne and been part of the Student Broadcasting Club, I know some of my college friends at both SU and Le Moyne would absolutely have done something like that. So I'm interested in finding out more of Lucky 7.

[@hubbsguy_8048]

it’s a good day when jorge posts

[@SpukiTheLoveKitten75]

What's truly frustrating about cases like Joanna Lopez, the Max Headroom incident, the Most Mysterious Song on the Internet, etc. is that you'd assume they would be somewhat easily solvable. People tend to leave a life-long paper trail and there are records for everything, and surely stuff like the Max Headroom mess would be traceable. Even the most obscure stuff leaves records. - They easily solved other signal-hacking incidents, like the "Capt. Midnight" cable guy who was angry with HBO. If cops could find him, then "Max Headroom" would have been easy... but the latter is a mystery to this day! If Joanna was a joke or a placeholder thing, someone at the station would've said something. If Joanna was a hacking incident, then they should've traced it. If she's a real missing person, there should be records or family... but there isn't. - All these John / Jane Doe cases where they reconstruct the deceased then broadcast it in the media... yet not one family member, friend or acquaintance shows up. I just don't get it! Someone must know something or knows these people, yet they say nothing. - Surely somebody knows SOMETHING... and yet... there is nothing!

[@adz3331]

That Joanna still image has got to be the most unsettling thing I’ve ever seen in my life. No sound, no info on the missing person, just her staring at you for hours. Truly nightmare fuel

[@TimmyTickle]

And you made it your profile pic?

[@horriblecaseofwateryliquid4877]

how can you make that your pfp? weirdo

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

Why does the Jane Doe look more unsettling than Joanna's photo? Is that a recreation of what she looked like? It's uncanny valley to the max and it freaks me out.....

[@Inignot12]

I think that is actually a photo of the Jane Doe my friend, sorry for the nightmares, I'll be having them too now

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

@@Inignot12 Man, if that is actually her...I don't know what to say. She just doesn't look real, ya know?

[@dontlookatmyplaylists]

Yeah same, just staring at the photo makes me feel queasy and unsettled. But then again, like you said, it might be a recreation and those are very creepy to look at.

[@Amberrogers]

It's definitely a recreation. The skin appears too plasticy

[@manicmonochrome7098]

Often they use the actual photo of the deceased person and use image editing to add open eyes. It's unsettling but probably the most accurate way to show what a person may have looked like in life. I have spent hours on the Doe network but it still disturbs me.

[@froggysandwich1373]

Something about the National anthem playing on air over radio or TV is slightly eerie like if an emergency broadcast about the end of the world would play next

[@kellie5476]

I gave up weed recently and have been having the most weird vivid dreams...that image of Joanna is gonna be haunting me tonight.

[@000Brianna]

that picture combined with the silence, and the fact that it lasted for hours, is sooooo unsettling

[@wolfwriterRodger]

Jorge: All pretty normal, right? Me: no Jorge: Well, not really Me: girl that's what I said

[@melancrolypoly]

Off topic but damn Jorge's voice is so nice to listen to idk how to explain it but its just so smooth and satisfying (??) Lol

[@jojomania9601]

imagine you're a little kid, you snuck out of your room to watch tv when you weren't supposed too, then while you're watching a glitch happens and a picture of a missing person pops up. you feel a little spooked but decide to just wait a few seconds for the image to disappear and go back to the show you were watching, but it doesn't go back. you wait for hours and the image still sits on your screen, staring into you, you feel guilt wash over you, its almost as if its a warning. you knew it was wrong to get up in the middle of the night, but you wanted to watch the shows that stayed on late, but instead you were met with the sight of another person who hadn't quite thought things threw.

[@Tape_Time]

God seeing that missing photo pop up gave me chills I haven’t felt in a long while. I just love it.

[@TWICEfan3125]

It's like a throwback to the older Unsolved Mysteries format with Robert Stack. Keep 'em coming, Jorge.

[@sunolili862]

This Joanne case is so similar to the Selene Delgado case i feel like the answers to both could be the same as well

[@N0ztalji4]

God, the Unknown Johanna missing poster gives me chills. It feels so surreal. The fact that she was not found in 30+ years, the thought of her not even existing, and the quality of the photo just triggers it all, and it just scares me. Like an actual Analog Horror video.