Frank Yang Consciousness Coaching Call 12/10/22

Frank and I talk about Daniel Ingram, Andrew Huberman, Meditation Practice, The spiritual path, dark night of the soul, enlightenment, the natural state, awakening, love, past relationships, emptiness, and more

[@user-eq9gs7bl2e]

bro why has this single man from taiwan who I have never met taught me how to lift and attain spiritual enlightenment lmao

[@joeniemchak]

Frank has been huge influence on so many. Super grateful for him

[@Jacob0693]

I live in Florida, I wish I could get him to just come hang out w me. Never expected to see Fronk in the Dirty South.

[@Sonaurea]

Legend. Teaching us the art of life. His art in general is incredible.

[@joeniemchak]

@@Sonaurea I love his art! It inspires me in so many ways

[@MareikeHuisinga]

From time to time I come back to this talk. You covered a lot of great stuff. Thanks so much! 💜

[@joeniemchak]

I'm happy to hear the chat resonates :) May you continue to sink deeper into this moment. Sending love

[@gabrielshirley2515]

man that period of silence between you two brought tears to my eyes. seeing a couple guys my age share stillness/silence in that way is really inspiring and motivating. that kind of ease is where i feel the practice taking me, like a beautiful view of the path ahead. it hasn't been easy, so that view is much appreciated. thank you.

[@joeniemchak]

Such a beautiful comment, thank you so much for watching :) so glad it resonated

[@bette238]

Speaking wholly with clarity - love this conversation❣️

[@joeniemchak]

😁😁😁

[@dilan7112]

Love this!!!!

[@joeniemchak]

Thanks bro!

[@consciouscactus]

wow, this came at the perfect timing for me. Thnx for uploading

[@joeniemchak]

Of course :) so happy you enjoyed it ❤️

[@jasper.kennedy]

Thanks for sharing this! I'm excited to watch!

[@joeniemchak]

Hoping you enjoy :)

[@JoboJr.]

This was so helpful! Thanks for uploading :)

[@joeniemchak]

Of course :) thank you for watching!

[@mattcapitalized]

thanks for posting brah

[@joeniemchak]

Of course brah

[@markooooo]

Thanks for posting

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you for watching !

[@bette238]

Woweee 💗 the eye gazing

[@joeniemchak]

👀☺️

[@instantjp]

I love this so much. I'm laughing and you guys are laughing. I could just watch that all day. Great interview man.

[@joeniemchak]

This brought a smile to my face! Thanks for watching ❤️

[@ajcld0087]

Loved this tanks for sharng

[@joeniemchak]

Of course :) thank you for listening

[@tobiasdecimusmeridius]

Thanks for posting this brah! Good chat

[@joeniemchak]

Of course brah! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@RandallSin]

Love You brothers ❤ thanks for this

[@joeniemchak]

Love you too bro! Thanks for watching :)

[@ketwals2723]

Listening 2 my own mind its quiet fun. So thx Love.

[@joeniemchak]

❤️❤️❤️

[@JJBerthume]

What a beautiful conversation!!!

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you 😁🙏🏻

[@Self-Duality]

I deeply enjoyed watching your vibrations dance and fuse 😌💭💫💖🪐☀️

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@ImLehwz]

Nice talk. Loved the silence.

[@joeniemchak]

❤️❤️❤️

[@michaurban5664]

Really good!

[@joeniemchak]

:)

[@functionalastrology6358]

Thanks for sharing dude

[@joeniemchak]

Absolutely, thank you for watching :)

[@jonahbranch5625]

29:28 WOW I thought I was the only one. Every time I drink, I get the funny sense of something spiritual happening. I feel more present and more equanimity, as well as parts of ego dissolving. When I told my friend that alcohol had a kind of "psychedelic effect" on me she looked at me like I was crazy lol. It's cool hearing that others have experienced this as well!

[@joeniemchak]

Yes hahaha my relationship with all substances has drastically changed with time. This spirituality thing is a wild ride lmao

[@StevesGunShot]

me too bro

[@blindatnothing]

thx for sharing

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you for watching 😁❤️

[@tennysontaggart]

Bro, your story with your breakup is almost identical to what my last couple months have been. Nice to hear that at the end of a lot of good questions and conversation - helpful to be able to relate. Great vibes all around :)

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you for listening bro :) Sending love as your journey continues

[@KASPARFLUECK]

Thanks this helped me in many ways!

[@joeniemchak]

I'm so glad this helped!!! Thanks for watching

[@dinglebopp]

Great conversation🙌

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you :)

[@Anastasiiia_an]

Thank you so much for sharing this conversation! It was just in time to hear it for me as it brought clarity to a few question I’ve had recently.

[@joeniemchak]

Of course :) so glad you enjoyed it

[@martugharzia]

Really liked this interview, you and frank are both awesome and I really resonate when you said you wish everyone happiness because I also feel like that, sometimes I just have so much love in my heart. Great interview and I also found it really cool when you were in silence because as you mentioned people always find themselves uncomfortable with silence and they try to fil that space with anything (and this also happens to me). Lots of love from Argentina, I really hope you are ok and at peace❤💓

[@joeniemchak]

It’s hard for me to be comfortable in silence as well sometimes! Thank you so much for watching :) where in Argentina are you from? I stayed with a host family in Pilar for 2 weeks when I was 16, I loved it ❤️ feeling so much love ☺️

[@martugharzia]

@@joeniemchak Oh yeah I know Pilar, I have some friends that have a house there and they go on weekends. I live in CABA Capital Federal de Buenos Aires that is the capital of Argentina.

[@joeniemchak]

That's awesome! Before I went to Pilar I spent a couple days in Buenos Aires. Would love to go back, I adore Argentina :)

[@brianschultz7320]

Wow. I literally had the same break up experience as you. Dated a girl for 3+ years we broke up when we both went to college. Talked for a bit then we decided it was best to stop talking. Was in a really terrible mental/emotional space and ended up taking a big dose of LSD where I had ego death. That propelled me into spirituality and helped me get to where I’m at right now. I just want her and everyone else to be happy however that looks. Just letting life play out naturally without getting in the way too much. Great conversation and thanks for sharing.

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you for listening :) Totally agreed on just wanting people to be happy and letting life happen. Funny how connected all of our experiences are

[@scabby-]

Love is letting folks be who they are meant to be. Lsd same realization

[@86010506lily]

❤

[@joeniemchak]

❤️❤️❤️

[@BenWyeth]

Awesome! what school are you going too if you care to share? I'm in a grad program too for MHC degree and sorta thinking spiritual PHD would be awesome. curious. Nice work!

[@joeniemchak]

I was going to apply to the Spirituality Mind Body Institute at Columbia but have decided not to anymore :)

[@DraskoV]

great one

[@joeniemchak]

Thank you :) thanks for watching too. Are you a fan of Frank?

[@DraskoV]

@@joeniemchak we had a chat about a week ago when stream entry/non doership hit 🤣

[@joeniemchak]

@@DraskoV always a fun chat. What does your practice look like right now

[@DraskoV]

@@joeniemchak the shift was recent - so just more seeing what's automatically happening and what systems will develop, but really just more of what i was already doing in phases- except now its very effortless and higher joy/presence- am/pm do nothing meditation (or whatever ends up happening), and more focus/awareness with work/creating

[@joeniemchak]

@@DraskoV very cool stuff. Noticing shifts in perception is awesome. May you sink deeper into liberation ❤️

[@lyndondsouza3198]

lmao , the seizure into " i am getting a path.... " joke

[@joeniemchak]

I totally forgot about this lmao

[@VeritableVagabond]

Hey man, I recommend the KZbin channel Simply Always Awake. He’s the real deal. He likes the Awakening to Reality map like Frank does

[@joeniemchak]

Will definitely check this out bro. Thanks for the suggestion :)

[@blindatnothing]

40:00 something i have learned myself along the way, but its hard not to share this experience with others...

[@joeniemchak]

I feel you, I still talk about it a good bit but it used to be ALL I ever talked about 🤣

[@blindatnothing]

@@joeniemchak bro i felt that

[@caseypham7975]

huberman brought in sam harris and they talked about non dual awareness :)

[@joeniemchak]

No way! Super excited to listen to it :) Did you? If so, how was it?

[@Peterward.arborist]

Thanks for posting this. What are the dark nights that frank talks about?

[@joeniemchak]

Thanks for watching :) the dark night is a series of insight stages according to Mahasi Sayadaw’s map to enlightenment. A bit more can be found in a recent video I made: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pma3Z6iYnJdjmKs

[@calaesthetics2297]

👂

[@joeniemchak]

🫠😵‍💫🥸

[@aleksi.niemela]

Hey Joe! I want to share this with you, what I wrote couple weeks back, thought I was done Enlightent brah but I am not sure anymore lololol . Also, would love to have a talk with you!!! "The whole path swallowed by the void and boooom finally 0/0 deeper than any experience, really is vaster than sky, totally emphty and full simultaniesly. Wtf this is like a mega cessasion or what ever that is when u blink out of existance but it goes deeper, so deep its not even deep just 0, no dimension to be found here, no here to be found, no width, no nono no wtf. No Enlightenment and that god damn map and most importantly no Frank Yang"

[@joeniemchak]

What’s up Aleksi! Your experience sounds pretty similar to my Arising and Passing away event as well as a ton of other descriptions I’ve heard. I love your description of the experience 🤣 would also love to chat with you! Email me @ [e-mail] and we can set something up!

[@JamesSwartzShiningworld]

Is the solution to samsara exclusively experiential? The assumption is that our conditioning stands in the way of the experience of nirvana. It is a dualistic doctrine based on the apparent reality of subject and object. I, the subject, am limited by my state of mind. Because limitation is not acceptable to me I would like to free myself of it. I practice some form of meditation and gain mastery of my mind by removing the thoughts that obstruct the experience of limitlessness. My experience of limitlessness is the object. Buddha’s Eightfold Path and Ashtanga Yoga are the traditional methods for gaining experiential freedom. Buddha did not bring God into it but Patanjali did, saying that surrender to God is an indirect aid for attaining freedom. Success in meditation does not destroy duality. I am still me, the subject, but I now experience freedom. Patanjali does not put it exactly this way. He says that once the mind is brought under control,“the seer dwells in its own nature” and “the indweller shines forth as pure consciousness,” words that amount to freedom but do not take into account the fact that the seer, awareness, dwells in his own nature and shines forth irrespective of the condition of the mind. Nor does it take into account the fact that the meditator is consciousness, i.e., free already. In any case, enlightened or not, a mind free of desire is certainly not undesirable for anyone seeking happiness. This view is fairly reasonable and would not have endured for two thousand years if there was not some truth to it, but it is a very arduous path requiring an austere lifestyle and many years of rigorous practice.

[@joeniemchak]

This was all so beautiful, thank you for taking the time to comment. How familiar are you with Ashtanga yoga and PatanjalI? I have been drawn more towards studying Yoga and the 8 limbs as of recent. Would love to have a chat sometime!

[@wesrman]

53:55 :)

[@joeniemchak]

❤️❤️❤️

[@phonedr.1013]

Is that silence a practice or something just flow your flow? It is really rare to see that and I am not knowing anything about awakening. So I am curious about that. Doesn’t that weird or awkward even wasting time when talk to someone and do this silence? Sorry for my ignorance .

[@joeniemchak]

hi! As practice deepens, silence can be the most rich aspect of experience to sink into. It may seem like not much is going on in the video, but presence is rich in those moments creating no need for anyone to fill the space. Formal meditation can involve sinking deeper and deeper into the profound nothingness that's here and I suppose that starts to bleed into day to day life. There's something so profound about simply being. Being is all there ever is though, silent or not. Regardless, an appreciation and awe for every moment seems to become the case as practice deepens and this includes moments of silence. I guess that's just where the conversation led to. No different than if we would've been talking the whole time instead. I hope this answers your question. Let me know if there's anything else I can answer :)

[@sam5544]

Did this help you become aware of your true self?

[@joeniemchak]

I suppose everything does so yes hahaha

[@elvsolit]

🧠👄🧠

[@joeniemchak]

😁😁😁

[@-Brendon-]

Hey Joe! love this talk. can you explain what you mean by the first path and beyond? ive never heard of these paths you guys are talking about. and is this related to stream entry? is it the eightfold path? thanks in advance!

[@joeniemchak]

Hey! First path = stream entry :) I’m making a video right now simplifying the four path model and explaining A&P, dark night of the soul, equanimity and the four paths. It should be out in within the next few days so hopefully that’ll clear things up

[@-Brendon-]

@@joeniemchak thank you! That helps so much. I’m excited to see it.

[@joeniemchak]

@@-Brendon- Here's the link to the new video!: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZKkgKJ9qbqfrZI

[@vitalyd888]

Super interesting and cool what do you mean when you say AMP?

[@BrandonMather8]

ANP?, Arising and Passing Away

[@joeniemchak]

It’s an insight stage from Theravada Buddhism. This is a good link to learn more :) eudoxos.github.io/cfitness/html/cfitness.html#knowledge-of-the-arising-and-passing-away-of-phenomena-stage-4

[@vitalyd888]

@@joeniemchak ah okay thhanks

[@FreedomBreeze24]

Not found 404 :((

[@QingyangLi]

There is a brain scientist who talks about awareness, but he is very careful to use only scientific language, and not to use the language of spirituality. Dr. Dan Siegel. His book brings me to enlightenment.

[@joeniemchak]

Amazing! Thank you so much for the recommendation and for watching the video. I'll definitely have to read the book :)

[@HARDCORECLASSIC]

who is the guy frank yang keeps mentioning that he would listen to his dharma talks and such ?

[@joeniemchak]

Adyashanti is his name :)

[@HARDCORECLASSIC]

@@joeniemchak thanks a lot, have a nice day ! :)

[@joeniemchak]

@@HARDCORECLASSIC of course :) same to you ☺️

[@KASPARFLUECK]

What is AMP?

[@joeniemchak]

Check this out and let me know what you think! www.integrateddaniel.info/the-arising-and-passing-away

[@deronr2463]

54:05 ?

[@joeniemchak]

Stillness!

[@NothingasAnne]

What was the quiet staring all about?

[@joeniemchak]

Neither of us had anything to say :)

[@NothingasAnne]

@@joeniemchak Thank you. It was beautiful and electric to watch

[@joeniemchak]

@@NothingasAnne Thank you so much for watching and the kind words :)

[@wes_1001]

are you stoned in this or is that just the equanimity?

[@joeniemchak]

That’s just me bro 🤣🤣🤣

[@wes_1001]

@@joeniemchak 😂😂

[@floriferous1174]

Something smells fishy. Frank redirects his answers to other teachers a lot. Also when you ask a question you often suggest an answer in your question which frank just agrees with. Nothing new is garnered. His information is vague. He keeps saying 'when he was on the path' as if he has reached the destination as if Self realization is the end point and not the starting point. He feels a bit like one of those psychics who uses misdirection and confusion to make you think you got something out of it. To me it seems like you answered all your own questions.

[@joeniemchak]

I don't know Franks experience, but my experience of Frank is very positive :)

[@DropDieter]

Asian boy, you talk too much, why? Thor-boy, stop playing Athelstan and get on with Ironside?