Frank Zane vs Ronnie Coleman(1991/2003)

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Marx Max Muscle

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This is a fan requested comparison between Frank Zane and Ronnie Coleman. This is just for fun so expect a few photo shoot pics as well as pics of Coleman from both the early 90's and from 2003.
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@mikthe2004
@mikthe2004 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 - the photo of Frank Zane's vacuum pose is one of the most iconic bodybuilding photos ever!!
@zman8340
@zman8340 2 жыл бұрын
Prob may fav pose of all time with Sergio’s victory pose . I been saying Marx needs to do a best posses of all time video .
@raymondlin8728
@raymondlin8728 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid everyone wanted to be like frank zane. He had a beautiful body, great lines, not all puffy and bloated like most bodybuilders.
@bscott33
@bscott33 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody in their right mind would not want to look like Zane. Perfection that looks attainable
@ralfburon6179
@ralfburon6179 2 жыл бұрын
And than Arnold entered the stage with over 50 pounds more muscles and everybody wanted to Look like Arnold
@Yuvrajsingh71377
@Yuvrajsingh71377 5 ай бұрын
​@@bscott33 Frank Zane symmetry and proportion not easy to attain
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie certainly wins in the gyno and donut gut poses......although TBH pre big PED blast he had a terrific physique.....
@rossscarbro4602
@rossscarbro4602 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter to me Zane is still one of the absolute greats in my eyes and his physique is what I strive to achieve
@Gnybr
@Gnybr 2 жыл бұрын
He looks more like a model than a bodybuilder
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
That's not the purpose of this video. The purpose was to compare early Ronnie with prime Frank.
@madmax-nz2xh
@madmax-nz2xh 2 жыл бұрын
Realy strange becose for me he is the most overeted bb ever..he make the sucses becose averege gym rats wont to look like him..
@michaelschlageter8381
@michaelschlageter8381 2 жыл бұрын
Children would be running in fear😂
@jenpachi2408
@jenpachi2408 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmax-nz2xh i mean in the 70s that's what slot of the point was 🤣
@judowrestlerka
@judowrestlerka 2 жыл бұрын
More people that hit the gym would rather walk around looking like Frank Zane than Ronnie Coleman. No discussion.
@andrewwelch1040
@andrewwelch1040 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane still healthy at 80,Ronnie Coleman greatest Specimen ever, but body smashed to bits at 58. You make your choices in life.
@charismauniversity9626
@charismauniversity9626 2 жыл бұрын
he lived as a lion though, he'll be remembered for generations to come. Cant say the same for Frank.
@andrewwelch1040
@andrewwelch1040 2 жыл бұрын
@@charismauniversity9626 depends on what you value.You seriously telling me that nobody remembers Zane?
@mr.christopherdean6705
@mr.christopherdean6705 2 жыл бұрын
We all die one day. Ronnie gave everything to bodybuilding and he will be known as the best there ever was. Most people live their life until 70 and do nothing. I'd choose the route Ronnie did.
@bigmanmuscle1549
@bigmanmuscle1549 2 жыл бұрын
Frank will be remembered for being smart to not have injuries Ronnie need to go watch Batman beyond and see what happened to bane when he was on venom for years and how he looked due to years on venom dude was in a wheelchair and a oxygen tank let that soak in
@samraizshoaib585
@samraizshoaib585 2 жыл бұрын
@@charismauniversity9626 I love Ronnie but Zane has already been remembered for generations.
@viktorgadany7595
@viktorgadany7595 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane is my all time favorite bodybuilder.
@fad2679
@fad2679 2 жыл бұрын
This is a hilarious comparison :D
@BriantheWolverine
@BriantheWolverine 2 жыл бұрын
Even less juiced Ronnie had phenomenal bicep peaks. Regardless of what you feel, Ronnie had the best genetics we have ever seen.
@sui6160
@sui6160 2 жыл бұрын
Sergio clears
@samraizshoaib585
@samraizshoaib585 2 жыл бұрын
Sergio Sr. Ronnie's second or third.
@ignatziusturret5641
@ignatziusturret5641 2 жыл бұрын
I can see today how good his genetics are. An old ill man. I see fitter 60 year olds every day 😆
@jipke7430
@jipke7430 Ай бұрын
@@ignatziusturret5641 that's such a fallacy. You can't judge someone's bodybuilding genetics by the way they look 20 years past their prime and after a couple of herniated discs. How can you laugh at somebody who did so much for the sport.
@ignatziusturret5641
@ignatziusturret5641 Ай бұрын
@@jipke7430 No sport if you can't walk upright at a middle age. Something about sport is not clear to him or you.
@chuysontest4425
@chuysontest4425 2 жыл бұрын
Frank zane, Danny padilla, Mike mentzer, were the people that got me into bodybuilding,
@simonrankin9177
@simonrankin9177 2 жыл бұрын
Im the same, ,the older generation had more of most things...
@haroldwood1394
@haroldwood1394 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie's power and drive were remarkable, but for physique (and health) I'd prefer Zane any day.
@Murhamdilah
@Murhamdilah 2 жыл бұрын
Aesthetic over grotesque.
@oldassmuscle6680
@oldassmuscle6680 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you did this one before and I'll say the same thing and that was this is almost comical with the size difference and Ronnie still has the edge in conditioning as well. Nice job once again
@Tyler1330
@Tyler1330 2 жыл бұрын
Young Coleman just turning pro pre-special supplementation would have been a force if Classic Physique Div was around. Not sure what he weighted in 93 may have been too much for his height for that Div. ? We all know Zane would have run game for years in Classic Div. ie would have been Mr. O Classic champ for a decade. Staying healthy of course.
@umyrongains4879
@umyrongains4879 2 жыл бұрын
On the contrary, Frank Zane would not be in the top 10. His arms are too big and quads are half the size they need to be for the Classic Physique division. Though I still prefer his physique than any of the top 5 on stage now.
@Daniel_Romanovsky
@Daniel_Romanovsky 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane the Greek God, Ronnie Coleman the Goliath space alien. That last shot of the Zane vacuum though...
@nickbritten8132
@nickbritten8132 2 жыл бұрын
So glad Marx showed this one. Great stuff.
@richfeather
@richfeather 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman was great, probably the best Mr. O, and yet I still prefer Zane’s physique over his - just like I prefer CBum’s physique over Big Ramy’s.
@jeffreylocke8808
@jeffreylocke8808 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane did the most with a thin frame and maximized quality muscle over each inch of his body. His shoulders were not as wide as Ronnie “nothing but a peanut” Coleman. But Frank Zane never got a bloated waist. Frank Zane was a good as you can get without PED abuse.
@GeorgeSamou
@GeorgeSamou 2 жыл бұрын
natural Ronnie was damn good
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Young Coleman would easily beat Frank.
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam 2 жыл бұрын
“Natural” lol
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie was natural until 94. He is absolutely amazing!
@Bonekk1992
@Bonekk1992 2 жыл бұрын
he was as natural as he was negative bodyfat % 😂😂
@wrigleyx
@wrigleyx 2 жыл бұрын
Frank is looking great, legs, wide back....flawless
@samraizshoaib585
@samraizshoaib585 2 жыл бұрын
Arms....
@myflesh10
@myflesh10 2 жыл бұрын
If Ronnie was the same equivalent body weight as Frank, lets say 200 lbs then I'd go with Frank since his aesthetics were so good. But Ronnie also had aesthetics and with the extra mass he surpasses Frank, I'm talking 98 or 99. But aside from that tho such different frames and physiques, Love them both. I got to hang out with Frank a couple times, once in person and once on the phone, knowledgeable guy, used to be a teacher
@simonrankin9177
@simonrankin9177 2 жыл бұрын
I think as you get older ,you tend to admire frank zane more so ,and as others have said frank is still walking ok ,compared to others who are no longer with us ,or hobbling on walking sticks ...
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ 2 жыл бұрын
My soul, Ronnie had SUCH a small waist back in the day! What an aesthetic creature!!
@TheUPSviking
@TheUPSviking 2 жыл бұрын
Marx Max Muscle is killing it with this content! 💪💯💪
@jaysons8050
@jaysons8050 2 жыл бұрын
You let Frank Zane off a little easy here. Ronnie is 5'11 and Frank is 5'9. The scaling is slightly off when it's showing them side by side at the same height
@tomarkadi6612
@tomarkadi6612 2 жыл бұрын
And I would always choose the body of Zane.
@CaptaiNFantTa
@CaptaiNFantTa 2 жыл бұрын
Big Ron soooo huge but zane is such beautiful. Absolut dream Physique ❤️‍🔥🔥🫶🏻
@jasonharryphotog
@jasonharryphotog 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie went way too big
@danielbevan8354
@danielbevan8354 2 жыл бұрын
No such thing 😉
@yoshit9819
@yoshit9819 2 жыл бұрын
Zane looks like a Greek god. Coleman looks like a water Buffalo. Mass for the sake of mass is meaningless.
@martinbishop2966
@martinbishop2966 2 жыл бұрын
Frank weighed 185 lbs when he won the Olympia in 1977 and Ronnie is close to 300 lbs when he won all his titles, however, who would you rather look like? 🙂 Great video as always!🙂 Stay peeled!🙂
@akatzzki
@akatzzki 8 ай бұрын
Zane’s physique is legendary!
@kiekerjan666
@kiekerjan666 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie impression was spot on...🤣🤣🤣
@sosministriesrev1412
@sosministriesrev1412 2 жыл бұрын
No comparison Frank Zane’s physique is awesome in balance, symmetry and aesthetics. Ronnie Coleman is just freak show stuff.
@williammcclelland6789
@williammcclelland6789 2 жыл бұрын
What a fun matchup!
@myflesh10
@myflesh10 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison!!! Ronnie had a great abs and thigh back in the day
@ElizondoAbelardo
@ElizondoAbelardo 2 жыл бұрын
Is it me or most of Zane's available pictures are from the 80s rather than from his Olympia reign?
@dingdong-lt9rz
@dingdong-lt9rz 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather look like Frank Zane than big Ronnie any day and back in the day i went from a natural 11st to a bloated 20st monster and boy am i regretting now . I'm now a type 2 diabetic at 11st and have so many aches and pains at only age 37. All my gains have gone. All I'm saying is if you choose to go down the size route then please be careful and use your head and really ask yourself is it all worth it for something thats only temporary.
@mustang6speedd569
@mustang6speedd569 2 жыл бұрын
Zane, today would be a mens physique competitor. I dont think hes big enough to be in classic physique.
@RM-306
@RM-306 2 жыл бұрын
Great match up- the best of both worlds. Lee Priest VS Arnold plz Mark?
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
My Dream physique is an 80-90% of the off season Prime Frank Zane (Let's say 10 - 12% body fat). And now I know no matter how Superior I shall strive and become, I will never even reach Ronnie's 91 version! The Absofuckinglutely Incredible Ronnie the GOAT Coleman!
@mattofruitloop
@mattofruitloop 2 жыл бұрын
I one day wish to look like Zane
@riceflatpicking4954
@riceflatpicking4954 2 жыл бұрын
Frank could have hid his entire body inside Ronnie’s badonk. I would like to see a comparison next between Arnold and Carla Dunlap, how about that.
@ignatziusturret5641
@ignatziusturret5641 2 жыл бұрын
Frank will certainly survive Ronnie although he is how much older?
@stanleyholder5825
@stanleyholder5825 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I much prefer Zane's refined physique. Zane is much more balanced, symmetrical, and refined. In the latter Coleman pix, he looks swollen and imbalanced. I was surprised by the earlier pix of Coleman. He looked incredible, tight and much better proportioned.
@jeffreylocke8808
@jeffreylocke8808 2 жыл бұрын
Ectomorphic versus Metamorphic development.
@tazz5406
@tazz5406 2 жыл бұрын
Can u do Chan Branch VS URS KALISINSKI
@ik6bobby
@ik6bobby 2 жыл бұрын
What about Greg Kovacs vs Jean-Pierre Fux?
@Mr_Protein11
@Mr_Protein11 24 күн бұрын
It’s impossible to compare these two bro one of them is literally from the old golden era without the technology and so so much less gear+different categories
@DonSchanteloni
@DonSchanteloni 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman turned the 2003 Olympia into the "2000-Freak" Olympia
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 2 жыл бұрын
The genetics weren't poorer back in the day, they just didn't maximise their genetic potential through diet, training and drugs to the extreme levels the guys of today do. Sergio Olivia would have absolutely been on Colemans level (if not better) if he had the modern perks, Frank Zane purposely didn't get bigger because he was worried it would ruin his lines, Frank never truly maximised his genetic potential, to say the genetics of the guys of yesteryear were poorer is ignorant, c'mon Max! 🤷🏼‍♂️
@madmax-nz2xh
@madmax-nz2xh 2 жыл бұрын
Zane is small as fuck,if he was natty with that look that woud be diferente story..
@rockywaters9592
@rockywaters9592 2 жыл бұрын
@@madmax-nz2xh he was small by today's standards, but compared to what chemicals the guys are doing today, Frank Zane might aswell have been natty. They had little to no scientific knowledge of the drugs and nutrition back then, and again! Frank Zane was a huge advocate for supplements like desicated liver, co enzymes and brewers yeast, the guy was a health nut, steroids were used for contest prep to hold onto the muscle while stripping the fat, they weren't banging boat loads of Tren, GH, insulin and whatever else during the off season to the point of struggling to breathe while speaking. If Frank Zane was around today with that frame and the modern mindset he could be massive, his genetics weren't the reason for him not being a freak, it was the spirit of bodybuilding back then which was more based on symmetry, aesthetics and a look that guys reading the magazines viewed as healthy and achievable. Frank Zane was featured on the front of magazines more than any other bodybuilder for that reason, genetics aren't the reason why the average man looks at the cover of a magazine today and think the physiques look disgusting, it's the drugs! Frank Zane was a reason for the average guy wanting to lift weights and get healthy, when the average guy looks at Nick Walker he screams steroids and says things like "he'll be dead in a few years." for Max to say the genetics were poorer back then is ignorant imo 🤷🏼‍♂️
@g.a_aesthetics7621
@g.a_aesthetics7621 2 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough, Frank Zane probably wouldn’t be be big enough to even be a top level mens physique pro
@jasondevera256
@jasondevera256 2 жыл бұрын
Do Tony duong vs Chen kang next
@johndilauro3462
@johndilauro3462 2 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you compare Ronnie in I believe in 1994 ? When he turned pro at a 100% natural athlete . Ronnie weighed 194 lbs .I believe Frank Zane weighed about 185lbs ? Frank is an amazing man .We hung out at the 2004 Mr Olympia.He has a booth right besides mine Ronnie is also a phenomenal man .He is a man of god !!
@augusto9431
@augusto9431 2 жыл бұрын
They say more is not always better. Well I think that yes Ronnie is the bigger guy more muscles than Zane and so I think that he beats Zane in the most muscular poses but he has no chance when it's about aesthetic and proportion of a human.
@georgeibrahim7945
@georgeibrahim7945 2 жыл бұрын
Boy verse man
@PowPow-yp9rf
@PowPow-yp9rf 5 ай бұрын
Frank's the best
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
My doubts are cleared. 1:28 2:01 3:22 4:33 Earliest Ronnie (29" waist) is even more Aesthetic than the God of Aesthetics Frank Zane! 😱 You should have also used '93 Nurnberg version... 😞 Anyway, thank you MMM for this one! ❤️🤗
@justsomejusstsome8994
@justsomejusstsome8994 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Zane is that aesthetic. He looks good but not even close to being the most aesthetic
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomejusstsome8994 He was Phenomenal in his era (absolutely no doubts) but a couple of decades later, the Aesthetic standards sky rocketed.
@Emp6ft10in
@Emp6ft10in 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane always gives people who can't make gains hope that they can at least look really cut. Ronnie beats him on everything except abs. But that's only because Zane is so small he is going to have a tiny waist.
@davidrobertson6014
@davidrobertson6014 2 жыл бұрын
Apples and oranges here lol XD
@dburke4754
@dburke4754 2 жыл бұрын
Young Ronnie is more aesthetic change my mind
@JohnPeter1940
@JohnPeter1940 2 жыл бұрын
Can Ronnie pull a vacum ??
@damkmankm3755
@damkmankm3755 2 жыл бұрын
Than Zane? Go see a doctor.
@ezeuzuka3344
@ezeuzuka3344 2 жыл бұрын
@@damkmankm3755 frank Zane has overrated aesthetics...I don't care if everyone's against me
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 2 жыл бұрын
@@damkmankm3755 You see an eye doctor. Young Coleman EASILY beats Frank.
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 2 жыл бұрын
@@damkmankm3755 Go back and look at the pictures.
@sippingtea6055
@sippingtea6055 2 жыл бұрын
Frank still looks better, is more aesthetic, and with better detail. There are back shots of Zane that look like aqueducts with striated channels running through the Delts, Traps, and Spine ("Xmas Tree"). I'm not knocking Ronnie for being the Cartoonish mass monster he became. There's a fan base for that. If anyone could own a physique that put them into Greek God status when they stripped down at a beach or pool, whose would you want?
@sankhawkulathantille
@sankhawkulathantille 2 жыл бұрын
One question: why fans? Why?
@bambostarla6259
@bambostarla6259 2 жыл бұрын
Because its a great homage to both the golden and the mass era
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
I'm one of the earliest guys who requested this. What we wanted was 93 and early Ronnie v. Prime Frank. Because That Ronnie has better Aesthetics than even prime Zane! Have you seen natty Ronnie in 93 Nurnberg show with a 29" waist?
@poshgentleman559
@poshgentleman559 2 жыл бұрын
And to sum up: irrespective of size, weight, and body part dimensions.....Zane looked way, better. And today, though not as big at 80 years old: he has survived to that age in relativly good health. Will ronnie, and others from his era get to that age though ? Big structured guys don,t seem to do well in the aging process.
@NoRest4TheWicked1
@NoRest4TheWicked1 2 жыл бұрын
I would rather look like young Ronnie than prime Zane. What an aesthetic marvel
@thecomedian6920
@thecomedian6920 2 жыл бұрын
Zane has the body anyone would want to have. Coleman can't walk now. Nuff said.
@goldenhord7281
@goldenhord7281 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie -1% body fat
@318greenman
@318greenman Жыл бұрын
It's apples and pears... Frank Zane the epitome of masculinity and Ronnie Coleman...bloated beyond recognition as human... Although he really looks good back in 91?
@michaelphillips5786
@michaelphillips5786 2 жыл бұрын
99% of men want to look like Zane.
@angrayderaydbler
@angrayderaydbler 2 жыл бұрын
Lee prest vs paul dillet
@okipo3443
@okipo3443 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at how big his legs and back were in his prime it wouldn't surprise me if he could actually still be natty in those 91 photos
@rayharvey1330
@rayharvey1330 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather be built like Frank Zane...🧐....Natural > Steroid blob
@Мирич-з4е
@Мирич-з4е 2 жыл бұрын
3:04 Big Ramy?
@otisthecanadianbulldog2400
@otisthecanadianbulldog2400 2 жыл бұрын
Zane.
@strafniki1080
@strafniki1080 2 жыл бұрын
Zane looks much better
@rockeazymatt
@rockeazymatt 2 жыл бұрын
marx max muscle vs markus ruhl
@kayledarius4965
@kayledarius4965 2 жыл бұрын
Finally hahaha
@celebratecrypto3693
@celebratecrypto3693 2 жыл бұрын
Zane looks really good in normal pictures but on stage he looked almost weird to me. And Ronnie looked great natural but on gear he was perfect except for his chest and stomach looked weird in many shots. But both were great champs for sure
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 2 жыл бұрын
Frank Zane looks skinny to King Coleman.
@That6Truth
@That6Truth 2 жыл бұрын
*1991 ?????*
@danielbevan8354
@danielbevan8354 2 жыл бұрын
Never was a fan of Zane's physique
@justsomejusstsome8994
@justsomejusstsome8994 2 жыл бұрын
Zane is so overrated. He's aesthetic but there are a handful of guys more aeshetic than him in both classic AND open
@cristianr.f6465
@cristianr.f6465 2 жыл бұрын
Cbum destroys Zane
@jasonharryphotog
@jasonharryphotog 2 жыл бұрын
Zane has iconic images and poses does Ronnie he has the size but I’m not a huge fan, his dynasty hasn’t left a good imprint in bb like the golden years
@lloydkline1518
@lloydkline1518 2 жыл бұрын
Frank zane vs larry scott
@loves2smooch384
@loves2smooch384 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe Frank Zane was 190 on stage , more like 175-180
@yoshit9819
@yoshit9819 2 жыл бұрын
183 at 77 Olympia. 190 in 79
@JohnPeter1940
@JohnPeter1940 2 жыл бұрын
Day 184 of saying hi to Marx!
@RenegadeRanga
@RenegadeRanga 2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie was so overrated. Politics and raw mass is what got him his trophies, not merit. His deaf dumb blind fan bois just will never see it. Zero aesthetics and a filthy gut. Lee Haney won 8 and it was deserved. Flex should have won on aesthetics. Cutler in 01, Gunter in 02, Gustavo Badell and so on.
@paul9511
@paul9511 2 жыл бұрын
This is a human verses an alien creature of some kind,funny...Frank needed the chems,the nutrients of today,the machine,s do a bit to,Frank would of been bigger, Ron was a X with silver back.🙃🇦🇺
@seddikyazidi9743
@seddikyazidi9743 2 жыл бұрын
what Am I doinig here lol!
@philvalade2437
@philvalade2437 2 жыл бұрын
Do you see the difference at 0:26!! Yeah, about 150 pounds more, 😂
@madmax-nz2xh
@madmax-nz2xh 2 жыл бұрын
This video showing how averige Zane genetics was..and that is whay he is famous,a lot of averige guy in the world that worship him and just wont to look good at beach..Coleman kill him even natty
@michaeljohnson3383
@michaeljohnson3383 2 жыл бұрын
The whole trout lmao
@seanmurphy26
@seanmurphy26 2 жыл бұрын
We are trout crazy over here in South Gulf Coast Texas, also.
@lazur1
@lazur1 2 жыл бұрын
hat is the mascualine ideal? Do you prefer to have everyone staring at you, or get laid?
@MrAde1101
@MrAde1101 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t even look the same species
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 2 жыл бұрын
The younger Coleman would easily beat Frank.
@Nirsterkur
@Nirsterkur 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was the reason we requested it. I had a doubt but not anymore. Young Ronnie wins. Also, have you seen him in 93 Nurnberg show?
@markbarbosa3158
@markbarbosa3158 2 жыл бұрын
6th
@kayla0002134266654
@kayla0002134266654 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Hemsworth is better than Zane
@gt3shredz510
@gt3shredz510 2 жыл бұрын
False, his inserts and structure is worse
@TheThingKing
@TheThingKing 2 жыл бұрын
The Coleman impression always makes me laugh!
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