dexter stood on stage with almost everybody he said people would be in shock when ronnie undressed, i don't know how anybody can argue with a guy like dexter he saw them live in person with his own two eyes, so pictures don't tell the whole story and even looking at the pics ronnie is the clear winner
@jeffreylavergne30904 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa your or my opinion dont matter ! If you prefer 98-99 then you do however its what the judges where looking for . In 2003 era theres no way 1998-99 ronnie would stand a chance because the judges would give it to 2003 Ron . Even jay would place ahead of 98-99 Ron in 2003 . A 98-99 Ron would stand a better chance today of winning now that the judges are steering back towards streamlining the physiques ...
@MikeG824 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa you didn't notice is said "ALMOST EVERYBODY"? DeLusionpopa
@MikeG824 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylavergne3090 2003 ronnie would beat everybody, but no way any version of jay would beat 98 99 ronnie, it's not like jay suddenly had a comparable back or way anywhere near as peeled as ronnie those years jay barely beat a broken down ronnie in 2006 yet you think he would beat ronnie at arguably his best?
@jeffreylavergne30904 жыл бұрын
@@MikeG82 you didnt hear what I said .. I agree with you 100% but it's not what you think or me it's the judges ! They wanted size over quality . But I imagine 99 ron would be close he was much bigger than 98 even though I prefer 98
@scottish__beard88564 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylavergne3090 99 was fantastic, he was about 10lbs heavier than 98! 247ish in 98 and 257lbs in 99 but wasn't as conditioned!
@aradina64323 жыл бұрын
I notice a pattern here with the third year in the decade. 1973: One of the best physiques of Arnold ever and also the most shredded one. 1983: Insanely good Samir Bannout 1993: Arguably the best physique of Dorian Yates 2003: Arguably the best Ron ever 2013: Arguably the best physique of Phil Heath What's in store for 2023? Maybe Ramy comes in with lat insertions and hard grainy conditioning?
@karimtemri16642 жыл бұрын
Hehehhehe
@Geckoliga2 жыл бұрын
Cool 👍
@cheech_cheech2 жыл бұрын
exactly what I was thinking about too
@RoaringJaguar2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome you’re actually right!
@ShayanGivehchian2 жыл бұрын
This didn't age well
@markpetela52864 жыл бұрын
Phil's 3d muscles are crazy his detail and fullness is unmatched
@codyfreeman99302 жыл бұрын
All the peptides
@Terminator185812 жыл бұрын
:))
@jjjyli6862 жыл бұрын
Muscle definition phil wins but the size and definition together on ronnies back blows everybody out the water. 2011 phil was cut to the bone
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
I agree. it really comes down to a matter of preference I believe at this level. I personally find the round muscle bellies of PH more aesthetically pleasing. I also think PH's narrow waist/v taper is an advantage too. That being said, judging criteria on any particular year is another matter. Some years they seem to look for mass others they seem to look for Aesthetics. I suppose it can be argued that Ronnie was the more complete package... but again.. preference!
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@Devineintention Жыл бұрын
2003 Ronnie is the pinnacle of bodybuilding. It doesn’t get better than that.
@Sanal-gu7li Жыл бұрын
These ugly monsters are pinnacles😂
@Sanal-gu7li Жыл бұрын
@@hellotcautiver why do u like this asshole kind of physique
@delacroixii Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@DanM-pw9nl Жыл бұрын
09 Cutler, 02 ruhl
@zadd5968 ай бұрын
Yeah. Also the bubble gut
@georgehav6504 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Phil better. He's more aesthetically more pleasing to look at
@benjaminli38083 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too, although i think Ronnie would win from an objective standpoint
@juanaguirre61533 жыл бұрын
No
@Imperialbbuilding3 жыл бұрын
@@juanaguirre6153 yes
@Baba24M3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminli3808 Ronnie 1999?
@9999-k9q3 жыл бұрын
Bodybuilding isnt a beauty competition. Its about muscular development and leanness. Ronnie is another level.
@jacobbrassard27764 жыл бұрын
If they were on stage together I thing kit would be Ronnie all the way. Phill would look too narrow. Ronnie would make phill look like his kid.
@jacobbrassard27764 жыл бұрын
@Pro life only Phill is also a mommy so whats your point.
@davidkosiba6244 жыл бұрын
@@jacobbrassard2776 Yes, but not the 2013 version, I would rather look like Phil even like 2018 version than Ronnie, Ronnie's midsection is disgusting for me, I don't care if his back is the best in the history
@absarhassan80534 жыл бұрын
@@davidkosiba624 what you think does not matter! Think from a bodybuilding judge's perspective and you'll realise who is the real winner. Granted, Ronnie's mid-section is not good looking.
@lukaszk4544 жыл бұрын
but look at this comparison, the scaling is very good and Phil doesn't look like Ronnie's kid
@voss99334 жыл бұрын
@@lukaszk454 ronnie was a good 40lbs heavier then phil, and these pictures dont do a great job showing that, to put in perspective, big ramy is about the same weight as ronnie in 2020 (in worse condition) and you can see just how big ramy looked next to phil
@ValentinoValenti4 жыл бұрын
Pictures don't do a good Justice seeing them in person is what really makes it if you saw a Rony in person next to Phil you wouldn't even question Ronnie's dominance
@laurikotivuori15854 жыл бұрын
Ronnie's 3D beach ball gut would indeed look majestic in real life. He would win as well due to the lacking judging criteria that doesn't count aesthetics in at all
@laurikotivuori15854 жыл бұрын
Then again, it's not Ronnies mistake that the judges reward size more than aesthetics
@tyronejones42454 жыл бұрын
@70mMyWi53 Pretty sure no one has even mentioned personality. The point is that Ronnie would dwarf him if you saw them next to each other in person.
@tyronejones42454 жыл бұрын
@@laurikotivuori1585 Phil's gut is at least as bad so that's a moot point.
@laurikotivuori15854 жыл бұрын
@@tyronejones4245 Not in 2013 which just "happens" to be the comparison in this video
@jagsl1234 жыл бұрын
Phil had actually admitted he would not have a chance against Coleman. Although not the prettiest, Coleman had a certain thick dense look to his muscles that is very hard to beat
@BruceWayne-ri4wr2 жыл бұрын
Dorian with smashed both these guys I can't believe they put Coleman on a pedestal like they do Dorian never lost him never he never would have had he not retired
@DatNguyen-hx6rb2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-ri4wr lol dorian no arms
@BruceWayne-ri4wr2 жыл бұрын
@@DatNguyen-hx6rb yet somehow nine and zero versus Ronnie Coleman Wonder how that happened because Dorian's the better bodybuilder vastly superior conditioning just as big The greatest back in the history of the universe better triceps than Ronnie when you want to talk about arms Ronnie basically had no triceps no abs Ronnie Coleman severely overrated
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@delacroixii Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@konev13thebeast4 жыл бұрын
Phil definitely has the back poses. Ronnies back isnt as conditioned, especially shows in the lat spread
@KinqK00pa3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5q8kIuta7ath5I. I completely disagree
@dj_m193 жыл бұрын
@@KinqK00pa fanboy
@KinqK00pa3 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 you say they like it’s an insult you fruit cake
@romellwatson48533 жыл бұрын
What???? 👎🏾 Ronnie back was way more conditioned than Phil’s.
@konev13thebeast3 жыл бұрын
6:39 Phil heath clearly has more definition.
@pete6705 Жыл бұрын
Phil is an amazing elite bodybuilder. Ronnie is a monster
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@stevenneese2823 Жыл бұрын
A god vs a titan
@edmundgutierrez78212 жыл бұрын
Really took Phil's physique for granted would like to see him on Olympia stage in 23
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@uoiuo Жыл бұрын
Guys in the last few years are a joke cmpared to prime Phill
@autismwalk68554 жыл бұрын
Coleman all the way, man!
@clenbuterol49893 жыл бұрын
lol
@tiromandal63992 жыл бұрын
lmao
@codyfreeman99302 жыл бұрын
Pics r not sized correctly. Doesn’t show how much bigger Ronnie really is. You could fit Phil in Ronnie’s shoulder. But the pics n symmetry make Phil’s shoulders look bigger when if on same stage they r not bigger
@Asiansxsymbol2 жыл бұрын
If they stood next to each other on stage, Ronnie would dwarf Phil. But Phil's structure is more pleasing.
@ferminordonez42752 жыл бұрын
@@Asiansxsymbol 😂
@wewewewewewewew20764 жыл бұрын
bodybuilding channels always say that ronnies back is softer than phils but its just skincolour and lighting in my opinion. they both hard af from the back
@JohnSmith-eo2yx4 жыл бұрын
I think it's the vascularity. Phil does look drier in the mid back. I agree there's no way it's a big difference based on other body parts but I think Phil's back does look tighter and cleaner.
@ShadowDancerr4 жыл бұрын
Yep there is a big difference in lighting
@dj_m193 жыл бұрын
well not really, the lighting doesn't decide and pick between muscle groups. at 6:40 you can see the difference between Coleman's glutes and hamstrings and his upper body. Look at his back, it is much smoother and obviously holds water retention. Phil is dry ALL OVER, his lower back is much more conditioned than Ronnie's and his traps are visible from top to bottom.
@hrishikeshnath10134 жыл бұрын
You always hated ronnie coleman....GOAT
@joshwaterman55263 жыл бұрын
He just doesn’t look great though. Hes an amazing body builder no doubt but he doesn’t flow very well compared to so many others which is a very important thing in bodybuilding. It’s not all about size and muscle separation. You gotta have a good flow from top to bottom. His mid section seems almost to big for the rest of his body.
@manuelazinger998311 ай бұрын
8× Mr.O
@EricM_3054 жыл бұрын
Ronnie's abs here are atrocious
@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK4 жыл бұрын
Ronnies everything is is stupendous and goat like...but yes lets harp on gut distention lol
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
@@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK Sorry but a huge gut throws the entire physique off. 2004 was even worse, it stuck out further than his chest.
@BatmanBoss4 жыл бұрын
That version of a Ronnie is unbeatable
@danishshamsi52284 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Ronnie is too big
@danishshamsi52284 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa I do like 98/99 Ronnie but 03 Ronnie was too much for anyone...
@danishshamsi52284 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa when cutler says 03 Ronnie was too much...
@alexworm17074 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he was just a tad bit more conditioned and with a tighter midsection, it would be ridiculous
@nextgengaming0744 жыл бұрын
Phil 13 beated 03 Coleman
@Jadestonk3 жыл бұрын
Phill got him. Roonie has better structure which plays well in most of poses but Phil is 2013 is just a pleasure to look at, take a look 1:18 & 1:30.. it's just insane
@mohamedmabrouk41832 жыл бұрын
What about the camera angle look for a good pics for colmem 2003 from the back his unstoppable
@marcusj97 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd have to defend ronnie coleman..lol. If you take away phils delts and arms (they are huge but oversized) what do you have? Ronnie is the total package of size, conditioning, and genetics.
@Mr.unknown_91 Жыл бұрын
Yeah his back legs and abs
@segaGenesis245 ай бұрын
If you take away penis from my grandpa he'd be my grandma
@MrKowalskyfication4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone agrees that Phil has the better back poses! His lower back tie in is just on another level.
@millionbahlibi60783 жыл бұрын
if they stood side to side, Ronnie would dwarf Phill cause of phill's narrow structure in the lat spread. dennis wold was litteraly twice as wide as phill . phill would get his ass kicked so hard by ronnie in the lat structure, no question.
@ferminordonez42752 жыл бұрын
@@millionbahlibi6078 😂😂😂
@millionbahlibi60782 жыл бұрын
@@ferminordonez4275 you guys just fans of phill which is fine. But it’s too obvious if they both stepped on stage in their prime, there’s no way he would beat Ronnie. Ronnie was 50 pounds heavier and just as lean. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand
@ferminordonez42752 жыл бұрын
@@millionbahlibi6078 Yeah, sure, fanboy...
@NeonAnimeDreams2 жыл бұрын
Yea Phil was damn near Dorian when it came to back
@naturalbreed37454 жыл бұрын
No way Phil Side chest better than ronnie, Ronnie rear lats better too.
@incarser1014 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is a sloppy mess you deluded like everyone with biggerexia
@Leggn04 жыл бұрын
Nah mate Ronnie wins but not in these poses
@ArMiNiSfUCkinRedicK4 жыл бұрын
@@incarser101 yeh lets act like ronnie conditioning isnt insane...u dont know jack shit about judging dunce....find me someone with the insane vascularity and detail ronnie had while maintaining proper mass and struture.....we really gonna harp on gut distention...PHIL HAD IT TO IN HIS CAREER....DORIAN HAD IT to ....CUTLER HAD IT TO...all the greats have....lame educate urself.... "But arnold, but lee haney" BOY THOSE WERE BEFORE THE MASS era learn ur bodybuilding...they had no competition unlike these boys today
@medicinein3mins4804 жыл бұрын
@@incarser101 Ronnie was flatlinning everyone from the back, and you say Ronnie was a mess? What drugs are u on?
@medicinein3mins4804 жыл бұрын
@Pro life only Ronnie never had too condition? Dude had glute striations. Dorian nvr did. If not for Coleman, glutes striations were not an indicator for conditioning. Just gfoh
@FatherSonHolySpiritAmen.4 жыл бұрын
That clavicle on Coleman, is just too much for Phil..
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
That collar bone? That is what you're referring to right. That is very weird!
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
I'm going to apologize now. I think I've realized what you mean and you're right. The smaller clavicle so to speak, causes a smaller narrower pec muscle as well as chest width in general. You're absolutely right. I apologize, assuming this is what you meant
@stevegeorge68803 жыл бұрын
Coleman brought the better package, but Phil is killing him with the presentation.
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@Leggn04 жыл бұрын
6:20 is Ronnie all day
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
Phil all the way here. It's ridiculous the judges never punished Ronnie when his GUT declared it's independence. They had no problem punishing Phil for it.
@mohamedmabrouk41832 жыл бұрын
Phil has a gut in 2013
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedmabrouk4183 invest in your reading comprehension!
@TheForbiddenLean2 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedmabrouk4183 Only as much as anybody else that big has a gut. His abs are big, he does not have a gut. Ronnie on the other hand did have a gut, a ripped gut, but nonetheless a gut. Saying Phil had a gut in 2013 is like saying Roelly Winklaar had a gut in 2018.
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@pwr279864 жыл бұрын
The thing that's hard to compare is having them stand next to each other on stage. Coleman's size would be even more dominant.
@joshwaterman55263 жыл бұрын
It’s a shape vs size battle. Depends what the judges prefer that day I guess.
@dj_m193 жыл бұрын
@@joshwaterman5526 shape AND conditioning. Ronnie did get bigger between 2002-2003 but he also sacrificed conditioning for more mass (aka not dieting as much as he did previously) and that is easily seen in the mid section, quads and the back. Look at his back in the rear lat spread, it obviously holds a lot of water retention and doesn't look nowhere near as conditioned or dry as his glutes and hamstrings.
@clenbuterol49893 жыл бұрын
@@dj_m19 Lol Coleman more water and flat Olympia Dorian in Grand prix 1996 was more better.All love Coleman becouse he can't walk and Phil is billionaire
@scerkann39663 жыл бұрын
@@clenbuterol4989 there are rumors that Phil is broke lol
@clenbuterol49893 жыл бұрын
@@scerkann3966 What means broke?
@CHARLTON20154 жыл бұрын
I never liked 2003 ronnie. His midsection was an absolute mess and his wait was massive. Ugly physique imo. I liked 98,99 way better.
@itsmeyourfriend19 ай бұрын
Ronnie can't be repeated , only in the next generations . He is unique. He definitely will beat Phil heath .
@joefrederick6471 Жыл бұрын
What many people miss is that Ronnie’s rear lat spread isn’t done very well and it still is impressive with slabs of muscle everywhere even showing on his upper trap area. If you flare out like that vs the traditional rolling your shoulder blades in towards the front there is a distinct difference in how wide you look with the flaring toward the front giving you a much wider look. It is scary to think how Ronnie’s rear lat spread would have looked if done say like Phil’s. He would have probably had one of the best rear lat spreads of all time even challenging Dorians.
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a few pics where he hits it properly, and yes it's ridiculous
@sackychin6267 Жыл бұрын
Similar in the back double. Phil leans back super far to appear wider, while Ronnie is almost upright.
@greengoblin9567 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie Coleman 1999 was better conditioned and better at all the poses.
@ivantheboy53743 жыл бұрын
I think if Phil has wider clavicles and a wider frame, he would've been unstoppable even against the king himself
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
Umm... I'm not sure you know what the clavicle is! You are referring to his collarbone? I've never heard of a bodybuilder suffering because his collarbone wasn't developed enough 😳?
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
I'm going to apologize now. I think I've realized what you mean and you're right. The smaller clavicle so to speak, causes a smaller narrower pec muscle as well as chest width in general. You're absolutely right. I apologize, assuming this is what you meant
@raindoset5408 Жыл бұрын
@@jacal420 the wider the clavicle the wider your shoulder will be and this contribute to the v taper(wide shoulders with popping lats and small waist)
@SwoleTony13 Жыл бұрын
I agree, that is Phil's only real weakness. Would be almost the perfect physique
@stevewandaful11 ай бұрын
If Ronnie had a 34 inch waist he'd be unbeatable. Oh yeah, he was anyway?
@billymimnaugh3998 Жыл бұрын
This guy is nuts .Ronnie’s side chest kills Heath .Ronnie’s back crushes Phil to the back .Much bigger , much thicker , much more slabs , much more separation.This guy is nuts .NOT ONE top bodybuilder ever says Heath could beat Ronnie
@davidkosiba6244 жыл бұрын
In my eyes, nobody deserve to win an Olympia with a midsection like Ronnie's, I don't care how good the other parts are
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@ravindersinghbura9918 Жыл бұрын
Your eyes doesn’t matter lmao
@davidkosiba624 Жыл бұрын
@@ravindersinghbura9918 You really replied to a 3 year old comment lol
@Logicalmate4 жыл бұрын
I stand by you. This comparison was very fair and i will always take Phil heath 2013 vs Ronnie 2003. Although 1999 would have been a different story.
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@stefanosprokopis69744 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about. Heath is tighter and more well put together
@9999-k9q3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is double phils size🤣
@stefanosprokopis69743 жыл бұрын
@@9999-k9q he is not twice the size. If he was his biceps would be almost 50 inches.
@9999-k9q3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanosprokopis6974 Its not literal dumbass.
@loganslocum4799 Жыл бұрын
I believe Phil 2010-2013 is the greatest bodybuilder of all time
@OsirisDiamonds2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say you had me rolling with the jokes. Great channel.
@geoundead92684 жыл бұрын
These 2 physiques are the best ever by bodybuilding standars....if every mr o physique steeped on stage at the same time... 2003 Ronnie would win and 2013 Phil would be second
@Srbenda1264 жыл бұрын
Prime Yates beats prime Phil, and maybe prime Jay, it is debatable
@geoundead92684 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Dorian ....Does...NOT.....beat Ronnie dude....no way its close against phil but he doesnt beat ronnie.....coleman is bigger and close condition....compare them side by side and you will see.
@geoundead92684 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa Dont fool your self dude...the main criteria is mass and conditioning....ronnie wina in mass by a long shot and dorian has slighly better conditioning.....hams and glutes there isnt even a comparison and eveb in the back Ronnie is way bigher....dorian would have looked small and flat next to Ronnie bro.
@geoundead92684 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa The judges never seemed to care about the waistline and if its bloated or not so this wouldnt matter...and they put their emphasise mostly in mass....ronnie wouls smoke him in the ham glute area and propably wouls take the back lat spread as well cuz of that and cuz of the extra mass and fullness..i think Phil from 2013 or 2011 coyls beat 1995 dorian as well but it would have been closer.
@geoundead92684 жыл бұрын
@TheLusianPopa How can you fucking compare ramy to ronnei...ramy is way smotther than ronnei and doesnt have as good of a back and more others...if u dont believe me about what i said about ronnei...go listen to some other bodybuilding youtubers or compititiors on youtube that know about bodybuilding (and basically say what im saying)...and learn from them.....Tormn8er is a good one...go learn from him.u really dont know about bodybuilding bro no offense.
@ValentinoValenti4 жыл бұрын
Phil's hips are farther ahead then his back he's flexing his back in both directions were Ronnie's only flexing in One fron right to left. . phil with his hips ahead of his midline is flexing from front to back and side to side .if ronnoe was flexing in directions you would see the same type of detail
@hitmanx2004 жыл бұрын
Not only that but alot of the photos of ronnie are at a 30 degree angle
@timsullivan79403 жыл бұрын
I think Phil has a more aesthetic build, but Ronnie's mass is just unbeatable. I HATE his midsection...I wish more than anything they could figure a way to get back to tiny waists, but I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon.
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@joshwaterman55263 жыл бұрын
Ronnie’s back when he does the rear lat spread doesn’t match the rest of his body. I don’t get why people argue this. Phil’s conditioning goes throughout his whole body and your right Ronnie’s back does look soft compared to his legs and arms. Never realized it really until watching this
@ptrgr722 жыл бұрын
The lightning was also kind of bad
@nanasetiana26892 жыл бұрын
Those two lateral spread are "different pose". different style of lateral spread.. Ronnie style show monster massiveness. Phil style show definition..
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@2kpurp879 Жыл бұрын
I was right with you on this , man 🔥😂
@machia71664 жыл бұрын
Your voice is very soothing, you should start a podcast.
@tomkruze27492 жыл бұрын
Stop! Just STOP! Put them on the Same Stage. Ronnie would Dwarf Phil. In Body Building “Bigger is Better”
@lukatabak28004 ай бұрын
phil is like an upgraded kevin levrone
@SuryaGD4 жыл бұрын
Ronnie would just be 'a conditioned big ramy' for phil in my opinion
@ramesg76574 жыл бұрын
Symmetry round - Ronnie Coleman Fdb - RC Fls - RC SC - RC ST- PH Bls- RC BDB - Draw A&T - Draw MM - PH (throwing a bone here ) RC wins
@derderdeinemutterfickt49364 жыл бұрын
Bdb to ronnie
@kingryuga97104 жыл бұрын
I would say Side chest phil in that paticular photo comparison.
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
Phil wins the side chest. Better conditioning in the arms, chest and legs., Plus he's executing the pose way better.
@giovannyc38864 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get hate but I "Phil" that Heath is better he has a far more pleasing physique and proportions with paper thin skin. Take away the fact that he's so narrow and he would be pretty close to perfection.
@wowthatsawesome2762 Жыл бұрын
I think Phil looks more symmetrical and has better conditioning. Despite giving up some size he has enough to win
@Michaelburlyo2 жыл бұрын
Phil is so much more aesthetic and round and a better representation for mens open bodybuilding! I don’t even think it’s close but I know alot of folks think otherwise just cuz of Ronnie’s unparalleled muscle mass! I think there’s more to it than that! That’s just my humble opinion though!
@sineptseggib35134 жыл бұрын
For me there is no pose where phil is clearly better than ronnie I think you could make an argument for ronnie in every pose in which is phil winning in your eyes And in the poses where ronnie is winning its clear as glass
@saragora33314 жыл бұрын
Ronnie had a unique body. Even when he was in bad shape he would smoke his opponents.
@BruceWayne-ri4wr2 жыл бұрын
Never smoked Dorian Yates Yates was nine and Zero versus Ronnie Coleman Dorian is the 🐐
@ravindersinghbura9918 Жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-ri4wrlmao dorian aint shit in front of ronnie . Ronnie smokes dorian in arms , quads , hamstrings , glutes , back , chest everything
@BruceWayne-ri4wr Жыл бұрын
@@ravindersinghbura9918 Dorian was 9 and 0 versus Ronnie Coleman the best Coleman ever finished when Dorian was in a show was fifth so don't give me this crap and Ronnie Coleman looked the same in '96 and '97 as he did when he won the Olympia and he couldn't touch Yates
@mikthe20044 жыл бұрын
In almost every photo of Ronnie he has distracting background. Almost all of Phil's photos have a plain dark background which makes him stand out better. I expected Ronnie to blow Phil away, but I'm surprised at how thick and full Phil looks. For me Phil's worst "pose" is standing relaxed - truly relaxed, not flexing like he is at 0:40. He looks really narrow and soft, and - dare I say it - small - when truly relaxed. When he poses all hell breaks loose. On these photos alone Phil could win? His quality is better. You'd need to see this comparison on stage and in person. I don't think it's as cut and dried as most people are making out??
@Skeme36917 күн бұрын
There's Mr Olympia then there's Ronnie Coleman.
@shot4shot134 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. The 90s fans will be butt hurt. 💪🥇
@elmeroranchero4 жыл бұрын
Phil has more aesthetic look but Coleman wins if you look at individual muscle groups
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@god9854 жыл бұрын
No way Phil wins the back lat spread 😂
@jacobbrassard27764 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is way wider. If you saw then on stage together Phil would be dwarfed
@sunildevs44854 жыл бұрын
@@jacobbrassard2776 phils back is way more detailed than ronnie's in back lat spread.... look at all those details in phil's back. Ronnie is wider but phil shows way more separations
@billgoldberg93474 жыл бұрын
A good back of a man is almost always determined for the wide, so if you dont have wide back no matte4 how detailed or thick is it because the guy with a wider back always looks more impresionant than a guy with narrow back
@mohammadsufian78904 жыл бұрын
Phil heath has the best front lat spread. The Details are insane. Ronnie looked soft compared to phil
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Ronnie's back in 03 looked soft. Phil easily had the better details and better conditioning. Plus Phil's lower lat thickness is insane.
@natepolidoro4565 Жыл бұрын
What's that lump in between Phil's upper traps?
@wisemansaid50093 жыл бұрын
Why you choose some photos of Phil Heath with dark black background huh???? It makes difference Buddy
@ChronicBackPainn4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i said in the post happened in the video lol. Phil can only win in photos because a tiny bit more condition but on stage he cant win Ronnie is like 40 pounds bigger hes taller and nearly as conditioned. If phil can nearly pose to a terrible ramy imagine coleman. I understand this is photo comparisons but on stage phil wouldnt get a single pose
@ChronicBackPainn4 жыл бұрын
@Pro life only so you think his gut was worse than phils lol and he was around .5 percent less lean than phil. Dehydration was never Ronnies strong suit but he'd mop the floor with phil. If i were wrong then why didnt phil beat jay his first few years if jay was always watery
@g12b-youssefmagdy324 жыл бұрын
@@ChronicBackPainn so you believe what they right when they say that ronnie was 300 pound😂😂😂 if that's true with the height difference ronnie would not be dwarfing anyone these days since roelly is 295 on stage and doesn't dwarf phil
@mayanksharma79524 жыл бұрын
Kai is also 40 lbs heavier than Phill and still he crushes him ..Phill is called gift for a reason
@kingryuga97104 жыл бұрын
Phil would easily win side triceps and Most muscular. The rest is a different story. I would still say Ronnie would win against Phil, but the size difference would not be as big as people are claim it to be.
@ChronicBackPainn4 жыл бұрын
@@kingryuga9710 use jay as a size reference ronnie made jay look not too big and jay made phil look not too big ronnie would dwarf phil. Also for the other guy roelly didnt weigh that much on average ronnie is like 275 and phil is 245
@anmolrajput46473 ай бұрын
You made ronnie like 6.1-6.2😂😂
@andrew98115wl3 ай бұрын
Phil is a customised F-Seriese Ford Bronco. Sleek, powerful, and you could tow a boat to the lake. Ronnie is a post-apocalyptic juggernaut, with oversized monster wheels, driven by a deranged bodybuilder in an iron mask who'll stop at nothing to crush his enemies.
@1USF2 жыл бұрын
Ronnie is bigger but phil definitely wins when taking Quality over Quantity in consideration. The Gift 🎁 is unbeatable
@VegAngel.3 ай бұрын
1-Cut Phil Heath body in photoshop. 2-Cut Damon Wayans head in photoshop. 3-Insert Damon Wayans head over Phil Heath's body in photoshop 4-You got a Ronnie Coleman Off-Season perfect picture 😎
@MrAvitom4 жыл бұрын
Phil had this one.
@tuahahussain91763 жыл бұрын
10:50 aside from the bubble gut Ronnie looks absolutely insane.
@cristianr.f6465 Жыл бұрын
if you look closely, Phill looks like a child
@travelreview59624 жыл бұрын
"A little distention in Phil's stomach, this could hurt him here" That is a perfect summary of Phil's career post 2014... if ya'll haven't heard Phil try to defend his midsection it's worth finding and watching just to see what it looks like when someone is in complete denial. 💁♂️🤦♂️
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
Sorry but to dock Phil for a little distention when's Ronnie's GUT declared it's independence in 03 is a little hypocritical.
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@theuncannyepicurean4 жыл бұрын
properrrrrrrrly executed brother.
@ibrahimshah71844 жыл бұрын
Propahlee baby please
@miguelroman42944 жыл бұрын
Let's have a pancake vs peanuts match up! Lol great video
@50daysago143 жыл бұрын
Coleman's glutes somehow seem more proportionate than Phil's. Beside that he has probably the best most muscular. But I guess that year didn't have good photos
@jacal4202 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation! This is the major difference or weakness if you want to call it that. One of the main separating factors I believe. I find it so nitpicky at that point, but that's what judges are there to do. It's just something about the natural flow (genetics) of Heath's glutes that don't match or compare to ronnie's.
@nyaahsee2 жыл бұрын
Honestly i disagree with MMM often, but this is exactly on point. Give Phil credit, he would steal a few poses.
@FanammekElsuso4 жыл бұрын
Glutes are the best bodypart of Ronnie, and even the best glutes in history
@xaviervega4683 жыл бұрын
In 03 and 04 they were overpowering. His glutes in 98, 99 and the 01 AC on the other hand are easily the best in history.
@nigeltsapi84174 жыл бұрын
U can't ignore those hamstrings of coleman
@jayx25144 жыл бұрын
The lighting is very different Specially in the back shots there's a glare on Ronnie's pics
@tinoseenihilistaoptimista25294 жыл бұрын
Very good channel,bro!! Please, Rich Gaspari vs Lee Priest Big Ramy (Arnold Classic Brasil 2015 maybe) vs Ronnie Coleman 2003 or Alexander Fedorov would be interesting too
@thebest-ce3pb Жыл бұрын
You took wrong pictures of colleman .
@natepolidoro45658 ай бұрын
The difference in clavicle width in the front relaxed is crazy.
@uniqutilities28314 жыл бұрын
No contest. This really didn't even need to be a video. But I'm glad it is ;)
@nicolaisb22 жыл бұрын
Best two bodybuilders ever
@nishantthakur33574 жыл бұрын
How does ronnie looks as if he has a 6 packs in the side tricep pose 😂
@tonysaourn9220 Жыл бұрын
There's no comparison between these two because they got there own unique look on there muscles.
@michaelangelokapirig61514 жыл бұрын
Ronnie owns every pose except Side triceps and Ab and thigh
@kameronrafaellee44444 жыл бұрын
this is a subjective opinion, i think phil has a cleaner more symmetrical physique but Coleman just brings freakiness every mass and conditioning wise...
@5.0_meatballmarinara3 жыл бұрын
All Phil’s pics are straight forward Ronnie’s are off to the side. Makes a difference
@mindgames502 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand Phil heath the man, but 2011 his physique is so detailed I don’t think it can ever be beat
@damfunk. Жыл бұрын
Ronnie flattens Phil. Phil can lean back all he wants in the back shots, that doesn’t mean he has lower lat insertions.
@brucele27764 жыл бұрын
1:43 lady speaking
@jayboy9275 Жыл бұрын
It’s unfair because Ronnie picture was taken from a side down angle
@nextgengaming0744 жыл бұрын
Phil won ab and thigh and most muscular. People who worship Ronnie are the ones living in the past
@realg.7731 Жыл бұрын
The cameras are better than the years Colman was competing but Phills chest
@juliuslim88532 жыл бұрын
I pick Phil. better lower back in the rear lats spread pose.
@nationiron2 жыл бұрын
Phil Heath 2011 for me, Coleman is and will always be the mass king. But 2011 Phil is hard to beat in an era, someone tell me who beats that version of Phil plz…
@smithgorrilugum45742 жыл бұрын
I know that it's considered irrelevant in body building competition but it would be interesting if you could dig up some stats on these comparisons. For instance height/weight and maybe some arm/leg measurements. Also how about some comparisons of standing relaxed? (that is when you can really see the "v-shape".
@vivificateurveridique1420 Жыл бұрын
How can Heath beat Ronnie???? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm9hWuibrGgoNU&ab_channel=qubas91
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie was 2 inches taller and about 30lbs heavier
@twillymantheoneandonly5587 Жыл бұрын
Phil Heath is the most genetically gifted bodybuilder in history. His clavicle width is his weakness. But nobody has better and rounder muscle bellys or better muscle separation.
@codylasik37393 жыл бұрын
Side by side on stage Coleman’s back width would overshadow Phil Heath. Phil does have hard back but so does Coleman. And side by side on stage the sheer width of Coleman’s back would seriously overshadow Phil
@justinfletcher7630 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to watching this but I can still clearly tell there's nothing I've every seen like 2003 Ronnie except like 09 Jay
@howy33333 жыл бұрын
I give you credit, Totally true that phil wins the back shots but coleman kills him in the front. The margin of victory puts ronnie ahead
@kewan2045 Жыл бұрын
You’d have to see them live side to side to understand the difference. Ronnie is soo dense
@shannonstickle47004 жыл бұрын
Phil does win in the back shots
@jacobbrassard27764 жыл бұрын
Only in the back double
@damenschneider27953 жыл бұрын
You are wayyyyy off on a few points. Way off. There was no stomach distention on either guy from the side relaxed. Phil’s glutes are better????? Incorrect. Ronnie had the best glutes ever.
@sayandas8007 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget you are comparing a 2003 photo with a 2013 photo. There is a big quality difference between those. Admit it. Big Ronn is always the best
@Mst92311 күн бұрын
I’m a heath fan, but no one, I MEAN NO ONE beats Ronnie’s most muscular. Never seen anything like it and it’s 2025 😮