Frankford Arsenal X-10 Update (Summer 2022)

[@leandroogavadepaulasouza5012]

Keep us updated on this beauty, Tks bro

[@michaelswan2458]

QUESTION: What prevents the primer dial from actuating, and potentially doubling up, if there is not a case being ran through the press in a single position of the shell plate? …is the primer dial case-actuated? …is there a primer dump if a shell is not ran in the shell plate? I’m very curious Thanks for all the great vids, Gavin!! Keep it up!!!

[@ligngood3787]

I can't wait! The priming system sounds amazing with visual check capability. I really respect the taking the time to get it right, but it sure is starting to seem like vaporware. I believe I've been on the waiting list for a year and a half or more now. Can't even remember. We've been waiting a LOOOOOOONG time now and promised dates keep passing and the price keeps rising. Already have a super 1050 and other progressive presses, but this looks the best short of a Mark 7. I hope you can at least release some to beta testers soon!!

[@coreymclennan6008]

@gavintoobe are we any closer to a release date for these?

[@1clnsdime1]

Hope they get this out around Christmas. Been wanting to upgrade the loadmaster for a couple years. I'm between this and a 750.

[@kenferraro7900]

I'm in the same boat. I'm waiting to upgrade from my loadmaster to this or a 750. I'm glad they are not rushing these out and beta testing like Sig does with their hand guns....waiting sucks though

[@mike3825]

I have been waiting for this release since early spring 2022! I was told July 2022 before these would be available to the public; it is now September 2022 and it seems they are no closer to releasing these bad boys! When can we expect these? The price of ammo is just untenable and, although reloading material is also pricey, the delta still leans towards reloading as the best savings.

[@joelgeiser675]

Exactly….when are we going to see these machines o. The shelf??!!

[@ancientorder4645]

Aaaand....here we are 10 months later, April 2023, and still no X-10. This is probably beyond a few minor tweaks for QC before rolling out to the public. Seems more like "back to the drawing board" kind of delay.

[@lililililililili8667]

​@@ancientorder4645 I wanna hold out on getting a progressive set up until this comes out but it doesn't look very promising when we are well into 2023 and the thing was supposed to release a year ago

[@dakotareid1566]

Yeah I just checked still not out yet either

[@lililililililili8667]

@@dakotareid1566 I think you can get them on optics planet but they ship in batches

[@joelgeiser675]

When??? Everyone is tired of waiting for them to hit the shelf

[@chadjones7722]

Will be buying one as soon as available....

[@MikeStJohn-du5ue]

Excellent, I am waiting to get one of these!!

[@snowman3219]

Awesome! Looking forward to your full review. I’m a Dillon fan boy, but this is very interesting. 👍

[@capteod]

After sending a question to Frankford Arsenal about the delivery of the X-10 press I received the message in response today, and it seems to counter-dict the data in your video. On 8/9/2022 2:00 PM, Frankford Arsenal Case Email wrote: > Currently there is not set release date on these units. We have an estimated first stock in November so it is more then likely around that time but for now that is just an estimation with no set date. If this is the case, what is your object in having the release on KZbin that your employee was said the release was coming up in the next few months. WHY is your company publishing false information to the public. Are you just acting as having a product, to reduce the demand on the manufacturer of the APEX press?

[@kalindanley2843]

Yes we have questions for Mike so we are dropping a comment below lol. any update on release? Its no longer "(Summer 2022)". any insight or information on when? people be excited! Also, Gavin, youve been using it yes? any updates on your experience?

[@vacutube]

It's now near ending October 2022, any word on when the press my be shipping?

[@briancowan4318]

Since I use a Hornady Lock-n-Load AP, I'm waiting for the bullet feeders to come out. And yes, I'm saving right now...

[@archerpride]

can you move powder to station 6 so that you can use an aftermarket bullet feed like an MBF and still have powder check and separate seat and crimp?

[@lilsnoop6035]

Curious what the dimensions are on this unit mounted to the top of the case feeder. Looks pretty tall.

[@jamiestephens428]

Maximum cartridge size? At least 06 length I hope.

[@calgarysparky]

I do have a question, can the powder drop be moved from the station its in? I find that dedicating a station to just case expansion a wasted space. Would love to put the powder drop into position 6, check in 7, bullet feed 8, bullet seat 9, final crimp in 10. Still the front runner to replace my 550B.

[@jamesa5720]

I wondered the same thing as I don't want to combine seat and crimp in one die...did you ever get an answer? I do see in this video, however, that the proprietary bullet feeder (in development) is going to feed and seat in one station which would solve the problem as configured. After all these delays, I would have long ago brought this back to the good old USA for production and just raised the prices which they did anyway. People will pay for quality. Come on Frankford, a month or two delay is one thing, but two years or more is ridiculous and is costing them more than it would to just have produced here anyway.

[@calgarysparky]

@@jamesa5720 no, never did. I've been following on the FB page and I've been told something is coming to address this, but that's all. So we will see. Forcing a product on you to get what you own to do what you want will turn ppl off. I already have a bullet feeder and if I can't use it with powder check, this press will be off the list. They are having teething pains, but FA has been right on top of them and making changes asap. So there's that, heh.

[@JeffinTD]

Not combining powder drop and neck expansion seemed like a waste to me, too. I wonder if there was a patent issue. You’d think it could also have been built so station 1 does more than insert, say insert/decap.

[@nichtelse]

so why don't they add to the peeping holes in the primer feed a control (optical?) mechanism to check no primer or primer with an (acoustic) warning? 🤔

[@oddsparrow8522]

I think that is one of the add on tools they are talking about - that was my first thought also

[@garyandtricia1]

Great vid considering that this is still in development.

[@Dayattherange]

I would also prefer they get it right before general release. Wish I could be a tester 😁😁

[@misiomor]

The depriming situation here reminds me of the old joke about NASA's 1M$ project of a ballpen working in zero gravity. The Soviets used pencils instead. Decapping on a progressive (fully - from a case to finished product) press is a losing battle. First it means a lot of rubbish sprinkled generously over all the precision mechanics of the press, shortening its lifespan. Regular guys like their equipment to last. Secundo - there is still a lot of gunk (possibly even wet and/or with sand) in the primer pocket after decapping. This may lead to hang-fires and other mishaps. There are excellent choices of dedicated depriming equipment, some even by Frankford Arsenal. For me it is a must, especially with wet tumbling / ultrasonic cleaning. Rinsing and drying brass with old primers still in - never again.

[@JeffinTD]

Yeah. I like to keep my 1050 clean and well lubed. Since switching to decapping prior to wet pin tumbling, the 1050 runs longer and smoother between cleanings. A Lee APP fed by a Dillon feeder and driven by an air cylinder will decap quickly and efficiently- and when things wear out from gritty cases, parts (and the whole APP) are dirt cheap.

[@mindwreckRC]

awesome update. I was wondering what was goign on with this press last week. good to see its close to release. would love to be a guinea pig as a engineer

[@keimolantio]

What's new in 2023? Release date maybe?

[@benbaker2893]

I was going the Dillion 550 route. But this has paused me . More for your money. I'll wait and see.

[@deankaras8359]

I own one and it’s terrific but… does have a flaw in the metering dial on the powder measure, so loose that it turns on it’s own while reloading. I solved this by removing the metering cap and replacing it with a jam nut once charge is set. The rest is amazing

[@flynic3]

I have been anxiously awaiting for the FX-10, and have had money in hand for over a year now. Super stoked to hear it will be available soon and curious what it takes to be a part of the pilot program? Will .300aac be an option I could purchase with the FX-10? Would an after market bullet feeder similar to the MrBulletfeeder rotating tubes work for now until Frankford Arsenal releases their version? I greatly appreciate the video and update…

[@ArtVanAuggie]

Where did the name Frankford Arsenal come from? In the late '60s (Vietnam) we had 7.62x39 sniper ammo from the Frankford Arsenal in Philadelphia. It had purple sealer. We also had red from Rock Island. That was a government facility though.

[@montekernell8779]

It's just a name they registered like Rock Island and Springfield Armory, no relation to the military arsenals.

[@ArtVanAuggie]

@@montekernell8779 Shame, they made some really accurate 7.62 Nato sniper ammo too. That was a really big complex in NE Philly.

[@sherlock1895]

I like this reloader. My current reloader is the Hornady L n L AP. I like its simplicity as a novice reloader. My concern is whether or not the X-10 will be too complicated for me. All of the demos I’ve watched have been done by extremely knowledgeable, experienced reloaders. Just not certain what to do? Cheers!

[@deankaras8359]

I graduated from a lock an load to an X10. The principles are all the same but like the LnL it’s got quirks. I’ve had mine a month now and am getting past the learning curve of what to do when it jams. I love the case feeder works soooo much better and having 2 decapper stations is great. Now for the downside. The ram mechanism is so beefy and strong that it is tearing up the much less robust indexing mechanism. Happens if jammed up and just put to much pressure on the handle trying to free it up. It’s an easy part swap to fix but be prepared to wait on hold hours to talk to the SINGLE technician on duty for customer support, and then they want pictures to prove it’s broken. I might consider waiting a few months till they come out with a fix.

[@sherlock1895]

@@deankaras8359 that’s good information and I thank you for it. Right now I’m just going to wait and see what others review. Cheers!

[@BjarneLaursen-fo7hf]

Im looking to upgrade to this beauty... but been mainly pistol shooting for bulk, it seems to be quit a hasle changing back and forth between calibers (9mm, 38SA, 45 ACP, .357 mag) what is the experience with that?

[@boallmon324]

Sounds good if the price is right

[@llee02045]

This FA Progressive machine seems great, and cost waaay less than my Dillon 1050. What drives me crazy is the Primer stage on my Dillon. Just like this FA rep stated. I've had primers not load into the primer pocket, and would have powder everywhere after the powder stage.

[@Factory400]

China vs USA Communism vs Freedom. Choose wisely.

[@JeffinTD]

Yeah. On the Dillon it is critical to keep the inside of the primer magazine and the bore in the primer slide clean, and a weight (say a 45-70 case) on the primer rod.

[@shirolee]

Definitely excited for this! Been waiting but I know it will be worth the wait. I'd rather that they fixed all the issues before the released it. Frankford will be selling these like hot cakes!

[@clinicabaldi]

How many minutes does it takes to change a caliber from Small to Large primers?

[@tylerwilson7898]

What's the pilot program and how does one become a part of it?

[@thatguyoverthere2288]

Do you think this would make a good dedicated prep press instead of something more expensive like a Dillon CP2000

[@Giftied]

can you do a video explaining the difference of single stage process vs progressive and when you would use either one?

[@zaldyvar]

Been waiting ….

[@joecat101]

I just can't wrap my head around how you can trim & chamfer cases in this press or where all of the brass trimmings & debris ends up.

[@JeffinTD]

I would assume like Dillon’s trimmer, a vacuum hose attaches?

[@johnbegley86]

I can't wait until components are affordable again so I can get back to reloading.

[@davidmeier8397]

How have you found the consistency of the X-10 so far? I'm struggling with variances in COL, as well as powder charge, on my LNL.

[@mattself6078]

When will this be available? I was told via email mail w customer service it will be Fall 22 earliest n possibly 2023 w way supply chain is looking..... he never gave a date in video, just curious when I should have 1000$ + in my hand, I don't wanna miss it n have to wait till 2023 till they're back in stock.... assuming they release before 2023.....

[@flynic3]

I am in the same boat and wondering the same thing… It would be nice to have at least an estimated release date, so I can have money ready to purchase!

[@forthehellofit5544]

Awesome! Nice looking machine!

[@kenhnsy]

Just bought the RCBS because I got tired of waiting for the next ship date.

[@chrisvonahnen3578]

I'm hoping that a magnum rifle version of this amazing reloader will become available. I need to be able to reload 300PRC, so that is a showstopper for me, sadly...

[@ronaldhollowell7974]

Will it have the same warranty and service as Dillon?

[@bryco32]

Where are these manufactured?

[@erwinpurigay7417]

How about in 223 trimming??

[@slyblood85]

They got any updates on that new F1 single stage press?

[@TexasTrained]

time will tell

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Price point?

[@shaunoleksy]

How did Michael get so smart?

[@jawsmod]

I talked to Franford a few days ago and they told me it would not be till early next year. I called today again to verify and was told end of August. I called back to ask about shell plates and got someone else and was told not till next year for the press. WTF what is the REAL story. Was this vid loaded prematurely?

[@jawsmod]

Update: I got tired of waiting and purchased the Dillon RL 1100. It is a dream! I also own a 550 and 650. X-10 may end up being a good press, but I did not want to take a chance on an unproven product. Maybe I could have saved a $1K or I may be purchasing a $1K x-10 boat anchor. I didn't want to take the chance. Sorry FA you teased me for too long (2 years).

[@jawsmod]

Update 2: I may have to eat CROW. I was able to order one of the first 50 today. I'll get a chance to check it out and compare it to my RL1100.

[@jawsmod]

Update 3: Mine was a dud. Sent it back to FA. Too many issues. Glad I got a 1100.

[@stani2007]

I'm curious if they have a shell plate dedicate it to 38 super comp?

[@anitacoco7542]

Why couldn't I just use my hornady bullet feeder? It's just a case activated die.

[@tylermonster6044]

Gun license When the constitution was written, and long afterwards there was not any gun licenses anywhere in United States. There is no mention of people being confined to the State they live in order to carry a firearm, and everyone at that time brou+ght their firearm everywhere they wanted to go including across state lines. Outside of my home is anywhere in the United States as a legal citizen. Because the Supreme Court stated text , history and tradition is to be used, any legal citizen of the United States should be allowed to carry their firearm anywhere in the United States without a license or permit. Constitutional carry should be the law of the land. Please pass this message on to others .

[@montekernell8779]

Didn't take your meds today?

[@alansikes8195]

Where is this press made?

[@lars-erikbtkerpetersen9466]

Think they use a red flag with 5 stars at that location - unfortunately... Crossing fingers for the 100% QC of each press... 🙏🍀🤞🍀🙏

[@carsenegame]

From the website Q+A “All of our products are top of the line for their respective category. We conduct an extensive supply chain review throughout our robust sourcing process to insure we deliver the best products for the best price. Our products are designed, engineered, and developed in Columbia, MO and produced in China.”

[@edwardkawecki8101]

China

[@marklovell7481]

Show potential customers the quality of ammo this machine is capable of producing.

[@brandonyoung3068]

I agree I would love to hear your opinion on ammo results. Would you consider using it for "sort of precision" ammo? Or really just for plinking rounds?

[@davidtyson679]

So is it setup for 9mm or .308? Or will it do both at the same time?

[@smallgulp]

Any caliber you want

[@thejack3432]

Will they be shipping primers also? If not, I don't see the point in getting a new press.

[@lars-erikbtkerpetersen9466]

😭😭😭

[@montekernell8779]

If you can't find primers now, you're not trying or you are too cheap to pay market price.

[@MrApru1]

Almost February 2023 and not available yet. I bet they found something wrong with the design needing to be fixed and remanufactured.

[@mitchellhoff9029]

Auto drive?

[@johnq.public5911]

SHOW IT IN USE! Speak and explain during the demonstration!

[@andrewschliewe6392]

He's done a whole video on this press, plus showing it in the progressive press showdown

[@lawrencehudson9939]

I am really excited about this press and all the thought that has gone into it. I am looking forward to seeing the bullet feed system. I cast my bullets and would love a system that will feed powder coated bullets from 32 to 45 caliber.

[@thomaspeikert5270]

Hey Gavin I got a odd question for you so I have been in the market for a new hunting/ accuracy style rifle chassis I have done some research and I have taken a liking to the foundation stocks and the McMillan stocks for both of the purposes I wish to fill. My big question is witch one do you think is better seeing as they are made of two different materials and any other information that could maybe help me out in finding a new stock

[@thomaspeikert5270]

I also forgot the manners prs style chassis as well

[@Ultimatereloader]

What kind of weight are you looking for?

[@thomaspeikert5270]

Well I would like to take it out hunting yet but the current rifle I have is around 10.8 lbs unloaded I am a larger stature person so I will not be too phased by a heavier gun I just don’t want to lug a 20 lb gun through the woods to go hunting u know but I mean I can always get in better shape

[@perchowski3021]

I'd get a Masterpiece arms hybrid chassis rifle. Has ability to be tuned with weight kit and if you order one with a switchlug, ability to swap barrels/calibers easily.

[@thomaspeikert5270]

That is also a good idea but I was trying to stick with something a little more light weight and with a more angled pistol grip

[@Argentum7756]

Is this machine made in China? The Covid lockdowns there would explain why the rollout has been so delayed.

[@ZhuJo99]

For a price, definitely. I’m really curious about warranty and availability of replacement parts. If it’s not on par with Dillon than well…

[@erik4819]

That primer feeding system is a huge upgrade over my Dillon RL1100. I really hope this machine is legit cause I can buy 3 of these for one the cost of 1 RL 1100

[@oddsparrow8522]

Erik - where do you find the price ?

[@seanpenn4405]

@@oddsparrow8522 the Frankford arsenal website

[@jawsmod]

What primer feed issues are you having? I'm a new RL100 user and have not had any issues loading 223.

[@warrenbierwirth5076]

I’m interested in how the powder drop compares to other brands that use the same style. I am always checking to make sure my press is consistent on its drop but seems to drift. I am interested into converting over to this model

[@montekernell8779]

It's going to be the same as any other powder measure of this style. The drift you experience comes from the user and and how the particular powder you are using packs with each throw.

[@dandurocher1648]

No auto drive*yet*... Excuuuuuuse me?

[@1keithesq]

I don't know about this press. I'm not getting my hopes up.

[@dakotareid1566]

No update and it’s July 2023

[@scottinohio701]

How much $$$$$$$$$$ ??????

[@BillyBob-wl1nu]

1199.99 with case feeder it’s on their website

[@scottinohio701]

@@BillyBob-wl1nu That is great news!!!!! THX!!!!!!!

[@ZhuJo99]

So, in order to use powder check, I would need to seat and crimp on same station so it requires proprietary bullet feeder? Then, what exactly 10 stations solve? Exactly, nothing. Bad engineering. Also, due to the usable height your need to go waaaay down with the handle. This is really lacking and after say, 1000 rounds you will have enough.

[@larryd1296]

The press is a piece of crap. Ask me I own one. I may be ok for pistol loads, but it sucks for anything else.

[@kuronyan3006Ackley]

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