Frankie Martinez - Problems W/ Current Dance Culture, Mastery, Dance as Meditation | Ep. 8

[@manguerrero6220]

I just wanted some tips on body movement and now I wanna become a zen master

[@sauceros]

That's what happens when you meet the master🔥

[@paulgora6503]

There are so many gems in this listen.. this dude is outside of this planet

[@Nuevolutionsalsa]

Well he sees things from a whole different perspective and doesn't follow the status quo which makes him a unique individual desperately needed in the scene.

[@sauceros]

Yessir I'd label it our best interview yet!

[@stephenpeacock8592]

Well done for getting this interview, Frankie really pushed the boundaries with Salsa, he's lived his dream whether people like him or not.

[@thomassosa1183]

Made my way here from Instagram. Excited to learn more 🙌🏽

[@sauceros]

Welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy the content!

[@lh8558]

Listening partially through at this point. Just want start the comments with this: It's happening to bachata, too. And we all know it.

[@lixmedina]

The difference. Of the culture and dance industry hobbyists/capitalists. Frankie Martinez interrupts todays shallow world.

[@raikidd]

I listened for about an hour and twenty minutes. I guess I was expecting a discussion focused more on actual dancing but the guy was going from tangent to tangent and it was mostly a monologue.

[@sauceros]

We do hope to have Frankie on as his expertise is greatly appreciated by us. This discussion was a great conversation for us as it gave much more meaning to dance. We hope the rest of our content is to your liking. Thanks for your comment

[@heytheist9349]

It's not even about anything either. 25 minutes in and all I've heard is an old man complain about how music nowadays isn't "worth s**t", kids don't respect their elders, and dancers want everything spoonfed. I love the man's dancing but his philosophy is blithering nonsense. He seems to believe salsa and dance are the axis around which all must turn.

[@Bolivia2010100]

26 minutes in and it Isa monolog A great insightful monolog I don't agree 100% but it's for sure thought provoking

[@animeavatar2438]

has a lot of great stuff to say but this guy is a yap MACHINE

[@sauceros]

Man's a G

[@salxonico]

Salsa was the Latin term for Swagger, style, finesse NOT a genre.

[@llRoyalty]

47? wow I couldn’t tell

[@Anticlericanaille]

Great interview, full of truths... But he's really wrong about martial arts! The problem is not "modern vs traditional" but "commercial/money driven vs learning a new art", which also comes down to the teacher and the student (and the school/gym/dojo/...). Hell, he talks about karate kid and you can see in it that two dojos can produce two different kinds of fighters (and the new series shows that you can be a bully in a capitalist society even if you were a victim before). The karate kid era is also the McDojo era of commercial, mall places where you could get a black belt in a year or so without having learned anything substantial. I've met many "traditional martial artists" who were assholes, arrogant and bullies because the sensei is so omnipotent (almost like a guru), they never test their art in a real fight and they think they're better than the common man. On the other hand, you've got so many humble coaches and students in BJJ/Muay thai/boxing/... classes, and so many arrogant people who were humblED by just getting beaten up by smaller yet stronger students and learning to respect others, the teacher, their fellow students and the discipline required to learn a new art. You don't need a rigid hierarchy to have a good philosophy. It's a lot of phantasy too, because there was a lot of abuse in old TMA schools as well and all of that stuff from cinemas helped these frauds continue their abuse and lies because it was envelopped in a kind of mystical, oriental, "mysterious" fog.

[@ETiDeQuenVesSendo]

My impressions 12:00 As a science teacher and hobbist dancer, hearing this guy speaking about teaching is like hearing a madman. The karate teacher slapping students in the general direction. Taking two years to get the Aha! moment. This guy thinks that everybody wants to feel like a shaolin monk living the learning life. Most people just want to dance, enjoy and look cooler.

[@Sephiroth0232]

That's interesting, for me getting the Aha! moment by feeling the rhythm on basic steps instead of just counting the music was very rewarding, it didn't feel mechanical anymore, I think you might be assuming that he's trying to convert everyone to his philosophy. I feel like he's just speaking for people who are open to his mentality and do look for what he's sharing, neither are wrong or right, it's up to everyone to do what they like..

[@sauceros]

We agree that most people just want to look cooler at first, but dance is much deeper than that. To look cool, we have to question what "cool" means and where the idea comes from, if we don't we end up not developing a deep connection with dance. This podcast is for those who seek something deeper, something meaningful and fulfilling, it's not for everyone. The majority of people are not ready to understand these concepts and that's okay, but that doesn't mean that it makes the man a madman. Frankie's philosophy might sound outlandish and a bit outdated, but the intention that Frankie has is one that not many teachers have and lack, and it's something we enjoyed putting out for the public to see. I myself benefited a lot from this conversation and found it to be one of the most meaningful conversations I've had.

[@Izzy31689]

It’s clear that you don’t have a deep relationship with or respect for dance. However, many of us do. If this doesn’t resonate with you, that’s because it’s not for you!

[@joer1402]

Sometimes it’s okay to just dance, and enjoy it. That’s usually why people dance. Sorry, feeling some serious overthinking here.

[@BozhidarGugushev]

Choose whatever resonates with your preferences. I'm grateful for Frankie's presence; without educators like him, the risk of over-commercialization would loom large, potentially leading to the art of dance and especially SOCIAL DANCE being long forgotten.

[@joer1402]

@@BozhidarGugushev fair enough, I am probably in the wrong room here. To each his own.

[@satyakipilates]

It's ok to just dance, it's ok to enjoy it & there are problems in all dance communities too. Having said that it's always good to know what's going on.

[@timobaader5570]

Omg stop saying like

[@sauceros]

Lol sorry my friend, it's our first year working on this podcast

[@sauceros]

Will work on it tho👌