Frantz Fanon, Stokely Carmichael, and the Roots of Anti-Zionism: Paul Berman

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@DonQuickZote
@DonQuickZote 2 ай бұрын
“There’s something almost childish in the settler colonialist argument.” Slight understatement!
@GabrielNoahBrahm
@GabrielNoahBrahm 3 ай бұрын
Berman's the best. Kudos to Quillette for getting this out to a wide audience.
@bennyamon3043
@bennyamon3043 3 ай бұрын
Studied fanon as a radical undergrad at uc Berkeley in the 200s and have since had my own process of growing into a nuanced perspective on Israel. This was a great listen.
@sondratuckfelt8672
@sondratuckfelt8672 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the intelligent exposure of antisemitism
@AndyJarman
@AndyJarman 3 ай бұрын
Isn't a two state solution what Israel attempted when it pulled out of the formerly Egyptian Gaza in 2007? Didn't Israel pull out all the Jews who had moved to Gaza, and if the territory self rule? Look where that got them.
@Fsgs233
@Fsgs233 3 ай бұрын
Oops - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip?wprov=sfti1
@smokenfire
@smokenfire 3 ай бұрын
​@@Fsgs233border control isn't occupation.
@Fsgs233
@Fsgs233 3 ай бұрын
@@smokenfire yeah. A blockade isn’t border control…
@Fsgs233
@Fsgs233 3 ай бұрын
@@LeeGee the blockade isn’t a controversial historical fact. If Wikipedia isn’t your style you could try to read a book
@sheilamacdougal4874
@sheilamacdougal4874 3 ай бұрын
​@@Fsgs233No, Israel was not attempting a 2 state solution when it withdrew from Gaza. No Palestinian would ever accept a miniscule bantustan in Gaza cut off from the West Bank as a solution. Indeed, Sharon and Netanyahu aimed precisely to *prevent* a Palestinian state by separating Gaza politically from the West Bank, which is also why Netanyahu controversially indulged Hamas’s financing in recent years. As he explained at the time, that was the best way to *prevent* a Palestinian state, as it would ensure the political separation of Gaza from the West Bank. However, the Oslo Accords did set out a final stage to be negotiated after staged withdrawals of the IDF from the territories, and that was broadly understood by both sides as intending to lead to a Palestinian state. Hamas and PIJ responded with a then unprecedented wave of murder of Israeli civilians, in reaction to which their popularity surged to around 40% among Palestinians. This was followed by the bloodletting of the 2nd intifada, when over 1000 Israeli civilians were slaughtered. Hamas popularity then soared past the PLO and they won the 2006 election, burying for good any possibility of a 2 state solution.
@justinmalinowski
@justinmalinowski 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative, and occasionally humorous, interview. Excellent work, as usual! 👏
@chrishaughton_1963
@chrishaughton_1963 3 ай бұрын
Anti Zionism is also different in kind to other “anti-colonial” movements in that the existence of Israel disproves the (current) story of Islam. This, naturally, has a quite significant impact on the billions of Muslims on our planet.
@prometheusunbound
@prometheusunbound 3 ай бұрын
​@@LeeGee Colonise and conversion are two very different things. Where the Chinese Jews colonised by Jews or African Jews hmm
@NJIT22
@NJIT22 3 ай бұрын
Colonization by Islam, included stripping native populations of cultural and linguistic heritage, was one of the most significant imperialist expansions in the world history. If not for Ferdousi, Iranians probably would spoke Arabic and even today Janjevad marauders killing blacks Africans to exploit their resources and expend their territories
@chrishaughton_1963
@chrishaughton_1963 3 ай бұрын
@@NJIT22 …. a fact that is overlooked in our Western, Muslim Brotherhood -funded universities….
@sondratuckfelt8672
@sondratuckfelt8672 2 ай бұрын
@@chrishaughton_1963 Right. The deeds to the land are given to the Jews as signed by God.
@n4049
@n4049 3 ай бұрын
Hebron today is what it looks like when the oppressed persecuted minority finely has the strength to protect itself after centuries of persecutions. Looking at it and seeing "colonialism" is completely twisted.
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 3 ай бұрын
Shalhevet Pass was a Jewish infant shot in the head in her carriage in Hebron by the forever aggrieved ishmaelites in 2000. Agree with you completely
@outandabout4812
@outandabout4812 3 ай бұрын
How about no massacres of Jews in Hebron in 1929 Jewish community of Hebron there for thousands of years.
@bellringrrakascaleywalez3240
@bellringrrakascaleywalez3240 3 ай бұрын
The puritans were persecuted in England. Many of the earliest afrikaaners were persecuted in Europe. So they went to other countries and became conquerors. That's what the Zionists did. They weren't persecuted in Palestine, but in Europe and Russia. If they had risen up and conquered some part of Europe or Russia, then you would have a point. But instead they found a weaker and less organized population to overwhelm in order to conquer and become independent. They rose up and conquered a bunch of people who had conquered no one, and had themselves been conquered and mistreated for centuries.
@davidschalit907
@davidschalit907 3 ай бұрын
​@@bellringrrakascaleywalez3240 Yes, of course. Islam came to the land 'between the river and the sea' in complete peace. 😅 Zionists shouldn't have been dreaming about Zion, but rather Belarus & Galicia. Intellectual.
@n4049
@n4049 3 ай бұрын
@AnonymousWatcher37-f6q the opressed minority is the Jews. Still persecuted in their own land. Only they have an army to defend themselves now
@donovanleighton5700
@donovanleighton5700 3 ай бұрын
To what extent was Stokly Carmichael being influenced, played, or directed by Russian intelligence services in his later years?
@liteenergy4843
@liteenergy4843 3 ай бұрын
Comparing Israel to a colonialist project is like saying the American Indians are colonialists. The American Indians like the Jews have been displaced a good deal. But they also have come back a good step as well. We now have nations within a nation. Ok, Israel is a totally independent nation. But that doesn't make it a colonialist project.
@mrfarax4944
@mrfarax4944 3 ай бұрын
White people taking brown people land you right doesn't look like colonialism at all
@John-c3u9o
@John-c3u9o 2 ай бұрын
So he admits that from the point of view of a Palestinian farmer it might "look like" colonialism. But that's naive - because they have failed to undertand that it is the ancient Jewish homeland and there has been a continuous Jewish presence. Well, Jews or ancient Israelites never lived in the coastal regions where Tel Aviv or Haifa are, or in the Sinai or Gaza. So I guess according to Mr. Berman they have to give those regions back because they have no claim to them. Also according to Mr. Berman, most of the world map has to be re-written to restore territory to the descendants of the ancient inhabitants. Number 1 on the list would be the United States, including Mr. Berman's own home, which clearly some Indian tribe has a claim to, for whom the land it is on has ancient religious significance. It would be "naive" of him given this history to resent having his home taken away.
@Kurtlane
@Kurtlane 3 ай бұрын
"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket." - Eric Hoffer Intersectionalism is almost 100% racket.
@aryebognar6663
@aryebognar6663 3 ай бұрын
6:50 Where do tenant farmers expect to inherit their landlords' land except in Israel?
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Islamists protests around the world show that this conflict is not about land.
@liteenergy4843
@liteenergy4843 3 ай бұрын
This is a partial list of travelers to Israel in the 19th century. All of them stated that the land was desolate and practically uninhabited. Most of the "Palestinians" came to Israel after the Jews started to settle and restore it. 1840 Lord Shaftsbury, Anthony Ashley Cooper 7th earl of Shaftesbury coined the phrase, "A land without a people, for a people without a land." 1697 Thomas Shaw, English traveler Palestine was, "lacking in people to till the soil". 18th century, French Count Constantine Francois Volney an 18th century historian. Called Palestine "ruined", "desolate", observed that "many parts had lost almost all their peasantry". Complained that the Ottomans listed larger populations. Perhaps people didn't live there because of Ottoman taxation policies. "The traveler meets with nothing but houses in ruins, cisterns rendered useless, and fields abandoned." 1816 James Silk Buckingham, English traveler Jaffa had "all the appearances of a poor village and every port of it that we saw was of corresponding meaness" Ramle was, "as throughout the greater part of Palestine, the ruined portion seemed more extensive than that which was inhabited" 1836 British nobleman Alexander William Crawford Lindsay "All Judea, except the hills of Hebron and the vales immediately about Jerusalem, are desolate and barren." 1840 Lord Shaftsbury, Anthony Ashley Cooper 7th earl of Shaftesbury coined the phrase, "A land without a people, for a people without a land." 1852 English Clergyman Henry Burgess Whitaker Churton "Soon after leaving the Mount of Olives the country becomes an entire desolation for eighteen miles of mountain, until we reached the plain of the Jordan... That plain itself is now, in great measure, bare as a desert" 1853 Reverend Arthur G. H. Hollingsworth wrote an extensive report on the desolation of the land 1857 British Council in Palestine "The country is to a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population." 1857 Herman Melville, author of 'Moby Dick' "No grace of decay - no ivy - the unleavened nakedness of desolation" 1860 Henry Baker Tristram "the north and south of the Sharon plain land is going out of cultivation and whole villages are rapidly disappearing from the face of the earth. Since 1838, no less than 20 villages there have been thus erased from the map and the stationary population extirpated." 1869 Mark Twain Quotations on the desolation of the area are extensive. 1888 Sir John William Dawson 1888 English Clergyman Reverend Samuel Manning described the Plain of Sharon as "a land without inhabitants." ---------------------- The word 'palestine' comes from the ancient Hebrew word 'plishtim' which means 'invader'. By their own admission and use of the word, they are the invaders.
@mikesassoon4133
@mikesassoon4133 3 ай бұрын
Excellently put. It is curious that this is not well known nor discussed in today's discourse on the conflict.
@liteenergy4843
@liteenergy4843 3 ай бұрын
@@mikesassoon4133 Yes. People aren't getting the real history of the area. Here is some more info: Most Palestinians who are now in Israel, came during the first half of the 20th century, for better job opportunities and perhaps as interlopers taking over and taking claim and credit for the improvements the Jews were making to Israel. This is reflected in their surnames which are from other and surrounding countries. One of the most common Palestinian surnames is Al-Masri. In Arabic, Al-Masri literally means "the Egyptian." You'll also see Palestinians named Hourani, from Houran in southern Syria, - Tzurani, from Tyre in southern Lebanon, - Zrakawi, from Mazraka in Jordan, - Hijazi from the Hijaz province of the Arabian peninsula, - Mughrabi, from the Maghreb, - Elmisri, from Egypt, - Chalabi, Syrian, - Mugrabi, North Africa, - Habash, Ethiopia. Many other names point to the Palestinian's true hereditary and geographical origins.
@MrNiaman
@MrNiaman 3 ай бұрын
Your comment is a glaring example of the kind of misguided reasoning that perpetuates harmful narratives about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. To suggest that because some regions, like the countryside in America or parts of Europe, are "empty," they should be invaded is not just absurd; it’s a grotesque oversimplification of complex geopolitical realities. First and foremost, the idea that a lack of population density justifies invasion is fundamentally flawed. Should we then consider invading vast stretches of land in the American Midwest or the Australian outback simply because they are sparsely populated? Such a proposition would be met with outrage, and rightly so. The land belongs to those who live on it and has historical significance to its inhabitants. This argument not only strips people of their rights but also reduces them to mere numbers, disregarding their histories, cultures, and identities. Your attempt to frame the situation in Hebron as a defensive measure by an "oppressed minority" is equally misguided. The historical context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is steeped in violence and displacement. Palestinians are not invaders; they are the indigenous people of the land facing ongoing occupation and systemic oppression. To equate their struggle for self-determination with a simplistic narrative of “colonialism” reflects a profound misunderstanding of both history and humanity. Moreover, invoking 19th-century travelers' accounts to justify modern political claims is intellectually dishonest. These accounts were made in a vastly different context and do not align with the complexities of today’s socio-political landscape. Using such selective historical references only serves to perpetuate myths that erase the rich history and culture of the Palestinian people. Your comment also dangerously ignores the consequences of endorsing such a perspective. It contributes to a climate where racism and xenophobia can flourish, legitimizing the harassment and disenfranchisement of those deemed "other." If we apply your logic universally, we open the door to a world where might makes right, a world where any group could justify invasion based on arbitrary criteria like population density. This is not only morally repugnant but also sets a dangerous precedent for future conflicts. In conclusion, your argument exemplifies a troubling mindset that seeks to rationalize oppression through historical revisionism and simplistic analogies. It is imperative to engage with these issues critically and compassionately, recognizing the rights and dignity of all peoples involved rather than reducing them to mere statistics or historical footnotes. The fight for justice is not just about land; it’s about acknowledging humanity, respecting histories, and striving for a future where all voices are heard and valued.
@gfys756
@gfys756 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrNiamanlol nice chatgpt 😂🤦🏿‍♂️
@JonFrumTheFirst
@JonFrumTheFirst 2 ай бұрын
Throught the 20th century there was a thread of anti-semitism in urban blacks. They moved into Jewish owned apartment building - owned by Jews who were often immigrants themselves - tore them apart, and then blamed the Jewish landlord for wanting the rent paid. "They don't take care of the building' was them misdirecting their own failure to keep the building they lived in clean and in order. The same buildings had often housed the Irish before them, and had been perfectly good. And owners of property they've invested their hard earned money in don't deliberately let their property decay and lose its value. Black anit-semitism comes naturally to many - they learned it in private in their homes and neighborhoods.
@liteenergy4843
@liteenergy4843 3 ай бұрын
The video states that the Hamass Charter actually advocates and intends to introduce slavery. Does anyone have a copy of the texts and the part of the Charter that states this?
@unisophia
@unisophia 3 ай бұрын
“progressive thought” 🤦‍♂️ remember, kittens: wanking ≠ sex “progressive thought” ≠ thought
@stevenkarras3490
@stevenkarras3490 3 ай бұрын
My college classmate's mom went to hs at Bronx Science with Stokley Carmichael. Never forgot when she told me that he originaally wanted to follow his Jewish friends to Brandeis U, Wasn't meant to be.
@UkieCanuckPatriot
@UkieCanuckPatriot 3 ай бұрын
Why is Jewish immigration to “Muslim land” (Palestine) considered colonialism but Muslim immigration to Europe fine? 🤔
@MrNiaman
@MrNiaman 3 ай бұрын
Your comment reflects a troubling double standard that oversimplifies complex historical and geopolitical realities while perpetuating harmful stereotypes. To equate Jewish immigration to Palestine with Muslim immigration to Europe is not only misleading but also ignores the historical context and the ongoing consequences of such movements. First, the term "colonialism" is not just a label; it describes a specific historical process where a foreign power occupies and expropriates land, often displacing indigenous populations. The establishment of Israel involved the systematic displacement of Palestinians, who have lived in the region for centuries. This is not merely a matter of migration; it is a profound historical injustice that has led to significant suffering and loss for millions. Dismissing this reality by framing it as simply "Jewish immigration" is a disservice to the complexity of the situation. On the other hand, Muslim immigration to Europe occurs within a different context. Many Muslims seeking refuge or better opportunities in Europe are fleeing war, persecution, or oppressive regimes in their home countries. This movement is often driven by a desire for safety and stability rather than a colonial ambition to displace existing populations. By characterizing their migration as problematic, your comment echoes xenophobic sentiments that scapegoat immigrants for societal issues without acknowledging their rights to seek better lives. Furthermore, framing the discussion in terms of "Muslim land" versus "European land" perpetuates an exclusionary narrative that ignores the rich tapestry of multiculturalism that characterizes both regions. Many European countries have deep historical ties to diverse cultures, including those from Muslim-majority countries. To suggest that immigrants are unwelcome in these societies is to deny the very principles of humanity and compassion that many European nations claim to uphold. Additionally, this line of questioning feeds into a broader narrative that seeks to pit communities against each other, fostering division rather than understanding. It is crucial to recognize that migration is a global phenomenon influenced by countless factors, including economic conditions, political instability, and environmental changes. Reducing these complex dynamics to simplistic dichotomies only serves to perpetuate ignorance and intolerance. In conclusion, your comment reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of both historical context and contemporary migration patterns. It is essential to engage with these issues thoughtfully and compassionately, recognizing the rights and dignity of all individuals regardless of their background. Rather than framing discussions in terms of "us versus them," we should strive for a more nuanced understanding that fosters inclusivity and empathy for the struggles faced by diverse communities around the world.
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Hypocrisy. Any jew that moved to Israel was welcomed by other Jews that lived there.
@josephwilliamson7350
@josephwilliamson7350 2 ай бұрын
@@MrNiamanChatgpt?
@kcltube3
@kcltube3 3 ай бұрын
such a great discussion thanks so much!
@andreskorge1828
@andreskorge1828 3 ай бұрын
It is about Truth and Justice- equal human rights for all
@1984isnotamanual
@1984isnotamanual 2 ай бұрын
1:21:20 we westerners need to stop talking like that. Slavery is implicitly justified in the holy texts of Islam. It’s not some interpretation of Islamic fundamentalism. It’s clear for all to read and see, it’s what the Quran & Sunnah says. Muhammad himself took slaves as well.
@johnhatchel9681
@johnhatchel9681 3 ай бұрын
🇮🇱
@Seekthetruth3000
@Seekthetruth3000 3 ай бұрын
Palestinians need better leadership. They need to learn to live in peace with Israel.
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
It is an old regional majority vs minorities conflict over religious domination. The front legion does not have any other forming narrative.
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
No other group narrative.
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
When did it change from Arab Israeli conflict?
@andreskorge1828
@andreskorge1828 3 ай бұрын
Herzl called it the settler colonial project
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Should have called it as it is: de colonization.
@JonathanRossRogers
@JonathanRossRogers 3 ай бұрын
Did Jonathan denigrate Lethal Weapon 4? How can you beat Jet Li disassembling a pistol in the middle of a fight?
@saxelrod94
@saxelrod94 2 ай бұрын
How is a person who is supposed to be an intellectual ignore the fact the Vietnam was in fact a battle ground of two worlds: capitalism vs communism, and thus by definition couldn’t be " left alone". Is he unbelievably naive?
@TheWhitehiker
@TheWhitehiker 3 ай бұрын
The simile of Southerners defending the statues of the Confederacy generals is a bit off-- many southerners do distinguish between the slavery issue and the contemporary Southern patriotism issue; this is in fact very common. Sartre's 'bad faith' wasnt always there in that particular instance.
@riposter69
@riposter69 2 ай бұрын
Not trying to be rude but it was a bit hard to listen to German's stuttering repetitiveness that sort of didn't go anywhere. he is obviously a better writer than a speaker so i don't think he makes much of a podcast subject or maybe heavy editing is required. Sorry
@wescolumbus621
@wescolumbus621 Ай бұрын
Even some Jews are not aware that "Spharadi" Jews from a variety of countries in the Jewish diaspora preceded many "Ashkenazi" Jews (from the Turkish diaspora, who moved to Europe) "Colonialism" and "Apartheid" is from the racist Jihadi playbook (which people can find on the PA'S Media Watch, the Jihadis in Suite & Tie, who try to follow up on Hitler's - alHusseini's Genocidal Jews, Israel & Zionism.
@officialzoboomoofoo1767
@officialzoboomoofoo1767 3 ай бұрын
Terrible, obnoxious interviewer. Flat out wrong on many historical subjects. Quillette, please don't use him again.
@ladymsthing6056
@ladymsthing6056 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same. The silly meandering about the chain smoker in a film was disruptive.
@saxelrod94
@saxelrod94 2 ай бұрын
The interviewer is an anti Zionist but is afraid to say it.
@saxelrod94
@saxelrod94 2 ай бұрын
...and a moron.
@katherinecheung6031
@katherinecheung6031 3 ай бұрын
He cannot speak without stuttering every sentence Jesus…
@sondratuckfelt8672
@sondratuckfelt8672 3 ай бұрын
Do you only shame people with speech impairments or do you extend your bigotry to all people with differences ?
@sondratuckfelt8672
@sondratuckfelt8672 3 ай бұрын
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@jonfoxtrot5135
@jonfoxtrot5135 3 ай бұрын
​@sondratuckfelt8672 The stuttering appears more apparent when he tries to articulate his cryptic, non-sensical narrative which is totally understandable.
@NCSCsailor
@NCSCsailor 3 ай бұрын
The section on Hebron is very problematic, in my opinion. There are a lot of inaccuracies and misrepresentations. Overall I believe that it wasn't the best example of the non-colonialist nature of Zionism. The evacuation and subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Jews of Hebron occurred following the massacre of 1929 (not 1921). The violence was part of a multi-pronged uprising that included other cities with mixed populations. All of this occurred during the period of the British Mandate and under British authority and sovereignty. The massacres of the inhabitants and destruction of the Jewish communities adjacent to the city of Hebron were carried out during the 1948 war by the Jordanian Arab Legion and Arab militias. The ethnic cleansing of the West Bank of Jewish inhabitants was similarly carried out at that time. The city of Hebron that was captured by Israel in 1967 was and remains the largest economic, social, and civic entity in the West Bank. It is not portrayed as such in the guest's description. In summary, the discussion of Hebron does not provide a proper example supporting the non-colonial nature of Zionism.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 3 ай бұрын
Good to know... What is a good history on this - at least as far as YT goes?... Any talks, interviews on this history you like?
@unisophia
@unisophia 3 ай бұрын
because although the guest’s point was that Zionism ≠ colonialism, he also tried his best to portray the sides as morally equivalent, and also to bash religion a little, in perfect adherence with New Atheists’ infantile rhetorical style :) irked me too.
@Kurtlane
@Kurtlane 3 ай бұрын
What happened in Hebron in 1929 was an all-out mas...re. I used to quote the memorandum written by the Jewish community, which lists the horrifying details. Unfortunately, I cannot do it any more because of KZbin.
@SueLyons1
@SueLyons1 3 ай бұрын
00:00-18:00 This is extremely slow to start and could be said in about 90 seconds After learning nothing in over 20 minutes, I gave up listening
@hm6333
@hm6333 3 ай бұрын
My grandmother was an English cryptoJew born in 1898, who was vehemently antifacist, antinazi, and antizit. She educated me and my siblings, from an early age, in everything from the Gottenburg agenda, to the Beit - Wurner - Rhodes - Rothchild cabal in attaining the Balfour declaration, to the first Palestinian genocide and the ultimate aims of the zit occupany of Palestine. My grandmother predicted the current zit disaster and implored me to oppose the zit Reich every day in every way available to me. While I may have thought she was a bit crazy and bigoted as a young fellow, I now realise she was an amazing and great Jewish woman, who instilled in me the difference between the beauty and grace of people who believe in the Jewish religion, opposed to the hate-filled spiteful mirage of zit delusion.
@valsolo5085
@valsolo5085 3 ай бұрын
@hm6333I am from US. What is zit?
@hm6333
@hm6333 3 ай бұрын
@@valsolo5085 a zit is a pimple, a superficial biotic infestation. Also used as a political epithet, a verbal shorthand diminutive of zionist.
@LittleAriel
@LittleAriel 3 ай бұрын
​@valsolo5085 Yea, the type of pathology you share with her was mentioned in the video. I'm sorry for you.
@valsolo5085
@valsolo5085 3 ай бұрын
@@LittleAriel now I don't understand you...
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
​@@valsolo5085Ariel's comment is mistakenly directed at you.
@veridianacarvalho9209
@veridianacarvalho9209 3 ай бұрын
Very patronizing video, very pedantic. The students KNOW what they are protesting abt very well: END GENOCIDE NOW, END APARTHEID STATE, END OPPRESSION
@ahappyimago
@ahappyimago 3 ай бұрын
Yes end it in all the Arab Muslim lands that now have a 0% Jewish population
@nelsonguevaras
@nelsonguevaras 3 ай бұрын
What is a fallacy is zionism itself. First of all for europeans Jews to absolutely require a land to make it exclusively their own because they've been persecuted in order to insure their security already amount to much arrogance because others minorities have been subjected to persecutions too. 2. To require that land in other's people countries even if at the time they were colonised is selfish, third to plan the ousting of millions of people in order take theirs land when they were ready to share it is a robbery and this an armed robbery, 4 not to care betraying the people who welcome you when nobody wanted you anymore is a blatant dishonesty. 5 to come to region where all civilisations started and pretend to bring a civilisation wich not yours in the name of a religious identity which not shared by any other people in the whorld but yourself amount at the best to a huge scam. And lastly in order to insure the sustainibility of this criminal endeavour youapply yourself during one century to dehumanize 400 millions arabs and 2 billions muslims and not to accept the hate that come with it is at least delusional. And Franz Fanon and Stockley Carmichael have nothing to do with it.
@ahappyimago
@ahappyimago 3 ай бұрын
You understand absolutely nothing about Zionism. Its goal was to live peacefully alongside Muslim inhabitants and none of the early Zionists ever wrote about kicking them out. It wasn’t until Arab religious figures preached violence which ended up in massacres of Jewish immigrants did full scale war break out after the Arab armies allied and refused any negotiations.
@jonfoxtrot5135
@jonfoxtrot5135 3 ай бұрын
All the stuttering and fumbling over expressing the content is understandable when trying to fit the verbal equivalent of a round peg into a square hole.
@MrNiaman
@MrNiaman 3 ай бұрын
The Dark Nexus Between Zionism, Right-Wing Politics, and Racism in Europe The relationship between Zionism and the rise of right-wing politics in Europe is not merely a matter of shared values; it is a toxic alliance that fuels racism and exacerbates societal tensions. This connection has contributed to a climate of fear and hostility towards minorities, particularly those with brown skin or differing cultural backgrounds. This essay critically examines how Israel and its Zionist ideology have not only influenced right-wing movements but have also played a role in fostering an environment where racism thrives, affecting diverse communities across Europe. The Ideological Underpinnings of Racism Zionism, at its core, promotes the idea of a Jewish state that prioritizes Jewish identity and heritage. While the historical justification for this movement stems from centuries of persecution, the contemporary manifestation often translates into a form of ethnic nationalism that sidelines and dehumanizes non-Jewish populations. This ideological stance resonates with right-wing parties in Europe, which similarly espouse exclusionary policies aimed at preserving a perceived national identity. As a result, the rhetoric that emerges from this alliance often scapegoats immigrants and minorities, branding them as threats to cultural integrity. A Culture of Fear As right-wing parties gain traction, they exploit fears surrounding immigration and terrorism, framing Muslims and people of color as the primary culprits behind societal unrest. This narrative is not only misleading but also dangerously reductive, as it ignores the complexities of individual identities and experiences. The influence of Zionism further exacerbates these dynamics; by depicting Palestinians and their allies as terrorists, it creates a chilling atmosphere where any individual who does not conform to the dominant racial narrative becomes a potential target for harassment and violence. Targeting Minorities Beyond Muslims The racism propagated by this alliance extends far beyond Muslims; it encompasses all brown and melanated individuals who struggle for acceptance in societies that view them as outsiders. The experiences of Polish and Czech immigrants in the UK serve as stark reminders of how racism operates in various forms. Despite having lived in Britain for years, many faced hostility simply because their skin color or cultural practices differed from the mainstream. For Black individuals and other minorities, the situation is even more dire. They encounter systemic discrimination, often facing violence from groups emboldened by the rhetoric of right-wing politicians who remain indifferent or complicit. Inaction from Authorities Perhaps most alarming is the complicity of law enforcement and political leaders who turn a blind eye to this surge in racism and violence. The police often fail to protect marginalized communities from hate crimes, driven by a culture of impunity where racists feel empowered to act without fear of repercussions. Politicians, too, are reluctant to challenge this rising tide of xenophobia; they prefer to align themselves with populist sentiments rather than confront the uncomfortable truths about racism within their constituencies. This negligence allows racist groups to flourish while silencing voices advocating for justice and equality. The Role of Terrorism Moreover, the connection between Israel's actions and the rise of right-wing extremism cannot be overlooked. The Israeli state's militaristic approach to its own conflicts often serves as a blueprint for far-right groups seeking to justify their violent tactics under the guise of national security. In this context, terrorism is not just an external threat but an internal consequence of a broader ideology that legitimizes violence against perceived enemies-often those who are already marginalized within society. Conclusion The alliance between Zionism and right-wing politics in Europe represents a sinister convergence that deepens societal divides and perpetuates racism against minorities. It is crucial to recognize that this toxicity does not exist in isolation; it impacts communities across Europe-Muslims, Black individuals, Eastern Europeans, and many others-who are all subjected to the same oppressive forces. As long as this alliance continues to thrive, the cycle of hate and violence will persist, leaving countless individuals vulnerable to discrimination and terror. It is imperative for society to confront these realities head-on, holding accountable those who propagate such dangerous ideologies while fostering an inclusive environment that embraces diversity rather than rejects it.
@RobHo-yo8qs
@RobHo-yo8qs 3 ай бұрын
No Paul G-d is not a real estate agent.....and many millions are waking up to your obfuscation!
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Your comment is some 3300 years too late.
@TB-sz9nt
@TB-sz9nt 3 ай бұрын
Quillette interviewer: You keep interrupting Paul so he can't finish his thought.
@tigran56
@tigran56 3 ай бұрын
It is a horrible view. It was in 1948 too. An arrangement,i think, should be made. I live in Northern New Jersey. The Lenape lived here for thousands of years before Columbus, and 500 years more before me. Were I offered the price of my home, the cost of resettlement, and told the story of the Lenape, I, personally, might understand and head back to England. My neighbors…. Unlikely. What, about 1948, was conducted this way. Real question, I do not know.
@benjaminmyers5299
@benjaminmyers5299 3 ай бұрын
If England would even take you...
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
Islamists protests around the world should tell you it is not about land.
@tigran56
@tigran56 3 ай бұрын
@@ef2718 what would they say?
@tigran56
@tigran56 3 ай бұрын
@@benjaminmyers5299 they take me back twice a year. Not yet in control of theocratic morons.
@ef2718
@ef2718 3 ай бұрын
@@tigran56 It is a majority vs. minorities conflict. The middle east Arab Islamic majority cannot accept the existence of an independent state of a minority, be it of Maronites, Assyrians, Druze or others, especially of Jews. By Arab Islamic supremacy culture, if it is not dominated and controlled by an Arab Islamic regime then it is an occupation.
@thomassmart4088
@thomassmart4088 3 ай бұрын
Real estate
@drewmoore365
@drewmoore365 3 ай бұрын
Wow so many lies....smh, dont even have time to fact check all of them
@ahappyimago
@ahappyimago 3 ай бұрын
Yeah sure buddy. Go find sources that Jews don’t have a connection to Israel and get back to me
@abidal906
@abidal906 3 ай бұрын
It's all ambiguous and stupid, the way they talk about it. Is it a holy land and holy fights? Or is it a safe haven after the Holocaust? It's like they just spit out whatever and something sticks for someone.
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 3 ай бұрын
It's only those things to someone of low intellect and a midwit, religious affiliation can taint thinking also. 56 Islamic countries, 22 Arabic countries and the world loses it over one Jewish country. Odd👀 Israel is the country and its indigenous population established statehood in its Homeland and overthrow the colonialists that were England.
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 3 ай бұрын
It seems that's the way Israel is - All those various things.
@stephenl9463
@stephenl9463 3 ай бұрын
This is an interview with an authority. He is advanced in age and shouldn’t be expected to quite you chapter and verse on every single detail. If you care so much about detail, go in the direction Berman is pointing to. (Did u even bother to read his article?) Such lazy people who expect everything to be handed to them in the moment and on a silver platter. If you care enough to complain, then care enough to look up for yourself the facts!
@abidal906
@abidal906 3 ай бұрын
​@@stephenl9463 "The truth is clear like the sun."
@erichill3016
@erichill3016 3 ай бұрын
Why would we take your meaning of from The River to The Sea as opposed to the people who are actually saying it
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