Fred Rash's electric circle plane

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[@kengruz669]

What a graceful, gentle flyer. The plane and the man.

[@harriehausenman8623]

Perfect comment! 🤗

[@gfs3salaz329]

Indeed :) @@harriehausenman8623

[@gillesguillaumin6603]

Science is simply magic. ❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊

[@Herperof1000derps]

@@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus Sweet lies, bro

[@ZERO_O7X]

I love his Tennessee accent too, it reminds me of my Papaw. He would have loved this crazy little plane since he was a pilot in WWII and always fueled my passion for aviation.

[@robinbeckford]

I have had a Simplex airfoil generator program on my computers for years that was written by Fred Rash. Smart man, and it's great to see him still doing neat stuff.

[@joshuawfinn]

Fred is a genius and a gentleman. He's made a lot of great contributions to our hobby and was one of the early adopters of capacitor powered freeflight planes.

[@rdaystrom4540]

Very nice model. Well done. Build something else cool. I know you can.

[@jameslynch8738]

Slow and steady, this reminds me of the penny planes!

[@DVS65]

He's a pretty good chemist, too. I went to grad school with Fred at Duke. @@joshuawfinn

[@VasilisPapageorgiou-el6fo]

@@jameslynch8738 what r the penny planes Could u expand a bit for us the ignorant ? Thank u

[@mr.hanger]

I have no idea how I got here, but that was FUN! The gentleman reminds me of a junior high science teacher I had. He always had a way of making learning fun. R.I.P., Mr. McCleary.

[@heckYEAHman.]

3:09 the simple serenity of watching the plane float through the sky as a child’s cry echoes throughout the enclosure

[@melchiordelaunay2539]

That was very cinematic indeed.

[@peterweicker77]

Very creative work. People who build flying machines lift all of us up.

[@youvebeenspooked]

haha get lifted bro

[@marsbase3729]

literally and figuratively 😝

[@guaporeturns9472]

And people who build elevators… and escalators… and some other stuff.

[@dumbdems]

Punny one

[@chrismooneyham5279]

Man who stands on toilet, Is high on pot. -Confuscious

[@williamogilvie6909]

Amazing design. It's has stable flight properties, comes out of a stall by itself, and knows how to fly in circles.

[@tyson9419]

Also a very very old design.

[@ibeetellingya5683]

None of which I can do when out drinking with friends.

[@StixFerryMan]

I think the circling property is due to the propeller twisting the centerline so the stick is wanting to be on one side, then the weight of the stick pulling back down, so it has a natural curve to it’s flight.

[@williamogilvie6909]

@@StixFerryMan Yes, I was being facetious when I said it knew how to fly in circles. Every vehicle, when left to its own, will travel in circles.

[@1islam1]

​@@tyson9419🔴 What Is Islam? 🔴 Islam is not just another religion. 🔵 It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. 🔴 Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. 🔵 It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. 🔴 It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. 🌍 The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as: 📖 { “Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.”} (Quran 112:1-4) 📚 🔴 Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. 🔵 Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him. More .....👇 🔴 THE RETURN OF JESUS

[@Bettinasisrg]

I love seeing older folks lives doing things like this, it shows they are still valuable and we should learn from them and care for them!

[@rodelbunag9823]

True !

[@jpenneymrcoin6851]

i'm still waiting for younger folks to do something valuable.

[@am_I_or_am_I_not]

@@jpenneymrcoin6851stay bitter

[@PandaRants]

@@jpenneymrcoin6851 sorry too busy trying to unfuck the country after your generation led us here

[@tmac9938]

@@jpenneymrcoin6851 hahahaha

[@soviksrimany4103]

Amazing model. It was flying in a perfect path without hitting anything, as if it was being remote controlled. Also what a perfect landing. It was also perfectly maneuvering and gaining attitude whenever it was coming to stall. Amazing feat.

[@smartereveryday]

Very fun!

[@gktawusy]

Yea

[@JaydenLawson]

Fun how it's suggesting this to us a year later :D

[@scope81]

Funny seeing you here, and funny that we all got recommended this at the same time lol

[@kekw9716]

I guess smart people will have similar algorithm

[@theoriginaltimetraveller7597]

Yes its very interesting, would love to see it on a larger scale, if thats something you could figure out with your dad. Your dad knows all about light weight materials and aircraft from the JWT project he worked on.

[@wwjoesr]

I love the plane, and the “young” man who built it! His smile and enthusiasm says so much about the joys of this hobby!

[@yuri3505]

Well said ❤

[@tobieeck9676]

This made me so happy and calm, watching it fly like that.

[@erikreber3695]

Does this plane run on the soul of a child? For a moment every time that kid in the background cried it gained altitude. 😂

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Maybe the sound waves of the echoes had something to do with it.🤔

[@agentcodydanks]

@@salguodrolyat2594🙄

[@matthewstone1362]

😂😂

[@rl8571]

Super natural powered. The greenest energy possible.

[@SirPano85]

Imagine what it can do with an innocent's tear....

[@PlasmaChannel]

This is remarkable. Ultralight doesn't even begin to describe this craft.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

I saw this & my first thought was: i wonder if something like this could work with ionic thrust? *I'm sure the weight would be too much but i thought of your channel and all the awesome work you do with plasma & that ionic thrusters. Keep up the amazing work. It's always fascinating to see

[@TheBlargMarg]

​@benmcreynolds8581 Maybe if it used a lighter material than the wood structure, it might be able to fly with an ion engine.

[@ShowemRight]

@@TheBlargMarg Imagine using a plastic straw instead of that wood dowel.

[@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380]

@PlasmaChannel maybe micro light would be suitable ?

[@jgbelmont]

Or your Mom.

[@thedoc9062]

This guy would be a blast to hang out with and learn interesting things such as his plane. I’m certain he has more up his sleeve.

[@tacticalsapper]

Quote: "I have had a Simplex airfoil generator program on my computers for years that was written by Fred Rash. Smart man, and it's great to see him still doing neat stuff."

[@SlickArmor]

That is if he doesn't forget everything that you ask from him.

[@danstennis1817]

I bet he has some amazing machines!

[@haywoodyoudome]

@@SlickArmor What? Who are you and how did you get in here?

[@SlickArmor]

@@haywoodyoudome The dude said he wanted to learn things from him but every question the guy asked him he forgot. I came in through the door and no, I won't do you.

[@CthuluSpecialK]

What a great little flyer, and charming man who was willing to share it with us.

[@yuri3505]

Good job& good gentleman ❤ Мужик сказал,мужик сделал😂

[@daveOnYouTube]

I got this in my recommendations and it was delightful. A small window into a fascinating hobby that I would have never known about. Something that takes smarts and the appreciation of simple, fun, and inventive work. Just lovely.

[@davidluftig4644]

Lovely and it's amazing that the slight upward tilt made each of the landing perfect...no damage..remarkable.

[@lindabryant4292]

This is epic, and I think this gentleman has exactly the right amount of time on his hands. Wonderous.

[@homemsolteiro8038]

"the right amount of time on his hands" So... Have you implied hes a bum, laybone just because he's elderly?

[@sionbarzad5371]

I found this video incredibly well rounded and uplifting at the same time!

[@VedaSay]

That is the most precious plane and flyer I have ever seen. Such a calming feel to watch.

[@nashrust]

The first time I saw the general glider design was in the 'Great International Paper Airplane Book' published in 1967. It really is lovely.

[@twill9278]

I got a copy for Christmas back then. Very interesting and enjoyable times.

[@Tippet76]

I had a 90s version of that as a kid. Loved that book.

[@h.s.thompsonduke8105]

The forever wonder of being a child , especially at 80 years of childhood.

[@kaudsiz]

It’s the only way to be ✌️☮️🖤

[@philtucker1224]

As people in the aircraft industry often say: “Once a renowned aeronautical aerodynamicist always a renowned aeronautical aerodynamicist!” 😁

[@davidredfern836]

That such a humble contraption can achieve flight says a lot about Fred the engineer. Very cool 👍

[@RMBlake007]

Fred ascribes to the "K.I.S.S. principle."

[@victoryfirst2878]

I had the same idea except it was forty year ago. Thanks for the memory Josh.

[@richardstill1875]

I went to ETSU and walked into the sport center (on the way to a class on the other side) and saw these beautiful fragile planes gently flying around inside. This was in 92 or 93. Still think about that and I am glad they are still doing these :)

[@minibuns6220]

Mr. Rash is the very best. Great to see him fly. Best Wishes to All

[@roeberdt-bT.1021]

...and then theres the "go far, turn left."... Really is awesome. Thanks for the post, glad this "popped into my feed."

[@psychedelicpython]

Fred: “It’s been dyed with a Rit dye over a long period of time. It takes forever”. Narrator: “How much is forever?” Fred: “A half of day!” I love it!

[@todwest]

I used to make a paper plane almost exactly like this when I was a kid. The design is in the The Great International Paper Airplane Book. This and the origami one were my favorites.

[@98f5]

Omg i had that! Have it i mean lol got it as an adult 😅

[@kennethkowalchuk7868]

Me too! Wish I still had that book.

[@todwest]

@@kennethkowalchuk7868 There are used editions available for under $10 if you search around.

[@johnking6252]

The paper tube glider? I'd almost forgot about them. Thx. 👍

[@subspaceanomaly]

I thought it looked familiar

[@okgo8315]

Would never have thought that could fly, it's amazing.👍✌️🇬🇧

[@gaildimick1831]

Absolutely amazing flight. Thanks for your time.

[@oldgrayhairs8246]

Awesome fellow Tennessean! Nice work and enjoy the fun! I look forward to seeing more of your work! Bless you and your family! 🙏🏼

[@jamesa5720]

Awesome, I love your passion for this great sport. My father had an actual glider (Schweizer 1-26) in the 60's in the Dallas area and as a kid, I built my own sailplanes out of balsa and basic kitchen cellophane wrap, long before RC radios. I set the rudder to a slight turn and enough elevator to keep it from stalling. When conditions were right (calm and hot) some would soar right up to the cloud base. But that was my goal, a flight out of sight, ha. I eventually bought my own 1-26 and then a beautiful Std. Libelle 201b and flew for many years. And now as I age, I have returned to my roots, RC sailplanes and I am still like a kid when it finds a thermal.

[@mixz9929]

Ewww I hope you were able to take care of that std never had one myself but i heard its the gift that keeps on giving😆

[@crlguitar1]

I also flew rental 1-26 in Fremont California in the early 70's. It was the most fun I could have with my clothes on! LOL Being only 22 or 23 I didn't have the money to pursue the sport but sure loved flying!

[@babucibabuci1985]

Thank you. I read your article with great pleasure. Amazing. Good luck, buddy

[@jamesa5720]

@@mixz9929 Well, I sold it in 1992, ha. But, boy it was fun and easy to fly.

[@MegumiZero]

People forget how amazing it is that we can just go and get materials at walmart and make something that flies! 😮

[@fluchterschoen]

There's a guy in my neighbourhood that zooms around on an electric bike selling little packets of stuff to extremely thin people with no teeth. I'm told that for 20 bucks you can experience what it is to fly while lying in a muddy puddle in a cemetery.

[@batmandeltaforce]

@@fluchterschoen Do NOT believe them! That isn't mud... but I got an extra packet:)

[@oTamusima]

i've got a couple ideas for a backpack lightning rod that would use copper thread with either a small hot air balloon and rockets or some helium ballons and rockets.. the real trick will be to avoid winning a Darwin.. but yes it really is amazing.. was -2F for some days and i was a little warm without a fireplace.. while chatting and gaming and watching videos in real time with people across the globe.. there is an app called "Radio Garden" that lets you spin a globe to choose radio stations by locations.. radioactive steam powered vehicles aren't so far off, too.. good days :)

[@kengruz669]

@@fluchterschoen which begs the question: Who is really flying, the guy on the electric bike, or the person lying in the puddle of mud at the cemetary.

[@AzaIndustries]

​@@kengruz669were all flying through space ~30 km/s relative to our sun. Our galaxy is flying towards the great tractor at 1000km/s

[@douglaswhite2382]

That was sweet, and props to the cameraman for steady seamless filming

[@DickGallo-dk7wi]

What an elegant design! And it just moseies along with the air currents. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@bobmillerick300]

Thanks for the share. This was awesome. I'm a SuperTigre 60 pipe guy, but I still enjoy watching these super lightweights fly indoors. 😎

[@joshuawfinn]

OS 61 VR is more my style but yeah I like nitro fumes too. We have to fly them open exhaust in freeflight so usually down a bit on power except for the Nelson 65s which were timed for open. Still a ton of fun.

[@Lukeduke7773]

The lateral stability is absolutely rock solid and the stall recovery is incredibly benign wonder if that holds true outside of zero wind conditions

[@karthikthayyil7664]

That's so neat and graceful. Even the landing, was so smooth.

[@croatiansensation6062]

Next Level Cool! Thank you for showing us this awesome man and his awesome aircraft!

[@spencer963]

Fred seems like a real outstanding guy, it isn't all about competition, it's about the satisfaction. And if that was my build I'd be very satisfied

[@stuartshaul9601]

That's an awesome build. I like the idea of it and also notice the perfect landing

[@harriehausenman8623]

So beautiful! And what a graceful landing. 🤗

[@ControlledWrinkles]

The tubular style paper airplane was always my go to for amazing and astounding kids and adults who have never read the earlier versions of The Great Paper Airplane books. So thrilled to see a powered version.

[@fuzexi]

I loved that plane! One of the most interesting things I’ve seen on KZbin. I’d like to hear about the science of it!

[@N95787]

FANTASTIC airplane!! I love the flight control system: stall, recover, repeat. Love it!! Thanks for sharing.

[@georgea7336]

How unique and pretty funny it is to see such a design aloft! Love this thing, you folks keep up the fine work!

[@biterface03]

Y’all are helping us get to the better timeline

[@joewoodchuck3824]

I love it. I wish there was published information to make motors and propellers easy to match up.

[@ForestToFarm]

Way to go Fred!! It’s all about the fun not competition! Awesome plane. Terry

[@0u812icubi]

Totally, Awesome. Thank you, Sir.

[@The_Gallowglass]

I like how it lands itself so well.

[@1laflyer535]

Fred was always very friendly and helpful to me during the 5 or 6 years I was at the indoor champs in Johnson City. Looking Good Fred!

[@joshuawfinn]

He's a great guy!

[@user-lz1pn8ih8k]

I can’t wait to see one on a much larger scale

[@bushratbeachbum]

Very cool Fred!! Thanks for the video. Looks like a lot of fun!!!

[@tamibell4325]

This is fantastic!💥💫 My precious Dad would have loved a little project like this.❤

[@evanownerofthefriends2495]

These videos are amazing! Keep making them!

[@jimgilbert9984]

I found a circular paper airplane design that works great. No propeller, just one piece of paper. I used to amaze my elementary school students when I would demonstrate how easy it was to fold and then walk around the classroom helping them fold their first one. 🙂

[@jpenneymrcoin6851]

yeah, the tube airfoil - I love that thing, make them all the time.

[@jimgilbert9984]

@@jpenneymrcoin6851 They also liked them because they could put them on their heads to wear as crowns. Plus, they were so unexpected - a circular paper airplane, when they'd only ever seen pointy, triangular or rectangular airplanes. Being circular made them more fun.

[@synupps877]

How can I find it?

[@jimgilbert9984]

@@synupps877 I found the design by accident online. You could try a search. I'll try to explain... Take one corner of a regular piece of paper and fold it to its opposite corner. Do not have the corners touch each other. You want them to look like when kids draw mountains - two peaks near each other. The whole thing should be roughly triangular. At the fold along the "bottom" of the nearly triangle you made, fold up the bottom about an inch to an inch and a half. Repeat this two more times. You should now have a strip sticking out on both sides of the bottom of the triangle. Holding those strips (which are actually flattened tubes), roll up the folded strip so that the ends touch, making a circle. Fit the end of one strip inside the other end. To make sure they stay attached, you can staple them. You then play with it so that the whole thing is in as close to a circle as you can get it. If you set it down on a table with the folded strip on the bottom, it might appear to be a crown, with two points up. To make it fly, you slide the space between the two points (the mountain peaks) into the area between your thumb and the rest of your hand, with your thumb inside the plane, with your fingers curled under the main body of the plane and the multi-folded strip pointed away from you. Now here's the tricky bit. You don't want to throw it hard, like you normally do with the triangular planes. You give it a kind of gentle throw-and-push. If you do it right, it doesn't really so much fly as it floats through the air. The first time I did it, it went all the way across my classroom, from my desk in the corner to the door at the other side. It's pretty cool. Even though I described it as best I can here, it's better if you find the directions with illustrations to show you how to do it properly. Do a search online. I hope this helped.

[@DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk]

It is instructors, teachers, methodologists, whatever you like that fire up the imaginations of kids, who then go home and show their parents what they have learned. Be a parent who engages this process and not one to dismiss it. It means the World !

[@hierjetzt]

Wow, this is very nice!! flies so smooth!

[@user-cw7fh9fr1i]

Awesome great move forward ..showing that ionization does work.. Bearing the difference upon weight.

[@ariannasv22]

It looks like it's swimming in the air, so gracefully

[@RachelsSweetie]

I remember my uncle making a paper glider of similar design and launching it from a second story window when I was a kid in the 70s. I'd completely forgotten.

[@BILBO1]

Beautiful! Nice work! Got to try that one!

[@mattski1979]

Super impressive. Sweet plane.

[@deangiacopassi1951]

Fred had many interesting and colorful models at this contest.

[@microbuilder]

Ring Wing! I tried building a larger version of one of these several years ago...needless to say, it didnt work anywhere near as good as this one lol Great build!!

[@IRgEEK]

That was amazing! Thanks for sharing!

[@bobwebber8521]

Great stuff! Love it.

[@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor]

Norway here, I bet that guy is the worlds most awesome granddad! Imagine the gadgets he would make you!

[@SaRkAsMuSoNe-]

Oh hi Norway, Germany here. How’s the weather up there? How is Auntie Denmark?

[@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor]

@@SaRkAsMuSoNe- Hi there, its snowing HEAVILY and its about -8 Celcius❄️🎅 (Western Norwegian coast) I think the Danes are more lucky with the weather than us🤗

[@SaRkAsMuSoNe-]

@@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor glad to hear it. As I currently reside with England, I have not had the luck of snow right by the coast. Thank you for your reply, it put a smile on my face

[@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor]

@@SaRkAsMuSoNe- Have a great day🤗

[@SaRkAsMuSoNe-]

@@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor and you Sir

[@AmjadMiandad]

loved the plan and the gentleman.

[@eduardosaliba7923]

Congratulations on the project! I had never seen a project that went from conventional wings to two wings in circles proving a new theory of aerodynamics.

[@James-gz4oj]

Fred is the Mannnnn nice vid

[@peterhancox5268]

Back about 30 years ago I went to Oshkosh. There was a ‘full size’ (single pilot) experimental aircraft there with a swept back circular single wing, it had flown in, but I did not see it fly, it was called the ‘cookie cutter’

[@mattharvey8712]

Bravo.........the old guy.......making and flying.......food for the soul........u should one on his work shop tour........cheers

[@PoppoFitz]

That was wonderful!

[@tanagra2]

Just amazing, I thought it would fly forever. Can’t understand why the camera man did not help Fred when he was struggling to attach the wire. A great video thank you

[@joshuawfinn]

I figured it was better to let him struggle than try helping and potentially break a wire. Everything on that plane is small and fragile. I knew he'd get it eventually as he's a very skilled flier, and I wanted to get all the commentary he was providing too.

[@tanagra2]

@@joshuawfinn thank you, yep sorry understand now. Again great video, will subscribe

[@paullucas3]

Age betrays us all.

[@Maxim.Teleguz]

Once you get older there a few things you still want to struggle with and people being patient and polite around you is them showing you that they can still be your friend.

[@Maxim.Teleguz]

Once you get older there a few things you still want to struggle with and people being patient and polite around you is them showing you that they can still be your friend.

[@voster77hh]

Awesome. As aerospace engineer this is mind blowing to get a grip on the physics behind it.

[@__logan__duvalier__]

amazing build !

[@Chessdot89]

Amazing landing Fred 👏🏾

[@antonnym214]

wow. nice job on the ring wing! I don't know what the AMA limitations are, but i'm amazed it is tuneable as to how to turn. One has to wonder how something like this would scale up so it could be flown outside, and perhaps have eough payloadf or the luxury of movable flight control surfaces.

[@Colin399]

What a nice bloke and plane

[@alphacentauri3665]

Brilliant. If we don't get a lift from watching this, we should tune in to channels like this more often.

[@poolbob8776]

That is so cool !!! Thanks for posting.

[@j.lietka9406]

Mr Rash, did you try different propeller, motor, & battery configurations? Sir, that is quite amazing! Did you experiment with different cylinder/tube sizes?

[@jonbaker326]

Well done Fred!

[@kellybennett9221]

this is awesome. thanks for sharing your toy with us Fred

[@Jupe367]

I love being around older people like Fred, they are wealth of knowledge.

[@sski]

Neat! Go Fred!

[@buckfiden2988]

Nice fellow Kingsportians.

[@alphanumericskeptic]

Wow! An amazing design that actually works. I like it!

[@stevenm3141]

Very interesting concept. Very much out of the box thinking. And the simplicity is so next level. Nice project

[@kiereluurs1243]

Less level.

[@williamrobinson7435]

I think what's nice about this is that however well you can see it, the planform remains a bit mysterious looking. The upward tendency really comes into its own at the (apparently) higher charge time. Really good fun, this! 🌟🌟🌟👍

[@joshuawfinn]

Yeah it's cool as heck in the air. I just can't stop watching it.

[@maneki9neko]

Newby Question: What makes these planes circle around the building without running into the walls? These planes have not internal control yet they never seem to crash into the walls.

[@joshuawfinn]

Well, they do hit the walls sometimes, but we spend a lot of time trying to keep them away. Using a combination of wing warps, thrustline offsets, and rudder adjustments, the planes are all set up to make nice happy circles.

[@rc70ys]

Exactly My Thoughts

[@frederickrohrbacher8606]

Very impressive for such a simple design!

[@DeepakJoshi-lv6oc]

Excellent creative design works well

[@wmden1]

Nice video. Nice plane. Gotta love Fred, I believe his name was. He had a don't give a sh-t attitude about what the interviewer thought, without being rude, and let nothing bother him. Enthusiastic about his creation and cool as could be.

[@toddjones1480]

Did we watch the same video?

[@waynemetevia7983]

Amazing little plane. How is it able to maneuver like that? Or does it just go along with the air current?

[@kevinross8038]

What air current?

[@waynemetevia7983]

@@kevinross8038 Possible air flow from the HVAC in the facility since it is indoors. Was just guessing.

[@2flight]

wow! I'm impressed!

[@TinyHouseHomestead]

BAM! THERE IT IS! 😁👍🇺🇸

[@deangiacopassi1951]

Planning for the next "Abram van Dover Memorial Free Flight Contest" at Johnson City is in the works. The first big hurdles are scheduling and finances. The Brainbusters Free Flight Club will be stepping up to the plate to host this event.

[@joshuawfinn]

Fantastic! I love flying there!