NATIONAL RALROAD EQUPMENT at Mt Vernon. Complete rebuild of a old GP9

[@joe-qo3qi]

Wow! Amazing how an old locomotive after it's life use is reborn like new. More efficient to roll on the rails for another 50 years! Very awesome and thanks for giving life back to these old work horses. Great video btw 👍. Much success to this company and it's skilled employees.🇺🇸🦅

[@ShawnCalay]

About a year before the railway understands the waisted their money....

[@Shane19776.]

I've been a mechanic most of my life. I always enjoy seeing old equipment restored.

[@brucewallace4337]

This is not being rebuilt it is being stripped for parts. The only thing being saved is the frame and the trucks to build a new locomotive on top of it which was a horrible idea and design and unreliable unlike the original that is being stripped. The RR's that bought then are now dying to get rid of them. A far better idea would have been to rebuild the original you can see it was built like a tank and lasted 50 years in Canadian Weather.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

​@@brucewallace4337the first gensets where unreliable. They have gotten much better.

[@BlueWaterRailfan]

Nice! I always like seeing old engines getting a new lease on life!

[@ShawnCalay]

Yeah a extra 6 months to a year.....lmao

[@HappyHands.]

Its amazing how many GP9's have been upgraded, rebuilt and are still in use today.

[@ArranMcKeown]

It's my still Favorite Locomotive! Some of those things are ass old and still kick it!

[@Elliottblancher]

some of CN's gp9rm's are still in use

[@michaelwalsh9475]

Wow! This is incredible! Like watching our military acft. Going in for " P D M", periodic depot maintenance, almost nothing left but the fuselage, then rebuild her all the way back up to better than new! Hats off to these teams!! Michael Walsh, SSGT, USAF, (Ret.) Twenty year Fighter Crew Chief

[@rickprusak9326]

I worked as a diesel locomotive mechanic at the Ford Rouge Plant, including being trained as a locomotive mechanic apprentice there in the locomotive shop. Everyday was a new job on Ford's locomotives. Loved working there. Did everything from monthly, semi-annual, and yearly maintenance and inspections to total rebuilding of locos. The Ford locomotive shop even repaired locomotives that were involved in accidents with passenger busses and collisions with other locomotives and rail stock inside the Rouge Plant Complex. This is a real skilled trades operation. If you can go home everyday or retire with 10 fingers, 10 toes and 2 eyes, you're one lucky SOB. This career choice, this job is dangerous in the blink of the eye.😮

[@jeffmurdock8321]

I heard that Ford was really fussy with his steam engines back when he was in charge and that he kept them shiny and in tip top shape cuz he was proud of them.

[@rickprusak9326]

@jeffmurdock8321 That's the story that I heard from the old timers that I worked with in the locomotive 🚂 shop. Even if you were doing nothing in the shop, when Henry came walking through the locomotive shop, you grabbed a clean rag and wiped the chrome hand rails of the locomotive to make it look like you're doing some job in the shop. Even grabbing a broom to keep the shop floor clean was another thing to do. Henry Ford always wanted his factory floors and window's to be as clean as the floors and window's in his home. Henry would spend a lot of time in his locomotive shop because he loved trains 🚆 as much as a young boy or girl would love model trains going in circles under the family Christmas tree 🎄 during the holidays. The only difference was that Henry owned REAL Trains.

[@philipbeckley1243]

Bruh Kenny showing off his welding machine like it’s a Cadillac at a car meet. Got my cup holder and gadgets

[@nicholmansgarage3501]

So, essentially, a good ol' work horse that needed some work was insted completely rebuilt and ruined, both in appearance and operation. Nice.

[@paulcarpenter926]

Yes you are right. I am a locomotive engineer in Australia our Company purchased some remanufatured Locomotives from NRE and they are the biggest hunks of junk I have ever worked on.The tonnage had to be reduced by 30% because they do'tperform as rated. They drop out of full dinamic brake when desending steep grades and i might mention they lay sand continously while in dynamic brake the cab exterior was poor design as when laying sand the fine silicon dust came into the cab. Certainly would not reccomend NRE. I was dissppointed in these Locomotives as exremely noisey in the cab to the point of getting ringing ears if not wearing ear protection. I have never worked on such poor American made Locomotives before.

[@3RTracing]

@@paulcarpenter926 Blame NRE not EMD.

[@BmdZero]

@@3RTracing he never blamed EMD

[@allangibson8494]

@@paulcarpenter926 And now battery electric locomotives are the new in thing… No engines at all for mine haul operations. (The Western Australian mines are downhill to the coast so they run battery charge downhill loaded and battery discharge up hill unloaded).

[@hopsing2666]

Agree. Take a good design and replace with “modern” technology with a short life expectancy.

[@captainkeyboard1007]

This show was great. From it, I learned a bit more about what makes a locomotive run. The renovation work done on a locomotive is interesting. I hope the railroad will continue in America.

[@mow4ncry]

You're right about those bomberg, I think that's right, trucks they are pretty much bulletproof that's what our gp9 has under it SP 3194 at the Golden gate railroad Museum

[@vettebecker1]

Would love to spend days and watch this process in person, very cool that they are refurbishing these units. Sad to see them when they are completely scrapped

[@POUNCEMAN1]

Watched this video many times ,,, just love it ,, thanks for sharing

[@Ragonnet]

Title should be Completely Ruining a gp9. I'd take an old gp9 any day over a junkset. When we had 2 at Enola we could never keep those engines running. If I remember correctly we had to manually bleed the fuel lines to get the air out. Now we just use an mp15e

[@wolfmanrebel874]

That's what makes them so much more fuel efficient though 😉 put in 3 engines and one sometimes works you use alot less fuel in a unit that spends most it's time in a shop

[@NishnaValleyRailVideos]

@@wolfmanrebel874 the thing is that gensets suck at pulling power and it’s not really worth the rebuild them

[@artmchugh5644]

@@wolfmanrebel874 same with Harleys parked in garages !!!😄😄😄😄😄😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@wolfmanrebel874]

@@artmchugh5644 that probably the most true statement on the internet

[@artmchugh5644]

@@wolfmanrebel874 call em as I see em!!! Merry Christmas! !😄😄😄😄😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@BossSpringsteen69]

the gensets save more fuel because half the pods (engines) aren't working due to mechanical failure. $10k to replace the pods. Thats pricing about 5 years ago.

[@bugmandu1]

How cool. This is my hometown. Those buildings are all that is left on the property that was a huge RR car shop complex that was there from 1897 to 1954.

[@mow4ncry]

Welding the cab in front hood on well so much for easy maintenance if you have to remove them you got to cut and grind the welds off the old ones were bolted on at least on most locomotives

[@yrunaked4]

I was skeptical about the Genset when it first came out but it is innovative, perhaps they should build on lessons learned because time and technology always brings new things into the mix. There is no lack of talent in the shop people for sure. Until then some good old SW or MP series locomotives or some GP38's are the best thing for switching and short lines still to this day. I sure have fond memories of looking into the fence at NRE at all the dinosaurs there.

[@irasthewarrior]

They destroyed the beautiful GP9 and turned it into a madhouse. 😮‍💨

[@general5104]

The company, I worked for, (which will remain nameless), tried this technology. It was a royal pain to maintain, always a problem of some type, on the road, & they started putting at least two more REGULAR units on as back-up, to start and take-over if and when it failed. I'm pretty sure they sold these off to another short-line, light weight company and phased out THAT form of technology. And we kept GM EMD & GE units, with one big engine as prime mover and one big main generator, (alternator rectified to DC), Direct driven to a 3 phase AC alternator and an auxillary 74 volt DC generator to run the system and charge its 8 Lead/Acid batteries or its two Unitized batteries. (these are standard, now, but one bad cell out of 16 cells and the whole battery quits! Single batteries are very easy to use and much cheaper! 8 volts apiece and 450 lbs each. (THAT helps in tractive effort!) Some units have been changed over to 3 phase AC Traction Motors that use an Alternator, that's NOT rectified, and completely different motor-control. The newer units STILL HAVE ONE ENGINE AND ONE MAIN GENERATOR, It works better that way. The old passenger E8's had TWO big engines connected to two main generators, each running separate from the other, and was long and had the bullet nose. You could tell it had 2 engines in it if it had a rounded topped DOOR in the middle on the side of the loco. You could access everything inside the carbody shell from the cab of the loco It all goes to the fact, " IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT ! "

[@markb8556]

I believe this is Mt. Vernon, IL, at the end with the orange and black mt vernon rams water tower in the backdrop. I have drove by this location a lot looking at all the old locos. This also is a part of town that you dont want to go in after dark due to the local inhabitants activities

[@alcopower5710]

Mark B .....was wondering if it was in Illinois. I’m in Alton not too far away. Don’t know squat about Mt Vernon so would not know anything about good/bad part of town.

[@ethanlee7823]

My brother lives in Mount Vernon, he said one of his friends did questionable things with his own sister. It's nasty.

[@markb8556]

@@ethanlee7823 Doesnt surprise me. If you want to see something worse, go down to wamac by the CN yard. its like a 3rd world country down there. Some places I wouldnt be surprised if they had their water shut off from not paying their bill and was living on well or tank water. Half the town is meth'd out

[@easygoing2479]

@@markb8556 - 🤣 There's nothing like the "south side of the tracks" in S. Illinois, even if those tracks run N-S. Centralia's got its good areas... and its REALLY bad!

[@easygoing2479]

Yes, this is Mt. Vernon. I used to live about 8 blocks from this shop, and would always take a good look at the locomotives and slugs they would rebuild while driving by. They had quite a collection of worn-out relics in the yard. And yes, it's a bad part of town down there. Housing projects and drugs and who-knows-what. A Socialist Democrat's dream.

[@LucasChoate]

Oh boy, do I hate the "there's no room for error"and dramatic music stuff.

[@mikeslavin4256]

Agreed - 'rip the loco's heart out' etc. It's not a horror film.

[@ResilientCounty]

As a video editor, this is one of the reasons I can't work in the broadcast industry anymore.

[@WPPCProductions]

@@ResilientCounty .Got a great point Barry..

[@tractorfixrable]

Nylon sling is called a padded chain ?

[@ohgary]

I’m an old hermit that watches a lot of documentaries. Not only do these producers treat the audience like dummies, they repeat stuff over and over. There’s a show I watch about gold mining. They write in a life or death situation right before every commercial break of which there are many. Always with horror show music. The following segment will repeat a lot of the previous segment. But I have a device in my hand that lets me escape.

[@BossSpringsteen69]

This video was pretty solid till the narrator said this is getting a genset engine. I got seven years experience of watching them fail. Our mechanics had to derate the engines to keep the circuit boards from burning out. Our units were purchased with a grant so we are forced to use the useless engines otherwise the grant money has to be returned.

[@TheGrover1968]

Using green new deal rhetoric to and metric instead of Imperial/SAE units.

[@mshum538]

I cut my eye teeth on a gp40-2 when they were brand new and thats why we called them a general purpose geep, nothing will ever compare to a hauler and switching engine…..ms~~~

[@MSCM2000]

At 24:35 you can see Baldwin RS4-T-C 4032 , volunteer at a museum that has a Baldwin RS4-T-C-A1 at the Texas transportation museum in san Antonio Texas

[@johngowler3436]

Seen this place in Mt Vernon Illinois many times it's a must see for a true railfan!

[@philipbeckley1243]

How close is mount Vernon from Peoria

[@johngowler3436]

@@philipbeckley1243 I'm not sure of the mileage but it might be a little above 100 miles I'm not totally sure but it's about 20 some miles east of centralia Illinois if you know where centralia is sorry I dont know the correct mileage from Peoria to mt.vernon!

[@philipbeckley1243]

@@johngowler3436 thanks I just wanted to know as my grandma lives in Peoria and it would seem like a cool spot to check out, as I am a rail fan. It’s good to because we like to go to Easley and visit friends, and they have a busy railway, and my Gaga and papa live next to a railway system.

[@mmi16]

Gen Sets - a failed innovation - starting the multiple gen sets take to long to be effective in actual operations.

[@jonnycando]

Do like we used to do....start them when outshopping and never shut them down til they break down.

[@gusbunger6494]

Is it really an innovation if it's unsuccessful?

[@Leoluvesadmira]

Gensets sound mor labor intensive inside one engine and generator to maintain you now have 3? Your savings in fuel have just gone to labor and maintenance. Also may lose money if those engines fail to kick in and suddenly need helper units on a climb you did not need them before

[@BossSpringsteen69]

Sensor failures are an issue with these too.

[@windwhipped5]

GM Cadillac div had a similiar idea as Gen. Sets, back in the late 70's for cars. It was a 4-6-8 , 6.1 liter gas job..i had it my 81' Coupe Deville. had no idea if it worked..i assume it did..

[@billmorris2613]

Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 14 Nov 20.

[@MFXdump]

To find out what a kilo is, I had to ask a Cocaine dealer.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

Lol.

[@realtruth172]

good joke of the day

[@West_Kootenay_railfan]

😂😂😂😂

[@raymondleggs5508]

RIP GP9

[@daveyboy_]

was it a CN ? it looks like its colors

[@transformandoelcarton9442]

Valió la pena ver el video cada maldito segundo! 👍

[@richardjellis9186]

A few shortcummings, as in my other comments, but, overall, GREAT VIDEO, and, what a great thing to do with the older units. Fantastic company 🥰🥰

[@alanolley7286]

I noticed a complete lack of natural light in those workshops,it must be tiring to work under arc lamps all day.

[@WBDE]

At the time this video was posted, the genset locomotives were still being produced but are being rapidly phased out now by the major U.S. railroads. The person who posted this video stated that he loves the southern accent. This facility is in Mt Vernon, Illinois which is in south central Illinois about midway between St Louis Mo and Evansville, Indiana so this is not really a southern accent here, its more 'good ole boy'. Having changed many sets of air valves in these locomotives, I wish they had shown some of the complexities of that system assuming they are using a 26L system. The painting process also is nothing to be taken lightly. If they were using DuPont Imron paint, it is very dangerous for someone to use who does not respect it and doesn't know how to apply it properly.

[@valeriebassett3107]

Great video!

[@MP-16productions]

Very cool thanks for sharing this

[@MichaelDouglas-24]

That jim guy doesn't want his polite employees to stay long obviously lol

[@organbuilder272]

This gen set is in every power plant, auxiliary power system even generators for homes are GENSETS. Nothing new, been around for YEARS, but you don't known about that. Every Diesel engine had one or more GENSETS.

[@franzbrunner499]

is this company still doing such upgrades? where are they located?

[@sheltonharlow]

So glad to hear all the specs of an American Loco(MOTIVE) described in Euros, kilos and meters. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[@easygoing2479]

No. Its makes globalism and loss of American identity.

[@xaenon]

@@easygoing2479 The metric system is loss of 'American Identity'? HOW? Especially when you consider the 'American' system was actually brought here from England during our colonial days. Most of the world uses the metric system; does it not make sense to use the same system as everyone else and not make things harder four ourselves? Seriously, we could knock out the conversion in like a month. Most products and so forth are already set up for it. And yet we've been dragging our heels for like 50 years now.

[@xxximwhitexxx]

Kilos and meters makes sense as it's actually Canadian

[@JacquesDufrene]

@@easygoing2479 ooOooOooo globalism scary, centimeters oOoOoOOooo

[@allangibson8494]

The US has been officially metric since 1798. George Washington signed the US up. The US inch is defined in millimeters.

[@repowers2]

The narrator's insistence on calling it a "loco" is kinda crazy.

[@applesucks2633]

Robert Edward Powers What would you call it?

[@NishnaValleyRailVideos]

Apple Sucks A Locomotive or Just a Train

[@easygoing2479]

If you knew what that part of Mt. Vernon looked like, "loco" may be very appropriate.

[@Lollie22]

@@NishnaValleyRailVideos you sound stupid you do know “loco” is short for locomotive right?

[@NishnaValleyRailVideos]

@@Lollie22 Loco is just a annoying way to say locomotive so shut your toxic mouth

[@allenbarnes7202]

What is with the metric weights

[@09impala]

Because honey, there are other countries in this world than America

[@scubajoe3321]

nice but why euros?

[@09impala]

Because honey, there are other countries in this world than America

[@scottmaltby4511]

I worked the oil industry. I can guarantee the boss gonna go over that paint job with a light & fine tooth comb. No runs, no drips, no errors & no dry spots. But a locomotive? I got other shit to do. Those stencils better be straight because I betcha he is gonna put a string line on them & you are going to be holding the other end. Talk about the cab welding. 1 hole will start corrosion. He didn't mention the weather. Flaws, gas trap bubbles cause corrosion. Trains also work in salt environments. The coast, dry lake beds, caustic materials, you name it. Constant battle. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@davidbarnett9312]

This was actually interesting, however, having said that, when did America become part of the European Union? Euro's, Celsius, Kilograms, Kilometers, etc., etc., etc.

[@theamerican7080]

Just to push the USA into further and further into obscurity- part of 'the plan'...

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

It's not so subtle propaganda! Ahh.

[@MrJMS814]

@@theamerican7080 As an American who sees what goes on here... Good.

[@realtruth172]

i just am stuck on the brits way

[@09impala]

@@theamerican7080 I fucking wish that was the plan

[@northernillinoisrailfanpro819]

And the Gensets where a failure

[@nathanditton5011]

Exactly what I was gonna comment, the only ones I see in service now are on the Indiana harbor belt as road slugs.

[@jacobhinojosa6462]

That’s very interesting and fantastic work

[@applesucks2633]

Vintage American locomotive being rebuilt in America and you’re referring to it in kilos and it’s worth in euros?GTFO

[@jo6520]

14,000 kg is 30,864 lbs

[@NorthWARail]

Where is this city since theres a mt veron here in WA

[@ModMokkaMatti]

Shout out to Skagit County - Tulip capital of the US!

[@billvoorvaart7206]

cool video good work boys

[@grantbagwell8092]

Except for the fact that the Narrator is using the metric system instead of standard for weight and money

[@skunkhome]

Why would you describe the value of the engine in euros?

[@yobubo]

An insightful video, thanks for uploading! Kinda baffled by the narrator using the term 'loco' far too often (and being overly dramatic), and why he insisted on referring to everything in metric quantities. Otherwise a solid experience. Couldn't' find much on the Gulf Coast Rail Service company online either - and only one shot of this unit (or one like it) in the wild - do you have any more information about this color scheme and production?

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

Neat!

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

I love your videos btw Baltimore

[@BaltimoreAndOhioRR]

@@steelcityrailfan4808 thx!!

[@tomstrainsproductions]

​@BaltimoreAndOhioRR good to see ur here too😊

[@realtruth172]

i would like to see the cost difference between rebuild and new

[@sheltonharlow]

Maybe next time use Quatloos, Cubits and Hogsheads. That'll be more Universally understood.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

A-PLUS!

[@markfryer9880]

Join the rest of the metric world. Only the US and two other looser countries use the Imperial System.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

@@markfryer9880 I've got enough metric stuff to get by and the Imperial stuff fits metric just fine after the fasteners get a little bigger. And then there's a modifier (hammer).

[@theamerican7080]

@@markfryer9880 The most powerful country in the world uses the imperial system for a reason: Metric SUCKS.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

@@markfryer9880 You mean, thank you for saving our butts, twice!

[@jason27swg]

How are those gen sets works for you guys ha !

[@MIKES0029]

Why not just use orange decals instead of painting twice?

[@verticalexcursion]

13:38 what was that unit 2801 white and green

[@whistlinturbosrailfanprodu4652]

That seemed to be a CN&W SD45, or something. CNW is yellow and Green, but the Yellow is.. White for some reason.

[@deniseblack3509]

I used to live across from the shop

[@americancitizen748]

The cycle of loco life continues... Sounds like my first marriage.

[@ty.Tibor123]

Lol 😂😂

[@darrelmack5185]

How cost effective is this over a new engine? Seems they replaced everything but the chassis.

[@Grandpa82547]

It was a GP9. What do they call it now?

[@garyliu6589]

Once upon a time, all good stuff are painted red...

[@HariHaran-cb9om]

Heavy incredible michane

[@barrycarlisle4511]

Machine.

[@ModMokkaMatti]

Migraine.

[@steelcityrailfan4808]

Very cool video

[@johneastman1905]

Two suggestions, a writer who actually knows the trade, record two sound tracks. In imperial US units & a European metric.

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

That is a reasonable compromise.

[@ReadingAreaRailfan]

I know the guy who was operating the very first green goat and it cought fire. He let it burn. Gen sets never work.

[@jandajanda2242]

That first image tho

[@LGTheOneFreeMan]

>broken down relic Up your ass dude, we still got Milwaukee Road Geeps running out here!

[@freedomfighter1000]

NON UNION SHOP FOR SHURE, NO HARD HATS, AND HE IS WORRIEDABOUT SAFETY...

[@davidprentice-ko8fz]

How to u get a job there or to drive a locomotive ?

[@ShaunPaget]

Museum in Illinois, trains for US rails, US show WTF is every thing in Euros and metric??!!

[@grantbagwell8092]

My point exactly

[@CarlosGonzalez-kt5be]

BEAUTIFUL JOB!!.. Sal.des.new NEW..

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

Next time you guys do a production about an American operation, could you be so kind as to use Imperial measurements for US Back to Back World War Champs?! Thank you, in advance.

[@09impala]

Dear god you're the reason other countries hate us

[@ILSRWY4]

Nice but the only thing that is orginal is the frame... new trucks new wheels, new genset engine, hell even a new car body and cab. Its really NOT the same locomotive, only the frame.

[@l.p.5499]

Why in the hell is the narrator talking Euros, kilograms, etc. This is America, not EU.

[@09impala]

No actually, this documentary was made for non Americans

[@billestew7535]

Alstom tried to build [green goats ] at C.P s Ogden shops in the late '90s, you can not renew the age of the locomotive frame and those frames can only take so much use and abuse and the gensets sucked especially in winter... fail

[@Elliottblancher]

RIP that CN GP9RM

[@desertbob6835]

NRE gensets blow.

[@johnandersonjjr]

I guess the metric conversion guy didn’t hear “the 3/8 ratchet” and it must be old because they would’ve pixelated out the EXIT sign because the running man pictogram is required now in Canada where this was (probably) voiced over and meant to be shown to a (just as baffled )cable tv audience

[@daniels4227]

Mt Vernon IL?

[@brandonharris7516]

Wow

[@charlierumsfeld6626]

Driver's console??? How about cab??

[@victoriousrufus6747]

Very poor script! Too much unnecessary chit chat

[@lorenzo1859]

Top mécanique locomotive 👍🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃

[@fordnut4914]

I would have used jb weld.

[@hammerdragon4321]

Ok if this is in America then why are they using the metric measurements system and why are they using the £ why aren't they using the us measurements and the American dollar

[@oldprophet]

Awesome...

[@PersonmadudeRailwayProductions]

Not restored, just a new thing build in the same place it was taken apart

[@cherokeecoyoteoffical4625]

I noticed a ex CNW and ex WC unit in the background

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

This is old video, the railroads quit doing the "gen set" update, too many failures. They are horrible to switch out freight cars with.

[@allangibson8494]

The biggest problem with genset locomotives was that they were rebuilds - they had a ten year design life as a result before the frames and running gear needed replacement… The new generation low emissions concept is battery electric locomotives - particularly where large dynamic braking loads are present and also asymmetrical loading (like mine to port traffic).

[@haroldalexis4200]

That was an interesting experience to watch a vintage engine and chassis remodeled into a new engine. This new diesel reminds me of an advance version of the MP15 series. I wonder if these are available in model trains such as HO SCALE? That would be awesome in O SCALE. I really liked this video. It was another educational video for me as a railroader. I thank you. ☺🚥🚥🚞

[@hobbyhermit66]

Gensets are available in HO. Not sure which company makes them.

[@Chow_Hound1964]

I hate a show about an American operation and they use metric units of measure and foreign currency.

[@mile290productions3]

this getting turned into a genset or GP9RM

[@davidford2169]

Can I buy one in ho scale do you know?🙏🇬🇧

[@mow4ncry]

The smallest and cutest get the job underneath 😂

[@timpriddy349]

Gensets are lame....ask any engineer

[@TPB-OPA]

This literally defines recycling.

[@ValleySubRailfan4643]

I like how this is in California but they say euros

[@markfryer9880]

Since when is MtVernon Illinois in California?

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

It's in IL, otherwise, I agree with you.

[@09impala]

Because honey, there are other countries in this world than America