Free to Pay

[@T3rr0r626]

I made a follow up: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZDQYYZqbayJo5o *Corrections:* 10:26 BRAWLHALLA NOT BRAWL STARS WHOOPS!! I’m honestly not surprised this misspeak made it though the cracks. I’ve been mixing up the two in my head for years since I haven’t played either until recently. Also regarding Paladins, I don’t really think it’s a “rip-off” of Overwatch. I see it as more of a “Coke vs Pepsi” type thing where both drinks taste the same to the general consumer but people have their reasons to choose one over the other. It was the most rushed segment of the video as I force myself to follow weekly deadlines in order to actually release videos on a regular basis. I would have loved to get more in depth about aspects of both games but it’s so-so I guess. As for TF2 and CS:GO, while I had written and narrated a section and the end I ended up scrapping it, as I felt like it would be better to go more into detail about those games. I’ll talk about them in the follow up in however many months. Feel free to give any suggestions as to what else should be in the video. Also since a lot of people seem to be pointing it out the reason I keep saying games are $80 is because where I live they’re $80 CAD on average, with Switch and PS5 games going to about $90. I’m Canadian so I’m using Canadian currency instead of American currency. I should have pointed that out earlier my bad.

[@Castleoff]

I was gonna put a comment pointing that but you already did :) + great video tho I will try the first game tho it seems kinda fun actually :0

[@efrain223]

Honestly i didnt know the difference each time i search barwl stars a see brawlhalla and i dismt know what it was

[@Gl_3tch]

Brawl stars is pretty free to play friendly lol so I'm glad for the clarification

[@Castleoff]

@@Gl_3tch yeah and the devs still adding more updates that make the game more fun and also not p2w and they fixed the gold issue and most of the players will be able to get their brawlers to higher levels now tho the only issue is the matchmaking and teamers

[@mataslegeckas8325]

WHAT ABOUT TF 2 ???

[@shrumm_]

You should talk about Tf2 since it’s rlly interesting how it maintained a lasting community for 12 years without updates for. 6

[@sillylittleshart]

12? It's a 16 year old game

[@gamrknight8060]

@@sillylittleshart 16? God fucking damnit I'm old, I remember that game having it's 13th anniversary.

[@sillylittleshart]

@@gamrknight8060 Yep. Some people born when undertale came out are now learning fractions

[@shrumm_]

@@sillylittleshart lmfao the games older than me

[@froozles]

​@@shrumm_ 💀

[@NotmynameTaken]

Free to Play games cost way more then an actual paid game

[@VOLATILEVOXELS]

If not your bank account, it costs your time and effort

[@green29373]

Only if ur tempted by their offers

[@myfloor622]

that makes a lot of sense and doesn’t simultaneously

[@myrealnameisharry49]

True. I've spent hundreds in Fortnite.

[@nightnovis]

True

[@Photogenick]

Every game is free to play with the correct mindset 🏴‍☠

[@HiddenGrinn]

not only games 😏

[@MrZetlee2]

@@HiddenGrinn the food in the shoping mall (its called shoplifting)

[@Photogenick]

@@MrZetlee2 It's not shoplifting if I eat the food in the store

[@test-ot1fz]

@@Photogenick it's not shop lifting of you throw it

[@Yujuchingu]

arrrrrrrrr

[@トーキ-g8v]

Speaking of free games, Death palette while being free, somehow has better storytelling than most AAA games I’ve seen. I’d love it if you would review it so it can get more attention!

[@burney7998]

NO WAY, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT ALSO KNOWS THE GAME? I have to agree though, Death Palette is one of the best mobile games out there.

[@YourCoolFriendKoriko]

Death palette......... Man I'm still recovering from that mobile game, GOD DAM IT WHY IS IT SO SAD.

[@ReddishBead]

And tf2 is funnier than most AAA shooters

[@8bitter307]

@detonatoringmod nope valve is a indie company

[@airstep001]

@@YourCoolFriendKoriko just cry it all out man

[@thegrayshadow7676]

A good example of a F2P game is Warframe, where instead of paying for premium currency, you can actually sell rare items to other players for said premium currency. The story isn't all that bad either.

[@thebreadbringer]

It's weird how both TF2 and Warframe are in the thumbnail and he didn't talk about them. They're both very good games to bring up in this discussion.

[@deft4184]

@@thebreadbringer What? I just clicked on the video thinking those two would be the spotlight lol

[@racertive]

warframe could do better but it gets boring after a few matches

[@hahafunnyman-on5rq]

Yeah warframe is sick. I managed to get a shit ton of platinum from spamming trade chat

[@dabbingperson9236]

I really like warframe. Especially when there are big numbers on my screen. Edit: Duviri Paradox came out last week and it’s fucking amazing.

[@deathkingZa7799]

As a former Paladins player it really feel like Terror played like 2 matches and never touched it again, since beginner players are paired with bots until a certain level. He never mentioned the cards and talent system which give each champions three distinct playstyles, which gives it an edge over overwatch. Right now Paladins literally have a better monetization compared to OW with most of Paladins skin being comparable to OW2's mythic skins with half it's price.

[@violet-tale]

Exactly what I'm thinking, as someone who used to be avid with both games it was 50/50 between Overwatch to me when it came to pros and cons. Overwatch 2 made me completely won over by Paladins, more frequent content + cheaper skins, only drawback is graphics, but the game still has its own visual charm.

[@StitchySpooks]

Better monetization, but not all aspects. When you look at the bundles and how the Battle Pass is $15, offering less in comparison, that brings down the argument I don't touch Paladins anymore due to the developers' incompetence and negligence for their player base. Why stay on a sinking ship, right? But their monetization tactics are what stuck out to me in a bad way. That's greed if I've ever seen it

[@ChesterManfred]

To be honest ANYTHING is better than Overwatch.

[@knxwn553]

@@StitchySpooks the battle pass is mostly for cosmetics and unlike a certain game we know, doesn't lock newer characters behind a battle pass. Also there isn't many tiers cos of the fact that it contains so much. For the price of 400 crystals you get about 5 skin each skin worth 400 crystals, its 5x value even without the extras it comes with.

[@underscore2554]

@@knxwn553 The character for each season can also be unlocked through challenges that are ridiculously easy. I’ve gotten the new character for the season within the first week playing casually

[@JuanAndresDiazTorres]

2:24 This has nothing to do with the topic of the video, but I absolutely love the drawing on-screen! I think this is a great example of how funny squash-and-stretch can look in animation, they get a laugh outta me! It's right up there with smear frames.

[@PyroGaming...]

you sick fuck

[@Liscinov]

I guess you can say that it was satisfactory

[@green29373]

Just from the title alone, I already know how tough it is as a F2P player. The only money ive spent was on Minecraft and nothing else. I absolutely hate it when it is pay2win as it is even worse to grind in. This is why I love games based on skill. The only thing u can spend money on is cosmetics.

[@aqop5548]

I think you should check out more "free to pay" games especially games like war robots and mech arena (because it feels like both of these game's dev teams are in a race for "who monetizes their game the most" i guess) (I also want to mention that mech arena dev team is going to help f2p's with a game overhaul which it was unexpected from them because you know, plarium is plarium they love money)

[@HienNguyen-cs1md]

Holy sh1t I tried War Robots, cause it looks cool ofc. And by god it was super duper ultra pay to win it's like the devs are memeing on us even in lower rank you have no chance of going against the payers. Also skills doesn't mean shit if you don't pay

[@fujinshu]

No wonder plarium sponsors so many creators

[@aqop5548]

@@HienNguyen-cs1md i bet you should check out öech arena too, its pretty similar to war robots (in transactions of course)

[@X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X]

I play Mech Arena (I enjoy mauling small children in mobile shooters) and I still can’t believe that a new weapon costs $15

[@aqop5548]

@@X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X agreed, i aint gonna pay that much money for bunch of pixels

[@SKai2609]

Honestly surprised you didn’t talk about Warframe, it has honestly one of if not the best free to pay model out there. Aside from prime cosmetics as far as i’m aware, anything you see in game (that wasn’t single-time exclusive) can be obtained for free. I played the game for years because of this model. Gameplay loop is primarily about grinding for the next thing you don’t yet own, but most grinds are pretty reasonable, taking only a few hours max if you are efficient and way less if lucky. Given there’s hundreds of equipment to grind or collect, you could spend thousands of hours grinding for everything. This is where premium currency comes in, where you can either buy it or trade with other players who have it. Given that the nonbound version is tradeable, you can simply farm items that are currently in demand in trade chat to make premium currency to buy other rare items you may want in trade or the market. Its basically supply and demand, and demand is typically high for whatever new prime equipment comes out. This is a type of model where whales and the community at whole can almost directly keep the flow of premium currency in circulation for as long as the servers remain online. Furthermore, now that cross-play has been enabled, i’m pretty sure you can now trade with people on other platforms, largely increasing the available premium currency in circulation

[@YourOneNOnly_]

Right there was so many games that he could've talked about and done way more research on. He chose 6 games 2 of which I'm pretty sure are PC exclusive and did surface level research. Your explanation on Warframe was way more in depth than the video tbh 😂

[@zekcide]

The worst thing about battle passes is the fact that it abuses your fear of missing out. If you buy a battle pass you kinda feel like you *must* finish it or else you spent money on nothing.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Fr, I am so fucking sick of every game having “seasons”

[@Wulfjager]

Deep rock galactic has seasons but they're free and it designs the game to where if you miss out on season content you can still unlock the stuff later through other means. I wish all games with season content took a page from them. Difference is, games with fomo are trying to make money and glue your eyes to the screen

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

@@Wulfjager yeah I’ve heard hella good things about that game, rare example of a non predatory live service game

[@Wulfjager]

@@TheBBCSlurpee such a darn shame that what I consider the expectation is seen as the rare exception. A sad product of the profitability of the gaming industry. Seems most gaming studios don't want to make it out of passion but rather only money

[@DarrenSmith-j8m]

@@TheBBCSlurpee some live service games like DRG are great. Don’t exploit your fear of missing out and don’t do other awful psychological things (like how cod puts you in lobbies with lower skilled players if you buy skins so that you feel good for buying it and the people who are losing might buy a skin because they are getting slaughtered by someone with one) but majority do shady shit like that and I hate them. I personally want more philosophical story driven games with strong gameplay like dark souls and disco Elysium not addiction loops with no themes or message

[@jevilreformed]

Heal and hurt reminds me of the zombies in Minecraft being healed by damage and hurt by healing. Cool to see a more distinguished game out of that idea.

[@thelakeman2538]

I think free and open source games (almost always free in price) should be another category, stuff like Battle for Wesnoth, Openttd, 0 AD, Minetest, Unciv, etc.

[@thefilipinogamertfg]

Forgot Mindustry pal

[@dragonrelm7068]

Paladins is a game I loved to play with my friends a couple years ago, however with hirez supporting smite more than it and evil mojo only having 3 or 4 developers at the moment it's difficult for me to support them as hirez doesn't wish to support evil mojo.

[@juanmanuelrodriguezarango4415]

Actually the game has always had very few developers, I think the maximum it reached was 40, currently it only has 20, the only reason they could release content more or less frequently is because they had a lot of pre-made content, well, technically this game has been in development since 2005, if we count its "prequel", but it is already running out of pre-order content, so from now on the game will have less and less content, unless they do what OW did, do not update the game for 4 years to be able to accumulate content

[@somerandomguy6767]

Yeah, certain new Champs like Kasumi absolutely broke the balance of the game. Does anyone like fighting a character who has a instant lock on hitscan *as they're primary form of damage*

[@endostatic7687]

I need to add something to the Fortnite pricing part. Sometime in mid to late 2020 they reduced the prices of VBucks by 20/30% and made that whole Apple Lawsuit thingy. And since then the prices of the skins were significantly lowered and on top of that they started doing bundles where they put a whole set for a discounted price.

[@czebosak]

Still too expensive for pixels

[@endostatic7687]

@@czebosak definitely but if you consider the amount of free v-bucks you get from the battle pass, it's not that absurd. I personally only bought save the world (PvE) + 1 battlepass and never spent money again. You get 550 vbucks free with every season's battlepass and Save The World gives you almost weekly VBucks too.

[@czebosak]

@@endostatic7687 thats too much grind especially if you have a job

[@endostatic7687]

@@czebosak The battle pass can be finished in as short as 1 day if you do your challenges. It's that easy. And the Save The World vbucks are just daily login rewards. You can gain extra if you did daily/weekly challenges there (those are very time consuming tho). Nonetheless, the battle pass isn't that much of a chore in fortnite and they make it easy to finish.

[@zarasty]

I almost thought I had bad eyesight when I saw the title as "free to pay" and thought it was actually "free to play" But anyways, time to watch the video and get entertained by another t3rr0r masterpiece

[@SKai2609]

Overwatch 1 ironically had one if the best lootbox systems out there. You get a lootbox every few games + if you played a certain character role (usually support and flex) you’d get like 2 extra lootboxes a day. Furthermore you could get up to 3 free lootboxes a week if you won 9 arcade games. These lootboxes each held 4 items and you may not be getting what you wanted, but you got ALOT of items. If you ever pulled a duplicate item, you would get currency instead Lootboxes in Overwatch 1 only contained cosmetic items so they were purely optional unlike lootboxes in other games and gacha games. By around level 300-400 near the end of OW1 is when you would typically start to get more duplicates than new items, giving you tons of currency to buy whatever you didn’t yet have. I ended up buying most of the cheap items in the game this way and averaged about 80 items unlocked per hero by the start of OW2

[@LoganTEM]

And now we wait for the "gacha game" video where t3rr0r talks about gambling for 10 minutes

[@gamrknight8060]

Gacha Game fans explaining why they're not gambling addicts:

[@AmberAugustReal]

Genshin fans aren’t predators they’re just addicted to gambling

[@X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X]

@@AmberAugustReal And minors

[@thefilipinogamertfg]

​@@X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X *Here is some advice for genshin players:* *The age of consent is 18 years old* -Maxor

[@test-ot1fz]

Gacha fans when they pay they life savings for a game:

[@violet-tale]

Paladins has way more variety than similar games because of character customisation via. deck builds, labelling it as a clone is just wrong. And the comparison made with some characters to other games is only for old characters. After the initial Overwatch hype period they started branching out into an original game.

[@cesar6447]

and not even old character, theres no one like Pip or Ying or Evie in Overwacth

[@marny69]

This channel is absolutely goated 💯

[@Thatspaceperson]

Yes

[@JoshValdez1996]

This is how I found out new players in OW2 have to unlock all the OW1 characters. That’s wild. The loot boxes weren’t bad either cause they were given at a super generous rate and they did have credits (that you earned in game and couldn’t buy with real money) so if you saved them up you could just buy the skins you wanted without having to wait to get it in a loot box. That’s all.

[@Nothing2late2sad]

3:11 He should make a video talking about genshin, I'd be intrigued at least

[@T3rr0r626]

I was genuinely considering it last summer but I was so bored out of my mind that I gave up after playing through the first half hour. I will not subject myself to more of that for my own sanity.

[@shamsielshahar120]

​@@T3rr0r626 would you really genuinely doing it? (The phrase you said about doing it to yourself) most likely not lol. But anyway you'll probably make a video about genshin if you're desperate which is far fetched from your current situation (I hope at least).

[@StanleyG23]

@@T3rr0r626 Man, you have serious ADHD brain then. Though I'm certain that one of the main reasons you were so bored was because of your unadulterated bias against it which made you not want to play the game or even give it a chance in the first place. Or, I guess you just dislike anything anime related...

[@someguy2347]

Warframe handles microtransactions the best: -Almost everything you can buy, you can get a pretty doable blueprint that you can buy for a currency you literally get thousands of when playing. -They have a trade economy where you can give a skin/part/vaulted blueprint/relic to somebody in exchange for those or premium currency -If you're off the game for a while and log back in (maybe after 2 weeks), you get a 48h 75% discount most of the times -The only things that instead of buying with premium currency (which you can earn) you pay with real money, is player created content (usually not surpassing 5$ a piece) and prime access, which is probably the only expensive thing. -There is a slight grind to it, but unless it is a vaulted prime, you can play to get (which is the point in games, isn't it?)

[@DOGEELLL]

The game sucks looter shooters were never good from borderlands to destiny to warframe

[@someguy2347]

@@DOGEELLL "I like this thing" Miserable twitter n****s:

[@chrislersonmaglalang9493]

13:04 T3rr0r: "Marvel" Also T3rr0r: *Shows a picture of Baman*

[@caffeinefrag]

Lootboxes in Overwatch 1 were far FAR better than the battlepass in OW2. You got them through leveling up or playing the arcade mode. I would just play the game and then when I'd look at the home screen I'd suddenly have like 30 lootboxes. And you could get in-game currency from duplicates, or just as an item in the lootbox - which you could then use to buy skins/emotes/etc. You'd see people who had 1000+ lootboxes just from playing the game - spending no money after they bought it.

[@Sandwichr]

That first game reminded me of all the old flash games I used to play. There were lots of really good flash games, all free and extremely accessible. It's crazy that there's basically nothing like that anymore. Mobile games don't even come close to the same quality

[@schrodingersdog5512]

One of the better f2p games is Warframe. It's a very grindy game, but due to in game systems, you can get literally everything just by putting in time and effort.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Fun ass game

[@KingOskar4]

Thank you for the video🎉... I've played a wide variety of Strategy Free To play games... And All of them I would also call "Free To Pay"... Simply because you HAVE to pay at some point to keep the game fun😢... And it gets hella expensive later on!

[@kingofcurseth]

are you a bot?

[@KingOskar4]

@@kingofcurseth No. For once, I do answer to you. And second, why would you think that? Did bots or A.I. learn to make that sophisticated comments? Free to Play games really ARE expensive to play! Today, I am playing Forge of Empires, if I want to keep the game fun, I reccommend for myself to pay 23€ to it every three weeks. The game, Forge, IS fun when I pay!

[@kingofcurseth]

@@KingOskar4 yea I just asked this because the comment just felt off and not human.

[@KingOskar4]

@@kingofcurseth Oh sorry then ☺️ no worried. I did some research and yea, there have been bots similar to my comment. I just was in a hurry and I wanted to metion Jim Sterling's "Fee to Pay" system (before he has become non-binary that is) ... Maybe I was on a hurry, who knows?! Well... I wish you a nice rest of the day. Goodbye.

[@NATETHEGR8.]

A few years back epic actually lowered the price of v-bucks by 20% so at least they've gone a little better with cosmetics

[@nitsuj6555]

Didnt see anyone mention this but with the fortnite battlepass, granted you grind through most of the levels, will give you enough in-game currency for the next battlepass AND extra. Which to date, makes their battlepass system the best. Most of the times as well its easy for me to just grind to level 100 and then buy the battlepass after, and really all I do is play casually with the boys and not focus on just missions and that.

[@KurausuEddy]

The cool part is that in Genshin the monetization is clearly focused on making you play more... - You need gems to run any gacha - To guarantee your ultra rare character you need to run the gacha between 75-90 times - Every time you get the character you want you enter a "reduced" state where the next ultra-rare character you get has a 50% chance of being what you want and a 50% chance of not being, If you don't win what you want then yes you will return to "normal" gacha. - If you don't have the patience to play and get your gems, you can advance the service with money, but the best value for money is a package where you earn gems every day for 30 days, for the same price as 600 gems at once you can buy this pack and get 300 gems right away and then 90 gems every day for a month, making you log in every day. - The game has its "battle pass" too, at first it seems like it's not worth the price, but then you realize that it's a very efficient way to earn items needed to make your characters strong.

[@ronaid-with-an-i]

but then you realize it's genshin and the moment that realization hits that stops being an upside

[@i.feel.so.colddd]

Him writing all of this: 🤓

[@KurausuEddy]

Particularly I like Genshin, despite being a clearly "dead" game, the content of the game is - History - Music - waifus - Events But if you're used to action RPGs, you can EASILY speedrun the main story, the characters' stories and unlock the map, and then what are you left with? Puzzles around the map, glueing your eyes to compasses to find all the collectibles and waiting 2 weeks for every new event you can finish in 2 hours... Genshin today is a game that I enter 30 minutes a day and I finished everything I had to do, the only exception are Mondays where bosses reset and I can collect them again, and every 2 weeks also on a Monday I can do the spiral abyss to collect the best rewards of the month

[@tuankhangcaonguyen5545]

​​@@KurausuEddy guy says history and genshin like they are actually related in any way. Fate/grand order is still more history than genshin. And even then, history can't be chomped down to be as generic as a 3d anime waifu degenerate game

[@StanleyG23]

@@tuankhangcaonguyen5545 Yeah, I think that's kind of on him. I'm pretty sure he meant for us to interpret "History" as the lore the game has.

[@tbfocean]

vid came in clutch i need to watch something while I eat

[@Obozo_Gaming]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, 13:38 but Dota 2 was the first game to have a Battle Pass. So Valve was the first to make one, that I'm aware of.

[@juanmanuelrodriguezarango4415]

You are correct, Dota 2 created the battle passes, in addition to the fact that they were much longer before, but people give credit to Fornite just because he promoted them as if he had invented them, in reality this type of thing is common happen very often. You can see another example of how people give merit to someone who doesn't deserve it, just because they said they invented something new and I promote it as such in this same video, like the case of paladins, the game is not even based on OW , paladins is literally a recycled game, they literally took the game modes and classes from the Global Agenda pvp mode and put them into a new game, what's more, paladins was initially called Global Agenda 2 when it was announced in 2012, almost 5 years before that OW came out. Also, none of these games invented anything new, there were already games like plants vs. zombies garden warfare, battleborn, gigantic, firefall, tf2, and a long list of similar games. People say that OW is original just because they sold it as such, but to this day all its characters are slightly more polished versions of the characters from the aforementioned games, but simplifying their mechanics even more, to the point that they become generic in most cases

[@braindeadspy9840]

Yep! Dota really was the first game to have a battlepass. while fortnite didn't make it fortnite sure did popularize it considering i haven't seen any other game aside from dota have a battlepass system until fortnite did it. then again dota 2 has always been lesser known game, it's not as easy to get into as league of legends nor is it as fast paced considering each match lasts 30-60 minutes on average and the genre being moba, something that not a lot of people could get into, really cripples the game. and not to mention the several array of hidden aspects that you won't know until a player tells you about it such as creep blocking, camp blocking, pulling, etc etc

[@Pepeutra]

I still wonder if people actually hate Genshin Impact or if it's just a joke, because like, i made fun of it a lot for months, and then i actually played the game and spent 7 hours straight playing the game non-stop

[@chiistiik]

Most haters of genshin never have played genshin for more than an hour ig lmao they instead want to keep looking at the fanbase, not the game

[@MusicComet]

I've played it a little bit and it can be fun but the monetization kind of ruined it for me. Perhaps I let it go because of its reputation and not the monetization (because tbf I played other predatory games and didn't complain as much). I think I wasn't sure if I wanted to sink my time into a game like that, doesn't feel rpg enough for me ig.

[@chiistiik]

@MusicComet that's cool, the great thing about genshin is you could actually enjoy the game with minimum or no spending at all. The only draw really to spending is if you REALLY want the character or want to be in the meta. I think genshin primarily focuses on the story of the game tho rather than the rpg aspect. Either way, still a great game overall! The character kits, the elements, SPECIALLY THE OST

[@Azure9577]

​@@chiistiik i don't like the fact the in a open world arpg inspired by botw, important story and lore is limited time, The game specifically wants you to keep playing genshin and nothing else

[@chiistiik]

@Gamer 1000 Mc fair enough, a lot of fans also complain about important lore being in limited time events. With that said, genshin runs on servers and that's probably why they need to keep an active playerbase. I haven't played botw but it's a full game from the get go, right? Not an online game? Either way, new limited events and story in them IS to keep the playerbase active and not /too/ bored 🤷‍♂️

[@vltraviolence7640]

"Who ever thought of battle pass is a horrible company" Valve: . . . Yeah, what he said.

[@L3ttr7]

I played ow1 on a free trial back on ps4, never on pc. But for whatever reason when I downloaded ow2 on pc I had all the characters and the new one free. Pretty lucky

[@wesdert]

It's funny how almost every single free to play game makes more than an actual game that you pay for.

[@hex9318]

Loving the music choices!

[@dan4ikp4ola]

0:36 9 dollars for Gmod and you get an 1000 hours of fun. *THE END* Also i highly recommend the cry of fear as the best free horor.

[@fenexus404]

I'm so glad that you tried some niche indie games. No one gives any attention to games like Overwatch and Fortnite

[@no1shinjirofan]

Is this a joke lol

[@FatWalterWhite69]

@@no1shinjirofanit’s obviously a joke you retard

[@fenexus404]

@@no1shinjirofan what do you think?

[@8instantramen]

Good topic man but I feel the quality dropped mid way through video but your point still came across. LoL would've been a good selection here, I understand why you didn't mention it because...... that'll require you to play LoL. That game has EVERY method of microtransactions including charging for characters- not only that but has **a loot box system where you don't even keep what you unboxed** unless you have the currency for it (which you get from scrapping your unboxed skins)

[@ludenberghia]

youre right about the fact that the quality of the video dropped mid way, but its cuz the whole video was about him crying about fucking cosmetics. why not talk about p2w gacha games for example. those are a lot more unhealthy than just spending money on skins n such.

[@DemiCape]

Also he said paladins was a rip off when it is not. Like even in the beginning of the game release it was still different, many characters being seen as rip offs actually having different kits from the "overwatch counterpart". As a player of both games who has played both games since 2017 they clearly offers different gameplay experiences, like there is so many functions and cc that only exists in paladins and not in overwatch and the opposite is also true for overwatch.

[@DemiCape]

You can't exactly be like there is no point in playing paladins because just by playing overwatch i have already played every paladins characters because they are clearly totally the same characters and not unique, that maldamba sure is something i have seen in overwatch before.

[@DemiCape]

I also can totally play an ice witch that flies around in rapid speed everywhere that shoots slow projectiles with splash damage in overwatch.

[@DemiCape]

Anway it is true that some characters and abilities seems similar though, but by only focusing on the similar aspects of characters you are completely ignoring everything else about it.

[@ibisskb]

As soon as I heard 3:55, my brain said: "You want both? Go play a Mystery Dungeon game." These are more akin to a continuous RPG where you don't lose everything when it's game over, but it has a fun roguelike game loop that gives you enough challenges to easily spend hundreds of hours in it.

[@TheBBCSlurpee]

Fax

[@taliats]

Pretty rich Overwatch fans saying Palandins is a ripoff when Overwatch itself is a ripoff of TF2 And funnily enough, I bought the original Overwatch and ended up hating it, but Paladins is really enjoyable to me.

[@aregulargenericname8794]

How the fuck is overwatch a rip off of tf2? Their different fps genres at this point

[@ChesterManfred]

The more footage I see from Overwatch, the more parts I see that are absolutely ripped from Tf2. And I said it because it just looked really, but really the same just by the front. It turns out, it was more of a ripoff than I thought, lol

[@dh5661]

My man puts Warframe and TF2 in the thumbnail, two AMAZING f2P games, and doesn’t talk about them.

[@meems_o]

Love your voice, gives me a weird sense of nostalgia, like I'm talking to a friend I haven't seen in years.

[@dellyphilla1215]

I feel you should bring TF2, cause while it is fun.. the stuff it does with F2P players and its lootcrate system is downright disgusting. And I'm saying this as a huge TF player myself

[@mrskyper7804]

TF2 have the worst F2P montization compare to valve other F2P games (dota 2 and CS:GO ) and yes i spend alot of money on TF2

[@michaelthesanta3610]

Regular AAA f2p game: Lets have battle passes and cosmetics. Valve: **Casually builds economy out of hats**

[@ChesterManfred]

Hats rule the world. Nothing is better than hats.

[@AlohaBrawlhalla]

As a Brawlhalla player myself, I swear once you’re in, it’s hard not to spend at least a little money on the game💀

[@hansennoah1]

Im mid plat with close to 300 hrs in the game, never spent a cent not even tempted once. And im a big spender in other f2p games with cosmetics idk why

[@apestheape7482]

Casually vibing while I hear Saturn Barz in the background😎

[@rgmoses2189]

9:10 Man, I got bullied so much in middle school for being too poor to afford overwatch and playing paladins instead and 6 years later you going on this passive-aggressive rant brings me pain far beyond what anyone can imagine. But just to add, after getting overwatch a year after starting paladins I ended up sticking to paladins and even chose to invest in the champions pass because I liked its mechanics better. After overwatch became overwatch 2 just gave me fewer reasons to return as they reworked my main Doomfist while making him shit at the same time before making him op then nerfing him again when I heard of the news. Plus after playing for I believe 6 hours over a weekend and still not being halfway through unlocking Rammatra made me realize that playing overwatch has become more of a chore now while I actually still enjoy playing paladins.

[@spongiedev]

Ik this won’t get a sequel but the game “One Million Fatal Guns” is a free, less stylized rouge-like Ultra-kill with the main gimmick being that it has, one million different weapons with there only being like 20 or so base weapons and the million comes from all the different modifiers that can appear on weapons

[@theofficialhankhill3280]

infinitely based how you included americas most blunted as BGM in the outro

[@JimboniumF]

He's used other DOOM instrumentals too!

[@AZthemute]

the bit about the other f2p game with gambling made me laugh too hard, liked and subbed instantly

[@X.x.SwagMaster420.x.X]

3:11 I love you T3rr0r. From this sentence alone you have gained the highest level of my respect.

[@ChesterManfred]

I'd rather shoot myself too

[@TheeDeprivedOne]

Babe, wake up new t3rr0r vid dropped

[@Queek_Headtaker]

Dunno why but you talking about the playerbase skill at 10:53 and showing footage of playing against bots was kinda funny

[@deathkingZa7799]

He probably didn't know that beginner bot match is a thing considering how most of the stuff he said ib the video is surface level observation

[@Nathan-hv4qj]

@@deathkingZa7799 Yeah he didn't even mention the talents, cards and items.

[@wamfles]

"BOT Ryan + T3rr0r *FAMAS* Bot Walt" this is not a coincidence

[@FatWalterWhite69]

Shut up degenerate weeb

[@charyster4500]

Even though most people shit on genshin, its actually one of the more 'friendly' of the gacha games, mainly because it is basically a single player game, so there is no going against people that have better characters than you, it is only you and the game, of course, there is content in the game that can only be beaten with certain characters due to how strong they are, but by the time you reach the level to beat said content, you should already have at least one or two good characters.

[@トーキ-g8v]

Eh, I prefer Super mecha champions, the only gacha inside is just for skins and you can grind out all the mechas and character though it takes a long time. But it is a multiplayer game, but it isn’t a pay to win style good enough, all the free mechas you get at the start are oddly enough pretty high on the meta too.

[@charyster4500]

​@Milkitzu it clearly shows you don't play many gachas then, because (not saying gacha in genshin is good) you are at least somewhat guaranted what you want if you save enough, where in most other games you are required to be lucky.

[@polarnite]

You can't talking sense with them. Gacha + China + Anime girl is big no no for "alpha male", they can't accept good game have those things in it. If they was right, play genshin making me degenerated then playing deep rock galatic making me saint (fyi, search one video about battlepass on youtube and you find first 10 comments is talking about how great DRG battlepass is).

[@harrylane4]

The issue is just how bad the gacha is, compared to other gachas. It’s pretty abysmal tbh

[@harrylane4]

@@charyster4500 genshin’s gacha is infamous in the gacha community mate

[@connie4334]

What bugs the hell out of me is that we’ve collectively decided a cosmetic skin is worth $10-$20

[@shiningfilmzph]

This man deserves more subscribers

[@mordecaigaming4203]

How does 27 million subs sound?

[@niggtube4482]

this sissy deserved to be topped

[@eighty92]

Loved the video, but I had to stop by and say the background music you used was legendary, everything from gran turismo to gorillaz. You're goated for leaving the tracklist in the description.

[@danielholdsworth4875]

You should try a game called the walking zombie 2, it's pretty pay to win but you can still have fun with it. The game is like a first person rpg shooter on PC and mobile. Anyway I love videos and hope you keep creating.

[@danielholdsworth4875]

@@cheesewizard0727 Ye after the main quest ended there wasn't much to do and energy did get annoying, however for a mobile game I think it was pretty good.

[@thegreatscribbles960]

Your kinda right with the loot boxes with overwatch but the fact you can't get anything now with out paying is dumb they should have just kept both. It wasn't as bad as you think during events you got mostly those types of skins and they were fairly generous with giving them out I also miss being able to buy skins yourself with in game currency whenever not when its in the shop

[@konogus]

some countries banned loot boxes and people were complaining about this system, so now we got the « no random rewards » that everyone wanted i guess

[@bitcodercz]

Every game is free, as long as you know how to get it ;)

[@notarandomuser5800]

One piece references no way

[@skytheemperor]

You’re right at 100% when you say that more a game is expensive more it becomes hard to access for kids and yeah i don’t blame studios for making cosmetics in F2P games Since they need some money to continue to update their games

[@spacefalcon6900]

I would like to point out one free to pay game which turned into a free to play, the game is very popular on mobile, i am talking about brawl stars, before it relyed on premium currency a bit too much, but then.......they introduced The brawl pass, i thought that it was another thing to earn money but it was not, like sure if you buy the brawl pass you'll get extra rewards (which are not that over powered) and a free brawler (character) and extra quests to complete the brawl pass faster, but it's not just that any free to play player can afford it cause it gives 90 gems free meanwhile it costs 169, so you can buy 1 brawl pass every other season, plus on top of that they removed loot boxs from the game, and they also give plenty of free rewards every event, like easter, Chinese New year, new year, Christmas and random free rewards here and there sprinkled on top (plus they also add two characters every update so you can't really max out your account). I have been playing for 3 years and without any payment i have already completed everything till this point with every character max level but still i haven't run out of things to do, after you max your characters you can complete their masteries aswell which will take 2 and a half years to do if they stop adding more characters.

[@drubo17]

there once 4 dwarves in a planet call Hoxxes “rock and stone, to the bone”

[@haythem8943]

2:18 Let them cook 👌

[@ChesterManfred]

This made me laugh way too much

[@pokeinator7834]

Fortnite:the golden standard for a f2p game Tf2:don’t bring a boy to a man’s game

[@Sofishticated792]

13:44 no, Epic Games didn't create battle passes, I think that Valve did, Epic just popularized it

[@mrskyper7804]

the first ever battle pass was made by valve on game called DOTA 2 and it was way to fund valve tornuments and having 40M prize pool speaks for its self

[@kolonarulez5222]

I used to spend $60~ for potentially years of entertainment and now I'm realizing I've given a mobile game almost $300 for the pleasure of clicking a button sooner

[@guava9343]

As someone who grew up with overwatch, I can say for a fact that paladins is superior. Aside from the battle pass obv. And I believe ow2 players should legitimately give it a shot. The characters are more original than people think. Lex and androxus play absolutely nothing like reaper and mcree. And of course victor is similar to 76 since he’s supposed to be an easy character to learn. Also paladins only came out 3 months after ow, and the game has always been way more experimental with what they try. Siege also plays nothing like payload.

[@ChesterManfred]

My condolences. Your suffering must be unbearable.

[@guava9343]

@@ChesterManfred I mean, still fps. They all suck

[@ChesterManfred]

Most of the time

[@Jelqing_My_Penitz]

Saturn barz for the heal and hurt segment music nice 👍

[@AnekoF90]

Funniest part about genshin is that you don't even need to pay to get characters easily on that game (that paid thing on the game is mostly for skins), you just gotta save up some stuff and not waste it on some random shit. It's an enjoyable game just to play it without worrying about grinding the hell out of you to get characters. You'll get some while you are playing anyway.

[@akusen9]

Funniest part about genshin is that its not even a game. there is the bare minimum of stuff to interact with to atleast emulate the feeling of purpose, where then you or someone that you recommend the game to will eventually spend money on obtaining access to character models and not waste time on doing boring random shit.

[@AnekoF90]

@@akusen9 you ever played it at least?

[@akusen9]

@@AnekoF90 i played since release until we had a food delivering event and literally vowed to not touch the game or anything that company produces until the day i died. i dont mind other people playing it, until people make excuses to make things seem better when they're not.

[@AnekoF90]

@akusen the game is still enjoyable and you don't need to spend anything on it. It still a Ling Long mobile game, so makes sense it be filled with stupid grind or whatever.

[@Azure9577]

​@@AnekoF90 here's the thing, what am I supposed to enjoy while playing genshin? Graphics? I don't care about graphics and there are far more beautiful games out there Gameplay and combat?, The games combat is very simplistic because its a mobile game, i rather play DMC Now here's the part that infuriates me the most about genshin *Story and lore* The game makes story events limited time only, meaning of you miss them, you never be able to play them again IMAGINE if final fantasy or biowere rpgs were like that, imagine

[@stupercosit]

i love the gorillaz beat you put under the heal & hurt section of the vid

[@javonyounger5107]

Lex and Reaper play almost nothing alike, and the only thing they have in common is that Lex's magnums and Reaper's shotguns have similar firing rates.

[@cesar6447]

for real, i dont know if this guy thinks Overwacth invented dual wielding or some shit...

[@Water_Connoisseur]

I'll take the chance to promote limbus company, a free to play game made by an indie company that is really generous and caring with it's playerbase with great story and designs that also builds upon two other previous games made by the company set in a dystopian city. It's available for mobile and pc so if you want to give a good f2p game a try, you should definitely do it. And if you like the story and general vibe of the game you should give the other games a try

[@henrijsja741]

I think you should of looked at warframe as it does the f2p model very interesting as it has no loot boxes and in game paid curency can be earned trough in game trading. Most of the paid stuff im pretty sure are just kosmetiks and kan be again earned through grinding and in game trading.

[@TheFifthAngel]

Bro i literally just got a Genshin ad right before the video 💀

[@Grace-rv8ko]

I really do prefer f2p games that use paid cosmetics instead of giving people an advantage

[@ANTHONY-TECHSMITH]

I think we all do

[@beans613]

11:19 you have my attention🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@inky1_]

Free to pay games are amazing change my mind

[@gamrknight8060]

They're great if you just want to play games and not care about paying cash. But in some cases you take a dip in the user experience because they gotta make money somehow (Halo Infinite perhaps being the most infamous example, where was practically impossible to get cosmetics as a F2P at launch, now it's a little bit better but it's still not even close to the level of H3 or Reach)

[@inky1_]

@@gamrknight8060 I don't think you got the joke...

[@AmberAugustReal]

I love how you put down spider man as someone who isn’t actually in fortnite while talking about how hard it is to remember if someone is or isn’t and used a pic of his in game skin

[@REB_reb]

Not Cockville having a positive rating ☠️

[@Catitect]

Best youtuber in my opinion. Every time u release a video i watch it instantly and it makes my day!!! 😀

[@Thatspaceperson]

Agreed

[@StanleyG23]

3:13 To be fair, Genshin Impact has the most amount of content out of all of the other free to play games mentioned in this video. Plus, you really don't even need to spend any money on the game if you don't want to since the game is easy enough and forgiving even if you don't spend any money. It is by far the best free to play open world game you can play. 14:26 Although, I do agree with this even if the Welkin Moon is a pretty decent deal in Genshin.

[@GrubbusHubbus]

PEDOPHILE. 👆

[@idonthavegoodusernames]

Personally I can’t wait to watch this guy absolutely dunk on gacha games and aspects. Yeah sure genshin is better than other gacha games in aspects but having less of something that’s bad doesn’t really make it better.

[@varyhandsomeguy]

But why would anyone play genshin considering most people have a console and genshin is just some shitty mobile game?

[@GrubbusHubbus]

@@varyhandsomeguy Plus, most consoles have good open-world fantasy experiences. See: -Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild -The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim -The Elder Scrolls Online -Sonic Frontiers

[@StanleyG23]

@@GrubbusHubbus Yes, but none of those are free and Genshin Impact is also available for PS4, PS5 and PC. (I find it kind of funny how you included Sonic Frontiers on this list since its open world is kind of empty. You could've included Elden Ring instead).

[@Hollowdude15]

Free to play games are still more better then pay to win games and awesome video man :]

[@kitkatdaboss333]

I love free to pay games!!!

[@Thatspaceperson]

☠️☠️☠️

[@FatWalterWhite69]

Npc

[@cattysplat]

Free to pay (with your lifeforce)

[@mr.slappii513]

My belief is that all games should have some form of demo version to play so you can see if you actually like it before buying it. Demos are amazing for this as it lets you know, at least to a degree, what your getting into and if it's to your liking before you spend the money on a game you end up not liking.

[@endlexp466]

We love "free to pay"

[@MahmoudPM]

As a warframe player, the game is a free to play game but it is also pay to skip or play to grind because you can get any of the resources from the game for free but you need to grind for it but by paying you skip the grind and get it instantly but skins ( not the actual characters) are for money. You can also get the premium currency for free

[@DAGreen43]

14:41 you think thats excessive? Try rec room where a necklace is over $30 to own

[@ModelK-8904]

Don't think I didn't catch that Saturnz Barz instrumental beat 🔥🔥🔥

[@ThatOneMartinPerson]

14:47 wheezer

[@OrangeJani]

The title got me thinking that I can play the games freely

[@fancyender5916]

Free to play, more like an incentive to pay

[@ToonsInk.]

TF2 may be one of the only good free to play games. You can get cosmetics for free, you don't get a disadvantage for not spending money, there's no battle pass, and it's genuinely just fun to play. It's not perfect (bots) and the game hasn't had updates for a while, but it's still a super fun game.

[@czebosak]

After 260 hours of playing with a premium account I haven't received a hat drop ONCE

[@ToonsInk.]

@@czebosak I meant weapons and stuff like that

[@czebosak]

@@ToonsInk. "You can get cosmetics for free" doesnt seem like it, weapons arent cosmetics

[@ToonsInk.]

@@czebosak true

[@ToonsInk.]

@@czebosak Back after 2 months to say: yes. You can get cosmetics for free. Besides the achievment ones, there are the famous goggles and hat that can be achieved by killing someone who has them equipped.

[@actualhollowreborn]

I have +400 hours in warframe and games like war thunder and i must say, they are worth it, there is some gold even in the most forgotten places

[@ShadowStellar14]

The title says free to pay and the thumbnail says free to play lol.

[@jovron4k119]

Because that's the content?

[@ShadowStellar14]

@@jovron4k119 I just thought it was cool

[@ANIKETshhh]

Obviously...