Free up 3 effect blocks with this Line 6 POD Go HACK | TONECLONERS

[@sanzanig]

I've installed the new firmare (1.40). Substituting the block definition with "blockx" : { "@position" : x }, where x is the block you want to free it works in any position You can free also the equalizer block!

[@kurtg1602]

That is Sooo nice - Thank you!

[@CALOGERODILORENZO]

Puoi fare un esempio più chiaro per sbloccare alcuni blocchi ?

[@adriandavidpayne]

I just get errors when I do this. Can you explain it a little more clearly?

[@JRinSparks]

This worked perfectly for me - I have an external wah so I don't need the Pod Go's and the volume pedal doesnt get used that much - having 2 extra blocks made a big difference for me, even using the real low DSP effects is fine for what I do. Thanks Ben!

[@jakedibiase7404]

Also just to report my experience. I updated my POD Go to 1.40 firmware and this still works. My presets with the deleted blocks and additional fx still work fine. I haven't actually tried installing a new edited preset file, but the ones I had on there already still work fine.

[@KristohanongBisdakMusic]

Wow! Nice hack, very useful. Works with the 1.30.0 firmware. Thanks much!

[@Mr6gatekeeper9]

Wow thanks so much. After watching you video I went and used this method to make up multiple different combinations of patches.

[@dannfeltrin]

Dude!!! This is amazing! I was struggling not being able to add enough effects for some songs, and I use my Cry Baby before the Pod Go, so I was able to get 3 more effects. Life-saver feat! Thank you thank you!!

[@seiunbklicky4364]

THANK YOU!!!! All I wanted was one more slot and removing the FX Loop did the trick in seconds. Put it back in name 5 Free Slots and off to the races.

[@mickeybravo6702]

Just amplifying (Dad pun...) what others have said. Truly amazing "hack". I almost never use the volume pedal and not using the 4-cable method, so being able to do this is great, especially because I usually want a looper with 4-5 pedals active or available in the preset but have to sacrifice one of the four default blocks to do so. Thanks so much for figuring this out and sharing your knowledge.

[@wesdaniel9286]

GOLD!! Thank you sir!! The Fx loop and EQ were driving me crazy bc I have no use for those!! True potential unlocked!!

[@jakedibiase7404]

Just got a Line 6 POD Go the other day. This video was really helpful. My POD has an earlier firmware, 1.12.0, and also POD Go Edit version 1.11 (still available if you google). I was able to delete both the volume pedal and the EQ block. Being able to add in another effect is a godsend. Thanks so much for the video!

[@jefflogan334]

This was a great workaround. Thanks a lot for posting. As an aside, since you have to allocate DSP to the amp, if just using as a quick stompbox solution into a house backline where you don't want to use an amp, using an amp like the Del Sol or Busy One uses only 5-6% of DSP. I'm unsure of what cab is best in terms of DSP but found that allows usage of almost anything.

[@BenCravenMusic]

This resource is terrific :) benvesco.com/store/helix-dsp-allocations/

[@jefflogan334]

@@BenCravenMusic - that’s how I knew. Hahaha

[@JoshHGuitar]

As someone who doesn't use the amp modeling or speaker emulations, this hack is the only thing that makes the Pod Go worthwhile for me. Thankfully I found one used for $299..

[@kevinbrennen6773]

Was wanting to add another chorus to my overdrive for certain songs but was out of DSP, I'm definitely trying this today!! I never use the Effects Loop and rarely the volume as well!

[@asant90]

I just needed two more slots. Thank youuuuu

[@rashido_grey]

Just did this today, works wonderfully!

[@tehsamjones]

This is amazing! Thanks for the video.

[@martijn3151]

I'm at 2.01 and it's still possible to remove the FX loop, AMP and CAB blocks, should you not want to use those.

[@larfadoodle]

i was able to delete every block on version 1.40 thanks dude!

[@Locrian1]

I was able to delete the EQ block as well......just to note, the blocks you need to delete ("block 4" or whatever) are found further down the text file. There are other references to blocks further up the page that should be ignored. Also it's worth changing the name of the preset in the text file itself as well as changing its file name on disk because for me at least changing the Disk Name did not change the preset name. I'm on Mac.

[@deanbennison4361]

Genius - Thanks Ben

[@СтанимирВърбанов]

Thank you really, really much for this!

[@TheStudedude]

cheers Ben, nice one

[@volkerengelbert5658]

Brilliant! Thank you.

[@TheSrvsrv123]

hey thank you ,this is great,I just want to clarify ,this is per preset? it doesnt affect the othe presets right? or this is global and there is no going back? tks

[@BenCravenMusic]

@@TheSrvsrv123 Yes, it's only per preset.

[@kurtg1602]

I am sorry, guys: This hack is ended by FW 1.40. At least I am not clever enough to do it after updating to 1.40.

[@BenCravenMusic]

Wow!!! I'm sorry I'm not able to confirm or come up with a workaround because I sold my Pod GO due to the input impedance problem.

[@kurtg1602]

@@BenCravenMusic Thank you for your response. It seems like the Pod Go is performing more checks on the .pgp file. It says "Target is incompatible". Maybe others are keen to try a workaround?

[@markfelts6511]

Importing an already created hacked preset works for me on 1.40.

[@kurtg1602]

@@markfelts6511 Thank you for info!

[@EnmandsBand1]

Brilliant thank you

[@jbonillaguitar]

honestly 4 slots is enough considering we have snapshots, what I would want is parallel routing. Fingers crossed

[@gerhardhanzl2372]

Tried it with 1.41: delete whole block works again

[@warwickben]

removed the amp and cab and got two more effects , but notice effects were not blocked out any more. like with certain combos of effects it wouldnt let me pick others. like useing looper wouldnt let me use ampeg liquifier.

[@JensRefshoj]

Thank you Ben. What did you buy instead of your Pod Go.

[@emach07]

Dang! Now this is the true definition of digging deep into it! Amazing!. You really know your stuff here. I know you're probably super busy but I have to ask as I've been pulling my hair out for a while now on this issue. And this is for anyone else out these as well. I can't seem to add and external overdrive pedal in the fx loop of the Pod Go without non stop hissing. As if the noise gate has no effect on the pedal whatsoever. I've tried everything I could possibly think of. I need to know if it can be done or if I have a defective unit as I've tried everything imaginable and mine just will not except any analog overdrives, boosters, etc. in the FX loop without either buzzing, hiss, or both (depending on battery or adapter being used). Thanks in advance :))

[@BenCravenMusic]

I'm sorry I'm not going to be much help. I've sold my Pod Go already because of the input impedance problem. I suspect you might have your effects loop set to "line" level rather than "effect" level, ie. the effect loop is too loud for a distortion pedal to work as expected. There might be a setup menu somewhere to configure it. Good luck!

[@emach07]

@@BenCravenMusic Thanks Ben for your reply. I recall seeing the options "Line" and "Instrument" levels but not "effects". Maybe I was in the wrong section though. But i think you nailed it in that the fx loop is too loud or hot to handle and external overdrive or distortion pedal. It seems to run fine as long as I run the external pedal externally lolol (outside of the unit into the "guitar-in) I'm not fond of having the digital distortion "after" the analog distortion but I was still able to get a pretty darn good sound running it that way. Just lost a touch of the dynamics as digital doesn't cut through the mix like analog to my ears but I think with the tube amps preamp running last in the chain it's still dynamic enough (4 cable method). This is for emergency live gig backup anyway so it should do just fine. Thanks again Ben! Great video btw

[@PostColorGear]

Two questions. 1. I know when you push the pedal down (toe side) it swaps to the other one (wah/volume) - does it get confused or does it basically do nothing if you do that? Also what did you mean about dsp limitations? I hadn't heard about that

[@brayans2859]

Not sure about your first question since I haven't tried this before, but the DSP basically refers to the computing power of the pedal. The pedal has a limit to how much it can process, some effects use more DSP and some use less. That's why some will be greyed out if you have a lot of effects in your signal chain already

[@JimmyD718]

Awesome 👏

[@antonionaranjot7]

What txt editor do you use ??? I tried on my windows 10 laptop with the notepad … No cigar

[@marcioeidt9026]

Wow!!!!! Nice...

[@frankalbertsson128]

Fantastic!! can i use open office to edit? When i open the file in notepad it`s just a mess.. But in open office it opens as on your video. But when i save it ,what format should i use?

[@BenCravenMusic]

Hi Frank. I'm not sure on the format. Just some sort of text format should be good. I doubt you can damage the Pod Go by trying to import a preset if it can't read it.

[@duartecunhaleao]

Visual Studio Code is a good and light editor you can use to edit JSON files. It will highlight the syntax nicely for you (as well as warn you of any syntax errors you may introduce).

[@tuonofly]

Hi Ben, congratulation...Cool Video! So, can I do the same thing with a POD HD500X? Thanks so much..Danilo

[@BenCravenMusic]

Sorry, I doubt it Danilo. HD is completely different technology.

[@Javlos15]

Hi Ben, one question, i can do this in a pedalboard line 6 amplifi?

[@BenCravenMusic]

Sorry Carlos l wouldn't know!

[@wenchcarroteh06]

Amazing video! Question, do you know of a way to assign the input and output of the fx loop to different parts of the chain? Like a faux parallel routing hack? Thanks in advance.

[@accentontheoff]

Hi, if I understand correctly, all we would be doing here is editing one, single preset? Nothing else changes? On another note, can we reset if things go wrong. Thanks!!

[@BenCravenMusic]

Yes it's simply at the preset level. If it doesn't work properly or you want to restore things .. just switch to a different preset!

[@accentontheoff]

@@BenCravenMusic Sweet.

[@marekgitarzysta5193]

Thanks mate! But why do you say you can't change EQ? You can do the same with EQ as with wah, vol, fx loop. And what's nice about doing this trick with EQ is that you can re select it. Unlike wah/vol/fx

[@BenCravenMusic]

Hi Marek. It just doesn't work for me. Pod Go Edit will allow you to select a replacement effect, but it won't actually engage inside the Pod Go. Same for amp and cab blocks.

[@marekgitarzysta5193]

@@BenCravenMusic i just played with it a little bit and actually had problems of all sorts: preset could not be saved, no output, inability to select anything. It happened with any of the extra free blocks. And all of a sudden all clicked into place and worked like a charm. I have no idea what I did or didn't do. I guess, but need to confirm, all of the problems happened when any of the unofficial free blocks was the last one in the chain

[@BenCravenMusic]

@@marekgitarzysta5193 Oh wow that's interesting. I'm sure there are all sorts of combinations Line 6 didn't test or code against.

[@Joanmaofficial]

@@BenCravenMusic Glad to read this! I tried this with the EQ and worked so well!! Personally for my Rhythm sound I prefer to use the EQ of the amp (modeled and real amp), so that being said.. I tried it and worked quite good... thanks brother!

[@Locrian1]

Yeah EQ block deletes for me no problem.

[@monterreyarce]

Thank you Ben! Your explanation is very useful. I have two questions: 1) do you know if it's possible to use the same principle of edit preset program and add a second amp to the chain?, 2) there are some way to edit preset program and split the signal like an Helix pedalboard? Greetings from Bolivia.

[@BenCravenMusic]

Hey Javier! Oh, interesting ideas .. I'm not aware of any other way yet to modify the patches or the routing. If it were possible to add two amps to the chain, I suspect it would eat up the available CPU pretty quickly.

[@maario028]

Very interesting hack, Ben. These changes are visible on the Pod screen too? Can I edit the expanded preset normally on the Pod or it only works at the computer?

[@BenCravenMusic]

I believe you can edit it on the Pod itself as well.

[@Force2BRW]

If you delete the EQ block, can you then add it back if you ever want an EQ? You said that once you delete a block, you can't add it back (assuming because it is not selectable in the menu options), but EQ is selectable, so it deleting the EQ just making the block fully open to use, even if you choose to put the EQ back in that spot?

[@BenCravenMusic]

The changes are only for that preset. So it's easy enough to delete the preset and start again if you want to add the blocks back in.

[@ottofothy]

I'm on Windows 8.What text editor should i use to open the preset? I could open it in notepad but it's showing mishmash.

[@BenCravenMusic]

Not sure about that Otto, sorry. I would expect the preset file to open up fine in Notepad.

[@Elvenpath2]

I have the same problem guys :( Any solution already? Thanks!

[@BenCravenMusic]

@@Elvenpath2 Perhaps try downloading the preset I created for this video (check the description for the link.) If it works, you can substitute whatever you want for the pedals or create a blank template. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2eVpKGHZ9WbgMk

[@literalghost929]

Nice!! How does it work through Pod Go though? Does clicking the wah/volume pedal switch on/off the effect or is this PG Edit only?

[@BenCravenMusic]

I believe the wah/volume switch becomes unassigned once the blocks are cleared. Then you are free to assign it to anything you want.

[@axelencinas3403]

Great video bro Do you think it would have any problem with a next update?

[@BenCravenMusic]

Hey Axel. I don't know the answer to that, sorry!

[@PeterWieselquist]

Was able to delete the amp and cab too.

[@spindal_1]

Does this hack still work with version 1.4? The text in the file seems different?

[@alessiobassguitar]

Fantastic video! Do you know if it is possible to go back from this modified version, with 7 effects for example, to the standard one? I mean it would be just necessary to re-overwrite a standard preset?

[@oliviercambier1350]

Hi Ben, Thanks for your work. WHen I edit a .pgp , the code is on only one line, and it's too hard to identify blocks . How do you make it ?

[@oliviercambier1350]

Hi, It is resolved !!! Have you tried adding an amp ??

[@matthewneedham2125]

This is insane!!! Iv wanted to get rid of that pesky wah pedal!!! So I can have a compressor and a drive pedal before my amp yaaaaaaaaay!!!!

[@matthewneedham2125]

It took me a couple of tries but it worked flawlessly!!!! I am finally a satisfied pod go buyer!!! I can’t believe they don’t allow you to do this on the unit itself…. Just so happy to get everything I need all lined up the way I want to see it!

[@CFeliPO]

Is there a way to do this on Mac OS X ?

[@itsiansu]

Does this affect all presets or just that one overwritten preset?

[@billytheo9187]

Do you think this hack can cause any damage to the pod go because this hack make the pod go run above the dsp limit? Cheers!

[@BenCravenMusic]

Hey Billy. If you are at all worried about that, please DO NOT ATTEMPT this hack. I do not want to be responsible for any damage to your Pod. In my experiments, the Pod does a good job of limiting CPU automatically, and simply won't let you assign any effects that may push it over the limit.

[@peterkilgour1135]

Is this reversible?

[@BenCravenMusic]

Absolutely! It's just a single preset. The other presets are not affected.

[@CedricSatterfield]

@@BenCravenMusic Yes, you just import the original preset (or any preset) into that slot----unless you know Json. :-)

[@kelvinpell4571]

Does this work on Mac. I've tried it several times, but when importing the modded preset, it comes up with an incompatible error message. Could you post a link to a modded preset Ben?

[@kelvinpell4571]

Replying to my own post - but I'm pretty sure that either Line 6 have altered the code in POD GO 1.30; OR this does not work for Mac. I seem to have a LOT more code in the .txt file, with Snapshots; several "block0" and "block4" entires and a number of "pedalstate" entries which all seem to be interlinked. You would need to understand a lot more about code than I do to ensure all the various levels were deleted correctly. Shame

[@GENXJOPLIN]

It does work on mac. Just did it myself with mac

[@kelvinpell4571]

@@GENXJOPLIN Yes it got sorted; the confusion was over the layout of the text and opening the file in the Mac Text Editor

[@GS-uy4xo]

@@kelvinpell4571 which editor did you have to use for proper layout?

[@kelvinpell4571]

@@GS-uy4xo I used mac Text Editor and deleted only the DSP sections of the text

[@micwalt]

Amazing!