Freedom Writers (break-up scene)

[@laurynfigueroa3508]

her husband left to go to seattle and be a doctor LMFAOO.

[@courtneybridge1427]

Is it bad I've never watched one full episode of Grey's anatomy

[@KingComp67_-io3iz]

@@courtneybridge1427 nah

[@starz.365]

changed his name and all

[@iamtaylaraee]

@@courtneybridge1427 yes.

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4392]

He got an offer from the decepticons and he accepted!

[@TVegaC]

this movie is so good at making you hate every character who is against Ms. G.

[@jamierojano7915]

He wasn’t against Ms. G. He loved her and respected her. She was his wife...as to her, her husband. But she really wasn’t there for him. She knew she was not putting a effort bc every time she answered her husband, she said “I’m sorry” sometimes even couples who are not married still need affection. I remembered once when I was a undergraduate and working, I had a gf. She really loved me but I could never make time for her, then one day she came up to me crying saying she wanted to break up. I felt bad. I felt sick. Bc I knew at that moment when a woman cries for you, she loves you. So I do feel for her, but I do feel for him as well. He wanted his wife more but she was wrapped to much in her work. Couples need love. Clearly she was not giving it to him. Only knicks and crannies of it.

[@SuperGabetendo777]

@@jamierojano7915 Exactly! Perfect way to sum it up. I really love what the teacher was doing, but at the end of the day she was neglecting their relationship over the kids.

[@dennisardakis5857]

@@jamierojano7915 Since they failed to reconcile, I can never watch this movie again.

[@winxclubfairiesrule1]

they obviously love each other, but I don't think they were in love with each other. There are many people who are able to separate their work from their personal lives, but she wasn't able to. Even when she was home, she committed her time to working on things for the kids and working several jobs to do things for them. She wasn't wrong to do that, its inspirational to me all the lengths she went through for the kids simply because she knew it was what needed to be done. Like she said, nobody had to ask her to do any of what she did, she simply did it. However, she neglected him. You may not see it that way because she showed support to him when he needed it, she asked him to spend time with her and the kids, she put in minimal effort to me. She loves him, but she loves the kids more. She doesn't need him. She can provide for herself. She can have fun, be happy, work hard, and live life with her kids. In her future, I can honestly say, she doesn't really see him, she sees the kids she is helping. She sees them succeeding and graduating and living life . Yes, Marriage is give and take. Marriage is compromise and talking things out and being united. However, what is she getting from him that she doesn't get from the kids. They make her happy, they give her a purpose, they give her unending support and they believe in her to make things happen. They trust her more than they have ever trusted anybody and she knows this. This is why he left. yeah, they might have been able to work it out, but neither of them would have been happy.

[@SakuroAlex]

I think you're wrong. He never really asked her. He was always beating around the bush, not addressing the problem. She never knew. I mean, how could she? If he would have told her he felt neglected, she could have at least make more of an effort. He never really said it up until this moment. So yeah she did neglect him a bit, but it's his fault for not demanding he wanted. He's a selfish dick for leaving without even trying to work it out. He never really loved her. He was Just in love with the Idea of the Relationship he wanted to have with her. Real life is not like this. Also he left within a year of not getting the attention he wanted. I'm sorry but that's really quick. Not how a marriage should works. When it gets a little though don't just leave.

[@winxclubfairiesrule1]

@@SakuroAlex he's selfish because he wanted to get out of a relationship that was bad for him? She didn't make him feel loved, she didn't make him happy anymore, and he didn't cheat on her. He didn't abuse her in anyway. Instead, he had to watch her find happiness with other people. And the reason they didn't try to work past it is because they both know that no matter what, now that she has built a relationship with the kids, she will always put them first. I don't think either of them would have been happy in the end. Yes, if they both put in more effort, maybe they could have a better relationship for a couple more years, but eventually it'll be more unhappiness. Some people, after some time together, just aren't compatible with each other anymore. I'd rather end my relationship than try to fix it when I know in the end, it'll just lead to both of us being bitter and regretful

[@meristeam2409]

@@winxclubfairiesrule1 the point is he dont want hurt his wife,divorce the only one solutions

[@winxclubfairiesrule1]

@@meristeam2409 I know that. I fully agree with the decision.

[@learnmore3387]

He wasn’t supportive and that was the problem she was literally trying to help these kids before the street killed them .. he showed his true colors

[@cece9692]

I never realized Patrick Dempsey was in Freedom Writers wow

[@mattjvlogs3157]

Xxc3c Xx right? I didn’t either lol

[@jessicaxx9171]

I didn’t realise till now

[@Kdar088]

I had only seen him in this movie up until recently, so when I started watching Greys Anatomy I was like “Thats the hating ass dude from Freedom Writers”

[@bolg892]

​​​@@Kdar088 How was he "hating" for wanting a wife that actually acknowledged him and didn't prioritze some misfit kids over a husband lmao

[@agenttheater5]

2:28 Why would she have to choose? If he really loved her, would he ask her that? My mum's a doctor at a university, her work takes up a fair bit of her life but she's worked for it and loves her job and still makes time for me and dad, and my dad would never ask her a question like that because he respects her and admires her.

[@Dan-qy6zv]

Here's the thing. Not everyone works like your parents. Some people need to know if where they are is right or not. If your lover possibly chooses a class of students they might not see in the foreseeable future over you? You need to think whether or not being with them at that moment is a good idea for your emotional health.

[@dirtydan9153]

@Sebastian Paredes hell yeah that little crybaby was jealous lol. i dont understand how any guy could hate an independent woman. beats having a damn gold digger for a wife 😂

[@jordansingleton1902]

I bet you if she was Meredith Grey it would be in a whole different situation

[@stugrimson7851]

@@dirtydan9153 No self respecting man wants an independent woman who doesn’t spend time with him.

[@dirtydan9153]

@@stugrimson7851 if youre speaking in context of the movie, her jobs were temporary and schools do have days, weeks and months off and obviously she comes home to him every day. he got jealous of his wife plain and simple. him saying "i cant be your wife" made it clear what he meant. if it were the other way around hed want her support though. wait it was, he wasnt doing nothing really and she was supporting him to chase whatever his dream was. if youre speaking in general, just cause a womans independent dont mean they dont spend time. unless youre clingy then thats your own issue. just cause men enjoy having women be self reliant dont mean they dont respect themselves. it wouldnt be fair for me to call you insecure cause you cant handle some time apart from a woman so she can live a fulfilling life as well right?

[@kalfanalatallah5222]

When I watched this movie years back, I thought Scott was such a jerk. Having watched now as someone older, I actually feel for him. It’s clear throughout the movie that he is in pain, and she just doesn’t hear him. Yes, Ms. Gruwell is the hero of this story, but this movie also highlights her own character flaws. Not everyone who opposed her was a bad guy. I think she should have tried to empathize, understand, and compromise with both her husband and Principal Umbridge. That may be something the movie was indirectly trying to say.

[@SavannaBanana22]

He had made her pick between him or her students. And all he cares about is her "love" and to be honest even as an adult myself he is still a horrible guy

[@chrisburken2596]

@@SavannaBanana22she was not attentive to his needs as a companion. She was a workaholic and basically ignored him while he wanted a present wife. Jobs and school aside, your spouse is number 1 in a healthy marriage, even above kids to a certain extent. Successful married couples who compromise out of love understand this

[@agenttheater5]

I'm sorry but I still just see this as sulking. Rosa Parks married Raymond Parks for love and years afterwards she became a figure for the civil rights movement. It caused problems in their marriage due to stress from the publicity, the death threats, the fact that they both got fired, and a lot of other things, but in the end, they managed to work it out and he stayed with her and supported her. He stayed married to her until he died in the 70s, and she opened her speech for the Million Man March in 1995 by honouring him. If he could stand by her even when the movement became just as important as if not slightly more important than her marriage, why couldn't this man?

[@phynixvikwin9380]

agenttheater5 true

[@victoriahilarious1826]

Because as my grandmother says we young people don't Kno or understand about Commitment, honoring your words... Marriage is about Love but when the troubles come you run away??? No ...it's good, and bad.. remember your vows..for better or worse.. for rich or poor...n sickness n in health!!! Marriage is ordanined by God n is lived by God because he loves us!! He never leaves our side through what we feel is hell on Earth!!! Do if he can b faithful we need to do understand that love is more than just a butterfly effect! It's life to me!!! N I wanna keep growing so when my Kings asks me to marry him I'll feel beautiful in the ways of love n won't doubt for a second..

[@juan93701]

Because she kept taking on extra responsibilities like a second job .. she was never home she didn’t do her part

[@phunkyphresh3799]

Why didn't she make time for her marriage?

[@h1ght3ckuall]

agenttheater5 People are different. You have to understand that especially when it comes down to intimate emotions in a relationship. Some people can bear the burden of others but when you ask your partner to bear a burden such as the one in question the relationship becomes unequal. That is because while you’re shouldering that weight for her/him you can’t exactly ask your partner to do the same if you needed to. It worked for Rosa and Raymond bc their interests aligned with one another and they were on the same page but these two were not. He wasn’t pushing her away bc he hated her he just realized that the love she had for him was now more invested in her students. He simply doesn’t want to have to have 50 percent when he gives 100

[@maddoxthecreator]

Usually we see this role reversed. Usually the husband is usually ignoring the wife and people say it’s not fair. It’s unfair to feel replaced by your spouses work. I would leave too, because it’s no longer about you two and building together

[@velardejakob1852]

Same. I noticed most people in the comments are hating on him. But imagine if the roles were reversed.

[@velardejakob1852]

@Cameron Yamaguchi That is true sadly.

[@christian6455]

@@velardejakob1852 bingo

[@TheCordova001]

One more thing : notice how she explains her passion for those kids. She says that she finally finds a sense for her life, and her husband is not a part of it. He, for his part, is not looking for something, he just wants to live with her. Lots of persons working in the social fields have the same personal issues : they deeply need to feel useful, and are so uncertain about it that they crave for it, and just reject the persons who truly love them, because a person who loves you obviously needs you, it's too easy. They need to work hard to deserve love. I think that the movie doesn't show completely the personality of the wife at home, but I completely understand the husband whose love has been replaced by the love from the students. No, you must separate your job and your personal life, especially if you're having lot of human contact in your work. Keep in mind that your energy, love, attention, are limited goods. If you give everything outside, nothing is left for your family once you're at home. I hope my advices get noticed and help someone out there. Good day :)

[@duvanm2483]

i think you're right, man.

[@OCJoker2009]

Very well said!! I agree completely.

[@TVegaC]

no, you are wrong. The husband should support her. She loves her husband but those kids REALLY need her. If she would have thought like you and just said "I need to give more attention to my husband" those kids wouldn't have changed the way it happened.

[@AM-zh2vu]

TVegaC Yeah because if it wasn't for her, those kids would probably be dead right now.

[@Blackdragon99omfg]

TVegaC it was an impossible situation. All her energy was been given to those in great need, but she neglected the people closest to her to provide this. The husband is leaving to support her, strangely. If he stayed, his bitterness would cause more harm than good. Note he isn't aggressive or nasty, he simply knows he needs something else

[@dem20233]

"YOU LOVE THE IDEA OF ME". That's a perfect sentence to say before breaking up with a person.

[@dandylion2837]

Her: “BUT IT’S SUCH A GREAT IDEA” ... Him: “I KNOW”

[@ngarcia1995]

That’s how my ex broke up with me 🤷🏻‍♀️ he basically said he loves the idea of me

[@juan93701]

Dam that’s some real words “you love the idea of me “

[@franciscopuentes6049]

@Sebastian Paredes no he wasn't

[@anthonyjimenez7379]

She loves the idea of having a husband and sometimes in relationships that were in we love the idea of being with that person and building a family

[@dandylion2837]

“...but it‘s such a great idea.“

[@cindyhernandez8163]

This scene can go both ways. I support Ms. Gruwell for being able to provide help and teach them. But not only that for her to have patience with them, she took the time to meet them and understand why they are the way they are. You don’t see that in most teachers, some teachers do their job, but then there are some teachers that do their job and also show the importance they have on you. That is something that the husband did notice in Gruwell but yet he was complaining how he wasn’t feeling like he was in a marriage. He didn’t help her, in the decoration of parent night. He didn’t come those times that Gruwell would leave a message to him asking him to come and meet the kids that she has devoted her time in! He didn’t give her at least half of the money to buy books, pay the museum for the teens to learn. He said he admires for what she does for them but didn’t support her. It goes both ways. A wife should support her husband, just as how a husband should support his wife. It’s a marriage, a team! Now as the new norm women are independent and that is something that men know can get mad about or even maybe feel intimidated now that there are more help for women and people praise us! Which we still face discrimination even though we have crossed that barrier. As I repeat it can go both ways, yes if you feel left out you would want to end the relationship or marriage. But Gruwell mentioned also that the kids brought sense to her life, and then she continues in to say you don’t get to see that often. This is why I would say that the husband was the problem. He didn’t get to know her job deeply, he didn’t went on to dinner with them to see why she was passionate about it. A marriage takes commitment, he had so much free time to be able to accompany her and even he could have helped her! Instead Gruwell father helped her on anything she needed, and that is okay because that is her father. Who stuck with her through good and bad, when she felt like she couldn’t survive being in that school, when she went through the divorce. You can see the position of the father and husband in the life of Gruwell and you can see that he went wrong not Gruwell

[@MelloHubb]

Lol, clearly this perspective is from a woman's point of view. Imagine if it was the other way around and a husband is this devoted to his job. Women have cheated and left their husband's over the years for that exact reason. Let's stop the cap.

[@jaclynschilt4699]

I think he left because he felt useless.

[@knucklehoagies]

I actually understand scott's point of view. He had nothing against Erin's career and thought it was noble. But he realized their lives were taking them down different paths. She was so focused on her career that she took her own marriage for granted. She didn't really want a husband and a family life which is what he wanted.

[@vintagegirly]

I don't know... People are making it seem like she was neglecting him on purpose. The way I see it, she was starting to realize her purpose in life and she was getting so caught up in it that she wasn't spending enough time with her husband. But she did try to include him, it's not like she just flat out ignored him. When she went out with the kids, she called and invited him to be there, asked if he wanted to help her with the little projects she did for the kids when she was home and yes you can look at that as a form of neglect in the sense that it was just her interests that were mainly the topic of conversation. But at least she didn't completely leave him out. I think she was trying to bond with him through that but he wasn't interested in it because it wasn't on his terms. I also think he started to feel inferior because she was working harder than him, especially since he was already unsure about what he wanted to do job/career wise. But the main thing. There was no communication. He didn't even try to sit down with her and at least talk it out, let her know how he started to feel and come to a comprise before deciding that divorcing was the best option. I don't want to say which one is the bad guy because really both are not perfect in this situation but saying Miss. G totally neglected him is false. Also maybe they just weren't meant to be in the end anyways, because their individual purposes or want from life didn't align with each other's.

[@chesiregirl]

This is why I hate, as a teacher, when people say "every teacher should be like Ms. Gruwell." Teachers should not be expected to give up their entire lives for their students.

[@Jordanvilain-115]

I mean she was taking on a more dominant role in the house and he didn't like it, not to mention he didn't pursue what he wanted to do in architecture.

[@shuli5708]

I just curious why her husband refuse to join her class and share her students lives. I remember the dinner party teachers invited her husband but he did not come. It seems that he did not like to communicate with her

[@agenttheater5]

yeah, that's a good point. Why didn't he join her that night?

[@courtneybridge1427]

@@agenttheater5 He was just selfish. Did not want to support her. 😔

[@spemka]

He was an insecure asshole basically that was overwhelmed by how much she was achieving and it made him feel inferior, instead of wanting to support her like an actual partner.

[@SuperGabetendo777]

@@spemka lmfao imagined if the genders were reversed.

[@lexyruse603]

@@spemka I don't see it that way. I mean like someone said if the genders were reversed and the wife never got time with her husband and he kept taking second jobs and was never home she would feel neglected. Life seems to sadly be taking them on different paths. Ms. G wasn't perfect. She did neglect her marriage. It had nothing to do with her success. They both had flaws ans both were the reason their marriage ended.

[@xxcolor-my-se4xx361]

Atleast she didn’t turn on the kids because of this, if anything it gave her full focus on them and to push harder and not give up on them.

[@kingeddiex2]

5$tar Mr.dent 4L

[@nathanaelsalazar4194]

It's so sad when she says, that's not true, I wanna be here, I love you 😭 lol

[@geavxle]

5$tar 4L Mr.Keith

[@juriatsuki7658]

She wasn't a good wife in the movie. She never sought her husband's help; she only informed him: 'Hey, I have a new job because I want books for kids,' or 'Hey, I have a new job so I can take a trip with my class.' She stayed late into the night to help her students. She's an amazing teacher because she did everything for them, which is inspiring, but it comes at a cost. You can't stay with someone you never see, never discuss things with, and who prioritizes others over you. She gave everything to her students but sacrificed everything else.

[@thickymcghee7681]

You don't love me, you love the idea of me. - That made a lot of sense.

[@TheElementsAreWithMe]

Even though, he was or will be miserable given if this continued, i think this was what SHE need more than him. She wants more, he doesn't. He can't can't give that to her because all he wants is just them to be together. I'm not saying i agree with his decision,if anything, i believe its kinda a dick move given how he doesn't love her enough to support what is making her happy, but from a logical point of view he needs to think about his happiness too, and his and her's just don't align, simple as that. For their marriage to work, one of them needs to make that sacrifice, and i'm pretty sure they wouldn't do that, nor would they ask each other to do so. It's hard, and it's not something any of us would prefer if we were put into this kinda situation, but when a new greater happiness comes along and if you can't balance that with the one you have now, you have to make a choice. Whether she realized it or not, she already made hers, and he made his. This is what's best for them both.

[@daday8735]

To all the ladies having babies on they own, I know it's kinda rough and you're feeling all alone.

[@ld2603]

Daddy's long gone and he left you by ya lonesome Thank the Lord for my kids, even if nobody else want 'em

[@ashcupcake66]

He was complaining from the very beginning. He never tried to understand her or help her when he had the means, too. Marriage is also about partnership. Her dad was able to see she had big dreams & decided to help her pursue them. He said it many times in the movie that he was content with his job. He didn't want to finish school or get a better job. He was okay with staying at a job that was supposed to be "temporary." Mrs.G definitely believes in him as much as she believes in those kids. I understand him feeling neglected. He had a right to be upset when she picked up 2 extra jobs without communicating with him. I just feel like he didn't give her enough time to see if she could make an impact. I feel like he pushed her away. The yelling, the sarcasm, the rude remarks about her students. Idk..... Marriage seemed to have already been doomed 🙃

[@maelguiraud3568]

he actually did help at first .

[@dem20233]

This scene is a huge PAIN to me. When one doesn't agree what the other person is doing. This is why I am scared of being married and having a relationship. Because sometimes it's too much. Lowering your standards for nothing. It means you have to make yourself dumb for that person. Who has time for that?

[@knucklehoagies]

then be single and alone forever. that's your choice.

[@dem20233]

@@knucklehoagies ya damn skippy

[@knucklehoagies]

@@margeryojije7862 lmao keep telling yourself that you're happy being single when deep down you know you're lonely. I ain't mad. I'm happily married. Stay secretly bitter 😁. Careers eventually end. Healthy marriages don't

[@knucklehoagies]

@@margeryojije7862 hahaha you have no real argument just emotional bs I can tell. I'll let you have your last word since you need it so bad even though I made my point while you did nothing.

[@dem20233]

​@@knucklehoagies both of y'all do things because that's y'all's choice

[@theeab1993]

Saw this when I was 13 for the first time and then I saw it again a few years ago as a grown up. I was subbing for a middle school class and it just so happened that they were watching this movie. Watching this scene as an adult made me realize how complicated this situation actually was. Ms. G loves her husband, but all of the time she spends with her students does take away from her marriage life. From the husband's point of view, he recognizes the amazing things she is doing, but he hardly sees her and that has to be a frustrating life to live; to feel so far from your wife, even though she's married to you and living with you. I'm sure that's not what he'd imagined for themselves when they first married. But life gets complicated. So I remember being moved by this scene now that I was seeing it from a different perspective as an adult. Then some kid shouted "GAYYYYY" and a bunch of other kids started laughing smh.

[@PriscillaRay-ol6xf]

Dude was straight up jealous because he’s sitting back everyday not following his dreams or goals and see that she’s happy and love her Job and those kids. When it was going downhill at first he seemed to care more but when things started going well. He didn’t like that.

[@jaclynschilt4699]

I don't blame the husband for leaving her

[@nathansaintus9927]

Ik people getting mad at him but he barely had anytime with her, ik erin tried to help the class but she had to work 3 jobs, all he ever wanted was to be with her and she was taking care of her class for over a year so I think he just got tired of waiting and broke up, he wasn’t necessarily a bad character I think he was just a bit impatient

[@terrylmclorn1267]

Having a career which is what her job started turning into and being in a relationship don't go together all well. It's hard to have both because in order to have a good relationship you have to devote time and energy into it and in order to have a good career you have to devote time and energy as well. She'd put so much into those kids that it became a crutch on her relationship with her husband.

[@Antoncool3000]

naaahhh 5$tar 4L Mr.Keith watched this movie in school

[@lovestrong54]

Thank You for your comment. When I looked at this, sometimes there is always some racial overtones like why are taking care of THOSE kids. As I delve deeper each time, I think about futuristic questions we don’t ask our partners as we grow into a relationship. We get so focused on the present, we don’t adapt when major developments occur. It takes strong individuals and constant communication to get through tough times.

[@NahIdfertilize]

Maxwell dent is yo son?

[@gerawallstar3487]

this is so sad

[@spaceplateau]

Gera WallStar alexa play Despacito

[@Teemo6544]

@@spaceplateau lmaoooooo

[@PoisonelleMisty4311]

when you try to help people it take alot of power from you, that's why many people mind their own business. You can't help someone if they don't want to help themselves or level up.

[@MrJdtjose]

love this scene

[@jya7284]

To be honest I don’t see why he left yes he got less attention but she found something she loved why is leaving so easy for people

[@izzys5920]

At 2:02 when the husband said, “because i can’t your your wife” instead of, “because I can’t be your husband” 💀😂

[@aljonclemente814]

Sebastian Paredes he actually says, “I can’t be your wife,” After Erin asks Scott to be supportive like a wife is to a husband, Scott responds with he can’t be “her wife” hinting that he doesn’t support whatever she’s doing

[@zhanejackson5062]

Sebastian Paredes idk if you’re joking or not but if you’re serious, the wife is considered to play the role as the female that would tend care for the husband hand and foot when they would get home to work. The husband is consider to be the one to make the money and be hardworking. So for the roles to be switched around it would make sense for him to say the “wife”

[@Pev0Gaming]

he meant to say wife

[@nathansaintus9927]

That wasn’t the point at all Lmao, Erin said “why can’t you support me like wives support husbands” and he said that he couldn’t be her wife meaning that he can’t support her anymore

[@rachelhernandez4700]

1:05 very good acting

[@h1ght3ckuall]

People are different. You have to understand that especially when it comes down to intimate emotions in a relationship. Some people can bear the burden of others but when you ask your partner to bear a burden such as the one in question the relationship becomes unequal. That is because while you’re shouldering that weight for her/him you can’t exactly ask your partner to do the same if you needed to. It worked for Rosa and Raymond bc their interests aligned with one another and they were on the same page but these two were not. He wasn’t pushing her away bc he hated her he just realized that the love she had for him was now more invested in her students. He simply doesn’t want to have to have 50 percent when he gives

[@MigPlz91LivestreamOnly]

He had every right to leave

[@multifandomvideos3275]

Mcdreamy!!!!!

[@multifandomvideos3275]

Nakola Thomas I see Mcdreamy was I'm this movie

[@nakylathomas1180]

Wtf

[@nakylathomas1180]

What dummy it down some

[@multifandomvideos3275]

:( *sighs* nevermind

[@nakylathomas1180]

Ok

[@1yricalhill]

he didn’t really support her from the jump, i feel like if he had so much free time maybe he should support his wife for a good cause . he just wasn’t on the same page as her i guess but i felt for him though, He was trying to talk to her .

[@lovestrong54]

Yes, this movie was so long ago, yet there are women that still don't feel supported by their husbands.

[@lisettesalgado5446]

0:04 0:43 attention 1:00 your life is too hard 2:25 choose 3:02 I love you November 5,2023

[@jonate79]

This is what happens when you date a passionate career driven woman. You end up being in second place or even worst 8th place

[@justmeja8217]

She was not doing too much. Often times, people want what they feel a relationship to be. She found her passion and wanted to change the lives of her students. They were her children. He wanted a housewife. He felt emasculated. He could not see her vision. When a man makes you choose between what you love and him, it's time to let him go. He trash. He could have matched her intensity or supported her, but he wanted complacency. He did not like her success and was jealous of her accomplishments.

[@maelguiraud3568]

they were her children well no wonder he left like what.

[@CrispyPrince]

i wouldve stayed

[@Twan_blessed]

Yes she was working woman he wanted attention from his wife instead of talking to your wife about how you feel support her career her passion her determination don’t just run out because things are not what you expect gonna be simple and easy

[@jonessoda4me1]

Good for Scott, in all seriousness, if he’s not happy, he needs to leave this toxicity. No one else can create his happiness but him. MGTOW FTW.

[@artymunoz5060]

I can literally see both perspectives. Now I don’t think it should’ve ended in divorce but I can definitely see why he was upset but of course she’s the main character so they’re gonna paint it as she’s an awesome human being and he’s just being selfish

[@jaclynschilt4699]

What did he mean by you love the idea of me?

[@spemka]

Gotta love it when the trash takes itself out

[@lovestrong54]

You think that's what happens? Maybe he had certain expectations on what her job as a teacher was it then it became something different and felt neglected.

[@slidtuna]

5$TAR 4L❤

[@6_checkmate_9]

Tbh. This is a preview of how it would've been if they had children. Being a parent is really consuming. A teacher is a gaurdian outside the home(or they should be). If he can't handle this, then it's better they stop while they're ahead. Of course, there is such a thing as "too much", so why not help her find that balance. Ms. Gruwell wasn't getting the support from the system, so help her make connections. Befriend some good teachers and get them over, so it doesn't all fall to her. They have friends in high places or friends that can get them in, sure they can make it happen. They're both valid in their feelings, though. You can tell he's a good guy because he stuck around to say goodbye. Who knows, this was probably his final hail mary to get her to see him.

[@stugrimson7851]

I’d leave too.

[@dennisardakis5857]

Because of this divorce which never dissolved, I never want to watch this movie again.

[@hectorguy5687]

Both sides are at fault, marriage is about being a team and commitment

[@lovestrong54]

Wasn't she a team player? And committed?

[@raysmith1026]

@@lovestrong54she was too committed to her students than her husband. Working 3 jobs for a year, he barely sees her. This type will eventually end a relationship. Both parties are guilty.

[@knucklehoagies]

@@raysmith1026 I agree. I believe it's possible for both husbands and wives to juggle career and family life but Erin was hyperfocused on her career which made her take her own marriage for granted. She wasn't intentionally doing it but it's what happened and it caused her husband to slowly check out emotionally. Sometimes these things happen. Not just for working wives towards husbands but working husbands towards their wives as well. It takes a solidified team to make it work

[@gvue4396]

It's hard on both of them, you can't hold onto both. Sad part of life

[@gabrielsmith3042]

He was a selfish jerk in this movie

[@ann6878]

@Cameron Yamaguchi He said "I can't be your wife" Meaning he's hinting if he was doing it she'd have to be supportive of him. He was being a jerk.

[@AngelTechno]

@@ann6878 Because men naturally are not help mates to women.

[@latricehylton8093]

He clearly wanted a house wide and not and equal

[@healthfreak18]

She obviously deserved much better from the get-go. Red wine makes a far better husband.

[@ann6878]

@@jonessoda4me1 Yikes.

[@arnoldgarzajr1164]

I wouldn't mind having a wife like that.At work you have to perform at a winning level so you get fired i admire her for that.If she wants to make a difference go ahead and let her.Thats her becoming a pro at something.That's something to be proud of not all teachers are like that going the extra length.And eventually we will make time with each other.Plus i have to go to work too.As long as we can keep up with the bills and a nice house.We have to sacrifice.Thats what i would do.Patrick Dempsey is right on whst he says.But he still kind of acting like a pansy.If he wanted a wofe that doesnt work alot then he shouldnt of married Swank character.Over all a good movie and this was the last movie of hood kids making in this world cuz of a good teacher.

[@lovestrong54]

It’s quite interesting. These are issues couples were going through back then. Nowadays it would be the other way around. Some wives can’t get their husbands to work.

[@KennyLandersJr]

That’s Plaqueboymax Dad‼️‼️‼️‼️🐐

[@bluetrailerproductions7488]

Man Dude can't get a break. He breaks up with her girlfriend and then moves to Massachusetts and has another girl he was in a relationship end up getting killed along with his Unborn Child on Black Friday and Then dresses up as a Pilgrim going on a murderous rampage seeking revenge

[@mirzaardi3274]

This is adult life

[@bryonnyevans9874]

He left to be a neurosurgeon be proud of him at least😭😂

[@lovestrong54]

Great point!

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4392]

​@@lovestrong54I thought he met up with Megatron.

[@noone-bp1eu]

there are hundreds of movies whhere the roles are reversed and they make the husband the neglecting jerk who put his jop first and the wife is the victim

[@sifarath.p.s750]

The way she had to look again to notice the bags tells me that she was more invested in the school then her marriage. "you never wanna go home ".... Well now you don't have to........

[@lovestrong54]

Not necessarily. She never expected that he would have his bags packed in the first place. Teachers, often work long hours and give more than in most professions to reach their students. He didn't have to pack his bags to get her attention.

[@sifarath.p.s750]

@@lovestrong54 " you never wanna go home " it literally says that she cares more about her job than her marriage, well most women would be mad as shit if their husband cared more about his job than their relationship , that's when these women have affairs..... " Attention " 🤣😂 it's not like he was trying guilt trip her or something , he was straight forward about that the relationship is working...

[@timothygwong3151]

Patrick is about to becoming a MGTOW

[@zachgbrennan]

They’re not your kids!

[@cutiepututie1869]

why did he break up with her

[@kurtjames9487]

She replaced her husband with the kids she was trying to save. She was leaving in the morning before he would even get up for work and then she'd get home at 10pm every night. She developed a messiah-god complex and thought she was the only one who could save the world. No one with an ounce of self-respect would stay with an absentee spouse.

[@SakuroAlex]

@@kurtjames9487 no she didn't replace her husband. He was just too pussy to ask for attention.

[@christian6455]

@@SakuroAlex why he should ask for attention?

[@Kodeuk]

@@kurtjames9487 she has 3 jobs and her husband barely gets to see her anymore. I honestly don’t know why would she even get 3 jobs bruh it’s stupid

[@Kodeuk]

@@SakuroAlex she has 3 jobs and her husband barely gets to see her anymore. I honestly don’t know why would she even get 3 jobs bruh it’s stupid

[@desisarod]

Soooo why did he break up with her???

[@xxladybug94]

I guess he felt like she didn't need him and wasn't paying any attention to him anymore since she started teaching. if you ask me he's being a dick.

[@desisarod]

mc dreamy is being a dick????!!!!

[@DarKMediaify]

+xxladybug94 He's not a dick in my opinion. In a relationship you need attention. That's the point of it. Yeah he might regret it now cause she's famous but people need attention.

[@zappy4252]

Because she's dedicating her life to kids she's met a year ago instead of her "life partner"

[@desisarod]

Zappy425 ok, but as much as you love someone... your whole life is not focus on them!! people need to work, have other goals... your life partner should help you, encourage you... not make you decided... that is not love...

[@yoamirajahara]

Scott was a miserable person and Erin was always smiling

[@PhilospherDjPsychologist24]

3:04 ever exploring complex racial dynamics, this movie shows how white people breakup, just throw around some psychological mumbo jumbo until they get tire of arguing, look at his smile, he has used that line before and he probably heard it on prince of tides a rerun, or dr Phil

[@pujaphuyel963]

Derek Shepard ❤️❤️❤️

[@yvonnelozano20]

Divorced Erin then married addison and then divorced, married meredith then he dies

[@ameliegrace2456]

@@yvonnelozano20 he “dies”

[@scurelle2237]

Why they broke up

[@jaclynschilt4699]

He thought she was spending too much time with her students and not enough time with him . He felt useless

[@Kodeuk]

@@jaclynschilt4699 she has 3 jobs and her husband barely gets to see her anymore. I honestly don’t know why would she even get 3 jobs bruh it’s stupid

[@jaclynschilt4699]

@@Kodeuk she got. 3 jobs to pay for her students books.

[@Kodeuk]

@@jaclynschilt4699 ye and it’s a waste of time and she could of ask her husband to give her some money instead 🤷‍♂️

[@georg_couch]

This film is incredibly unintelligent.

[@Kodeuk]

Honestly idk why would she even get 3 jobs… her husband barely gets to see her anymore, which could lead to a divorce 🤷‍♂️

[@y2k704]

this guy was insecure af. she was wifey material.

[@knucklehoagies]

not really. she was more dedicated to her career than her own relationship. He felt neglected. This stuff happens all the time even the other way around (the husband being career focused and the wife feeling neglected)

[@christineking2855]

If that divorced guy were to ask me out, I would have rejected him and told him “You’re a damn idiot for leaving your wife all alone!”

[@christineking2855]

@@margeryojije7862 Youre right about the part that she should have paid more attention to him and part of me understands that but part of me can’t help but feel angry just seeing her heartbroken at the hands of her ex-husband. I hate divorces.

[@kibakim]

A nice white lady

[@knucklehoagies]

wtf who cares if she's white? So racist. She's a person who wants to help other people. period.

[@jaclynschilt4699]

What did he mean by you love the idea of me?

[@lovestrong54]

Thank you for responding. Meaning she believed in the idea of having a husband, but she didn 't want to put in the work of a marriage.