Bass Drum Technique - Slide Technique

[@JesseCamera]

For anyone struggling to get it down, I'm literally sitting on the set right now and I might have a helpful tip for you. If you focus too much on the actual sliding of your foot, you'll get tripped up. Concentrate on this: hit the bass drum once from the middle of the pedal and then move to the top of the pedal to strike once more. Start slow. Think middle, top, middle, top over and over and it might help! It did for me!

[@RizHallowes]

thanks man, that actually really helps

[@prettyruude1]

Great tip !!

[@zxdragonzx4443]

Dude your such a legend thank you for this helpful tip 😎

[@-YazidIrfanLubis]

THANKS BRO

[@darklight4815]

If you're still around 5 years later...thanks for the crucial tip 💪

[@angieb8950]

I learned heel toe first but I'm finding it really hard to alternate between single stroke and heel toe strokes, as I am a "beginner" heel up drummer. Thanks for this lesson!

[@HotJamStudios]

Great video, great technique!! I like to think of the slide technique as an inverted heal - toe technique focused on the toe and then ball of the foot. You can really see this on the slow down at the end of the video with the toe hitting the pedal on the first hit, halfway down the pedal plate and the second hit with the ball of the foot at the top of the pedal plate. If anyone was struggling with this technique maybe try focusing on toe / ball and see if it helps 👍🏻🥁 One tip, if you are getting softer and louder notes you may be extending your foot too much for the first hit. By this I mean pointing your toes like a ballet dancer. Try keeping your foot level whilst hiring with you toe, you’ll get a much louder and cleaner note 👌🏻

[@loombaron]

thanks I was looking for this!

[@bball98038]

Thanks man! I'm gonna learn this right now! I just hate the heel toe technique

[@stixxnstonerz3450]

I develope the slide on my own too. No one showed me or told me about it. Being a self taught drummer in the 80s there was no youtube. I've since learned the heel toe method from a video from Joe Stronsick in the 90s, called ballistic bass drums. But i am now having to relearn the slide technique again for certain patterns. Do what works for you!!!

[@lilguy7491]

Yeah, sometimes you just conceptualize this stuff on your own. As for me, I got the idea for something like heel-toe/slide while trying to copy what tap dancers do. I'd practice the movements on my bare wooden floor, seeing if the movement could be applied to the bass drum. Of course, it's always a good surprise when you realize that you were on the right track all along and that more experienced people have put out resources to help you polish your technique.

[@andrewlee9108]

I luckily learned this technique very early on but I can only do it with my shoes on. Barefoot or with socks feels a little off

[@kridhoyudhoasmorons3254]

trueeeee, same with me

[@viktor2915]

I been drumming for something like 18 years and have to learn this now for the reason that i broke my ankle a year ago and I lost some of my movement and precision 🤣

[@kpec3]

This is the best video on this technique. The best breakdown of the motion. Thanks!

[@joshkeeley1984]

Dude, thanks a lot! Great instructional vid on this technique (slow motion was well needed too). Drumeo is my go to for drumming!

[@trentondaniels2667]

Sounds like a heart beat when it's at full speed and slowed down 33%

[@j.d.7208]

Thats actually the nickname drummers gave this pattern way back in the day

[@goooooorkyo]

odd, I do the opposite to this and get the same effect. I slide backwards on the double kick for speed, and according to Ryan Greene, who watched me play a while back, it's the same technique that Eric Sandin uses.

[@manofculture8666]

I thought I was the only one who did this haha

[@jonseay8887]

I'm glad I'm not alone.

[@kushking420]

i hit on the top first then hit the bottom and middle, in a quick slide, gives me quick triplets with just the kick

[@gnusmas1914]

the drummer from obituary 2 runs on the pedals so does dave LOMB. frm slyr

[@joshuachan56]

@jayroll005 Yes it does. It will be easier to slide if you wear shoes than barefooted because barefoot has more friction. The surface of the pedal also affect the playing too. The smoother the board, the easier for your feet to slide.

[@Behemoth1105]

As long as you're doing just two notes, you can. (2 16ths) however, when there's more than 2 16th notes you're going to need a double pedal.

[@wiirluvenit]

I feel I have the heel-toe technique down pretty well on my right foot, not so much with my left. Now I wanna learn how to do the slide tech.

[@samosaurospersonal6820]

when I do this, I'll alternate from my right to left foot on the double bass pedal, and I feel like that's easier. this is also nice to have under your belt if you dont have a double bass pedal. ;)

[@Swigga666]

Seeing this technique and the heel-toe technique from other guy in this series in slo-mo, I notice that real difference between the two is that in the slide the first stroke is with the toe and second is with the ball of the foot. In the heel-toe it is just reversed.

[@Rogers1977]

I used to play heel toe until I went to a Steve Gadd clinic and he was showing heel toe and slide, and I thought slide was the coolest (and simplest) to uses. I personally like the first note of the double to be a little quieter because it adds a mini crescendo to whatever comes right after.

[@goodeyesniper14]

@HangarOFmetaL exactly...and hes one of the best drummers ever

[@cutemarkPH]

tnx to diz vid., i learned it.., choink.., natutunan ko toh agad eh., buti nlng nakita ko tong palabas na toh

[@2014andon]

Explaination is perfect

[@KamalBensra]

Hi thanks for the wonderful video and ur immaculate skills!! You’re awesome! When I practise my slide, I encounter a few issues. It’s really tough to practise slow. There seems to be ‘friction’ on the board preventing me to hit the send note. And sometimes my beater, on the back rebound, hits the top of my feet. I really need help!

[@임준석-h4t]

Which technique is better: Slide or Heel-Toe? I'm just wondering what technique should I use

[@michaeldavis5903]

+임준석 Whichever feels more comfortable to you is the one you should use. There is no right or wrong answer.

[@lanceh4653]

+임준석 I use slide for the same reason as Dave. I just figured it out. Much later, (20 years?), I found out it was a technique that had a name. I can easily get 3 or four hits out of the slide. When I do four, the volume suffers a bit. so maybe doing 2 sets of 2 is better. have to work on the speed though!

[@MikeHoltackers]

Today I started practicing this technique, on my DW 9000 pedal, and i wore shoes with LOTS of grip, I most of the time got stuck ont he first note, would you suggest trying again with less grip ?

[@lobbyrobby]

I'm just a beginner but this actually feels natural to me. It only took a couple of tries to get the motion. I'm not saying I'm doing it 100% correctly or super fast but it feels good so far

[@MikeHoltackers]

@ryancoll22 sure you can ! I am a heel down player myself, and I like this technique :)

[@KamalBensra]

Your playing is super awesome!!! I have a quick question that I hope you can help me with. I’m new to this technique and often when I execute it, there’s always the sound of my shoe hitting the pedal board. Is that normal?

[@wiirluvenit]

Just tried slide technique for the first time, It was easy to to though felt a little qwerky since I've never done it before especially for my left foot

[@goodeyesniper14]

@madnessxxi ya but i feel as if when you use only one pedal it opens up your mind to do cooler things and not just relying on your double kick

[@vicekennedy23]

@Carlos2312 YES. Smelly is a great, underrated drummer. NOFX RAWKS!

[@DigitalEelRich]

Thanks!

[@Mozek132]

Is this technique usable for high double bass speed or only for 2-3 Bass drum strokes?

[@albinorockdrummer]

i do everything heels down, even double pedal, but when i use slide technique. although it seems to be a hybrid between heel toe and slide...

[@mindfreakerry]

I'll appreciate if anyone could help me. My pedal seems to be very stiff, like it has a lot of tension in it. I have to use a lot of effort to even do a single kick, compared to what i see in the video, where only a slight touch with force from the ankle is required to hit the beater onto the drum. For me I have to use strength from even my calf just to do one kick. Can anyone give me suggestions on how to modify my pedal? thx alot in advance

[@6.thedollar415]

11 years later, did your issue ever get fixed?

[@christian95vank]

Thanks man!!

[@debagusadi3626]

Nice drum drum drum

[@monicabrown7640]

Benny greb, Steve gadd, jeff porcaro and many more use/ used this technique. I had a horrible time with this until i saw another video that explained that there isn't as much of a slide as it is a toe tap in the middle of the pedal and a normal hit right after, at the normal location of the pedal. Some teachers will say to just think of the toe tap and then just let your foot fall onto the pedal where it naturally falls when you do a normal kick stroke. Benny Greb stated that it's like the hand version of the double stroke, ie getting two hits with one leg motion. do not try to literally "slide" when you are first learning this. That was my mistake.

[@lestermonegas5485]

thanks for the tutorial!!!now i can achieve my goal.... C:

[@muzomonty6616]

Is the first stroke more of a pivoting from the ankle without much leg movement or are you still pushing down with the leg?

[@joshuachan56]

@NathannRamirez WRONG. Of course you need to practice to get fast lol. But if you wanna do double strokes, it's best to use double strokes foot techniques. Try doing double strokes with heel-up technique. It is gonna be really difficult.

[@bluesymmetry]

how do you get to that speed using the slide technique during the demonstration at the beginning? the speed at the end was achievable for me but the intro was just really fast.

[@gustavlundin1920]

is wearing shoes recommended for this technique?.. cause I normally always play without shoes

[@BasedNoodle]

this took me a month to master

[@miguelsaavedrums]

damn ur technique is beautiful

[@brandonwalker9245]

awesome

[@Trencher888]

cant do this for shit. heel toe works great for me even tho my foot seems to be right up by the beater. someone told me this was wrong but the velocities are spot on

[@dinowibisono99]

does the spring tension matter? because i find this technique a little hard to do and i would like to know if it has something to do with tension

[@BoredDeveloper]

Awesome!!!!

[@quartterioamos730]

I like heel up better I been practicing it and it's improved a little bit

[@Dom-e92]

This is heel up. I use this for double strokes or really fast tempos.

[@WannaBeast123]

Someone please tell me what is best. Rubber, wood, or felt. I am thinking of replacing my DW3000 pedals.

[@louissearle2915]

I can do this technique slowly, but not really fast. I decided to learn this be able to play the double bass in the chorus for smells like teen spirit but I'm not doing it too well, has anyone got any advice?

[@gnusmas1914]

i run on the pedals works for me

[@hawk044]

Of all the youtube drum masturbatory videos I've watched, this is actually helpful.

[@colourfulwithaU]

He says the second stroke will be the same volume, but in his final example, it really isn't. It's way louder.

[@christianoliverio2109]

Do you have to wear a certain type of shoes for this? I usually play with sneakers on and find it difficult to slide.

[@Mozart1220]

I am a beginner drummer at 55 years old, and oddly enough my bedroom slippers are the best for the kick drum and hats. Light, comfy and just slick enough for sliding.

[@joecool7103]

Can you do it barefoot?

[@SKragseth]

Im struggling with this and the balance between double, triple kicks and keeping my left going.

[@ryancoll22]

Lol, Blink 182 and Sum 41 are both in my top 3 favourite bands! It's a shame I'm not a heel-up drummer, so I can't really get much out of this video...

[@ben2034]

In my opinion there is no slide 'or' heel toe, it's clearly an 'and'. With slide it's easier to adjust different speed levels, while heel toe works really well for fast double or triple strokes in between.

[@gnusmas1914]

thats what triggers are for even sounds

[@jayroll005]

how much does footwear affect your playing? in terms of the slide technique?... might sound foolish to ask. thanx...

[@NICKHAM16]

I play heel up and use heel toe.

[@southpawgrandma4522]

I have an electronic drum kit with belt drive bass pedal. Haven't tried this yet. Anyone have success?

[@Shurmstick]

I tried that but I I have to keep picking my foot off the pedal to slide it Forward because my pedal has rubber on it

[@raulramod4514]

ORALE COMPA GRACIAS POR ESPLICAR COMO REDOBLAR EL PEDAL.....SALUDOS. 9.999 LIKES.

[@pdjtw]

3:37

[@davecarsley8773]

The heel-toe technique starts and ends with the heel *up* anyway. So while this is _another_ option (and of course, the more the merrier) it's in no way a _better_ option specifically for heel-up drummers.

[@AllenAndersonTaylor]

i discovered this by accident as well. pretty interesting.

[@MikeHoltackers]

@IAmMattLewis thanx mate, I'll give it a try tomorrow, I actually got used to playing with socks on my perl demon drive single pedal.. and I have to say.. fuck that shit :p I'll let you know if it improves! :)

[@oldschoolcuc]

I am playing for like 2 weeks and also naturally started playing like this, before that it was really hard to play some D-beat at decent speed.

[@MoviesAndEpisodes123]

HOW DO U GET THAT BASS DRUM SOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Dylan99781]

Lots of EQ

[@TheButterism]

Put a pillow in it xD

[@BarryWarne]

1) sample sound of finger tapping paper 2) use MIDI convertor on kick drum to trigger sound of paper

[@omarcusihuaman4261]

I saw the slow motion part and immediately think "oh a reverse heel toe, got it"

[@lightningjet9444]

Unfortunately the problem with this technique is that it rather depends on the shoes you have on. If the bottom of that shoe has too much grip it can change the effectiveness of this

[@k612z]

my foot is to big for heel toe!

[@carrie7225]

I play heel up, but when I play fast double strokes, my foot somehow almost instantly moves to the heel down position and plays heel toe

[@LillyJem]

its exactly the same except side to side.

[@hunting3782]

Hi Dave I was wondering could this technique work for fast double bass? Like Lets say Slipknot?

[@alk3603]

Yes. If you make it doubles and use both feet

[@alk3603]

So, like right right left left

[@ThatLoudGuyMike]

My roommate is so go at it, I just can't seem to get it.

[@75353866]

Heel toe seems kind of faster to me but harder to do

[@johansespinoza3701]

that technique is for punk rock music

[@alex30yw]

i know im probably beating a dead horse here, but if you havent, youtube "zach hill raw footwork"

[@ReignJeffersonCTria]

I didn't know what i was doing was a drum technique i thought the heel toe is the only one... I just found out that i was doing that slide motion when i want to play faster on the bass drum i thought it was just me but turns out it's a technique on the drum i did it naturally

[@antonis958]

me hell toe on single flat foot on double

[@robbocainio]

if you keep practicing double strokes on your bass drum, you will develop speed. i dont think the specific learning of this sort of technique is nesessary

[@drumerMcBrain]

I use similar technique.I do the same thing but move my foot left and right on the pedal. You don` even have to move your knee.

[@Kody_Halliday]

❤🥁🥁🥁🥁🤟🏻💣

[@TheCrayonMan529]

His shirt is really tight

[@sufc43]

Why does that even matter?

[@Dennizzz119]

Alright, shoot me some unoriginal comments.

[@Magucci13]

i drum with thoughs same dc's ha i dont know why but i drum alot better with those

[@drum4fun969]

He doesn't even go to the middle when it shows the slow down part. Theory vs actuality.

[@prettyruude1]

I thought most people were heels up drummers 🤔

[@360snow555]

1 person dosent have feet?!

[@joshuachan56]

@boobsmakemehappy1 True. But for me, i prefer to wear shoes as i have more control than wearing socks. Socks is too slippery for me :P

[@rcullen5897]

Problem is that he buries the beater. Sacrificing tone for speed when you can have both with a proper technique which this video doesn't illustrate. The second best will always sound different because it is muffled. The only way around this is very dead drums which also make it sound clicky and also make it harder to play physically.

[@B3Band]

+R Cullen Then show us the "right" way, instead of just whining about it.

[@zhulikkulik]

I guess the only way around would be two separate drums and pedals so that nothing is muffled or whatever. But who cares if it does sound good enough and is played fast?

[@sorelbaid]

I know what you mean, but not everyone needs to keep the beater unburied. It really only matters if you tune your drum a certain way. Many, many masters burying the beater (Vinnie!). If you strictly play a wide open bass drum, then yeah, you prob want to keep it unburied, but most folks don't, and again, different strokes for different folks. I played heel toe for a long time, and it works great for me when I play a wide open drum, but lately I have been teaching myself to bury the beater, which is surprisingly hard to do when you have taught yourself not to for years! I think burying the beater a little bit makes it easier for me to achieve certain accents and things like that, and many drummers prefer "deader" drums, which are not necessarily harder to play physically.

[@YVshadowVY]

First!

[@josteinv.jordet257]

I can do the slide technique! Only on guitar though😔

[@davecarsley8773]

Why does this dude talk like he invented slide technique?