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[@JimLeonard]

30 years of demoscene and I never thought I'd see this. You, sir, win the 2021 demoscene.

[@Sempoo]

This one is a gem^^, but you may be also interested in hearing C=64 in binaural stereo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epvUoKN-lMSCZ5Y

[@pygamebooker]

yes, indeed!

[@commodork]

Yeah, running a demo on a /peripheral/ takes the cake.

@@Sempoo woah, now this is creepy to see my video linked by the man who created the mix. Hats of sir, this mix is really good by the way, I hope you don't mind I've uploaded it to KZbin.

[@skweek256]

@@commodork Especially with the the trills, it's not just an example of how it could be done it's an example of how to do it well.

[@lorenzodigaetano3591]

I've been following the demoscene for 30 years, this is the most incredible and unthinkable thing I've ever seen. You're a fucking genius!

[@The8BitGuy]

That's bad ass!

[@Murrlin27]

Hello there!

[@joeynrg]

Agreed! Technical Wizardry and great demo.

[@iLoxy42]

I agree

[@Dannzenful]

Oh what a surprise to find u here :)

[@grokness]

That is *exactly* what I just said to myself right before I read your comment. 🤩

[@32Bits]

Floppotron: I can play music! 1541: Hold my beer.

[@tiges]

programs that play music on a stepper motor have been known for a long time and they destroy this motor.

[@32Bits]

@@tiges that's the point we have seen stepper motor music but never have you seen a floppy drive make music and video this is a whole new category of demo I call it FDAV or Floppy Drive Audio and Video Demo and it's. it's Amazing :)

[@ralfjung4156]

@@tiges My 1541 is 34 years old. I play'd so much songs on my 1541 and it runs fine.

[@c64skate]

- Quiss doesn't use 1541 as the second CPU. He uses it as the only CPU!!! Quiss is Chuck Norris of the C64 scene. :)

[@ulrichkalber9039]

Chuck Norris replays "Walker Texas Ranger" from that floppy drive In Full HD Color HDR

[@wobdq248]

indeed

[@GreatNorthWeb]

When Chuck Norris writes functions they never have arguments. Chuck Norris got a computer virus and it died. Chuck Norris' computer does not have an escape key. Nothing escapes Chuck Norris.

[@danielmantione]

... CPU *and* GPU.

[@VitorMartinsAugusto]

Started watching the video and when Matthias cut the cables, I thought it was going to be some dumb April fools video. Somehow I kept on watching and my brain froze. I had to rewatch the video twice to believe what my eyes just saw: the coolest C64 related demo ever!

[@CarstenMeyer]

One of the most impressive C64 ... oh, got confused ... 1541 demos I have ever seen! What a timing nightmare! Hats off!

[@cy-kl5hg]

What can I say... this is a breakthrough in the demo scene. Matthias, you've gained my deep respect. Only nerds would know...

[@markusesslinger]

Completely useless, distracted a smart man from productive work and probably burnt many hours of precious time... This is art in its pure form ❤️

[@TheGuruMeditation]

Amazing work. This is one of the coolest and most imaginative demos I have ever seen. It blows my mind how folks like Matthias are coming up with new and creative ways to use their machines in 2021. Just when you thought you have seen everything, you realize that you haven't. -- AmigaBill

[@gothikia]

Just give this dude all the awards. This is the coolest thing I've seen in 20 years.

[@jacksonpb]

This is absolutely mindfuck. Of all demos I have ever seen, and I have seen over a thousand, this one takes the cake!

[@randomexcessmemories4452]

Genuinely one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how you figured this out. I hope we can see even more like this in the future, perhaps on a 1581!

[@mnemonic_de]

Perfect example of out of the box thinking. We need more people like this!

[@alinayossimouse]

the thinking was entirely inside the box. just not the one we expected

[@DavisRaySickmonJr]

I'll be honest: for just a bit, I was trying to decide if this was real, or something faked up to look insanely cool. After reading the blog, yep, it's real. I honestly had never thought of leveraging the processor in the floppy in such an insane way. Well done!

[@merman1974]

A work of genius, the effects are so clear and the music is awesome. State of the art.

[@Canthus13]

Badass. It's like a visual version of bitbanging and I love it.

[@graghead6622]

I feel strong compassion for the 1541 stepper motor! 😂 Great work! 👍🏻

[@kristofferfrisk4077]

This was a jawdropper.. Never seen anything like it. Blew my mind.

[@senilyDeluxe]

This floppy drive has better graphics than the RCA Studio II.

[@mariogrande8907]

In this world, a C64 asks his 1541 for a file, elaborates it and projects it on his monitor. In another world, a 1541, after receiving the LOAD from a C64, loads a driver file from itself, processes itself and takes possession of the C64 monitor. Welcome to Odyssey 2001 where everything can became reality.

[@paulkocyla1343]

Best hack ever! That´s the pure essence of demoscene :)

[@GadgetUK164]

This wins all demo scene competitions - ever!

[@atornblad]

0:37 When you started cutting into the cable, I involuntarily screamed at my screen... Other than that, this was the coolest hack I have seen in a long time!

[@danielcelion]

This might be the best demo of all time! Totally unexpected awesomeness!!! Mind blown!!!

[@JoseRojasA]

Moonshot achieved! Mad respect. I confess that a dormant neurological path was expecting a pixelated ,b&w, picture of Samantha Fox to appear under the parallax.

[@Novous]

WOW. I was JUST talking about this with a friend as a possibility two weeks ago. You did all the hard work! GREAT JOB

[@jacofwudsn]

The idea is awesome, the live presentation is great, and technique of streaming the pixels from the drive is just ace - as is are the pre-recorded screens. Hats off, and congrats for the already safe Meteoriks Award :-)

[@gbkEmilgbk]

Wow - what we have here: 1:45 smoothed scrolling picture (of chessboard) 1:58 dynamic distortion of the image relative to the Y-axis 2:11 music 2:12 vertical smooth scroll 2:25 first 3D effect - camera moves through space 2:55 vertical animatet curved line 3:33 textured 3D box-shaped X-axis rotating bar 4:00 zoomed 3D X-axis rotating bars 4:25 plasma 4:33 2D sprites moving in 3D space 4:40 zoomed vertical scroll

[@philippschneidenbach]

30 year long follower here, since we met in Munich. Acces Denied, Radio Napalm. Wow. Keep it up, you're a legend already!

[@retrobitstv]

This makes me unreasonably happy. Amazing work!

[@LCR]

Wow, this is truly impressive! You get as much sound out of that floppy drive as others are getting out of the SID chip. Incredible achievement.

[@superandroidtron]

Absolutely incredible work, easily the best wild platform demo of the last 5 years!

[@Ewigkind]

Das ist echt abgefahren! Kann mich selbst noch an die "Floppy" Musik auf meinem eigenen C=64 erinnern. Aber DAS ist wirklich next Level ... ca 36 Jahre später. Wow

[@Patashu]

This is awesome. And I would love if there was a clean recording of the music because I would throw that straight into my playlist, god damn

[@Dankyman100]

Still can't belive i got to meet you in person. Thanks for putting up with me at X!

[@tony359]

One of my viewer mentioned this video - I was comparing a C64 drive to the Apple 2 drive, to highlight how simple the Apple 2's drives were. This is just amazing!

[@andrewgr144]

My first computer was a C64 with a 1541 disk drive (though it didn't look nearly as sleek and modern as the one shown here). Lots and lots of good memories. This demo is spectacular in its own right, but for me it has the added benefit of evoking some nostalgia. Well done.

[@GoWithAndy-cp8tz]

this is amazingly good demo! Best demo on C64 I've ever seen. Cycling is huge stuff and drive music is smashing! Cheers from Poland!

[@plgDavid]

That is one serious "Racing the beam" example. Props!

[@Wingnut353]

Indeed, as an aside, 48k of ram could be installed in a non stock 1541.

[@chrisholland5138]

"No (not many) floppy drives were harmed during the making of this prod."

[@MatthiasKramm]

I only went through three. I still maintain that they died of natural causes.

[@NULUSIOS]

@@MatthiasKramm would be interesting to know what killed them.

[@MatthiasKramm]

@@NULUSIOS One had a dead 6522. Probably because of a bad power adapter.

[@michiellombaers3198]

But many cables were ... Those poor cables ...

[@NULUSIOS]

@@michiellombaers3198 they are just cables - probably user-made anyway

[@arnetrautmann9783]

The weird thing: some of the FX are actually neat. I mean: not just neat by "we do this on the floppy" standards, but neat-neat.

[@Butterscotch_96]

I know almost nothing about the C64, but I already knew that the floppy drive is kind of like its own computer. But cutting up a serial cable to get a video signal is insane!

[@pkvp7337]

Reflex is back! The legends! The chosen platform was a bit unexpected though :D

[@MyManicmonday]

Okay, i have 3 1541-II but i would not try this at home^^ Still need my disk drives :) On the other hand: your demo is sooooo exciting! just wow!

[@MichaelAnttila]

Incredible. This is the demoscene distilled down into its pure essence.

[@alejandrobaque4135]

It's a shame this is going viral and you are not getting the credit deserved.

[@JCrashB]

Unfassbar. Das hat fr-08: .the .product von Platz 1 meiner persönlichen Top 10 verdrängt. Hochachtung und Glückwunsch!

[@AxeMan808]

OH GOD I CAN FEEL MY 1541s IN MY CLOSET GETTING MORE MISALIGNED AS THIS GOES ON.

[@thetinkerist]

best c64 demo without a c64.

[@MartinPaoloni]

Are you doing freaking arpeggios with the floppy drive?! HOW?!?! Simply amazing! This reminds me of LFT's microcontroller demos.

[@qdmc12]

How did I miss this last year?!!

[@GelberBuntstift]

Wow! Just Wow! It's running only on the 1541. Fantastic work.

[@TimoBirnschein]

For a good two minutes I forgot the sound is coming from the drive’s stepper motor. Dang man! This was amazing!

[@magroll4368]

1541 GodMode, really nice work!

[@lecapitaineisonyoutoob]

This is next level even for the demoscene. Here's hoping someone can come up with a device to connect the two cables non-destructively.

[@pgiblox]

Oh course that’s simple. I bet he used a similar adapter to develop the demo. Cutting the wires is all theatrics

[@politesociety]

It's the most badass flex I've ever seen.

[@RafaelOchrymowicz]

Kudos Matthias - this is the most amazing wild demo I've seen, you're a real whizz. Fantastic :-) in every way

[@CWild-Music]

Just incredible. Awesomeness is in a single/simple floppy drive device !! That rocks !

[@CRTWorlds]

Such a great C64 demo... without the C64. Haha. Brilliant!

[@ulaB]

After watching this, my brain was the C64 in this setup.

[@robmanuel]

Witches have been burnt for lesser sorcery

[@NULUSIOS]

DAMN! DAMN! This ABSOLUTELY RULEZ! You are using 1541 CPU and RAM (and VIA)... damn, fantastic. Unbelievable.

[@joewenz]

Respekt! Da muss man aber viel von der Hardware verstehen. Und da bin ich schon stolz drauf, mein W&T Interface wieder zum Laufen zu bekommen ;-)

[@TrapBonzai]

Crazy cool ... and what a return to the scene :) Can't wait to see more from you guys.

[@Valery0p5]

0:37 I had a stroke when you started cutting that cable, I hope it's not an original one. Aside from that the demo is awesome 🤯

[@commodork]

Judging by the wires' size, looks like a modern reproduction.

[@Bakamoichigei]

Yeah, looks like a modern repro. Vintage cables would've been much thicker, and the plugs were a little different. Plus I imagine the thick-ass PVC insulation would be much harder to cut through after ~35 years.

[@FalconFour]

I felt physically ill when I saw that knife going for that cable. BUILD AN ADAPTER, MY DUDE. DIN plugs aren't uncommon! Oh god, oh god why, why... :o

[@Grympel]

Just mind boggling demo! Amazing to see how creatively driving demo creations to a new level and probably a new category! Will there soon be a "Peripherals demos" in every compo? Hat off for Refex!

[@FishGuy876]

Wow! Thats amazing! I had no idea the 1541 could do any of that! Many congratulations on a great demo!

[@TheRetroShed]

That is incredible! Can't help but feel for those poor devices though. A connector is needed for this :)

[@damienboulay6939]

Just amazing . It is the demo of 2021

[@daschefer]

I believe that you are the first person to take advantage of all the hardware resources included in a Drive! Nice Demo

[@toweri_li]

No, he is not.

[@daschefer]

@@toweri_li Good to Know. Do you have the demo link that uses this technique before?

[@toweri_li]

@@daschefer Hehe.. Sorry, no link. There was no public Internet at that time. It is only saved on a 5 1/4" floppy disk... (Here's to hoping it is still readable!) :) You may want to check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKWmnp2fdq-UebM He / the program does not state, whether you need to have C=64 connected and running - but the program "Head Alignment" specifically does not need the computer itself. Upon running, the program is uploaded onto the 1541 disk drive RAM and then run by its CPU alone. You can switch off the computer - just like on this video.

[@diegodonofrio]

Incredible!!! Can't believe it! simply AWESOME!

[@zippofcy]

This is the most hardcore sh!t ive ever seen! (i had a C64+1541II combo back in 1988-1991 and now i have it again, just not the II)

[@radekone]

The most impressive thing I've seen on c64 :)

[@Studio1XN]

You mean on 1541 :D

[@one-TETSUO]

seit 1988 die beste demo, ohne zehvieh :) ... gut gemacht, ...."ein hoch auf die wissenschaft"

[@julianhaupt6607]

So good, congratulations for this masterpiece

[@trickysoft]

Very creative and technically excellent, except cutting the wires on a glass table ;) The Bitshifters did sort of the opposite when they connected the video out to the floppy write head to experiment with writing different bit patterns that were too fast for the BBC Micro's 6502!

[@dbr-z1629]

It's a crazy work. May the people think about the thing between the lines.

[@TheOriginalNCDV]

Wow! First I thought "oh, that's cute". And then my jaw dropped lower and lower. Absolutely amazing sir!

[@TechTinkering]

Incredible! The video definitely deserves a more descriptive title.

[@gehtniemandwasan2925]

There was a fractal Images Generator with the floippy as a coprocessor, i remember. Printed Out in German Magazine called Run. Doess anybody know more about?

[@hytyttiva]

Never know something like this was even possible omg that's amazing!

[@golarac6433]

Awesome great job. Very suffisticated music for just a floppy motor. And very nice effects. I implemented video signal on a microcontroller so i know what it takes. Crazy you managed to do it ob a 1541 !!

[@dpac0]

I wonder how long it can be played before it kills the drive

[@mobluse]

Would it be possible to also send video from the commodore serial bus on the C64? That means you could have an extra screen to the C64 (or other computer with the commodore serial bus).

[@rayf2145]

I´d love to see someone try that! Although I could imagine that the CPU serial controller in the C64 is much too busy with the rest of the machine, compared to the "stupid" floppy.

[@IBoughtItMyself]

Stunning. Just stunning. Thank you, Matthias, you supreme badass.

this is unbelievable. mind blowing.

[@stephanfebruary]

Most hardcore C64 demo ever.

[@ruzzaux738]

Are you the creator of the universe? No one else could be able to pull of such wizardry. Absolutley mindblowingly crazy stuff

[@ProBloggerWorld]

I believe that this all started with a bet... 😄 Amazing work. And also greetings to Zorc. We chatted for quite some time during the late 90th.

[@conservativecanuck]

I have some doubt about the audio. The grunting is clearly 1541. But the warbling sounds…? That clearly sounds like a SID chip audio.

[@iz8dwf]

final level of and "racing the beam with 1 MHz 6502". This can hardly be surpassed.

[@eugeny_brychkov]

It appears that disk drive itself is 8-bit computer having 6502 and 6522 inside (see Wikipedia for the image). Load program into it and trigger the execution when drive door is closed. If power is lost C64 will be needed back to restart the demo. The simple 3-level voltage circuit is genius :)

[@talideon]

It hurt me a bit to see those cables being chopped up and spliced together, but that was amazing!

[@commodork]

Those cables are modern. 1980s cables would have used heavier gauge wire and much thicker shielding.

[@ElSonk]

This is art.

[@Strangebubble]

Just unbelievable... I didn't even think it was possible.

[@skeetervandecamp4783]

You are a master of this hardware. wow.

[@WacKEDmaN]

this is the best demo since Breaking Baud!

[@hallomaximuss]

Nothing else but mindblowing.... This is so amazing!

[@acakebread]

this is possibly the most amazing thing I have ever seen!

[@leandrotami]

Mind completely, utterly blown.

[@karolysas6070]

Incredibly creative, and all in less than 2kb.. Respect!! Guys am I the only one who can hear two tones around 2:10..? Is just that a delusion? How are the high pitch tones produced at all? 😮